Tractor Loader Pin Boss Repair Piece

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Everett's Workshop

Everett's Workshop

5 жыл бұрын

The other day a farmer buddy of mine had a loader pin boss break off of the loader arm due to poor welds (very little penetration to the arm). As the loader company wasn't wanting to help much he called me to make a part for him to weld in place. As well, it was a bit of a rush job as he had his cows to feed.
Not a very complex part to make, for sure, but it's amazing how even in the simple stuff Murphy can sneak up on you when you're not looking.
As always, thanks for watching!

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@donaldnaymon3270
@donaldnaymon3270 4 жыл бұрын
Great job. It’s nice to be able to help folks. We all need the farmers and it great to be able to help them. Thank you
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, always had a soft spot for farmers. He welded it in, I just made the piece for him.
@stephenwagar2663
@stephenwagar2663 5 жыл бұрын
Yer A Good Man !!! Helping A Friend , This Is The " Meat And Potatoes " Of Having The Skill And The Machines To Do The Job , Even When Holding A Toddler !!!! Welldone
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I was surprised the loader manufacturer wasn't willing to help him much so he had to fix it himself. Sad part is that it was due to their bad welds. One way or another he's back up and running. As for Little Man, he's my primary responsibility right now, over and above my hobby shop, so that's partly why I don't get out there as much as I would like. He'll only sit and play in his area for so long before he's had enough, lol! Thanks for the support, hope you're doing well!
@thosearentoars
@thosearentoars 5 жыл бұрын
Nice solid repair, worthy cause for sure.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it just needed to be done and seeing as he sent me damage pictures before work started, I decided to make a quick video and just got him to send me pictures after he got it done. Thanks for coming by the channel!
@unclemaple
@unclemaple 3 жыл бұрын
Great work.!!! I like how you explain as you go and really respect the work ethic and taking care of the farmer. Great job
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith, I've always had a soft spot for farmers and soldiers. Grew up on a farm as a kid but we had to move off when I was an early teen. Still have friends and family who are farmers and ranchers and they appreciate anything that we can all do as the public to help them make a go of it.
@ActiveAtom
@ActiveAtom 5 жыл бұрын
I did not grow up anywhere near a farm (a few dairies about 5 miles in southern Los Angeles County, California) and tractors there are times I wish I did . We like you have a heart to help others this is one giant surprise being a KZfaq creator we did not expect at all so we know we are in the right place and on one of the right channels. A CraftTex mill never heard of one so watching closely and learning because we do not have a knee mill.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
We all enjoy a technical challenge, it's what makes us tick. We have various levels and types of experience and various types of machinery and equipment at our disposal but all enjoy making, building and fixing. It's even better when we get to help someone in the process. As for the mill, Craftex is the house brand of Busy Bee Tools here in Canada. They carry similar stuff to Grizzly down in the US. Thanks for coming by!
@marvinmoss9749
@marvinmoss9749 3 жыл бұрын
Always interesting projects Thanks
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marvin!
@petertyrrell6690
@petertyrrell6690 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video. I am a completely self taught "machinist". My equipment has no digital read outs and it really helps me to observe how you set up and use similar equipment. Seeing issues like your cut off tool breaking is valuable as those of us who learn "in a vacuum" observe that this sort of event is just part of the learning experience. Thanks for sharing.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, glad you're enjoying the videos. The screw up in this video was totally my fault as I knew better than trust that tool post. I even made a turret post a while back just for this purpose but figured to try parting like this 'one more time.' As just a hobbyist I hope what I'm up to can be useful but please don't think I claim to be an expert, for sure. I'm still learning a number of things in the metalworking arts, and just thankful that others are interested in learning stuff along with me, even through my mistakes. Thanks for the kind words and for joining in.
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely completed in good time. Happy cows are fed cows.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's annoying when equipment breaks down when it's needed. Just a quick job, but figured to share it anyway. Thanks for coming by!
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 5 жыл бұрын
Great share Everett , ENJOYED !!.. Great daddy ..
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shawn, it was a simple part but figured to share it anyway. and I'm looking forward to the day that Little Man can have his own safety glasses and work with me in the shop!
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 5 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up buddy. Short jobs are nice to do especially when you don't have much shop time that day and you can still knock something out and cross it off he "to-do" list.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tom. This was a case of just needing it quick but since he sent me pictures already I figured it would be worth it to light up the cameras. Once he sent me pics after he welded it in I could edit. Hope you're doing well, been binge watching your last few surface grinder repair videos, it looks good.
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 5 жыл бұрын
Everett's Workshop Doing well down here. Check out the upcoming video. I make my first sparks.
@RagsdaleCreek
@RagsdaleCreek 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Always nice to help out the people that feed us. See a farmer thank him for his efforts not always easy to survive farming. And i don't like the piston type either ordered one of the wedge types with 7 holders under $200 (2) holder are extra large take 3/4" bit.They came in a couple days ago. Can't wait to get my lathe going. Got to wait on help not able to do it my self. Keep up the awesome work! Watching in Alabama!!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Anthony. I would love to install a wedge BXA but need the money for other stuff at this time. The kit you speak of is double that number and half again in Canadian dollars, everything up here is much more expensive. Hoping to make some more tool holders when time allows because they are $25-40 each for the BXA size import blocks. Not a big deal, making tools is part of the fun! Hope you're doing well, looking forward to seeing chips fly on that lathe when it's running!
@ktaylor5784
@ktaylor5784 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same problems at times trying to part on my lathe at times. Looked like a nice project done for him.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it really was my fault - I knew better. Had I removed the quick change and installed the turret tool post (which I made for just this purpose) the part would have come off properly. I just figured to try it again against my better judgment. Just glad I could help him.
@JamesDedmon
@JamesDedmon 5 жыл бұрын
Cool little job it alway good to help someone. On the drill thing I never heard that of course I wasn’t formally trained. But in my early days starting out it was never mentioned to me about drill orientation. I’ve had good luck parting with my new set up. The key is keeping everything as short and close to the post as possible
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, still kind of kicking myself as I knew better. This is why I made the turret tool post, as it is much more rigid. Should have just popped it on and called it done. Next time . . . Hope you're doing well, was fun to see two videos out of your shop this morning
@georgechambers3197
@georgechambers3197 5 жыл бұрын
Nice little project. It's a good idea not to scare the boy if you want him in the shop when he's older. I've found that with a Dremel you can cut a small "V" in the center of the end of the parting blade. This gives it two small cutting edges and doesn't seem to catch as yours did. Worth a try anyway. Thanks for the video!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
It was my fault, should have put the turret tool post on instead, it's why I made it in the first place. Next time . . . I don't do very noisy or welding work with Little Guy out in the shop. Like you say, don't want to scare him if he and I are going to build his first go-kart down the road :)
@bryanbridges2519
@bryanbridges2519 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always. When it comes to parting off mild hot rolled steel I have found it to be "gummy" many times and will grab the parting blade. If it doesn't want to curl a chip it goes to the bandsaw. That became my personal policy after a parting blade hung up in a 2" piece that busted the tool, spoiled the work, and required some repairs on a fairly new chuck. My 16 inch Pratt & Whittney is very unforgiving of mistakes. Again, excellent video.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
It's nice to know that I'm not on glue and that others find mild steel kind of grabby with parting blades too. I can see why you would be leery of parting on the stuff too, if it messed up a nice chuck. Thanks for the kind words, and for coming by!
@dafpnp
@dafpnp 3 жыл бұрын
You just look like what I paint myself to be. An oscilloscope in the background and talking about loader pins 😀
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, sadly haven't used the scope much in the last while. Very amateur when it comes to electronics but I got the scope for a song.
@billofalltrades2633
@billofalltrades2633 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I can't take welding credit though, my buddy took it home and welded it in place.
@billofalltrades2633
@billofalltrades2633 2 жыл бұрын
@@EverettsWorkshop I'm waiting for my MX 210 v lathe to come.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Way to go Everett. That part looks like a factory part.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just a sleeve, really, but glad I could help him. Can't take credit for the farmer welding or farmer painting, though . . . We all do little pieces that don't make it to our channels, just figured to share this one. Hope you're doing well.
@sharkrivermachine
@sharkrivermachine 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job, thanks for sharing. A lot of the CR round bar actually ends up being 12L14 which machines like a dream compared to 1018. I am with Pierre on the parting, Definitely a lot of overhang with the position of the tool post,
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, believe me I agree with both of you, the screw up was totally my fault. I should have listened to my better sense and put the other tool post on and be done with it. Thanks for the kind words, even with the mistake. Thankfully people seem to appreciate honesty when it comes to shop screw-ups and not trying to edit everything out . . . Hope you're doing well.
@boblasley5640
@boblasley5640 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Everett! Enjoyed the video. I've had a few parting issues on my 10" lathe as well, though several times it was my fault for not having the parting tool centered closely enough, but there are times that it seems to be the material. I think someone was yanking your chain on keeping the drill bit flutes vertical, though it could be like "don't set a battery on concrete", with many opinions based on nothing more than someone else's opinion! Enjoy every second with Little Man as he'll be grown before you know what happened and you find those seconds were more precious than most anything else on earth. All the best!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob, the breakage was my fault, I should have used the turret tool post I made a while back just for this purpose, but figured I was in a hurry . . . Well, not doing that again. Just thankful to have this time with Little Man, even on days (like today) when he fights me on naps and fussiness with food . . .
@RockingJOffroad
@RockingJOffroad 5 жыл бұрын
Quickie jobs can be fun too!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I agree - sometimes the quick little piece or thingamabob is just what a buddy needs, and it's a good feeling when you know you could help. Had another buddy come by on Thursday for a quick part, and he came by again today for one, and there's a reward in just making someone smile by solving a problem for them.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 5 жыл бұрын
There is good reason to have the cutting edge of the centre drill horizontal. By doing it so you can put a little side pressure on the drill by a tool in the tool post and moving the cross slide. It turns the centre drill into a single lip cutting tool and prevents any wobble. As for your teacher and his vertical lips, never heard it this side of the pond.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had a suspicion that my instructor was pulling my leg, but just figured to put it out there to see if anyone else had heard of it. Thanks for joining in!
@MakinSumthinFromNuthin
@MakinSumthinFromNuthin 5 жыл бұрын
The most unnerving event on my lathe was having a .090 wide HSS parting blade dig in, toolpost flexed as yours did and I snapped it off. Made me weary of parting on my lathe as well. With experimentation with speeds and feeds while parting I have been pretty successful lately. Nice looking part Everette. I usually give a big 'ole honkin chamfer if I know its being welded so they can set weld in the large gap rather than just pile it up on the exterior. Ideally both pieces should be heavily chamfered if thicknesses allow. That was nice steel, looked like 4140 the way it machined. Great job!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Richard. Never had a tool post come off, that would have been crazy to see! I just cut the part to the plan he wanted, welding was up to him. Satisfied with the result, even with the screw-up in the parting. It really was my fault, should have switched to the tool post I made specifically for parting . . . As for the piece of stock, it was mild steel - I can get birds' nests on mild steel too. I have a suspicion that it comes from using negative rake tooling, but don't have a lot of larger positive rake stuff to compare to. I just got a lot of negative rake stuff cheaply, so that's what is mostly used.
@MakinSumthinFromNuthin
@MakinSumthinFromNuthin 5 жыл бұрын
The 1/2" x .090 parting blade itself snapped, not the toolpost or compound. Sorry if I wasnt clear... Making it exactly as ordered is the way to go! Again, nice job!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I see, sorry for misreading you. It's startling enough to have the blade break off on you. I would like to try one like John Mills now uses but there are other things that are higher on the needs list right now. Thanks again for coming by.
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to help your mates. Just think what it would have cost from a commercial repair company. Great job. I've got the tee shirt on snapping HSS parting off tools. I use a 2MM wide disposable tip one now with great results.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony, after seeing your carburetor vudeo I think we both find it very rewarding to help friends through our hobby. I'm wanting to try one of the insert type parting tools at one point, they seem to work well on other people's videos.
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 4 жыл бұрын
The reasons I bought a 2MM wide one opposed to the more common 3MM one are, it reduces the cutting force needed by 1/3 and reduces the chance of chatter with the lighter cut on a smaller lathe.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
That's good to know, as these import machines may say 12x36 but they're no Colchesters, lol!
@metalworksmachineshop
@metalworksmachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Nice little quickie job. Most quickies jobs i get, it would take me longer to setup 2 cameras than to just do the job.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We all get asked to make little pieces for people, many of which don't hit our channels. I got pictures from the farm when he asked for the part, so figured this could be a quickie video. Thanks for coming by!
@PhilsProjects
@PhilsProjects 5 жыл бұрын
yeah what Pierre said. parted off 6" diam of 4340 HT last week with no issues.. Just Saying.. LOL nice work
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, yeah, I know the turret post should have been used instead, it was my fault . . . To be fair though your lathe is a much better machine :) Good to hear from you again, sometimes wonder if you're getting any shop time at all as you disappear for a while at times!
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Everett - re the drill flute orientation - I don't think it matters a whole lot and as Pierre mentions, always better to finish to size by boring - particularly if at all critical - not the case here of course. Also - Pierre mentions some good thoughts for parting... something that can always hit a curve ball! Your buddy is a lucky guy to have your help. Nice job :)
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, the breakage was my fault, next time the turret post is going on instead. I had my suspicion about my instructor's drilling advice, just figured to put it out there to hear others' experience. Hope you're feeling well and staying warm over there!
@BMWDCK75
@BMWDCK75 5 жыл бұрын
Try putting the parting tool upside down in the tool holder and running the lathe in reverseif you do not have a threaded spindle. Also snug the gibs up a bit. Feed into the cut with steady pressure . If you get chatter increase the feed and slow the lathe down. Hope this helps.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the upside down trick yet but it's been suggested by a few people and I've seen others' on KZfaq doing it too. Might have to do that as an experiment, but will still most likely not use the quick change tool post to do it. Thanks for suggesting it, I've got a few things to experiment with on the lathe now.
@howder1951
@howder1951 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto on the parting tool, my lathe is even lighter than yours and it seems to be a rigidity problem. I have had a little luck with an Asian insert parting tool and they are affordable. Cheers and enjoyed the vid!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I really knew better but it seemed to be cutting so I thought I would try it again. Should have just put the turret tool post on and been done with it. I saw the setup that John Mills got from BangGood, might try one of those. His lathe is more rigid, but in the turret post it just might work on mine. Glad you enjoyed it, hope you're doing well.
@howder1951
@howder1951 5 жыл бұрын
@@EverettsWorkshop Yeah and there is the inverted tool holder that everyone raves aboutust haven't gotten around to it yet!
@kenwolfe6093
@kenwolfe6093 5 жыл бұрын
That’s daddy machining 101. You know those guys that say they can do this with one hand tied behind their back? You’ll mean it! Lol!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to building stuff with him when he gets bigger. The thing is that he's a lot of fun now, even through the fits, food pickiness and napping struggles, and he won't be little forever so have to enjoy every day with him. Very proud of the little twerp, for sure. Thanks for coming by!
@kenwolfe6093
@kenwolfe6093 5 жыл бұрын
Everett....believe me, time flies and next thing you know they’re 29 and have a kid.....🙂
@daveknowshow
@daveknowshow 5 жыл бұрын
always brings me a lot of joy to help others when they are in need. our farmers don't catch many breaks so its good that you could help him out. I have a question you may or may not be able to answer. it may make a good video as others may have the same question. I'm lately thinking about upgrading my scratch start tig welding outfit to a high frequency start tig welder. my situation is the location I'm welding in is very close to the digital display for my milling machine. will the High frequency start mess up my electronic digital read out on my mill or my cell phone or laptop if they are close by while welding with the machine? any insight into this would be helpful. my scratch start set up does just fine but I sure would like being able to weld aluminum with the newer machine.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have a serious soft spot for farmers, quite a number of them in my family tree. As for the HF start on a TIG, I'm not sure how it would affect more sensitive electronics, but I do know it messes with the sound on my cordless microphone. When it's lighting up the arc you can sometimes hear a buzzing crackle in the audio, that's it. I'm not an electrical engineer, but hopefully one who may watch the video and read comments could chime in. Good to hear from you Dave!
@daveknowshow
@daveknowshow 5 жыл бұрын
@@EverettsWorkshop thanks for getting back to me so quick good catching up on some of your videos. be well and stay safe my friend.
@PhaseConverterampV
@PhaseConverterampV 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Everette, I seen that you received some ccmt ( I think) inserts from a viewer. Those work excellent on your type of machine for turning. Great chip breaker, less undesirable turnings. FYI.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, there were a few very small CCMT bits that fit a small boring bar I have. I'm not sure but I think that left-turning tool that got all the snarlies was a CCMT, but would have to double check. In retrospect I was trying to be cheap and use up random scrap but it actually wound up costing more in the long run. Even aluminum would have worked, I suspect from the metal's behavior that it was 4140, and that would be overkill for a pulley . . .
@PhaseConverterampV
@PhaseConverterampV 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, ok, my mistake. I thought it was a cnmg u were turning with, my bad. I was just sharing my experience in a very similar lathe I have, and cut plenty of 4140, it and the dcmt inserts create very good chip control, in the .01-.013 in/rev regime , .05 radial DOC, if possible. Cheers Everette
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I do use a lot of CNMG43x tooling, simply because it came cheap, but have been starting to experiment with other profiles as well. I admit that using the NAIT machines have ruined me as those would move metal like nobody's business, but still thankful to get to play at home with what I have. I really don't claim to be an expert on carbide and will certainly take advice on which profile/feed rate/DOC combinations are worth trying.
@PhaseConverterampV
@PhaseConverterampV 4 жыл бұрын
You have a 1236 lathe? 2 hp? Mine is a 1440 but I put a bigger 3hp motor in it, now I can use top speed without dimming the lights. Hopefully you can make some ROI on all your video work thru utoob. With regards to straight holes drilled in steel with vertical or horizontal cutting edges, don’t know. However, I do know from experience that when deep drilling ( more than 20 dia) the holes are very straight when the work turns one way, and the bit turns the opposite way. You see long gun drilling ops , when the bit emerges , it’s never on centre, but usually only one rotates.
@christophercullen1236
@christophercullen1236 5 жыл бұрын
Everett have you considered removing the compound and adding a solid riser block to mount your tool post for greater rigidity ? Christopher
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I have, actually - heard about it from a number of people and my buddy Eldon did just that with his lathe too. The biggest time I've noticed a problem is with parting and that's what the turret tool post was made for. I was just being foolish this time and thinking "Hey, this is cutting ok so far, maybe it will be ok this time." I may try the solid mount at some point, we'll see.
@koliloaloa
@koliloaloa 4 жыл бұрын
I have virtually the same lathe and ended up flipping my parting tool upside down. Whats happening with yours is it digs in and tries to climb under the job resulting in broken insert. If it is upside down and digs in it lifts up out of the way. I have gone back to using hss blades for parting and haven’t had a problem since.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I really do want to try one of the insert type parting tools like John Mills uses, as I have found that a couple broken blades later my blade holder has been damaged in the process. All in time, still experimenting with different things.
@scottlundy257
@scottlundy257 5 жыл бұрын
Its more important to keep your tongue at the wright angle.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I tell you I was biting my tongue when that tool hooked, as I'm trying to keep my videos G-rated, lol! I totally knew better, should have listened to good sense.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 5 жыл бұрын
Hi , that style of parting tool i consider to only be a grooving tool at worst & a tool for the rubbish bin at best !!! The one i tried snapped the end clean off . Parting in that size lathe can be a bit dodgey at the best !!! . i use an Iscar parting tool , found them very good . My channel The Swan Valley Machine Shop , Swarf & Chips episode 3 , part 2 I am parting Caterpillar undercarriage bolts on my small lathe like yours with no problems . Cheers , your filming is heaps better than mine !
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment, I try to get decent shot angles but it's sometimes a challenge. And I agree, this size of lathe can sometimes be challenging to part on simply because of lack of rigidity. Normally when I part I use a HSS tool in a turret tool post for more rigidity but at some point want to try one like what John Mills now uses, I believe it's a knockoff of the Iscar style.
@noelhenderson700
@noelhenderson700 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want to be too critical but I prefer a wedge tool post since they appear to me to be more rigid. I'm also a bit anal about making sure the tool is at right angles to the lathe axis and right on centre height. I even made a blatant and shameless copy of edge tool's centre setting tool, although a straight scale will also work fine.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Noel, I don't pick up any criticism whatsoever - you're absolutely right! This time it was totally my fault, I even made a turret style tool post a while back just for parting and grooving, so I knew better. Just a case of 'I wonder if it'll work this time.' It was square and centered, but the piston-style tool post that came with the lathe is not rigid enough. Thanks for coming by and joining in!
@RockingJOffroad
@RockingJOffroad 5 жыл бұрын
Oh by the way, I have all but given up on parting on my lathe, the work piece seems to almost always climb up the parting tool causing it to dig in and break. I had an indicator on the chuck when I was trying to part off the other day and I could see the top of the chuck rise by .006- .008 with not much pressure on the parting tool, maybe I might need to replace spindle bearings.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that's a lot of deflection! I generally use the band saw if it's of any real size, but occasionally still try parting, especially if the work piece is hollow. Actually parted off the hollow part I made for my buddy today - it was small and I used the turret tool post. You bring up an interesting point though - I should try measuring the spindle deflection under parting-off load. Thanks for the idea!
@pierresgarage2687
@pierresgarage2687 5 жыл бұрын
Oupse...!!! How fast are you turning when parting...? When looking at the video, we see the post flex towards the left. This means a rigidity problem. Maybe a few things I've seen from my seat, try to bring your toolpost closer to the pivot, I.E. backing up your slide, get the tool as close as possible to that pivot, try playing with the angle of the coumpound, hope I'm expressing my idea clearly... Carbide inserts are able to run quite fast, I'll be parting a 3" piece as fast as 650rpms, but try to keep it above 300RPMs if no chatter shows up, have you tried Coblat HSS blades, they do great if carbide is too demanding on your machine...? Drilling vertical or horizontal, never noticed any difference, and, when I really want a close toleranced hole, it's done with boring equipment... Unless you're using a 200 pounds drillbit in a 100 pounds Atlas lathe, maybe there... ;) Train them youg, you'll soon be 2 males against one lady of the house... lol
@cojones8518
@cojones8518 5 жыл бұрын
7:57 Yeah I saw that too. At 9:00, just before the tool broke, you can see it dip down a lot. Something is up with that toolpost.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Pierre, this time I pretty much let Murphy walk in the door - a while back I made a turret tool post just for parting and grooving because of this tool post. I would have preferred a wedge style but this piston one came with the lathe and a wedge BXA is not in the budget. These lathes aren't super rigid to start with, I just have to stay within its parameters. Using a HSS parting blade on the turret post would have been better, I just thought I would try the carbide holder 'one more time.' Don't remember what speed it was, but I can't go super fast or the chatter gets pretty bad. As for the drill question, I had my doubts but figured that my instructor had more experience than I did, so just kind of rolled with it. And I'm very much looking forward to moving from 'playing with blocks' to 'squaring up blocks' with the little guy :)
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 5 жыл бұрын
I did too.
@cojones8518
@cojones8518 5 жыл бұрын
@@EverettsWorkshop Check the dovetails on the tool holder and the post, one or both might be out of parallel or to sloppy a fit. Even a piston type toolpost shouldn't let the holder move that much. Might want to try a different parting blade holder.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably the tool post that would be the issue, as some other tool holders have a bit of slop on it too. I would have preferred a wedge style to start with as they are a much more positive hold, but this one came with the lathe. I just should have put the turret tool post on and dealt with it that way - parted off a piece yesterday using the turret post and it worked fine. Will get a BXA wedge style post some day, just not at the moment.
@dermotkelly2289
@dermotkelly2289 5 жыл бұрын
Next time try using a four jaw chuck to part off. Three jaw chucks are not very stable
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
You're right, a four jaw can grab a piece more securely, but this one was my fault. I knew better than to use the quick change tool post but did anyway. Using the turret post works much better as it's more rigid.
@bobbyardevas2936
@bobbyardevas2936 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it matters....very very minute if anything.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming by, but I'm not sure what you are referring to that doesn't matter
@bobbyardevas2936
@bobbyardevas2936 5 жыл бұрын
@@EverettsWorkshop it's not rocket science
@bobblack3870
@bobblack3870 5 жыл бұрын
I need to live closer to you. I raise beef cattle (as opposed to dairy) and have had my own issues with bushings like the one you made. You may or may not want to forward a tip to him/those that you know. Locally I have a steel & pipe place - basically a recycler that sells new material as well. Years ago I bought a couple of feet of steel rod to make new or replacement pins and a relatively thick walled pipe that they fit nicely into. Wall thickness is not always critical for most applications, but in what I saw in the photo, it may have been important in your example. In comparison to what I do, what you made looks like the gold standard.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment, I was just cutting to the drawing that he made for what he wanted. Not sure how far away you are, I'm near Edmonton, Alberta, but if you need something mailable sized then if I can help let me know. Sounds like you've got something lined up locally but if I can be of some help I will. Got a soft spot for farmers and ranchers, you've got a hard go of it, generally.
@bobblack3870
@bobblack3870 5 жыл бұрын
@@EverettsWorkshop thanks for the encouragement. I am a wee bit far away, though. Try Houston, Texas. However I love Alberta. Spent several months in Calgary in '81 for work and would travel to see different areas on the weekends. I find myself very attracted to your videos and topics.
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 4 жыл бұрын
Farmers have a pretty tough time competing in this so called global economy. Commonwealth countries get insane breaks in tariff reliefs so they can flood countries like Canada with cheap product. I live in an area that grows thousands of tons of apples and the local store puts apples from New Zealand on the shelf. The fruit sellers here sell their apples to the public for less than $0.35 per pound so it is not the price that is driven, it is the politics. The apples on the shelf are marketed for $3.00 per pound for Honeycrisp variety. So try to buy from your local farmer if you can. Thank you for helping the farmer.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
We had to move off the ranch just before I was a teenager due to economic pressures, and so I've always had a soft spot for agricultural producers. I would gladly pay retail prices to a farmer or rancher straight across, which is why I quite like farmers' markets.
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