Confirms my belief in the quality of a Marathon Coach. If I am going to dream I am going to dream big.
@MrBillygoat4 жыл бұрын
It’s great that we have prosperity like that in America where folks can afford and enjoy any of the items these folks have had and the Prevost. Grats on your new purchase guys! Hope it gives you many years of safe and fun filled memories !
@timothykalio1574 жыл бұрын
I just love marathon coaches. Congratulations on your new coach
@DLTJR19594 жыл бұрын
The Newmar King Aire is a top end coach. The Prevost Conversion is another level. I have an 06 Wanderlodge 450 Lxi. They all have issues and need constant attention and maintenance. That costs money. As long as you know that upfront your expectations are realistic.
@ListerMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Still rolling with my Blue Bird, next best thing to a Prevost IMO , not sure if or when I'll move up because the Bird has been so great....
@Tomatohater644 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's Prevost all the way for me. Again, it's simply a matter of which conversion company you prefer. Liberty or Mararthon or Millenium.
@dan_10034 жыл бұрын
Great story and very informative Andrew. I can't wait for part 2 and see 1124.
@gramsofmoney27234 жыл бұрын
Being a truck driver and an owner of a 2015 Ram diesel pickup I can say from experience that the problem with DEF systems overall are over blown. All one has to do is learn how the system works and how to prevent issues in the first place. 149000 miles on my RAM and only been in the shop once for DEF issue and it was the wiring harness. Our tractors hardly ever have DEF issues. That being said, I would still prefer NOT having it at all.
@wingslevel4 жыл бұрын
They all work perfectly once deleted
@vendediesel4 жыл бұрын
First ever repair that I learned on a truck was how to fix the DEF system. It was a hino 338. Had pretty much everything wrong that could be wrong. The pattern to it was clear, poor maintenance and constantly running the system empty. After that I feel I could diagnose and fix any as long as I have a laptop and software.
@mchurch39054 жыл бұрын
We have a 38ft 2012 Tiffin Allegro Red qra bath and a half. We traded up from a 34ft. Winnebago Suncruiser both diesel pushers. The move to Tiffin from the Winnebago was startling with the improvements in handling, power, and interior aesthetics. And even though we are very satisfied with the Tiffin, it sounds like a move into a Prevost would be a likewise eye opening, albeit much more expensive experience. Thanks for sharing. I will check out Coachnet vs. Good Sam or AAA RV towing options. We switched to Good Sam from years with AAA and had to have our coach towed due to a water pump problem, while snow birding in Phoenix last year. We were advised by the tow operator to go back to AAA because of his years of experiences dealing with both. So we will add the Coachnet advise to our consideration process.
@EndlessRVing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this story. Whole lot of RV’s for these folks, hopefully they found their dream coach. We also have coach.net. Small cost for piece of mind.
@mrjlbarrett55563 жыл бұрын
My cornerstone is 2017 its 45 ft and it jas 605 cummins . As far as power you order a 605 in a king air I owned a 2012 king Air myself it had 600 cummins i bought it from a Nascar race team it was nice it had snap on tool boxes my good friend bought it
@mrjlbarrett55563 жыл бұрын
I even had a 2007 winnebago Tour 400 cummins 3 slides 36 ft 89000 miles when i bought it . My king Air had 149k miles at the time of purchase
@gd1980704 жыл бұрын
Very interesting interview, I enjoy the interviews as much as the walkthroughs 👍
@wingslevel4 жыл бұрын
DEF was the worst thing they ever did to diesels. Many a trucker has gone broke with DEF issues. They are pure crap,
@rebellucy56104 жыл бұрын
If Obama got his wish ALL diesels would be eliminated or taxed into submission. The Paris Climate agreement was the end. Thank God President Trump pulled us out.
@arthurnied55004 жыл бұрын
@@rebellucy5610 and you can thank obummers strong-arm henchmen the EPA run by Green people to destroy all kinds of Commerce. This D E F was pure nonsense. Unfortunately many people do a delete on these systems and don't have anything acceptable like the old exhaust systems.
@toptobottom2474 жыл бұрын
DEF is designed to clean the dirty, poisonous exhaust of diesel fuel. So basically breath a lot better or poison everyone around you or don't care about that. I think they should stop playing around and go the Tesla way and get rid of the diesel engine.
@wingslevel4 жыл бұрын
Yes lets rape the earth of every metal possible so we can drive Tesla and have tons of waste battery dumps in the future. www.businessinsider.com/panasonic-battery-cell-operations-tesla-gigafactory-chaotic-2019-4
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
@@wingslevel exactly. Where are all the Tesla battery is going to go in a decade when they are worthless?
@bobshaw40634 жыл бұрын
WOW what a beautiful Luxury Motor Coach . It's a 2008 but it looks new . Hope Fred & his wife are able to keep it forever . I'm going to recommend Coach Net to my friends that just bought a 2013 Fleetwood Bounder w / 3 slides . I don't know if they have coach Net or not .
@robertrutherford90574 жыл бұрын
He's got the Detroit, that engine is sparky. Lol. 2 things to remember on Detroit's, they will leak oil eventually, the alternator mount will eventually break.... Fitzgerald does a alternator mount upgrade that works flawlessly. The oil leaks, between 750k and 1 million miles. That coach will do 2 million miles with proper maintenance
@timk.98274 жыл бұрын
Wow I think that was a great move by those folks!
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@kevinroberts84964 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video and information!!!
@douglastong32084 жыл бұрын
I think these folks didn't say what they were really feeling: "If we're paying about a million dollars for a coach, we expect better than what we got." The idea of buying a luxury RV is to be able to travel comfortably, but what they seemed to have gotten is, "don't worry, we'll have this problem figured out ASAP, and get you back on the road soon (even though it's brand new). At this level, maybe Newmar should have King Aire loaners available when customers go in for service or try much harder to produce a flawless coach?
@MrCgs606494 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@adamfrbs92594 жыл бұрын
Yep. Bet your right.
@JJ-zd5ld4 жыл бұрын
But at that price point you get either a new King Aire or a 10 year older Prevost. Sure Prevost conversions are a step up from a King Aire but will cost twice as much for new models. I'm sure Marathon and the other conversion company owners have had some issues with their coaches also, higher price tag does not always equate to less problems. Does Marathon give out loaners when theirs have problems?
@douglastong32084 жыл бұрын
@@JJ-zd5ld I'm sure Newmar and King Aire don't get a solid reputation by being mediocre or underperforming, but the owners in this interview seemed to be suggesting that in their experience, it was at least one problem too many that kept them from enjoying their trips. As for dissatisfied Prevost owners, that will be up to Andrew to find... do they exist?
@robertcalvinbrown70054 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, I think most of us know the difference between Prevost vs production coaches. I see you have about 15 videos trying to prove how much better a Prevost is over production. WE get it. I assure you. Let's move on. Everybody would be ridding in a Prevost if they could afford them. I bought a 2014 Tiffin 45 LP never had any problems what so ever beside changing motor for blinds. That's it! AS far ridding down the road, (smooth as silk.) I assure you I have double the Sq footage as Prevost. Prevost would be my choice if I was going coast to coast once a week.. My two cents. lol
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
2014 is a great year for that coach! I would hang on to it!
@AliciaRyann4 жыл бұрын
Robert Calvin Brown can you explain the 2x SF?
@stratolestele76114 жыл бұрын
Robert - the "we get it" thing. Please do not speak in a way that suggests that you are speaking for all of us. I really enjoy hearing all of these stories. They are all unique and informative. It's not just about Prevost are better than xyz... Andrew - thanks as always for another excellent video.
@brinkee76742 жыл бұрын
Let him produce what he wants. I choose to hear more about Prevost. I can assure you he has more videos about folks choosing other coaches over a Prevost. Everyone/anyone can have problems new or used. My buddies 08 Prevost Liberty has been pretty much care free except for some expected upgrades. I have never driven a coach that drives better and you don't need to drive cross country all the time to appreciate that. To be honest it isn't even a comparison as the Prevost is on a whole other level
@richardedwin59804 жыл бұрын
Great interview Andrew. When I hit the powerball I'll buy the biggest and most decked out Prevost there is. I'll have someone drive it everywhere for me while I ride my Harley in front of it and sleep in luxury.
@brettlipeles55224 жыл бұрын
The basic premise of the New owner’s conclusion is flawed. There is expectation that the 2008 Prevost that they haven’t even taken delivery of will be better than what they have now. My guess, there will be a new set of problems. These are very complicated vehicles built in very low production. As owner’s we are the guinea pigs debugging them. We must create the lists and then have the problems fixed and after a certain number of service appointments the kinks are worked out if the coach was built properly in the first place, a big “If” in the world of RVs. Yacht owners have the same struggles during the commissioning period, and many of those yachts cost $10s of millions, but again, are custom built.
@morganoverstreet68244 жыл бұрын
Prevost units in general are not low production, the chassis are solid, and have a more than proven track record. Some of conversion companies have less experience than others, and many failures come from electronic components added by said converters
@joerocco1664 жыл бұрын
What Ive always been saying. Any used Prevost is better than any new fiberglass RV
@zmotorsports624 жыл бұрын
Beautiful coach and I concur on the benefits of Coach Net. Mike
@PeterPedroA.Cintron-421Pc4 жыл бұрын
I was pretty amazed something interview I'm glad that a lot of people of different ethnicities buying coaches now I just hope they come out with better prices it'd be nice if they had a company that can make tires for these big rigs that do not go flat at all 🤔 🇺🇲 🇵🇷 😊 🖖🏼 🤟🏼
@joey11274 жыл бұрын
Prevost just makes the chassis, the Coach Builder is responsible for everything from the paint to the interior. I don't get the obsession with Prevost...several generations of those chassis are know for their panels on the sides delaminating and it cost a fortune to repair. I always laugh when I see someone running around an RV lot going, "Where's the Prevost?"
@deanhauser66264 жыл бұрын
How could the Prevost be quicker off the line with less horsepower? It would have to be gear ratios or actual horsepower to the wheels. Newmar King Aire has 605HP, Prevost has 505hp? Something doesn't add up unless the newer Newmar is so choked down with the DEF and it's heavier
@lrsmith60374 жыл бұрын
I noticed the Newmar is made in Indiana. It seems like all I hear is horror stories about RVs from Indiana. If I was the owner of one of these Indiana RV manufacturing companies I would invest in getting my plant ISO certified to eliminate these problems.
@johnnyhunter43454 жыл бұрын
Suggest folks get on Prevost Forums to do further research...
@ianhumphry14 жыл бұрын
When trading up is trading back. I know your a big LIBERTY COACH guy, Andrew, and liberty coaches are awesome, and would be my second choice, I am a MARATHON guy and believe they are the best. Going from a new coach to a 10 year old coach, wouldn't normally be a trade up, only with MARATHON and LIBERTY, would that be a trade up. As always Andrew, stay safe and give Sadie some love for me.
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
Thank you again, I hope to see more Marathon coaches and learn more about them. I haven't had Sadie on the KZfaq channel lately but she's on my Instagram daily if you want to check on her. I appreciate all of your support!
@bigbusconversionvideos5574 жыл бұрын
Andrew, I thought you got in a Prevost. But it was still a cool interview and I'm still excited for these new coach owners living the dream.
@brianandheidilingle26194 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Other brands I’m curious about for build quality are 2007-2008 Country Coach and Beaver Coach. They seem to have a great following. Lastly some Super C’s from Showhauler and Haulmark.
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
I have a buddy that picked up a 2008 country Coach recently, will try to do some stuff on the build quality of that coach, they definitely were great coaches. I don't know too much about the super sees but I'm always trying to learn. Thank you for your support!
@brianandheidilingle26194 жыл бұрын
Another thing I’d be interested in is if your buddy financed the rig? I hear banks typically don’t finance anything over 10 years old.
@MrRicco393 жыл бұрын
Would like to see an update of these people and their coach
@RVingwithAndrewSteele3 жыл бұрын
I just did another video a few months ago in California with a similar title.
@kurtashbaugh12634 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I would like to contact those new owners to collaborate any glitches. Iam the owner of Mararthon 1118.
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, very cool! If you send me your email address to ansautodetail@gmail.com I will pass it along to these folks
@amossnowdaharleyman91794 жыл бұрын
Small world: the cabin heating system in both uses coils built at my factory. Look for a BDI **** stamp on the metal endplates on the coils.Anywhere from 5 to 15 in each coach:depends on coach design. Have those on a 10 year warranty btw. In 20 years I have yet to hear of one starting to leak.
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
That is very cool! I appreciate you sharing that. Next time I see this coach, I will try to get some footage of that and give you a shout out 😎
@amossnowdaharleyman91794 жыл бұрын
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele Bois D'Arc International Inc. "BDI then a series of date code numbers". My company starts its 31st year in january. If the hot water system is from Aqua Hot or International Thermal Research my coils are used.
@OddsandSods264 жыл бұрын
I just watched this video now but knowing that you are looking to upgrade your coach, seriously, you need to look at some of the Bluebird Wanderlodges that are currently for sale. Any of the 'Birds for sale on __T Trader are going to be very close to what you are looking to purchase.
@tinderinc4 жыл бұрын
When I win the lottery the first big purchase is going to be an pre emisisons 07 H3 (I think the news / lotto corp will write a news storey saying I'm buying a used H3 Hummer lol)
@rejeanpaquet43754 жыл бұрын
well... not so good review of NEWMAR King Aire... honest folks, I like it, good job Andrew. Prevost all the way baby
@terrymjinks4 жыл бұрын
Good Q & A with actual owners
@lindielu14484 жыл бұрын
Andrew when are your trading the Tiffin in on a marathon or liberty coach?
@n3qdz4 жыл бұрын
Lindielu oh hers going Marathon all the way........(sorry just a bit of a Marathon fan boy) right Andrew......Marathon all the way right...... bawahahahahah
@soillife14 жыл бұрын
Heck Andrew would be quite Happy with this couples used King Air 😎👍
@MattAGamon4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can get the Newell owner from the other video to do a Newell vs Prevost comparison. Which would you pick out of the two?
@RVingwithAndrewSteele4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could. Unfortunately most of the owners of these coaches are very busy people and moving these coaches around is very time consuming. I hope to find a location where I can have access to a Newell and a Prevost at the same time.
@MattAGamon4 жыл бұрын
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele What would Andrew buy then.....Newell or Prevost Conversion?
@thecasualrver4 жыл бұрын
Great interview Andrew,
@c.victoriaritchie34664 жыл бұрын
Great information Andrew!!
@angelalooney224 жыл бұрын
Wow ..really nice!
@n3qdz4 жыл бұрын
Dang Andrew.....you better start marketing that tiffin of yours so you move up to a MARATHON.........#1Marathonfanboy
@pjgreen11834 жыл бұрын
Guess those poor people are unaware of the delamination problems,,,, in the XL 2
@mrjlbarrett55564 жыл бұрын
Shit i sold a King Air for a Cornerstone My cornerstone shit is 45 ft i have a 605 cummins
@mrjlbarrett55563 жыл бұрын
I own a Cornerstone mine has a 605 cummins i hsve every options
@scdb1232 жыл бұрын
In defense of king Air sounds like your problems were with the POS exhaust and emissions system and not the coach.
@MrCgs606494 жыл бұрын
Wise choice
@Tubi_com4 жыл бұрын
More!!!
@Rollingwithkenny Жыл бұрын
Them folks must have lost their minds😩😩😩
@NomadicSociety4 жыл бұрын
ok healthy debate or food for thought here - 1st show me a guy that has driven his motor home 100k , seriously i want to meet him- so Freakin rare! much less a million miles,A New Prevost will lose every one buying one more $ than a new king aire every single day of ownership BAR none! now is it nicer? well yes but what i said is 100! for those who can afford a prevost well more power to you! but what i said is true, it may hurt, and may suck but if your talking $ you will lose more daily! :) price a 2000 prevost vs a 2000 king aire that proves most of the point of cost of ownership . yes i do own a 2000 lol , is my 2000 newmar still valuable? look one up on Rv trader and a prevost also the #s are way closer to the same value now, they are both toys! now if you say the boy with the most $ to buy the most expensive toy wins well then in your book the guy with the Prevost wins:)
@veniciosmarcosdelima86204 жыл бұрын
Olá qual metros ônibus
@mrjlbarrett55563 жыл бұрын
AS far how fast the coach is HP , Type Transmission Weight . Me personally my Cornerstone performed better than king Air . Much cleaner ride .
@bluesharp594 жыл бұрын
Why buy New when slightly Used will do, lol now I remember hearing that from somewhere. Anyway Thumb Up liked for you all.
@ronaldfish15694 жыл бұрын
Bull shit that is your opinion I think Marathon is overpriced there are so many features out there that they don’t put on the coach this is 2019 get with it NEWELL He’s a much better coach they manufacture their own chassis
@deanhauser66264 жыл бұрын
this guy is the most negative person to any coach other than Prevost on KZfaq. I do say one thing, any brand new coach no matter what the cost is should leave the factory with everything working as should and, should work well at least through the time of the warranty. Whatever the King Aire had for warranty for that should last for years and years without problems.
@DannybFlat014 жыл бұрын
Boring content Andrew, speed? My Bus is 56 years old, who's in a hurry when you have so much weight under you? Goodluck with your Career.