TRADING My 103 TWINCAM For An 80 Inch EVO / Any REGRETS???

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SaddleTramp

SaddleTramp

3 жыл бұрын

An update on my thoughts about trading my 103 twincam for an 80 inch evo. After a year's time, do I have any regrets about it. About this time a year ago I made a video review called Evo Vrs Twincam... my review. Well... I thought it to be a good idea to give a more acurate review after a year of trading the twincam for an evo, and answer the questions on whether or not I regret doing the trading of the two bikes. Since this kind of thing is rather unheard of; going from newer technology to older technology... I figured some of you may want to here my thoughts on the matter.
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@1YouTube_you
@1YouTube_you Жыл бұрын
I’m a Harley tech now for over 25 years and trust me when I tell you the evo is the most reliable engine Harley made. Less moving parts means less to go wrong . Congrats on the evo.
@jimkraft9445
@jimkraft9445 3 жыл бұрын
I started with a 42 "45" flat head back in the 50's. My 99 carbed Evo Softail Custom has the same feel. I wear goggles and no windshield. I will be 80 this year unless the Lord has other plans. No more long rides, but a good hour on the back roads where we live does my heart good. The EVO runs just fine. Not quick like the newer ones, but who needs quick when you are out smelling the roses. Sun flashing off the headlight, while cruising along in no hurry to get anywhere. May not work for everyone, but is good therapy for me. I am always smiling when I come home. The world is in a mess, but i am still blessed. Been an engine lover since my early days. The EVO is a fine example of a motor that gives you confidence it will get you home. It is somewhat in common with those old air craft radials as it is really a 2 cylinder radial.
@EarlGuyton425
@EarlGuyton425 3 жыл бұрын
Only a few of us older people are aware that the spliced rods and even the cylinders are of the old aircraft design and that is good. Many of those air planes flew over the oceans in war one and were dependable
@lyricaldreamer84
@lyricaldreamer84 3 жыл бұрын
God Bless brother.
@simonelomax7465
@simonelomax7465 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Kraft, most eloquently said. Though my mother passed nearly five years ago now she would certainly have echoed your sentiments - having served as a mechanic in the air force during WW II. Spitfires, Lancasters, but also the old radial engined Bi-Planes were put back in the air by her fair hands. All old machines have soul.
@lskiller1903
@lskiller1903 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of a old radial flying overhead still makes me rush out of the house and look to the skies.
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin Larry is 80 and still rides a 78 FLH. He was the Fonz in the 50's. He tough me how to do all the Harley and Indian mechanics I know. He is the best machinist I know he can manufacture about anything and has a professional machine shop. I wish I still lived close to him but it snow there. I live in the deep south.
@bswear77
@bswear77 3 жыл бұрын
Older bikes can be just as rewarding as newer ones. It's not how fast you get there, it's the ride getting there. For me, all I want in a bike is a throttle, speedo, gas gauge, and that Harley sound. Love your Heritage and really enjoy your channel. Feeling alive is priceless.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Right on, man. For me it's more about the going rather than the getting there. Thanks for dropping in, Steve.
@quintinlindsey7967
@quintinlindsey7967 3 жыл бұрын
There is no sound that compares to the Evo in my opinion, love the sound of that engine!!!
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Meeeeeeeeeee too.
@BEACHYz
@BEACHYz 3 жыл бұрын
I do remember when people did the evo was a pos. I love the sound. I own a twincam, and love that sounds as well. Now the Milwaukee 8, does not, feel or sound like either. To me, it's more like a Honda engine. I don't mean that as an insult, btw.
@quintinlindsey7967
@quintinlindsey7967 3 жыл бұрын
@@BEACHYz yeah the M8 in my opinion is over engineered with counter balances etc and is to smooth for me, in a Honda engine it is welcomed but the whole reason for the Harley is the rudeness of the bike and the M8 takes away from that for me but that's just my opinion!
@shanecoker8566
@shanecoker8566 3 жыл бұрын
A shovel head has the best sound.
@crsails
@crsails 3 жыл бұрын
Shane Coker so glad you said it. Absolutely thee best.
@4VR2WLZ
@4VR2WLZ 3 жыл бұрын
Love the evo's. They saved the company back in the day..
@boomerguy9935
@boomerguy9935 3 жыл бұрын
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The EVO should be part of every motorcycle enthusiast's history lessons.
@paulhealey8221
@paulhealey8221 3 жыл бұрын
Tramp, as for me, I was brought up on shovel heads my absolute favorite of my shovel heads WAS my 1971 superglide. As life usually goes we have to sell our beloved motorcycles for one reason or another. I truly regret selling ANY of my motorcycles . But now I own a beautiful 93 Dyna Lowrider I picked up two years ago in mint stock condition and I absolutely love it because it gives me the old cool feel of a shovel head but is more powerful and more refined then my shovels...like you, I want to buy a new Harley-Davidson Road King in my case, for long distance travel. BUT, I will not give up my Cool duel disk EVO Lowrider. I don’t want anymore regrets in my life! I am currently filming the long journey and unusual circumstances that led me on a mission to find another bone stock 1968 XLCH for my first KZfaq video. I guess what I am saying is, fine go ahead and follow your dreams and get the new bike of your choice someday ... but don’t give up that EVO, that is my humble advice. Harley-Davidson doesn’t make that seat of the pants raw mechanical feel anymore. You know what I mean! Besides, that EVO isn’t eating anything! Nor are your vintage Iron heads. Besides, your garage wouldn’t look very cool without your vintage Harley’s sitting around. Thanks for this video, it hit home with me personally.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Paul. Always appreciate your input.
@johnelfstrom2663
@johnelfstrom2663 Жыл бұрын
When the first Super Glides came out I wanted one so bad, but couldn't afford one. But I still want one with the original white color scheme.
@willieebarb
@willieebarb 3 жыл бұрын
Building yer own means never having to wade thru the cappuccino drinkers to get to dealership service counter. If it breaks you know what's wrong, what its gonna take to get er up again. most newbies cant change their own oil. I aint trying to hate......yes i am, goodnight
@boomerguy9935
@boomerguy9935 3 жыл бұрын
On a positive note, I must be near the only good Harley dealership because it does not fit the mold of the other stereotypes, either at sales or service. When I belly up to the service counter with my old 2005 XL883, I get the same respect as the guy with the brand new $30K plus bike before accessories. They worked on what should have been a simple problem, took over a week to fix it and finally replaced every part because they admittedly did not know the root cause. I only got charged for the initial small repair and they ate nearly $2000 worth of parts and labor, and they apologized for taking so long to make my bike good. I'm not even sure the resale price of my bike is as much as what they spent on fixing it. So, believe it or not, there is at least one good Harley dealership out there and they don't care if you wear leathers, beach clothes or a 3-piece suit. They do not discriminate. They've been in business in this area for at least 40 years or more and the other dealerships down the road (one Euro and one metric) keep getting new ownership on a regular basis. I've been is both and they made me feel like a peasant.
@s.gossett5966
@s.gossett5966 3 жыл бұрын
You have a point. I've got a Twin Cam, ridden Sportster a, and tried out shovels and such over the years. The best I can say is that every generation motor has its own personality. And you have to find the one with the right personality for you.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
You're right about that.
@Paul20661
@Paul20661 3 жыл бұрын
The legendary video got so many people including myself to the channel
@shadetreesurgeon
@shadetreesurgeon 3 жыл бұрын
Evos 4 ever
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love them.
@kennethwise7108
@kennethwise7108 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaddleTrampTVbest engine ever. The 1997 & 1998 ones were the better ones. The 1998 has a better clutch design and has 9 discs. The motor Company still uses 9 discs to this day
@kennethwise7108
@kennethwise7108 3 жыл бұрын
There are some things that need addressed, the inferior INA Cam bearing needs replaced with a Torrington one and the rear fork is too thin. It will eventually break st the elongated portion of the axle on the drive side.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethwise7108 How do you address the rear swingarm?
@kennethwise7108
@kennethwise7108 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaddleTrampTV weld two small strips on the top and bottom of the entire portion of the elongated portion, make a tapered wheel spacer that covers the entire surface of the inside of the swing arm area, buy FXR style belt tensioner blocks and use them for reinforcement purposes. I've replaced 2 swing arms so far and after doing all 3 of the above its rock solid now. Bike has 143,000 miles.
@mikegates302
@mikegates302 3 жыл бұрын
I sprung for my first Harley this summer, traded in my v star and got a 96 FLSTN. Watching your video on trading for your FLSTN and other videos on the model helped me decide to get one. No regrets! What you said about feeling like you're part of the machine, very true! It likes to shake rattle and roll.
@richardwhite2460
@richardwhite2460 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy the ride brother....
@jonnnywod4339
@jonnnywod4339 3 жыл бұрын
No regret there brother the evo Harley-Davidson’s are a nest egg long term investment.
@tommontague5721
@tommontague5721 3 жыл бұрын
I had the 80 EVO and it was a nice bike, no real problems. I have a few scooters in the garage and the one I like for Sunday rides is a 2011 96 twin cam Heritage only 8,000 miles on it. I like the torque and pull and the 6 speed trans. If I want to take my life in my hands and get the crap scared out of me, I'll take out the 65' BSA lightning I restored. Fast as hell, right side shifting and only stops on Tuesdays. Good videos, keep them coming.
@brentheaslip1534
@brentheaslip1534 3 жыл бұрын
My 92 softy took me around the country so many times and over roads that weren't fit for horses let alone a motorcycle and all ways got me home, anit saying it didn't need some working on,but never left me stranded on the side of the road. My missus loved it too.
@markpascoe7845
@markpascoe7845 3 жыл бұрын
10 40! 64,000miles 2yrs Only thing I corrected was points. When that box went it was always the furthest from any city
@pastorbobncc365
@pastorbobncc365 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I would take the Evo.
@samcocita7958
@samcocita7958 3 жыл бұрын
I had to sell my 103 SG , beautiful bike,loved it,then bought a 97 rk Evo ,I have enjoyed the simplicity of my Evo, with the Andrews cam and properly tuned CV carb I don't notice much difference in acceleration ,and with 80000 miles it's a very solid bike, I don't miss the 103 at all.
@jamestorregrossa3041
@jamestorregrossa3041 3 жыл бұрын
I had an evolution in 1992, twin cam 88 in.³ a few years ago and now a 103 in.³, I ride them all exactly the same so I do smell the roses, I do take in the environment and the scenery. I’ve grown to be an old man on a Harley, I’ve loved every minute of it.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Right on
@fatboyrowing
@fatboyrowing Жыл бұрын
I traded a 88 CI twin cam Fatboy for a 80 CI 1998 Springer. The Fatboy was super reliable and quite comfortable. After 73k miles I had it exactly the way I wanted it. Loved the fuel injection - just thumb the starter and go. However I’m enjoying the hell out of my Evo springer. But I must admit, I’d like to get a used Road King for a long distance machine. I’ll probably get a TC unless I find an excellent Evo… or an Evo with an S&S engine.
@paulgrogan8032
@paulgrogan8032 3 жыл бұрын
Man... .it sure does make me feel old to hear the term "old bike" while referring to the EVO. I came up riding bowling balls thats all🇺🇸
@markpascoe7845
@markpascoe7845 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 we are what we are. At least we know who we are
@randymarks4011
@randymarks4011 3 жыл бұрын
see more amf shovelheads running around then panheads and knucks and flatties, so apparently them bowling balls held up well.
@motoman7445
@motoman7445 3 жыл бұрын
@@randymarks4011 That's because AMF was pumping those babys out as fast as they could. Quality control suffered because of it.
@jd9308
@jd9308 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! I ride a 05 xl1200c, and I definitely know I'm doing something when cruising down the roads at 70 mph! I love my old Sportster! She'll be my last motorcycle. When she or I can't go anymore, well that will just be it. I'm a old man and I love old things including women, cars, trucks...
@mose717
@mose717 3 жыл бұрын
52 years old now. Had Japanese bikes and always wanted to upgrade to a Harley. Did a fair amount of riding as a young adult but for various reasons got away from bikes and now for various reasons I'm back. Last year I finally bought my first Harley, a 2010 Road King, and am very happy with it. Still want a Dyna Wide Glide from the early 90's.
@dannpd1955
@dannpd1955 3 жыл бұрын
I subbed your channel right after you made the trade so I cant imagine you on any other bike except your Evo and the Tramp of course. Another killer video. Keep em coming.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Wishbone. Thanks so much.
@dustinbironworker1
@dustinbironworker1 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Christian and lover of 2 wheels, finding your videos has been a true blessing. Your information on ironhead has been so very helpful. My '79 (FAME model for all models except 79) will benefit from your knowledge. God speed, and runner side down!
@EarlGuyton425
@EarlGuyton425 3 жыл бұрын
The evo is basically the same as the shovel engine, but I feel the shovel had a better upper rocker oiling system. The oil tube went from the cam chest case up to under the rear rocker and another tube went to the front rocker and those got better upper rocker oil. I like the evo and think its a good long time investment, but one had better make sure they are running at least 20lbs oil pressure at idle because evos default is not enough upper rocker oil. I do believe your shovel and your evo both were the best harley engine ever made because your pan head was noisy with all those gears behind the cam cover and the knuckle head was the same problem plus the distributors in the knuckle and the pan plus the generators. For as long as I live I will keep my 97 evo fatboy because I can control and own it, rather than a scanner and tech shop owning me and my bike.
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 3 жыл бұрын
I agree the Shovelhead is a better motor than the EVO it is easy to work on . The only motor that is easier is the FlatHead. I had a 1941 45ci Sport solo and a 1933 80ci a 46 and 48 Indian chief. They are great motors like a big lawn mower. A friend of mine a has a mildly stroked 76 Shovel with a 5 speed transmission and it runs down the road fine and he is not much for maintenance he brings it to me when it has problems.
@EarlGuyton425
@EarlGuyton425 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisar3006Speaking for the flat heads, much history was forgotten about those as generations of people happened. But the use the postal service and military and even in Germany in where the flat head harleys were very long lasting. History gets unknown by newer generations and marketers brain wash each generation to believe engines have improved and gotten better and do this by bad mouthing things of the past. The flat head harley didnt have a noisy cam with lower cam gears and were actually smoother. Now harley, once they came out with over head valve, didnt really build an ethical quieter engine until the shovel head. I cant remember the name of the movie, but it was where an evil town sheriff rode around on a flat head indian Those pipes sounded good on it. My advice to any harley owner is to get your hands on a evo or if lucky get a shovel, but if you get a shovel, dont do it unless you can modify it with a 5 speed transmission or reduce the rear sprocket from a 54 tooth to a 42 tooth , if you run highway . If you have an evo, dont do these cam upgrades or mods to these but leave them as they are. I personally will not use SS or andrews or fueling parts at all, and use only standard HD parts and both my harleys sound like wild lions roaring. Im lucky because in Texas we dont have to have mufflers or baffles
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 3 жыл бұрын
@@EarlGuyton425 My 1972 FLH police special was an old Tampa PD bike I got in 1988 and restored it. It is bone stock and other than the leather saddle bags that came off my 1955 Pan it is as factory as I could make it but I did go to a 42 tooth rear sprocket. I live in nowhere Alabama and the nearest freeway is 96 miles away so I do mostly back road riding at speeds below 60 mph. My 72 FLH runs good at that speed. My wife is very ill so I don't get out to ride much if I got injured or killed she would be in a fix since we have no family around and I am her only care giver. I wish I had my 1933 and my 1948 Indian Chief still they were my two favorite bikes i ever owned. I sold them to finance my first divorce and to move to Florida to take a Cop job their in 85.
@EarlGuyton425
@EarlGuyton425 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisar3006 Life has circumstances and conditions of higher priority that make it to where we cannot always do what we want. This happens at all people whether they are younger or they are older, based on money and jobs or a loved one must be dependent on us. Your 1972 shovel police harley is the gold for sure. If I owned that I would never enter any harley dealership or even think about another harley. The 1972 full size harley shovel is better than anything around today. There is no limit to the exhaust pipes are chrome or personal select paint color and it can be made to suit yourself. God bless you brother for taking care of your woman. I too miss a lot of things I once had such as my 56 ford fairlane and my 67 mercury cougar
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 3 жыл бұрын
@@EarlGuyton425 All true I have had seven Harley's and two Indians over my 67 years. I only bought the 2002 FLSTC because my wife hates the original buddy seat on my 1972. I bought the 2001 FLHRCI Road King wrecked and fixed it and sold it. I had a chance to pull off the cover on the twin cam to see how it worked. The Road King was suppose to have had 114.000 miles on it but I think it was rebuilt some time. Every nut and bolt on the motor looked new and were very clean. that twin cam tension shoes looked new too better than on my 2002 FLSTC with only 28.000. I saw enough to know that motor is trouble that is a poor design. My wife can't ride with me now so I am going to sell the 2002 FLSTC and keep the 72 it is all I need. I think I will put the tank sifter back on it since i learned to ride with a tank shift and foot clutch I prefer it. Six of my bikes were tank shift foot clutch bikes.
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098 Ай бұрын
I just camp across your channel and now have lots of great videos to catch up on ! Great content.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV Ай бұрын
Welcome, man!
@MrGixxer1300r
@MrGixxer1300r 3 жыл бұрын
There is a saddle for every a$$. It is all about what you like I own and mostly ride a T100 Triumph, and a couple of old XS650s Yamahas from the mid 70s early 80s, these are bikes I like and know. You are a evo guy you are learning it, and you like, and now it is a part of you. Commented, liked, and subscribed for over a year. Keep making great videos man!
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man. Yeah it's sorta like building a relationship. One of those priceless things in life.
@twatson6252
@twatson6252 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 70 's on the old Japanese super bikes riding the Kawasaki triple 500 and 750 then the 900 z1. I did not have much use for the old Harleys they were slow, leaked a lot of oil and broke down a lot sorry but true. A few years ago I got real sick with diabetes and heart trouble and feel just terrible. I still wanted to ride so I had the opportunity to purchase an old 95 evo Heritage that needed work. A friend told me that they were easy to work on . His exact words were if you can work on a lawn mower you can work on an Evo lol. I bought it and repaired it, yea it was not to difficult to work on. Then I started riding it. Man was it a game changer. No longer as you said just getting on a bike and going 100 miles an hour every where you go. This bike you really enjoy the road and the ride. I can't ride all day because of my health but this old Harley can make me smile .
@goldysmith6953
@goldysmith6953 Жыл бұрын
I've been riding bikes for over 50 years I absolutely love the evil but getting up there in age I finally broke down in 2014 and bought me a 103 Ultra Classic Limited with water cooled heads the bike is an absolute dream I finally got Mr Baxter's a completely rebuild that with a dark horse crank and a whole bunch of new goodies it's a 117 now and I plan on putting another 100,000 miles on it but you're right I still miss my old Evo
@larrys.3992
@larrys.3992 3 жыл бұрын
Had my evo dresser 30 years. Put 80,000 miles on it. Install cv carb, bolt in hydraulic cam and ported the heads. That bike would run balls out all day. Riding a M8 softail now which is very nice. Went stage 2 recently really enjoy my ride now.
@shanes1112
@shanes1112 3 жыл бұрын
Great description of the difference in the Evo and the TC, Tramp. I’ve got a nice 1200 Sporty Low and a 2011 Ultra Limited 103. Of course the two bikes weigh so differently but I feel more part of the Evo when I ride it and I’m pretty aware of the miles I travel on it. The 103 Ultra eats miles with almost no vibration and I have to be careful of the speed because there’s no vibration to let me know how fast I’m going. Wife and I rode 200 miles round trip today to eat lunch on the gulf coast on the Ultra. Down and back and I was like, “what just happened?!” Lol. Love your channel and the guys and gals that post here
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
That's cool no know it's not just me. Thanks so much.
@tonyforrester5072
@tonyforrester5072 3 жыл бұрын
I take the Evo over the twinkie any day
@chrisberg2083
@chrisberg2083 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather push my Evo than ride a Twinkie
@kennethwise7108
@kennethwise7108 3 жыл бұрын
Smart move, SCREW THAT TWINKIE!!
@mitchellgraff4321
@mitchellgraff4321 2 жыл бұрын
Had a gear drive twinkle with 100k on it good moter
@genequies8731
@genequies8731 2 жыл бұрын
Twinkle? Mine's more of a cream puff.lol
@stevenbullock9276
@stevenbullock9276 3 жыл бұрын
Very smart guy. Really enjoying the videos- great job editing!
@mickthemerciless9694
@mickthemerciless9694 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. I've got a 1450evo s&s custom and your description of being part of the bike is spot on.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 2 жыл бұрын
Right on, Mick!
@richardcrowe4207
@richardcrowe4207 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 103 Twin Cam, 1994 FLSTN Evo just like yours and Sturgis Shovel. The Evo will always be my favourite motor. My friends Evo, she has just clocked up 300,000km and it hasn't been apart yet! Cheers Rich. NEW ZEALAND
@jimmansi1187
@jimmansi1187 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Tramp, I ride a 1995 1200 EVO Sportster which happens to be in showroom cond. yes my bike shakes & vibrates but i love it. It has plenty of power, great handling as it’s 80 lbs lighter than current Sportsters. Very reliable, it’s never let me down & it a blast to ride. I 100% agree & feel the same as you do about your bike
@autoglassmike
@autoglassmike 3 ай бұрын
I love my old 98 road king. I crossed the country on it in 2000 with 2 other guys on evo HDs we had zero issues and it’s been good over the years. It’s less refined than the new bikes but gets down the road good. I love the way you have to stretch the gear shifts out compared to the quick shifting of the newer models. I have a buddy that got a 117 road glide he loves it but wants to get out of it and get something for cash because of the high payments he’s making on it. He wishes he had kept his old payed for twincam Electra glide
@michaelpuente9057
@michaelpuente9057 3 жыл бұрын
Man always love watching your video man
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here, Michael.
@realbark
@realbark 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 91 Evo which ive owned for nearly twenty years now. Ive ridden Twin Cams and Sporties owned by mates. I love the Evo. Its let me down only twice - both electrical problems and easily fixed (once i got home!). Ive a Mikuni HSR fitted and crane single fire ignition. I KNOW im on it when im out n about and to me thats the fun, which is what its about. Good channel - keep the vids coming. UK viewer ( so i do ride in the wet :) )
@77xlchop
@77xlchop 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for another cool video, Saddle Tramp!
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you all the more for being around, bro.
@billh4121
@billh4121 2 жыл бұрын
No not weird at all. Looking for my first HD after years of wrenching and riding classic brits. As someone who has an affinity for the concept of motoring, developing a relationship of feeling and knowing your machine and how to maintain it is important to my experience. Your insights and opinions as an HD guy are invaluable. Thx!
@motorcyclemark2889
@motorcyclemark2889 2 жыл бұрын
I just did basically the same thing only I didn't trade a fuel injected Harley for my Evo powered Heritage . I sold my 107 horse power fuel injected honda vtx 1800 it was fast and reliable but heavy and sounded horrible I'm much happier now I smile every time I look at my 97 Evo Heritage and when I start it and hear that beautiful music only a carburated Evo can make its the sweetest sounding motor on earth .
@MyDyerMaker
@MyDyerMaker 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1200 sportster with an evo. I never felt like the bike was slow. Super reliable and fun to ride.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my sportster will definitely smoke my softail.
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 3 жыл бұрын
Moderate power with lightness makes the Sportster. Add some performance parts and then... it is wicked.
@parkersgarage4216
@parkersgarage4216 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 09 1200c and it's alot of fun. It isn't slow to me neither lol. I love it actually, put hard bags and some other stuff on it.
@robertbowen6610
@robertbowen6610 3 жыл бұрын
If it's stock yeah you go stage 4 on that evo and I can personally say it will do 140+ if you have enough crazy to keep the throttle twisted
@roberthambly9926
@roberthambly9926 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty.
@SteelCity82
@SteelCity82 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to believe it’s been almost a year. Time flies. But I know your heart and you made the right choice.
@rossdelarosa6060
@rossdelarosa6060 3 жыл бұрын
I rode an Yamaha roadstar for years, I ride a Indian vintage now 😎 thoroughly enjoy watching you build your rides God bless you Amigo traveling mercies always 🙏
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so I tried to trade my 2002 FLSTC with a bunch of extras with only 28.000 on it for a 1994 FLSTC EVO. I had the deal set if the guy who was ahead of me didn't buy it but he did. I can work on a Evo without a bank of computers I am sorry I ever bought these twin cam. I had a 2001 FLHRCI Road King I sold a few months back . I plan to sell the FLSTC twin cam too and hunt down a good Evo. I still have my 1972 FLH to ride until I do. As for motors the Shovelhead to me as a garage mechanic it is the best motor Harley ever made it is a big lawn mower engine and is easy to work on and maintain .
@brentlivingstone4329
@brentlivingstone4329 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video brother! I'm weighing the different pros and cons of Evo vs TC 88 and your insights are very helpful. I'm definitely a smell the roses kinda rider, right now riding a Vulcan but dreaming of my first Harley. Keep it up and God bless.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you for watching.
@gilsopoco9829
@gilsopoco9829 3 жыл бұрын
100% I'm with you. I love my 1996 Heritage Softail Classic. With the EVO? I don't need a radio. I'd rather listen to my EVO sound.
@maryfrank9799
@maryfrank9799 3 жыл бұрын
So true,my 97 Dyna convertible rode so different than my Heritage softtail. It's like a Vega to a Cadillac.
@trevorjameson3213
@trevorjameson3213 3 жыл бұрын
I know how you feel man and I completely agree with you. I've been riding my old rigid mount evo sportster for 20 years this year, and will never sell it. I was recently talked into test riding a brand new sportster 1200 with the fuel injection and rubber engine mounts and all that jazz. It was a lot more refined and smoother than mine, and the brakes were better, and the clutch pull was so easy you could pull it with one finger (weird to me), but honestly I thought it had no character. It was a great looking bike, but I wouldn't consider it at all. It was heavy, too. I thought sportsters were supposed to be taller, skinny, and a lot lighter, you know, kind of sporty.
@YogisCycleService
@YogisCycleService 3 жыл бұрын
Why did I feel like I knew what your answer to the question would be before I hit play. Well explained however especially the mission analogy. Stay safe my friend
@magnoliala
@magnoliala 2 жыл бұрын
Great perspective, thank you.
@cgdrider
@cgdrider Жыл бұрын
In the early 2000s, we bought a brand new Harley Davidson Twin Cam Fatboy. The Wife & I loved that bike. Back then our payments were $350 a month. a short time after we bought the FatBoy I got laid off from my job. We decided we had to get out from under those HD payments, so we sold the Fatboy. As a experienced Machinist, I soon found a new job and we saved our dollars and pennies until we had enough to by a used Harley Davidson FatBoy with cash. We were lucky to find a Bad Ass Fatboy owned by a Los Angles Police Officer who was asking $10,000 for a Custom 1992 Fatboy, with Harley Davidson Factory 57' Chevy Blue & Cream paint, Fat Bob tanks, PM wheels & Disk brakes and a stock Evo 80ci motor and cobra long shots pipes. After a little negotiation and whipping out an $8,000 stack of one hundred bills, the Bike was ours! 20 years later and attending the Sturgis Bike Rally for 17 years, we are still riding our 1992 FatBoy and still loving that Evo.
@69Busa08Nova
@69Busa08Nova 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Evo. I bought a Softail deluxe 103 last year and over the winter bought a 97 Road King, I feel like the RK is more of a machine, “simpler times” if you will. Granted the RK is better suited for longer rides but, I find myself on the Evo much more than the Twinkie. 7800 miles so far this year on the ole girl and only 1000 on the deluxe. Last year at this time I had clocked over 11,000 on the deluxe. Ride safe.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm talking about. Evo is king.
@freddieweimann3602
@freddieweimann3602 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 57 pan head for 43 years... also have a 2013 Street Glide that rocks to each their own
@adamthirdbourne324
@adamthirdbourne324 3 жыл бұрын
You made simple idea very informative and interesting all while being genuine and honest. Great work as usual. Keep the rubber side down!
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Adam.
@adamkelley755
@adamkelley755 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 1996 electra glide and the I really like what you said about being one with it
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 3 жыл бұрын
93 FXDL here...same
@kurthenze2900
@kurthenze2900 3 жыл бұрын
"93" WG, just to my specs.
@14theroad1955
@14theroad1955 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that you should ride what you like...you might say...Ride and let Ride...
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@randylamountain5916
@randylamountain5916 3 жыл бұрын
I have three bikes going by year 1st one is a 1980 shovel head D rake open primary with a Ultima 6 speed ridged tail, 2nd 1988 FXR with the evo lowered with a 6 over nickel platted springer, 3rd is a 1997 Fat Boy lowered with 14 in apes. And i just love all 3. They each have there own attitude and quirks about them, but you feel one with the bike when you ride them. And like to have the control to tune on them with out having to plug in. I just like riding and you can feel if there is something not right and needs attention, and can i fix it good enough to get back home.
@philpfirrmann7729
@philpfirrmann7729 3 жыл бұрын
I've had alot of bikes in my life, and my friends father said something to me I'll never forget. Way back in the dark ages, I bought a brand new 1976 Honda Goldwing. It had alot of goodies and improvements over my '48 Panhead. He said there's just more things to go wrong with it. After hearing that , I kinda made a point of buying the simplest vehicles I could so I could do the repairs myself. So far I've owned both carbed and fuel injected bikes all Harley's, and both have been so reliable I would buy either style except the first gen morrelli version as there's no parts of factory support for them. I'm not a fan of having so many computer controlled parts that only the dealer has a way of determining whats wrong with the bike. and clearing codes. My '96 Police bike looked like it was rode hard and hung out wet, but ran like a bear, and would smoke twin cams all day long. They say the motors are the same as civilian bikes, but the one I had came from the Jersey City Police dept as a trade, so I know nobody messed with it. Easy and cheap to work on, and tough as a hammer. I have a '05 Road King now, but keep an eye out for a older sidecar unit for just messing around with.,,
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
"More things to go wrong with it"... Totally agree with that. Thanks, Phil.
@EarlGuyton425
@EarlGuyton425 3 жыл бұрын
More things to go wrong is so true. Todays owners of the M8 harleys are enslaved to electronics and emissions and gave their self away to racketeering. They are captured by cost and worries that have nothing to do with firing up a motorcycle and having some fun. Same thing on cars and pickups. For people in my generation there were no catalytic converters or ecm or a fuel pup in the gas tank or codes. I was able to do the same things without all the cost. The extras other than the physical engine itself is ridiculous and is to bleed money out of the consumer . Your 96 police bike was something you could own that didnt own you
@MrGixxer1300r
@MrGixxer1300r 3 жыл бұрын
Police are people just like us, and just because it came from the factory the same as a civilian bike doesn't mean things didn't change after the police took ownership of the bike. A friend of my older son bought a unmarked low mileage crown vic interceptor (a P-71 car) upon lifting the hood he noticed that someone installed a vortec supercharger on the car I'm sure that didn't come from the factory. :)
@EarlGuyton425
@EarlGuyton425 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGixxer1300r Differences and things not available to the public are often in police vehicles. Such as in the year 1958 there were ford police cars with the FE ford 352 v8. But the same year ford for civilian only came with the 223 inline 6 or the yblock 292 or 312. The general public wasnt allowed the fe 352 V8 until 1960
@ardyrides834
@ardyrides834 2 жыл бұрын
My first Harley was a 2012 StreetGlide 103 ci. I still ride it, and I want to keep it, because I feel like I can with confidence, get on this bike and ride it across the Country, or anywhere else I want to go. Lately, I find myself thinking, I'd like to also own a 1999 Evo Fatboy.
@stephencartwright5046
@stephencartwright5046 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent review of a culture. Yes all bikes are different and you need to find what you are in tune with. I share your sentiments about the money too. Keep doing what your doing.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Stephen
@OZARKSHDRIDERS
@OZARKSHDRIDERS 3 жыл бұрын
As always Brother, video well done Saddle Tramp 💯👍🏼
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ozarks. You rock.
@OZARKSHDRIDERS
@OZARKSHDRIDERS 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaddleTrampTV na, you rock brother 💯
@charlieryan1736
@charlieryan1736 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another helpful and honest review video 🇺🇸🤘🏻
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@markbarrett4482
@markbarrett4482 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Love it!
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, man! Welcome!
@AbramSari
@AbramSari 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a bored and stroked ridged pan for about 26 years. Had no bike for almost 20 years. Recently bought a 93 FLSTC and really like it. Amazed at how much it reminds me of my old panhead. Ride safe y’all.
@loneridertv4244
@loneridertv4244 3 жыл бұрын
Well said Saddletramp, Could not have explained it better. Good video.👍😎
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man.
@montyrivers1529
@montyrivers1529 2 жыл бұрын
I know how you feel. I’ve had the “new” bike more than once. Now that I’m knocking on 70 I looked for an old evolution. I found a 99 far boy with only 6500 miles on it. Bought it from the original owner. It’s alive and I love the way it talks to you when it’s warmed up just idling. The new bikes are great but I can’t program a computer. Give me an old school bike with a carburetor. I can work on it. Your an extension of the bike and you can ride it anywhere. It’s like being a kid again ridding that old 68 Cushman eagle to school.
@Supermankev2001
@Supermankev2001 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you filmed this talking as the locations changed well done !
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kevin. This was a bit of an experiment for me. I had fun making this one. I was kind bummed when I finished the editing. Thanks, for watching.
@Supermankev2001
@Supermankev2001 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaddleTrampTV I think it was brilliant the way you did this very creative well done.
@trfisher78
@trfisher78 Жыл бұрын
I've owned 5 Evo's and 3 Twin cams. I sold my '13 103 Ultra and bought two Evo's. I love my Evo's.
@timmyreconski5407
@timmyreconski5407 3 жыл бұрын
99 flstf, screamin eagle heads and slip on, andrews cam, single fire ignition, dynojet thunderslide, and i am happy. All work done by me and I like that as much as the riding.
@alissarobertson8840
@alissarobertson8840 3 жыл бұрын
I have a low mileage 2002 FLSTC I was trying to trade for a good Evo. I sold my 01 FLHRCI Road King. My wife got very ill so I held off on a trade in case I need to sell it for cash for medical bills. I prefer my 72 FLH over the Evo because I know it better but the Evo is a great motor. I am sorry I ever bought these twin cams. You did right trading it.
@jerryhayden8720
@jerryhayden8720 2 жыл бұрын
I heard you can bury a Evo with a Shovel. Oh well. I'm still warming up to the idea of trading my 07 103 Street Glide for a Softail Evo like you've got. That dude looks and sounds like a real Harley. This is my second twincam and they're ok but I've changed with time and I'm at the point in life I'm doing my best to simplify and also lighten the load. Get rid of stuff and things. Learning to live like my grandparents. I still like to look at stuff and things, new technology, and cool hotrod's, at show's and in print and video's but me just not having to have it. I no longer have the need for what I don't have. I just want simplicity. To me, old stuff is king. Always enjoy your videos. It's about time for another vacation to the ocean and I'm thinking me & the misses just might swing through your neck of the woods on our way to, probably Florida, so I can show her where I used to live, except it's been washed away but a liquid bulldozer, and maybe you and the misses or just you if she's busy, maybe we can go eat a poboy and a cup of gumbo and just meet for a short get together. Just a short meet & greet & a bite & a break then on to Fl. I'll give you plenty heads up. At least a couple weeks or so. I really like when you show the ocean in the background. 👍☝️
@jayhuff239
@jayhuff239 Жыл бұрын
I'm 73 years young and own a 98 Softtail Custom. I've had 13 harleys in all and the evo has been the most dependable of them all. I cannot leave a motor alone so I spent 6 months beefing my evo up. Now it's at 100 cubes with a ton of S&S parts. It's definitely faster than it was but still starts and runs good in any kind of weather.
@brucemsabin
@brucemsabin 18 күн бұрын
I've got that same Live to Die, Die to Live patch, and it's in the same spot on my jacket. Good choice man.
@robertneese5695
@robertneese5695 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned and rode the oldies but goodies,1934 Vl flat head 80 and 1939 45, I was in love with my Vintage, my newest bike was a 1978 FLH Electra Glide, great bike for 16 years I never had problems other than a starter,Today I am on a 2004 Evo first year of being rubber-mounted and runs like a dream, this will get me through my mid-life crises until I find my last stock lifetime mate, I don't mind being that last guy getting there, being in a hurry always has gotten in my way, I have ridden Harley my whole life probably for there classy look and sound" vibration and all, Thanks for the memories" Saddle tramp. And thanks for the Great Video!
@markhenry192
@markhenry192 3 жыл бұрын
Never owned one of the older models (aside from my old 1200 Sportster) but am the proud owner of an M8 Low Rider and I love it. Not as viby as my old 2017 Sportster but I can still feel the engine under me and riding it gives me a buzz like no other. Great video Saddle tramp, thanks
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mark. Yeah, the lowrider s is an awesome machine. I had to talk myself out of signing the papers when I was making a video on that bike.
@TOMMY52132
@TOMMY52132 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, hey SaddleTramp you guys in the south well Mississippi I know have to wear a helmet the one your wearing looks like it fits you very well what kind is that if you don’t mind me asking. Keep the great material coming love it man..
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. The helmet I picked up from a yardsale years ago. The manufacturer went out of business after a bad hurricane.
@CCP600
@CCP600 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my first Harley a 1997 softail fatboy and I love it. Maybe I’m easy to please but I don’t see how it can get much better then the evo. One day maybe I’ll get something newer but for now I’m very content. GOD BLESS
@exodor1
@exodor1 3 жыл бұрын
I got rid of my 2017 Ultra Limited and now have a 98 Electra Glide (last year of the EVO). I thoroughly enjoy riding the Evo!!! It really is a joy. No, it’s not fast, but there is something about it that brings me joy.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
I hear ya, man!
@fililoboesparza5784
@fililoboesparza5784 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Maybe one day I’ll purchase a Evo. I’m almost done paying off my 2016 Harley Softail FLSS. This is my first Harley & new bike. $21K 😅 But definitely no regrets this 110 Twin Cam softail puts a smile on my face every time I go for a ride! 🤘🏻
@glenngolding6375
@glenngolding6375 3 жыл бұрын
I will keep eye open for blogs bloke cheers mate
@SinisterClutch
@SinisterClutch 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never had the fortune of experiencing the EVO. I would definitely jump at the chance. Beautiful bike! Great vid! Ride Safe!
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
It's more like an entity than a motorcycle. I speak for the rigid mounted big twin evos that it is.
@clownpocket
@clownpocket 3 жыл бұрын
I almost did the same as you, got rid of a twin cam wide glide for an evo. But then I decided to install gear drive cams and that put an end to it. My pinion shaft runout was within .001” when I checked it, so that sealed the deal, it was very true compared to later twin cams. Mine’s a 2001.
@JarheadSixRides
@JarheadSixRides 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video friend!
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Sure thing, man.
@erico6247
@erico6247 2 жыл бұрын
I basically did almost the same as you I sold my almost new 2015 road glide special which was fully loaded and bought a 2008 softail deluxe with cams , pipes , tuner and a bunch of chrome and I love riding it more than my roadglide! Just like you said on my 03 motor I was all about go fast and play the stereo as loud as I could everywhere I went! That shit got old I didn't really enjoy the ride now I have no stereo and nothing but a beautiful sound of my engine and pipes roaring up the street, I feel like I'm more part of the ride now and I love that ride much better!
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 52 and I'm on my 4th Harley-Davidson, the first was a like new candy plum '84 XLH iron head 1000 Sportster that I bought in 1990, loved the bike and it ran and sounded good but at the time I didn't have anywhere good to keep it so I sold it after a couple years. My next one was a '93 Sportster 883 EVO or block head, Scarlet Red and I got a good deal on it and it was just set up the way I like a bike, it was clean and had a lot of chrome but the power was a bit disappointing after owning the 1000. Anyway I kept it for about 3 years and sold that one around 2003. Next in 2007 I bought an '06 Dyna Wide Glide Twin Cam which was pretty much bone stock, chopper blue pearl, it was the first year for some big changes and also my first big twin. In '06 the Dynas got a wider rear tire, 6 spd smooth shifting gearbox, the reduced effort clutch from the factory and about 3° more front end rake. Now that bike was something, my girlfriend at the time and me had a blast on that bike, plenty of torque and just a nice ride. I kept it for a couple of years and sold it in 2010 right before moving here to Owensboro, Ky from Middletown, Ohio where I grew up. The payments on that bike were killing me along with payments I was making on a truck at the time too so it was a nice bike but a bit of a headache at the same time, the payments kept me stressed! Fast forward last year, 2019, and my fiancé and I paid cash for a beautiful '05 Dyna Wide Glide in the glacier white pearl with silver trim. We absolutely love this bike and it has a ton of chrome and aftermarket upgrades. Now saying all of this, it's a year older than the '06 I had and while I do miss the factory upgrades that the '06 had it doesn't come close to the way this bike looks and I can always put a Baker 6 spd gear kit into the stock 5 spd box, I can and probably will put a wide rear tire kit on it and probably do the S&S sidewinder power package to make it 100 ci but, comparing to the EVOs, a late friend of mine had a '90 Springer Soft Tail with the 4 spd gear case and had a new Samson shotgun exhaust system put on with torque cones and no baffles which he let me ride one time and nothing I'd ever rode before or since sounded like that bike. It sounded and felt like a pure hotrod, maybe not as fast as the Twin Cam but I really felt like I was riding something special on that thing and the Springer actually rode pretty smooth in my opinion and not as harsh as I'd heard many people say. With all of that said would I trade my Twin Cam for an Evo? Probably not but I would love to have an older Heritage Softail or Springer carbureted EVO in addition to the one I have now. I'm not sure if it's the difference between the heads on the EVO compared to the Twin Cam or the fact that one is carbureted and the other is fuel injected but our Twin Cam doesn't really come close to the sound of that EVO and I do miss it!
@brucesyvertsen2147
@brucesyvertsen2147 Ай бұрын
I ran an Andrews EV26, 42mm Mik, aftermarket exhaust, high flow air filter and 50 thou decked heads on my Evo Fatboy. Bike was a rocket. In a head to head race with a new (at the time) 103 Dyna, the 103 couldn't beat my bike. Needless to say, the Harley sales rep riding the 103 wasn't to happy with an old Evo easily keeping up with him (side by side, flat out). Especially as he had a pack of new HOG riders with him! 🙂 My Evo was rock solid reliable, never let me down. The Evo's were a much simpler engine and easy to work on than the TC iterations.
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV Ай бұрын
Right on, man!
@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA
@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video ! Well done! Enjoyed it very much !
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, bro.
@robertbedson3207
@robertbedson3207 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation man. I have a rubber mounted 103 in a 17 lowrider...it is a vibrating monster and i love it 😀
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV 3 жыл бұрын
Good deal, man.
@barryblack5562
@barryblack5562 3 жыл бұрын
Lookin at buying an Evo so nice timing. I liked the music
@antoniodossantos6735
@antoniodossantos6735 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff right there brother !!!! 🙏🙌👍
@johnnyblade9272
@johnnyblade9272 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me when I say, I thought you were CRAZY trading down from the Twin cam to the Evo. That was until you explained why you made the trade. In the end you swapped a Heritage Softail for a Heritage Softail and I think you got exactly what you wanted, the same way that guy felt when he took yours home. No Regrets!! Good for you!! By the way the Heritage Softail Classic is my favourite of all the Harley Davidson Motorcycles, just can't afford one... 😄
@rangercwgbear6352
@rangercwgbear6352 Жыл бұрын
Brother I total agree with you I own a 2014 road king and I just got a 1984 Electra glide FLH and she needs some work but can’t wait to get her on the road and feel this Shovel head
@southernstyle067
@southernstyle067 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that shirt also. I'm with you on the not spending the thirty grand. Be good to yourself also.
@danjewell8751
@danjewell8751 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I have both models enjoy both myself
@Mr1FNG
@Mr1FNG 2 жыл бұрын
My very first Harley is a 1997 Ultra Classic, it now has 204,586 miles and only 1 rebuild. Love the way it feels going down the road on long trips. The bike I sold to get my first Harley? It was a 2003 Yamaha R1.
@scottoakley290
@scottoakley290 3 жыл бұрын
With you 100%.... I Love most things two wheeled, But having a bike you connect with is the most important thing, old or new 🤔
@pcofranc
@pcofranc Жыл бұрын
Been riding since '88 and lookin' to pickup a used HD as a second bike. Great life observations about the back roads and the connection with the internals of the engine. 6:15 the feel of that motor...
@SaddleTrampTV
@SaddleTrampTV Жыл бұрын
Right on, man!
@bikerbob187
@bikerbob187 3 жыл бұрын
Well I built my Evo and it's very dependable and I've never seen a 103 twin cam be able to keep up with it but that's not what I built it for it's just fantastic on the road and very dependable
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