Why Your Arrows Are Way More Important Than Your Bow
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2 жыл бұрынWhy Your Arrows Are Way More Important Than Your Bow
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@johngentzel8567 2 жыл бұрын
I like you’re comment on not shooting past 20 yards. We forgot from our primitive ancestors on how to be be better hunters and have gotten lazy with heavier bows and compounds. Rifle hunters have gone the same route with bigger calibers. Learning the animals you hunt by getting close is the challenge, the skill, and the reward. I too have not taken a shot over 20 yards. It’s a thrill like none other in getting close to the animal you want to harvest. Keep up your videos. Thanks for your contribution to this great sport!
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
So perfectly said. You nailed it spot on. Thanks for the great comment.
@boogermeister1 Жыл бұрын
100% spot on. I have too much respect for the animal to take a shot more than 20 yards. When I practice, I do shoot 30-40 yds too, but that only makes me a better shot at the short ranges. Nothing like looking the animal in the eye right before the shot. There is a connection with the animal at that point and then can really appreciate the fact that it gave it's life to put food on your table.
@outdoorsman9384 2 жыл бұрын
Tail right is stiff, tail left is weak for right hand, opposite for left hand, great explanation of this matter Jason 👍
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Been so long since I tuned arrows I can't remember.
@Kurtdog63 2 жыл бұрын
Arrows rule. High FOC even on light bow setups can accomplish amazing penetration results. Also applies to crossbow arrow set ups. Saw one video, woman shooting 40 lbs compound with a high FOC arrow set up had a pass thru on a moose. The arrow came out low on the far side, and broke the moose's leg.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Yep high foc has major advantages
@nakoawarrior3186 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great video. I have had 40 pound bows out shoot 45 pound bows.
@JZMartinez Жыл бұрын
The more I watch your trad videos and plain speak explanation, the more I want to sell my compound and pick up an affordable trad bow and jump into the deep end. This last week of Summer break, I took my son shooting five days in a row with his Bear 1st shot bow while I borrowed a recurve from the range. Shooting with him was way more fun than worrying about being over bowed and trying to max out my DL. More rewarding when the boy says, "Dad! You shot the rabbit target in the butt!" vs trying to get a small group at 20-30yards. Thanks for sharing your passion for archery and pulling back the curtain for the rest of us.
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Glad you are spending that quality time with your son!! Yep a traditional bow is ment to be fun, challenging, and simple. A yet away from stress and a way to enjoy archery and hunting on more of a relaxed primal level. And when the bug bites you it usually bites hard!
@robertplaisier8844 Жыл бұрын
Love this video. Thanks for driving home the importance of high FOC.
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
@kevinmeeske3412 8 ай бұрын
Excellent Thank you so much. Have a Great season
@SamkoTradBow 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you have a great season as well.
@glenurquhart2300 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. So much to learn !
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@gabefranks743 2 жыл бұрын
I been hollering about this vary thing for years even to my compound buddies!!! The arrow is waaaaay more important than alot of shooters think!!! Way to go sir
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% glad you are preaching it too! The more we teach the better the hunters in the woods
@borngeechee7621 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me... I'll be bowhunting for the first time this year.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
You are going to love the adventure and education bowhunting brings! Wishing you great luck this season!
@borngeechee7621 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow Thanks. I've literally watched all of your videos and they've been great learning tools.
@joshpalmer8485 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Subscribed. Cheers from the UK
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
@jeanmorin9095 Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is goooood!
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
@feralgrandad4429 2 жыл бұрын
The one good thing about having a short draw length (I have a Hobbits 26 inch draw too lol) is I find it fairly easy to get higher FOC. Totally agree on the arrow being more important. I killed my Canadian cow elk with a Samick Sage but I spent good money on the shafts and cut on contact fixed head. Nice informative video as usual.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
I agree us shorter draw guys have it easy to make high foc. But the longer draw guys get the bigger power dtroke per pound of bow weight. So it all evens out..lol
@barrystricklin2230 Жыл бұрын
Great video l have always shot 40 to 45 lb longbows use cedar arrows 650 grains 2 blade zwicky always great penetration not real fast but under 20 yards bow is super quiet served me well for 35 years
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Yep its a deadly combination
@questions6746 4 ай бұрын
Energy is not measured in weight. The speed of the string is what counts. Bow design and materials are critical to the speed of the string... Also the goal is to hit the target. Bow design is critical there too. Arrows are not the only thing.
@SamkoTradBow 4 ай бұрын
maybe. but none of that stuff matters to me. as long as the bow shoots where I point it then the arrow is what i focus on making exactly like I want them. they are the most important part of the equation.
@TheWVgoodguy22 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a good illustration of the importance of great arrow flight and having enough mass to get through cleanly more often. Currently with my 60-66 lb compounds I am at 511 grains with a 45 grain outsert and 100 grain head since that’s what is usually available in the shops like Cabela’s. However this year I want to actually build my own arrows. I definitely should go back down to the 9.3 gpi vs the 11.25 gpi in my current Carbon Xpress Mayhem SDS arrows, so I can have more FOC with my arrows and be in that 500-600 grain range.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
That's the beauty of making your own arrows. You can set them up anyway you want and find what works best for you.
@TheWVgoodguy22 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow Indeed and you can tune them to how you and your bow shoots to deliver that high structural integrity and razor 🪒 sharp broadhead to the intended target 🏹🦌🐻🦃🐗 Oh and those 450 grains in the first 6 inches than most folks have in their whole arrow. Pretty awesome 😎
@pensnut08 2 жыл бұрын
Rock and the string.... Semi and empty trailer vs loade trailer.... Explains it perfectly.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!
@robertcarte95 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@greekmaster1001 2 жыл бұрын
Maaaaan you nailed it on this video
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
@TheHYENA87 2 жыл бұрын
Howdy my friend, great video, I've really enjoyed this one along with the lighter bow poundage video. Question. I'm on the high FOC train now, I'm enjoying it. Don't think I'll go back, you touched on fletching size...so if I have 350 grains up front, arrows bareshaft like bullets. Do you think I can get away with 3 x 3 inch feathers? Currently using 4inch and it seems like I cannot tell a difference going to three even with my Eskimos on and not a great release (sometimes)...thought I would ask how to determine how little one I can get away with....seems like the smaller one could get, the less noise for game to hear in the air, My results in wind are identical to yours...I actually remember you posting that years ago on the forum...thanks!
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Yep you could go 3 inch. Test them wet with a Brodhead and make sure they fly good wet. That will help determine how small you can go. With high foc the general rule is less feather the better as the tail is so light. Bit I like to see that big ball of fetching heading to my target. So I shoot high back 3.5 inch
@martingilson663 2 жыл бұрын
Yep !!! Totally on the mark !!!Its not your bow that gets you trophies …..its your arrows !!!
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@krownedklown420klik9 Жыл бұрын
Just worked this out, couldn't get my 500 spines to shoot straight out of my 50# recurve, put the bow on the scale,( after I'd spent weeks fucking around with it and myself) turns out it's pulling 61.3lbs at about 28.5-29 inches. Pulled out the 340 spines I use for my 60# compound bow and they shot dead straight... Well when you buy Chinese, 🤷🤦 At the end of the day I'm happy with it, especially for the money, pretty fast and hits hard. Now with arrows some what sorted it shoots straight,😂😂😂 Great video mate, gotta get better and go hunting some Aussie game🙏🙏🙏
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Glad you got it all sorted! Time to hit the woods with it!
@musikSkool 9 ай бұрын
So the real equation is rather complicated, but basically you take the weight of the arrow, add some of the weight of the string, and add some of the weight of the limbs and divide by the amount of energy. If the energy doesn't change, then the only way to get more energy into the arrow is to increase the weight of the arrow, relative to the weight of the string and limbs. If you could get lighter limbs or a lighter string that would do the same thing, but it would be far simpler to just make the arrow heavier, then it gets more of the bow's energy.
@SamkoTradBow 9 ай бұрын
Correct. And in simple terms make sure the arrow has enough weight to absorb as much energy as possible from the bow.
@nickyslicky Жыл бұрын
I like your style man
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
thanks
@enersonnathan 2 жыл бұрын
Jason, how does weight/grain change when cutting arrows to length? So you subtract what you cut off or is the arrow still considered the same grain? You mentioned a different channel that goes into more detail. Hoping to learn more as I just ordered my first traditional bow (samick sage) and am looking for some arrows to start shooting.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Arrows have a gpi rating in them. Meaning grains per inch. This is how much each inch of arrow shaft weighs. So if your arrow is 10 gpi and you cut have an inch off you removed 5 grains.
@enersonnathan 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow thanks Jason. You are a wealth of info. Enjoy that Georgia heat!!
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
@@enersonnathan thanks! Wont be down in ga until November, but super excited
@stij6j 2 жыл бұрын
Jason, what product are you using to cut your feathers?
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
3 rivery feather chopper. I buy the 4 inch version and drop the plate as far as it will go to give me the tallest feather. Then I cut them with scissors to about 3 and 3/4 inches
@tjhoss6729 2 жыл бұрын
Articulated it perfect!👍 Different topic but curious🤔 Do you use lighted arrow Knox? If so what brand do you recommend and if not, why not? I'm sure you've thought this through......😁 Thanks in advance 😊
@TheBeingReal 2 жыл бұрын
From a crossbow user: lighted nocks are worth the cost. Track your shot and retrieve your arrow.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBeingReal yep lighted knocks sure do help you see the hit location on fast moving arrows and bolts.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
I do not use them. I did hunt one season with them. But my arrows are slow enough and I use such bright feathers that I don't need them. So for me it's a waste of money. But for fast arrows or small or dark colored fletching, well worth using
@tjhoss6729 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow Thank you for the response. Gotta admit, I'm liking your colors👌
@mocheford 2 жыл бұрын
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@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the first time yt algorithum worked to my advantage..lol. Thank you for subscribing and hope you enjoy all the content. 2 vids a week on Friday and Tuesday like clock work!
@jatbatman 2 жыл бұрын
One more reason the arrow is more important than the bow. One can be used as a stand alone if absolutely necessary. A bow will do almost no good without an arrow, but if you get stuck in a survival situation an arrow could be beneficial alone. You can use it for things like spear fishing, camp site security (punji spikes and such), small game traps, and maybe spear hunting but the shaft would need more support.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
very true and great points
@thewhiskybowman 2 жыл бұрын
I can see why you would set up your arrows that way for hunting, but that's not something I do as bow hunting is illegal where I live. In field archery we need to be able to shoot anything from 20 feet to 80 yards, with the majority of distances being well over 20 yards, so heavier arrows are not the ideal set up for that. If I was only shooting short ranges, like you do, I dare say I would probably go the same route as you though, so this was interesting to watch to see your rationale for it.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Yep traditional archery and traditional bowhunting are 2 completely different worlds when it comes to set ups. And I can 100% see where you would require light arrows!
@matthewyu3531 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have an important question, when you go out hunting, do you ever encounter a large pack of wolves? How many arrows do you carry to hunt? How many arrows would you bring to keep yourself safe?
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
I ha e encountered wolves in Canada on bear hunts. Such amazing animals! I carry 4 broadheads. Never once really worried about my safety out in the woods. If I were concerned I'd carry a gun with me too.
@matthewyu3531 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow Thank you.
@martingilson663 2 жыл бұрын
Just one 9mm handgun !!
@davidholliday2703 2 жыл бұрын
Would have thought that with all that weight up front, you would need a stiffer spine arrow. I know cutting the arrow shorter stiffens it.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
I use custom made 3 inch long inserts that make my total flexable shaft only 24 inches.
@johnriggs9016 2 жыл бұрын
4 fletch 90 degree helical the best ,you will be amazed once you try. Giving everyone free advice from years of experience for free, lol. Shorten arrows close to draw length, don’t leave length.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Yep 4 fletch are great. I used to shoot 4 fletch and loved it. I'm just too lazy to take the time to stick another feather on there..lol but they do work fantastic!
@whilomforge3402 Жыл бұрын
I always tell people to try to throw a feather as fast as you can… then try that with a stone. It’s the same principle, just on a different scale.
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Great example
@krownedklown420klik9 Жыл бұрын
You can also throw a smaller stone faster and further than a large one... Just don't hurt as much when it hit. I really like your way of putting it.👍
@SuperImmunologist 3 ай бұрын
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@boogermeister1 Жыл бұрын
Lots of good information here great video but it wears me out to listen to you you have a lot of energy
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@graphguy 2 жыл бұрын
Bows are for show, arrows get you to your destination.
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@caseysmith544 2 жыл бұрын
Flaw is that going too high of Grains per pound for all bows, the arrow will not make it down the range doing the rear end drop or front depending on how you weight the bow, being balanced or high front of center and you have the arrow weighted correctly for the bow.
@caseysmith544 2 жыл бұрын
I have found this out the hard way and some arrows that were spined at 550 aluminums were too heavy for the bow yet about spine the same as my other arrows that were Musen 500 or 1916 the 550 was just like a 1917/1918 so about 3 of the 6 arrows got canned as I had tried to fix the fletching thinking that was the issue. I have since got some arrows that are correct weight for the bow, some 500 of a different company that are similar to the Musen just that they are a true 550 not 500 so might be a bit bendy but are same weight with better foam rubber fletching made for shooting off the rest unlike the the Musen fletching a Sharrow/Huntadoor arrow that is rather good for the foam rubber for shooting off the rest. The really big flaw is the arrows I am using are black with a bit of white, so they do get hard to see when lost in tall grass, but I plan to fix this soon.
@nakoawarrior3186 2 жыл бұрын
Um what? Um shootin 40 something pound bows? I'm shooting it out of a 57 pound bow? Lay off the suggar?
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Um OK! Thanks for commenting
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