Trail-Ready Dual Sport for Under $3,000! 2023 Honda XR150L First Ride and Review

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@jaymsentertainmentchannel9188 Ай бұрын

I've had similar bike like this for over 8yrs now Honda XR125. It's very durable on the street and off-road and the engine hardly gives me problem and I service it once every 2 months and change oil every month. I've crossed 3 African countries (Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia) with it and I experienced no mechanical problems. It been my best bike so far.

@RedBud315 Жыл бұрын

It's always more fun to ride a slow vehicle fast than a fast vehicle slow.

@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын

Hey man, if it has two wheels & a motor, count me in! Brakes optional.

@jhock2781 7 ай бұрын

100% agree. My friends always make fun of me saying a Miata is way more fun than an STI. They just don't get it. I have a CRF450RL that I am not skilled enough to shred on. This I could definitely hold my own on and even improve my skills enough to ride the CRF faster. I have that bike so I can get to the desert and camp without loading it in a truck, so there's a trade-off. It can definitely be a handful off road for someone with my limited skill set.

@KE0ZCO 4 ай бұрын

Exactly

@pfflyers1 10 ай бұрын

I went to my local Honda dealer ready to buy this XR 150. They wanted $4500 out the door ... I told them NO THANKS. Who in their right mind pays that high a premium?

@USNVA-yn6cp Ай бұрын

they love to pull this shit ,,,thats how they lose sales... Ford did the same thing with the Mavericak truck when it came out,, base price was 19,900.. and they were all marked up at least 6 grand over,, they get no sale from me

@slimsqde7397 11 ай бұрын

i love how simple this bike is, I feel like new stuff is just too overcomplicated sometimes, sometimes its just more things to break. this style of honda bikes are so bulletproof

@joecamel6835 10 ай бұрын

It's too powerful for you.

@enerim19 Жыл бұрын

the XR150L, along with CRF150L, is one of the most invincible bike, very reliable and dependable especially in rural areas, in the Philippinees. only cost less than $1,700.

@RedBud315 Жыл бұрын

The guy at the dealer handling the DMV paperwork on mine gave me a dirty look and said "Really?" when I declined the extended warranty and prepaid maintenance package he tried to push on me. I said this is a Honda that will probably outlast me since I'm 60.

@lightweight3908 Жыл бұрын

It's not $1700 but $2700!

@enerim19 Жыл бұрын

@@lightweight3908 im very clear, it's the price in the Philippines.. 😊

@scubarubanzaii Жыл бұрын

@@lightweight3908PH gets a market price adjustment down because of relative wages.

@vikingrogaland2844 Жыл бұрын

Now the price has risen to 1800 usd (98000 pesos), but you can find left over bikes for 92000 pesos.

@dpetrick Жыл бұрын

Love my XR150, lots of fun to ride. Great addition to my garage. Been riding since the 60's.

@mblythe21 10 ай бұрын

I bought this as a commuter bike. Drive it almost everyday just 12 miles on surface streets. Just changed the oil. I have no complaints.

@cottonhiker 9 ай бұрын

Modern small engine bikes have completely changed my mind when it comes to what i thought I needed!? Especially when it comes down to riding off road!? I love it! 🙏🤷🏼‍♂️🫶

@Tanstaafl1976 11 ай бұрын

I'd likely buy one within the next few weeks, but, check it out: 1 local dealer's price is $5,250, and others are also asking for more than $1,000 over MSRP for "dealer mark-up." Some Honda dealers have really become scumbags. This never happened when I bought my Hondas back in the 1970s.

@schmidtlifeproductions603 Ай бұрын

Ya these bikes aren’t worth $5k. Maybe 4 out the door.

@JarmelSingsKaraoke Жыл бұрын

ALEX .. Love the POV rides... ... More Racing please..your good at it.....Have a good day everybody ✌️

@Quadrenaro Жыл бұрын

Reminds me alot of my 70's dual sport. Small bore, dual sport, low cost, decently fuel efficiency (my carb needs a bit of work, but I'm getting close to 35-40mpg) and a great starter bike.

@alaingillot4718 11 ай бұрын

I used to get 60 plus on a Yamaha SR500 , you should get more then that ????

@Quadrenaro 11 ай бұрын

@@alaingillot4718 I did some work on the carb and got it back up to 55mph. It has a high-low gear box, which is why it's top is so low. It's the perfect dirt road bike though.

@TheTryingDutchman 10 ай бұрын

I get 90mpg easy on this honda 150.. 35-40mpg is quite terrible for this engine deplacement

@tonic2123 Жыл бұрын

You can also up the speed by swapping your carb, exhaust, and sprockets. That'll get you a lot closer to 70 on flat.

@cjm8172 11 ай бұрын

Why on this small bike

@tonic2123 11 ай бұрын

@@cjm8172 why make anything go faster

@cattalkbmx 11 ай бұрын

@@cjm8172 You could take the wheels off and go a lot slower.

@OhWizzer 11 ай бұрын

@@cattalkbmxthat my friend is very true

@FtanmoOfEtheirys 9 ай бұрын

@@cjm8172 Good fuel mileage and the ability to keep up with traffic comfortably on the highway at 55-60.

@GeronimoJenkins Жыл бұрын

Nice job. POV trail riding looked great.

@marinehero 10 ай бұрын

Really great video! I did cross country 3 times in Cambodia on a bike like this. 13 days, 10 days, and a week. Dunno the mileage or kilometers covered, but it was over 900 miles on the 1st trip if I remember correctly.

@wallebo 10 ай бұрын

Very enjoyable video. Thanks for all of your hard work.

@thomasmarquez6790 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for this review! I just recently purchased a XR650L at a authorized dealer. I ride the interstate a lot. At the same time I want a bike I putt around town. The XR650L has a seat height of 37” and 11” of travel. 13” of ground clearance so it’s a tall bike. I love the 650 but after seeing the review I want to get a 150 to add to collection. Awesome small displacement bike and ride safe!

@johncox5297 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for a solid street /trail review on this bike. Thanks

@phatsmitty 8 ай бұрын

Nice work Alex!

@trendzkilla8458 10 ай бұрын

Very good review of the bike. Really helpful. Thanks

@thebigguy8306 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, Alex, nice seeing you in front of the camera. Great detailed review. You and Kase should spend a weekend riding and repairing with 2Vintage in Wisconsin

@C-Henry Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for you guys to do a video on this one, and have been shamelessly gobbling up content on it from several other channels. Its seems like it could be a great first bike, and at a price thats a little easier to justify to the wife.

@golfbravowhiskey8669 Жыл бұрын

Bought one in April in east tx. I got the black one. They sold it for 2799.00. Kind of fun machine. I got it for a nephew to come ride I’m 6’3 and 230# and it’s still fits me, i like the small nibble machine.

@gabriela.2526 Жыл бұрын

Got mine in Baytown Eastside Honda for 4400

@JM-dr1vl Жыл бұрын

@@gabriela.2526 Mine was 4200 in Phoenix

@golfbravowhiskey8669 Жыл бұрын

@@gabriela.2526 man. Yeah, I got mine at H&W motorsports in Palestine.

@fratermus5502 Жыл бұрын

This bike is exactly what I'm looking for.

@davidrahbany 10 ай бұрын

Totally agree with this review. Added to my garage and my 14 year old daughter is learning how to ride it. Super fun grocery getter.

@KE0ZCO 4 ай бұрын

I think you did a great review. Thank you.

@phawkplyr 8 ай бұрын

I love your spin on it being slow. "So you can really look around and enjoy the scenery" lol

@thumperjr100 Жыл бұрын

Great content

@nacho33ful 8 ай бұрын

Neat ride thanks for sharing.

@harveysimon3185 Жыл бұрын

This video did it right!! Thank you

@bravetraveler21 Жыл бұрын

Great Video

@davidkallstrom4349 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@JuiceBoxScott Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this bike to show up in showrooms. It might be hard not to swipe my debit card and buy a brand new motorcycle.

@RedBud315 Жыл бұрын

I used my credit card so that I can use the miles to buy some accessories like better mirrors and some bigger foot pegs and saddle/tank bags.

@coffelt683 9 ай бұрын

I rode a crf150 on the street/dirt for a summer when I was a teenager and although it was extremely slow it was a ton of fun for what it was. I also had an rmz250 for when I actually wanted to go fast offroad but I spent more time on the 150 since I could take it on backroads without getting the cops called on me lol

@harrystephens1658 11 ай бұрын

I have a crf 250L, and a cb 500X. But for riding on the small farm and going to the neighbors my XR 100 is alot of fun.

@jamesgaffney7591 Жыл бұрын

Interested how the stock tires do in sand and heavier dirt riding or what the best after market tire mid would be

@slimsqde7397 11 ай бұрын

i really like this bike, so simple and honda saved money in the right spots while still having quality where its needed. Id 100% consider one of these for a around town commuter, also air cooled is awsome. Im curious to see how much power you could get out of that motor with some upgrades, carb, exhaust, intake. would be nice to get it to cruise 60 comfortably and I feel that's possible from a 150

@koolkei 7 ай бұрын

well bud. since the engine has been around for literal decades in some parts of the world. namely asia. the aftermarket for these things are insane. big bore with longer stroke crank can easily double the capacity to 300cc, and that's only for plug and play parts, not custom modified ones. cams are aplenty too. and exhaust can be anything you imagine. it can take the simple 13hp engine up to 30-40hp or more depending on how aggressive the cams and tunes are

@arideinthecountry Жыл бұрын

Great video. Love this bike. I have a CRF250L and my wife wants a bike to join me on my back road rides in the rural area where we live in Ohio. This would be a great bike for her! Thanks for sharing

@Permitmon 10 ай бұрын

Excellent. Thanks.

@leosolis5846 4 ай бұрын

Nice review

@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын

Solvang has a nice little motorcycle museum too. (At least they did in the early 2000's when I was there)

@TheTryingDutchman 10 ай бұрын

Awesome video. I have one of these and a honda pcx 150. Both very economical, light and handy and i bought both for less money than one 500 cc honda lol. I have a triumph daytona 675 for trackdays (roadlegal, semislicks) but other than that all i drive is 150's lol.

@aubreygmcghee 11 ай бұрын

I'm curious as well can you jump the bike? I know with the Hawk 250 if you jump it you can taco the front wheel and bend the swing arm. Is the Honda sturdy enough to jump?

@JM-cl7wk 3 ай бұрын

I’m so happy to have this as my first bike 🏍️ it suits me perfectly been struggling to find a good fit. Size, Height, Weight… Tried the Harley’s but had a hard time managing the Weight. Plus I wanted something to take on the trails. Maybe one day I’ll get my dream Harley. but this Honda is perfect! I hope to have my Honda for many years. 🎉

@Ridesfar 10 ай бұрын

Great video on the new Honda Dual Sport! However, please turn that right turn signal off! :) Well, you finally figured it out.

@1DrBar 11 ай бұрын

What rpm is the engine spinning at while cruising at 55 mph, and how far can one go on one tank of gas before one hits reserve?

@WW-wf8tu Жыл бұрын

You did well Alex. Trail riding/dirt will give you a heck of a work out. lol Road bikers don't truly get the experience until they have done it on the dirt. A lot of stabilizer muscles people don't even know they have are taxed doing that. You should get a proper dirt bike and utilize that for the fun and workouts while you are young enough to appreciate it. The seat height on this is a bit too tall for me. And I am no longer a fan of air cooled. Merely because I have had both and it is a dog on hot days. Not to mention I don't need the added heat coming off the fins on me. However, that being said, I agree with you. It would make for a very nice starters bike. Good for taking the road course test on for a motorcycle license too. Having small nimble bikes makes the obstacle course a breeze.

@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын

I'm 70, & 2 days ago I was riding washed out fire roads for 3 hours. Still sore!

@scotteger6271 10 ай бұрын

That 32” seat height is going to drop considerably once anyone of average weight gets on the bike. I had a Yamaha XT250 with a 32” seat and it was easily 30” once sitting on it.

@savage22bolt32 10 ай бұрын

@@scotteger6271 I would be happy with 32" seat. My CRF250L is a couple inches higher. When I can, I park next to a curb to stand on so I can throw my right leg over.

@PipeOPhile 11 ай бұрын

Mind blown, I wish we got something like this in europe but it's impossible due to carbs. I'd buy this for 3 grand all day long, and according to comments it's sold in asia for much less too. Capable, affordable, reliable and cheap motoring, excellent

@grayeagle4521 Жыл бұрын

Very cool Dual Sport thinking of getting one for those reasons but evetime the dealers around me get them in they sell before I get to see one very popular little bike around here.

@genebond Жыл бұрын

Great review. I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison with the TW200. I think they are after the same market, and similar capabilities.

@RyGuyTheAVGuy Жыл бұрын

took my MSF on a TW200, super fun little bike

@The1stDukeDroklar 11 ай бұрын

$2000 more

@calmistheway 10 ай бұрын

@@The1stDukeDroklar Just get a used dr200... tons of fun.

@stoicllc2352 Жыл бұрын

Hopefully dealers will get some inventory some day so we can look and try them.

@klrskir Жыл бұрын

Cancel the turn signal, activate the high beam. It's a great bike and I'm ready for the 600mi. service. Fun little ride.

@claveelgarron4049 6 ай бұрын

I just bought one in Argentina, amazing bike, really fun to ride

@jimlawrence7758 Жыл бұрын

Bought xr150l 2 months ago and love it. Drive it to work and around town. I get a consistent 88mpg, my top speed is 55mph and I’m 230lbs. It’s quiet, snappy in lower gears.

@Smith.Wesson.432UC 11 ай бұрын

I weigh 180 and my 1st ride was very disappointing speed and power wise. Top speed most of the time was 47 48 and a few times on downgrades I reached 50. Was also sputtering near my top speeds. Feel like I've bought a lemon.

@Darkmatter321 11 ай бұрын

@@Smith.Wesson.432UCcheck your carburator. You can also upgrade to a 27mm carb. If you live in the US they cost around 26 bucks, and will give you more power than the stock. Worth a try

@jackbuckleyauto 11 ай бұрын

Bro im 100 pounds lighter than you and my XR150L is screaming in top gear at 30mph how tf are you getting it to 55

@aubreygmcghee 11 ай бұрын

@@jackbuckleyautoMaybe your carb needs to be adjusted for altitude?

@slimsqde7397 11 ай бұрын

@@jackbuckleyauto something is really wrong if your topped out on a 150 and only going 30, my crf110 will hit 30 easily lmao, I'm 150 lbs

@jackle842000 9 ай бұрын

Is there any other light (650 & under) off road oriented bike that's as comfortable as this one? Trying to weigh my options of something more powerful but still light to test ride since I'm 6'4" and 230 lbs but seat comfort seems to be hard to get and that's my #1 priority along with low vibration long as it'll get me down the road for back road cruising and off road here and there but easily for rough rocky stuff. I don't hardly stand and ride as I'm an explorer not a motocross rider. I'm no beginner either but was looking at something better balanced and way less top heavy than a klr650 which sadly would even include an Africa twin 1100. 09 Klr 650 I had was just sooooo top heavy & uncomfortable for very long riding cause the seat was just too hard I guess even though it was wide. Even tried a custom corbin (or maybe it was seat concepts) can't remember good, but nope

@martinheatingcoolingmartin4693 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for mentioning about the hawk because I on the hawk and I said the same thing to myself that the XR looks just like the hawk now I feel like better about buying an XR

@user-lr6rr4fn1v 11 ай бұрын

Clutch Modulation? I rode a new 150L a few days ago, it was fun but the clutch modulation was Horrible! Its like a switch on or off no modulation. How was the clutch on the bike you rode?

@rithgadicherla5838 10 ай бұрын

Just bought this as my first motorbike. 4200 out the door. Stoked to take delivery

@BonsaiRaygun21 7 ай бұрын

Hell yea man welcome to the club, hope your XR is treating you well so far

@andrewsmith9575 Жыл бұрын

Ok Alex, make sure you tell all the good folks out there that the bike prices are “starting out” under 3K. Fees and taxes are always part of anything with a vin number. If you are paying over retail and just can’t wait, we’ll good luck. Alex, you and I have to talk about a build on a XR150. Hmmm, kind of like my 03’ CRF150f (171cc monster)? Something along the lines of Dr. Evil’s laughter?

@jpslaym0936 9 ай бұрын

Solvang CA is such a gorgeous area, reminds me a lot of another big wine making area, Tuscany in Italy.

@Nick_Spencer Жыл бұрын

Something that isnt talked about anywhere on this bike. It has the EXACT SAME power to weight as a 2023 honda Grom. so it is basically just a grom for taller people. I originally wanted a grom but this is cheaper and I wont look so goofy on it at 6ft tall and fits everything I need it to do. Don't let anyone tell you that "you need a bigger bike, you will regret getting just a 150" get what you want and what fits your needs. Motorcycles are meant to be fun! just like the old saying goes, I'd rather go fast in a slow car than slow in a fast car.

@user-eq9lg8vv7h 5 ай бұрын

Questions. I have a Honda Monkey too set up for off road. I love the bike but I retired and moved to northern Wi where trails are all over from my door, which means I’m riding off road 95% of the time and my Monkey is getting hammered, plus those 12” wheels can be deadly. So my questions are, is the XR noticeably better off road then the Monkey, and does it have 5 more mph in it then the Monkey? I’m eager to hear your response. Thank you. Mike

@HOOSIERDADDY385 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I am looking for something to replace the Monkey i had with.

@elgringoec 10 ай бұрын

That's really tempting.

@Captainkirk88410 11 ай бұрын

I’ve owned my xr150 since 2019 it’s a great bike for the money. I paid $1711.00 out the door brand new.

@cjm8172 11 ай бұрын

Everybody always has to mention "when I was in college." Pretty much why I stay home and watch old untouchables episodes.

@Lemoo 11 ай бұрын

Looks good

@user-nr8me4vd1p Жыл бұрын

Just got one for my 17 yr old to learn how to ride on. And it's been the best investment I've made in a long time. The whole family rides it and I'm in the market for another one

@smoothboye4203 11 ай бұрын

Sand is super fun on the XR for me. You can "swim" it by like shifting the weight of your hips

@fishermarine4576 4 ай бұрын

Just got mine 3/23/24 . Out the door price $3800 . It is a nice bike

@aubreygmcghee 11 ай бұрын

Have you clocked it with gps? Most of those speedometers are off. I'd be curious to see if the top speed on it is accurate? I'm also curious how it differed from the Hawk 250? I know you said it felt much better but can you give any specifics? I own a Raven which is a Chinese bike just like the Hawk.

@stephenzimmerman193 9 ай бұрын

They are fairly accurate, at least the ones i experienced while living in central America were. Fun little bikes!

@MDHenry4 11 ай бұрын

Cool love that cheap but what is the displacement? Love the analog gauge great review bud

@MrTuteeeeeeeeeeeeeee 9 ай бұрын

150cc

@vikingrogaland2844 Жыл бұрын

Great review! I had a brand new XR150L that I bought in the Philippines back in January 2020. The price was 1650 USD on the road. I did some minor mods, like lowering the front mudguard, putting an extra mudflap to protect the engine from excessive mud. I installed a skid plate under the engine, and removed the original 24mm carburetor and installed a 27mm XR200 carb on it, and a big bore cylinder Ø63,5mm that made it a 183cc bike. Removed also the rubber over the air intake box to have more airflow to it. Then I installed a LED lamp at the front as an extra light source, and a 12v charge device. A top box was also mounted. Otherwise it was perfect! Amazing bike indeed! By the way, it seems as though the US models has a 22mm carburetor. Remove it and check the diameter of the intake. On my bike it was 27mm, so it was just very logic to install a 27mm carb for more power. I suggest US owners change to a larger carburetor too if you want some more grunt. But the biggest difference was when I put on the big bore cylinder. Plug and play! The models in the Philippines have the engine built in Japan according to some rumors, the frame built in Thailand, and some parts coming in from China. The US models are assembled in Mexico, and this bike has been sold for many years in South American countries, and also in Australia. A similar bike was the XR125 that was sold even in Europe.

@Darkmatter321 11 ай бұрын

How much was the big bore kit and where in there Philippines can I get it please?

@aubreygmcghee 11 ай бұрын

What was the top speed with the mods you did to it?

@allegory7638 Ай бұрын

I would buy this way over a Grom, would be a blast around town and you can go exploring! Ditch the passenger pegs and brackets, get a lithium battery and knock some weight off of it.

@johnepperson8867 11 ай бұрын

AWESOME review, THANK YOU ! I wish the Monkey was cheaper, maybe i'll have to consider this bike instead.

@carlosayala9995 Жыл бұрын

Just tried my local bike shop out the door they want 5700😢

@snomass1 Жыл бұрын

Twice as much😢

@back-engineered Жыл бұрын

Scammers. Average out the door price that people are paying is about 4200. Depending on dealer, they can be had for as little as 3700.

@carlosayala9995 Жыл бұрын

@@back-engineered any in Florida for 3700?

@back-engineered Жыл бұрын

@carlosayala9995 not sure. I live in Central Florida and have called everywhere. Lowest quote I got was 4650 OTD at Love motorsports in Homosassa. The same dealership quoted me 3800 OTD last month, but I cant remember the sales guy's name. Was a different person last week that quoted me 4650. Im sure once you're there in person, you can get them down to 4100ish if you just stick to your price during negotiation.

@carlosayala9995 Жыл бұрын

@kevinwalker7778 I am telling you, if it is 3700 I'll get it any more than that nah

@3starsfell 7 ай бұрын

Santa ynez is a great ride for sure, great wine also

@user-up7yn2kn6u 7 ай бұрын

Is it possible to change this to automatic or no?

@DersNoNem 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully this thing will available in my country

@cerberus2881 11 ай бұрын

What small bike Would handle LA's 405?

@kennethleonard6369 Жыл бұрын

love it

@ronoldcross8189 Жыл бұрын

Looks good as a second, "kick around" bike.

@cazgerald9471 11 ай бұрын

I bought one of these back in 2015

@me-sy7gt 9 ай бұрын

What do you use for a mic set up?

@juliwho101 11 ай бұрын

I wonder why Honda decided to launch the 150L instead of the 190L in the US, here in Mexico we have both for a long time now and they both prove to be super reliable..

@RatherBeWheeling Жыл бұрын

Most dealerships around here have no Hondas, a few of these at full MSRP plus freight and setup adds another 1000$ better off buying a nice used bike or ship it to my door and let me assemble it to save the 600$ "assembly fee". why pay for it to be made twice anyway.

@larryjanson4011 11 ай бұрын

stater spark? or computer controlled?

@ramonribas7211 11 ай бұрын

Mine was 3500 out the door Sedalia Missouri getting 100 mpg will post all my custom mods and updates on my channel later this week. Great bikes I bought my first new bike in 1974 Yamaha ty80 and this xr150L gives me the same fun levels from my childhood!

@shadowdance4666 3 ай бұрын

I believe that I’ve owned a walk behind lawnmower with 12hp lol

@FloridaTingz 10 ай бұрын

Sick

@OtterPup_ 10 ай бұрын

Is there a good 200cc Honda dual sport?

@tylertucker4478 8 ай бұрын

I'm wanting a grom so bad cuz they look fun but so do these

@insiainutorrt259 Жыл бұрын

if i heard right my used 2008 yamaha wr125r has more horses than that one with disks front and back without abs.... and proper 21 front...

@bennickerson9581 10 ай бұрын

air down the tires when you get off the road. It makes a huge difference

@matthew3136 Жыл бұрын

best bike to get someone to learn to ride.

@wellhello2828 Жыл бұрын

He is riding with guys who work for Honda, this is an ad. Do not be fooled by marketing people. It is crazy to watch this and see how many parts are the exact same part as are on the hawk 250. The front forks all of the the plastics, the gas tank cap, the turn signals front and rear, the license plate mounting bracket, rear brake lever, ect. Swing arm is the same but with an extra hole drilled. It literally has the same hawk 250 dash cluster but rebranded. Dash isn't electronic like the 2,000 dollar delivered hawk DLX is. That's just what you can identify by looking at a picture of it. Hawk DLX also has much better forks than this AND comes with knobbier tires AND a rear disk brake AND fuel injected AND a 229cc engine. Did I mention its OVER 1k cheaper delivered with no dealer markup or delivery fee? I don't have skin in the game on either side, but as I see it the real difference here may just be a Honda branded engine. That being said, low displacement 4 stroke engines aren't exactly rocket science and have been around for a minute. I'm SURE the assembly of the Honda is to a higher standard. TFL may just have a financial stake in keeping the value of big Japanese manufacturer's products higher. This is a worn out 149cc bike that Honda is squeezing money out of that they've now thrown into the US market when there are competitive offerings that smoke it. Watch 1 POV video of a hawk 250 trail ride, they even sound identical. This is a Chinese bike with Japanese branding and at a big manufacturer price as well.

@DFX2KX Жыл бұрын

I like Hawks/magicians/etc. I will defend them for what they are. If you absolutely need transportation and the Used Bike market is garbage where you live? They'll work fine! But there's a *reason* they're so cheap, few of them, actually. It looks like a hawk because hawks are clones of this very bike with a bigger Honda-clone engine. 1) Not all states will let a non-dealer get a title with just an MCO/MSO, so if you want to plate it you're going to have a fun time (involving Vermont or some other state that'll title anything that moves). A few won't register a Chinese bike *at all* even if you've got a Title. So you have that problem. California is particularly anal about this sort of thing. 2) looking at that speedo, this is going as fast as the Hawks do when stock. Yeah, they've got a bigger engine, but it's not making much more power. The videos you see of a Hawk 250 ripping through trails have been jetted and had exhaust tuning done. This bike can have the same changes made, and would probably be within 1-2 hp of the 250. 3) Honda bikes actually have a warranty worth talking about.. Hawk? it's like 3 months. Some sellers give you a better warranty but it's not guaranteed. Also some folks just want to take it to a dealer for servicing instead of faffing about with it themselves. So there's that. 4) The genuine Honda engines have an actual oil filter, and they last a *lot* longer on average, so you just don't need to mess with them as much. 5) Lifan has a quality/warrenty level that's more on par with a major manufacturer, buuuuut Lifans are more expensive...