Trailmaster MB200-2 Fork Upgrade In 15 Minutes!!!!
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2 жыл бұрынHey guys FatBuddyCat here and today we are tackling the Factory Front Suspension Mod for the Trailmaster. This includes changing the fork oil, adding a preload spacer extension and all the steps necessary to obtain an improved compression rate that will be more agreeable for adults and slightly aggressive riders.
Here is a list of links to Facebook Groups and Individuals who helped make this possible!!
Rattle Can Customs
/ rattlecancustoms
Coleman/Baja & Trailmaster Mini Bike Enthusiasts Group
groups/33946...
Trailmaster MB200 Performance Tips Tricks & Mods
groups/40935...
Rear Suspension 11 inch Gas Shocks
www.studzracing.com
Chad Tetrault
groups/40935...
Randy Gumpit
groups/Trail...
DirtFoot Racing
/ @dirtfootracing8788
My Source For Parts
OMB Warehouse
www.ombwarehouse.com
FBC5OFF
Gray Goat
/ thegraygoatgarage
NR Racing
www.nrracing.com/
Link's Garage
/ linksgarage
Zach's ProMod
/ zmdixon87
H&H Racing Bad Back and Knees Club
/ dhippstarr
www.DeafDuckRacing.com
www.JVdesignCO.com
@samsgarage1716 2 жыл бұрын
My front forks are a little bit bent so I need to do that same upgrade one day.You always hooking up your mini bikes better than ever.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to try this for a very long time.
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed when it was 100 ml. That's around the amount that small dirt bikes of the 1970's used. As the years went on the tubes got bigger requiring more oil.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely on the primitive side!
@KentuckyFriedFixes 2 жыл бұрын
Great video FBC! This is gonna help a lot of guys!
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so! It made a HUGE difference. I can throw the front end and wheelie through stuff now. I grew up riding rough trails and like to get my front up. As for turning I was diving the front and pulling the rear around where now I can plant the front and counter steer the rear better. I have a short ride video pov ride video done you'll notice how much smoother my transitions are.
@MattFaust Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the video. I just ordered exactly what you used. Still waiting on my MB200 to arrive but I know from previous bikes/pit bikes this mod works well. Thanks again.
@fatbuddycat Жыл бұрын
Awesome! You're welcome!!
@joshuagerlach6943 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great information.. I did this to the bt & it’s totally awesome. It didn’t have spacers & fit 9/16 sockets perfectly.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! I learned this by studying and asking questions from some other guys in the community. I know someone else has a video on it but I just cut out all the hibbity hoopla.
@Dez425 Жыл бұрын
Thank You FBC!! I been waiting since 2020 for someone to make this video!! Didn't even know how to get em open, but then again never took em off to see how lol. Good Job! Thanks again for another great video!
@fatbuddycat Жыл бұрын
No problem! I tried to keep it short and sweet but captured all the steps.
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
That bike looks awesome 👍
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! If you're into mechanical function it's easier to take a liking to. I can pretty much use a rag, some scrap cardboard and a Rattle Can from any angle and keep on trucking!
@genfab3365 2 жыл бұрын
I weigh 170 pounds and they feel pretty spongy to me. Definitely considering trying this, i’ll put it on the list of 500 other mods I want to do to my Trailmaster.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 240! Imagine how soft it is for my considerable bulk!
@genfab3365 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat No kidding! Haha. I noticed you have the stock rear shocks on still. How do they feel for you? do you plan on upgrading?
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@genfab3365 the stock rear shocks left the party 6 months ago! I have the 11 inch Gas shocks from Studz Racing. I covered that back when I cut the frame in half.....they've worked great ever since!
@Tampaboys 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
Works great to add some stiffness and take out the sag.
@DIYWilly 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I need to do.. Thanks for the information and sharing!
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
No problem! It feels like a big improvement just pushing on the handlebars.
@DIYWilly 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat Good to know. I’m still having problems with disc brake on the 224 bike? After a bit of riding the brake just doesn’t work anymore. Not sure what’s going on. I may upgrade again to a dual piston to tame the 224 beast. I’m also researching a new brake rotor. That might also help.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWilly Wowzers! That's a pretty simple design on that single piston brake too. Is it broken or just not strong enough?
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWilly you can step up to a higher level caliper but it's going to start getting expensive next. The MCP systems are supposed to be pretty good and there is Brembo. If you don't want mini bike results your going to have to start using motorcycle parts. The biggest hang up is spacing everything out and making the hubs work. Brakes and foot pegs are my least favorite thing to figure out.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYWilly what about the Trailmaster brake and adapter? The dual piston brakes have more meat on the wheel side but it should clear those 8s.
@coolhorse13 Жыл бұрын
thANK YOU!!
@fatbuddycat Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! This is an excellent modification for these bikes.
@nollidelddik Жыл бұрын
Can use a peice of pvc tubing and a washer. Burley supplies that for motorcycle dropins so will work for this being a smaller setup.
@fatbuddycat Жыл бұрын
I like it!!
@Spacecruizer203 2 жыл бұрын
im lovin the reinforced frame all customed out !!!!!!lookin mean homie 100%
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've had some help from other great builders/enthusiasts all along the way. It's 💯% a community effort as I'm learning all these modifications as I go.
@Spacecruizer203 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat First maitnance front suspension mini bike vid i ever watched i have the motovox front suspension i have to find a vid on them there just like the megamoto i believe only they have one bolt on them instead of the 2 like the mm80's
@Spacecruizer203 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat my frony shocks pop up randomly like a crazy chick with tourettes syndrome lmao just be popin up outta no where
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spacecruizer203 lol which bike?
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spacecruizer203 I'm bringing my Warrior back so I'm going to be trying those too.
@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I did this sooner.....waaaay easier than anticipated.
@dirtfootracing8788 2 жыл бұрын
I made spacers from some tubing I had in the shop - made a set for my Big Red MB200. The factory fork oil is questionable.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
This is nice and firm for sure.
@mklein5179 2 жыл бұрын
I wish mini bike forks were like mtb bikes. So many choices
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
There's different springs, you can use poly spacers that flex like bump stops, different oil.....all kinds of cool tricks!
@mklein5179 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat I wish somebody would start an after market mini bike fork company
@mklein5179 2 жыл бұрын
Fat buddy forks?
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@mklein5179 we really do need a better universal option for the big bikes.
@rodneyws1977 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Ruger 10/22 rifle and by the time I was done upgrading parts I wasn't sure if anything was still an original Ruger part other than the fire control mechanism. I don't think you have a Trailmaster bike anymore.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
Lol it's all there somewhere! I just added a little pizazz....😬
@sambyrum5276 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought my gopowersports forks were too soft. If I change the oil and space em out I can tune them just like my rc cars. Gamechanger!
@sambyrum5276 2 жыл бұрын
I really changes my rc cars. They are much faster than my mini bike. The soft preload makes my bike a little too spongy. My Losi still can’t hit top speed safely but tuning really helped up top. 60 mph rc’s can have spectacular wrecks.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I'll get to ride it today. This can be done with smaller forks too I believe. Only difference should be ml of fork oil and the spacer size. I studied a little bit and my general concensus is that everything thats done to a factory fork should be done in increments. I would try the 20wt fork oil and there is a motorcycle spring that can be swapped in as well.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@sambyrum5276 I'm going to do this to my Vintage bike too. That fork is definitely not set up for adults from the factory!
@sambyrum5276 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat not setup for adults but that’s the fun part
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@sambyrum5276 lol! Tell that to my Doodlebug.....egads man....that thing is a lot to handle! I've been thinking about adding a suspension fork and 10 inch steel wheel just to help plane out....perhaps there is such a thing as TOO small.....😬.....
@derekfox6543 2 жыл бұрын
Now you need to go jump some terraces and report back to us on the performance. Let us know what you think. I may have to try this out.
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
Lol this will be happening very soon!!
@dyllman98 4 ай бұрын
what rear shocks are you using? do you like them? Im looking for some upgraded rear shocks. Thanks!
@fatbuddycat 4 ай бұрын
Those were some decent reservoir shocks I got back in the day. It was better than stock. They added more dampening which improves traction by actively controlling the swingarm.
@dyllman98 4 ай бұрын
@@fatbuddycat yeah I’m a bigger guy and my bike did decent on the trails but could def use some more travel, thank you for the quick reply! I’ll look around
@7277AdiBoy Жыл бұрын
Where did you get those handlebars? Any links?
@fatbuddycat Жыл бұрын
Pro Taper SE Series 7/8" Standard Handlebars - XR 50/Jet Black a.co/d/9Gj6DRt
@RandomPerson-ob1hk 2 ай бұрын
What does the oil in these forks even do? There isnt a shock for the oil to flow through. And do you know if the hurricaine comes with the improved gps shock or the old one like in this video?
@fatbuddycat 2 ай бұрын
Take the shocks apart and look at how they work. It's not a hydraulic piston, suspension works with a dampening and preload. The springs control how stiff the suspension is and the oil deals with the movement (compression and rebound). Hurricane just has a front brake on the tube, same suspension as the regular Trailmaster. GPS also didn't create the Hurricane, they just like to act exclusive.
@fatbuddycat 2 ай бұрын
Worst part about Trailmaster is the frame and suspension geometry. They had issues with the gen1 (looked like a Warrior with rear suspension) frame cracking and tried to fix it with the engine mount rather than redesign the whole bike. The long shaft engine to line up the torque converter is pretty dumb too....as are the crazy cheap plastics, foot pegs and seat. Buncha crap.
@RandomPerson-ob1hk 2 ай бұрын
@@fatbuddycat yeah I know they just get the Chinaman to make everything then sell it to us but people say good things about it and I want a full suspension mini bike. From your experience since you have a ton should I get the trail master or the Coleman rsv? Or are there better options even? Doing road and trail riding and light stunts nothing crazy
@davidjessee7701 8 ай бұрын
I wish you would speak normal. It’s very distracting. Sound like the basketball coach who’s teaching math.
@fatbuddycat 8 ай бұрын
I have terrible ocd/adhd and have a hard time interacting with people, my channel isn't even monetized. I do this to help others as I simultaneously better myself with practice. I try my best not to swear or go off on my frustrations. I've considered starting another channel that is less serious so I could be more natural but chances are I will offend a lot of people who think I'm slow. 😆
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