Train Separates in Chesterton, IN!

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2 жыл бұрын

NS B09 separated between the trailing SD40-2 and the first flatcar. From the looks of it, it seems to have been caused by a low drawbar.
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@NW475 2 жыл бұрын

This was a great catch. I'm glad you weren't overreacting and screaming "OH MY GOD" on repeat and instead enjoyed the moment. (I hope you get the video reference).

@RegionRailfanners 2 жыл бұрын

I do lol. I think Layne and I were in shock. I was the guy on the other side of the tracks.

@pliosaw 2 жыл бұрын

I think I know the video reference, does it involve a certain Union Pacific train

@NW475 2 жыл бұрын

Actually the video I was referencing involves Norfolk Southern train 12R and a broken knuckle on the train, thus causing the train to split.

@cjcompton9410 10 күн бұрын

@@RegionRailfannersgreat video

@UnionPacificRailroader 9 ай бұрын

"Hey Johnny!" "Yeah?" "Are we goin' downhill? 'Cause it's real easy to pick up speed now!" "Uhh no, why?" "Look behind us..."

@trentongreen925 4 ай бұрын

What

@Canadian_RAIL_FAN 2 ай бұрын

Lol

@thomasrapp2536 6 ай бұрын

George Westinghouse strikes again, what a nice smooth E stop on the train.

@Tolono 2 жыл бұрын

Crew was on the ball here (and the camera work was great as well). I have seen pictures of wrecks where the locomotives came quickly to a stop and the rest of the train smashed into them at speed causing significant damage. They outran the train and even sounded the horn for the crossings. You can hear the panic in the horn signals. Great job to both the crew and the people filming and editing. Also hard to beat the look of NS spartan cabs with hot rolled steel.

@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын

add a K5LLA on an SD40-2 to that mix.

@freedomunrestricted 2 жыл бұрын

How are you going to outrun the train when the air pops and you are in emergency? Those units shouldn't of been loading. At best they would of been able to hold the independent in bail off and keep coasting.

@cdavid8139 Жыл бұрын

@@freedomunrestricted Totally depends on the unit and the electronics.

@freedomunrestricted Жыл бұрын

@@cdavid8139 not in north America with modern locomotives made in the last 50 years it doesn't.

@cdavid8139 Жыл бұрын

@@freedomunrestricted Agreed...for the most part. I'm not an expert on what was made when and where but if you say it is 50 years I'll go with it. However, my comment still stands. It does depend on the unit and the electronics.

@robertbrouillette6767 10 ай бұрын

This is still a good example of just how dangerous it can be around railroad tracks. Loose cars can still roll quite a ways before coming to a full stop.

@garedneck04therailfanner48 2 жыл бұрын

Someone in the comments already said this, I'm not the first one to point this out: But NS #3517 is the Burlington Northern #7065 that was involved in the 2006 Kismet train collision. It was still in operation with BNSF after the crash until they sold it in 2008 to HLCX as a lease unit. This was when BNSF was buying the BNSF unique ES44C4s. HLCX kept it in BN paint, and kept the number 7065, they only patched the BN reporting mark. In 2013, Norfolk Southern bought HLCX #7065. They completely repainted it, and renumbered it to #3517. And apparently this locomotive somehow picked up a K5LLA for a horn, unusual that an SD40-2 receive a K5LLA. I have a feeling that NS #3517 could have a curse, after what it went through since 2006.

@whiteknightcat 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the history of that unit.

@brianhebert6152 Жыл бұрын

This time, it thankfully didn't go off the rails.

@suppylarue220 6 ай бұрын

exactly what I was thinking. you took the words right out of my mouth.

@danmathers141 2 жыл бұрын

The brakes on the cars are kept off with air pressure. The pressure releases when the engines disconnect. That makes the brakes stop the cars.

@royreynolds108 2 жыл бұрын

You are thinking and describing the airbrake system for roadway vehicles. Freight train air lines are charged to 90 psi which also charges the reservoir on each car to that pressure so if the train line pressure is reduced, that difference in pressure is applied to the brake cylinder of each car in the train until changed by recharging the train line or reducing the train line pressure more thus adding to the braking force on each car.

@raygale4198 2 жыл бұрын

Not true for rail cars, Roys comment below is correct. Further to that the brakes only stay applied until the reservoir pressure is lost then the cars become free rolling one by one. That's how they are able to free shunt cars around a yard to build a train consist. In the situation shown in the video it's fairly important that some hand brakes are applied to stop the train rolling away as the air brakes come off.

@donaldschlosser6964 2 жыл бұрын

@@raygale4198 that's what the release rod does they bring the train in the yard a Carman inspects the cars releases the air then they are free rolling to switch or hump

@alvexok5523 6 ай бұрын

Trains still break more slowly and over longer distances than cars do

@bobbender2922 2 жыл бұрын

That's what happening when don't use Kadee Couplers, LOL.

@tomp8871 5 ай бұрын

Those coil cars are heavy, great job by the crew.

@abloogywoogywoo 6 ай бұрын

Look! There's the SD40-2 twins, who wanted to pull a train, but forgot about the cars.

@davidcoleman958 9 ай бұрын

Really crazy event! This railcam is awesome to watch! Chesteron is my go to railcam to watch during football games on Sunday nights.

@AtsutsA 2 жыл бұрын

OH WOW I live a mile from this intersection and had no idea this happened!!!

@bobfather99 2 жыл бұрын

Right place, right time......... :)

@RegionRailfanners 2 жыл бұрын

It was crazy!

@sanny632 2 жыл бұрын

Man I’d love a video of the repairs :)

@timosha21 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic train video! I'm a tram and I approve this video! Ding ding!!!

@carmichaeltrainproductionc9663 2 жыл бұрын

WoW This is unbelievable I wonder if the clew had to keep going to get out of Dangerous territory is there a video that show the crews came back after the cars? The other I would have thought the crew would know if they lost the cars time will only tell Excellent Video Keep up the good work I Just subscribed!!

@RegionRailfanners 2 жыл бұрын

They got out of the way, they came back pretty quick and were blocking town for about 3 hours due to repairs.

@carmichaeltrainproductionc9663 2 жыл бұрын

I figured they would Man I had of been something to be in the front row seat of all this and folding!!

@bradgriffin9892 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand how the engines didn’t go into emergency once they became disconnected. Whatever happened, everyone involved was lucky to walk away unharmed and for everything to stay out of the mud.

@carmichaeltrainproductionc9663 2 жыл бұрын

@@bradgriffin9892 My guess is that those cars just became unattached and the brakes must’ve kicked on as soon as they became on attached at this point they probably had to get out of the way again I’m just a photographer and a huge Rail fan so I’m just learning those procedures myself but regardless safety hazard!!

@jmpeak2384 2 жыл бұрын

@Brad Griffin The engines did go into emergency. The procedure is to bail off the engine brakes when the train goes into emergency to prevent too much force against the cars creating a jackknifing effect. But when you leave all the cars like that you're bailing off the only brake stopping the engines so until you realize it you're in a freeroll. But that's a loaded rolled steel train trust me they knew pretty quick they didn't have any cars behind them.

@humanbeing8338 2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious and insane! Is there any video of the engine come back for the goods???

@jimmarshall4636 2 жыл бұрын

Good thing the "PCS" was working as intended.

@epacm50 2 жыл бұрын

WOW! What a trip. The no air pressure alarm would of alert the crew. Thank God no one was injured!

@TheBeeMan1994 2 жыл бұрын

There’s no low air pressure alarm in a locomotive, the only thing close to it is the air brake that vents in the cab when air pressure is lost. The engineer can keep the emergency brake from setting on the power by “bailing” the independent

@royreynolds108 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBeeMan1994 There would be an indication from FRED that the brake pipe pressure had dropped.

@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын

Not so much of an alarm, there really is none - but there's a loud blast of air as the brakes go into emergency, and the pneumatic control valve will trip and idle the locomotive engine.

@RailFan1981 Жыл бұрын

Wow, neat catch! Right place at the right time, lol.

@fogdan 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome Catch!!!

@ellieprice3396 2 жыл бұрын

Engineer; Oops, forgot my train, better go back and get it!

@hashslingingslasher4215 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. How did I not know about this? I go to college in Chesterton, and I didn't hear about or see this, and I was right by a set of tracks.

@megadavis5377 9 ай бұрын

I can just imagine, along about 2:05 in the video, the conductor, while doing his crossword puzzle, hollers over to the engineer, "Hey Frank, what's a six-letter phrase that means ""bad mistake?""

@geoffreylee5199 Жыл бұрын

Another timely catch!

@ryanhruska6667 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, I feel like I am forgetting something. What could it be 🤔 O well.....this sandwich is delicious 😂😂

@Tegridyvs 2 жыл бұрын

Not your typical horn on a SD40-2 that’s for sure. Sounds great

@hlcx2330 2 жыл бұрын

Does that SD40 have a K5LLA? Nice capture though.

@RegionRailfanners 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed! And thanks!

@fiercetrains4052 6 ай бұрын

We’ve broken away we’ve broken away!

@PRG902 2 жыл бұрын

Ns sd40-2 2nd unit : Omg we decoupled them Ns sd40-2 lead unit : Should we leave them? Coil cars : WAIT FOR US!!!!!!! Ns sd40-2 : Maybe we should...... Coil cars : Wait!!!!!!!!! Ns sd40-2 lead : Umm.......we should couple them back then.

@PRG902 2 жыл бұрын

Momment of the seperation: 0:28

@mattkeller2466 2 жыл бұрын

You always hear about how long it takes a train to stop. Looks like it stopped pretty quickly and that was without the help of the engines trying to slow it down.

@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын

it wasn't going all that fast. Think about the physics behind it ... you have a 210 ton (420,000 lb or close to 190 metric ton) locomotive, that makes contact - steel on steel - with the rails over an area of about the size of 20cm2 or about 12 US 50 cent coins - one coin for each wheel. Try to stop that from 60mph and it's easy to see that it's going to take a while to do. It's common for a freight train travelling at 60mph to require close to a mile to stop.

@Metal9040 2 жыл бұрын

What was your initial reaction when this occurred

@RegionRailfanners 2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t know what I was seeing lol. Like it wasn’t real!

@Marcuswelby-nx2te 2 жыл бұрын

a rash under my pit

@gamingzone1122 2 жыл бұрын

Great catch👍❤

@YTPartyTonight 5 ай бұрын

Steel coils from one of the big three steel mills in the area. I was raised not far from that location. The lousy weather there--yuck--sent me off all the way to SoCal.

@aaron2573 2 жыл бұрын

Does anybody know what those passenger car/house is on the other side of the tracks?

@timothybline7900 2 жыл бұрын

just curious, how come the engines did'nt go into emergency , a good engineer would notice his train is missing

@sbmcvp4525 2 жыл бұрын

A good engineer?? I guess that "bad" engineer kept the train from running into the back of him before it finally came to a stop. Depending on weight and speed, it could roll half mile or better before it stops.

@bradgriffin9892 2 жыл бұрын

I wondered this as well. It could be they were never laced up and the crew got on and ran like they stole it.

@sbmcvp4525 2 жыл бұрын

@@bradgriffin9892 That would never happen. The engineer is actuating his engine brakes to stay away from it. At that speed it will take a bit to stop his engines because he can't use his dynamic brakes due to the "emergency." Most likely a coupler pin broke or one of those freak things that made it uncouple (slack action)

@TheBeeMan1994 2 жыл бұрын

Because the engineer can do what’s called “bailing off” the independent brake, and trust me you notice when a train separates because the emergency brake blows off inside the cab. So what he did is released the locomotive brakes so the train wouldn’t slam into the locomotives and derail

@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын

It most likely did. The engineer most likely bailed on the brakes to keep the locomotives from coming to a quick stop.

@CombsTowerProductions 2 жыл бұрын

when you're rocking and rolling down the chicago line and your head car has a low draw bar, it always spells a good time for ya

@camerondouglas7055 Жыл бұрын

Forgot to equip the coil car with a horn lol.

@joanneiler2415 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen this before. I lived there for a very long time. Doesn't surprise me at all.

@nonewherelistens1906 5 ай бұрын

Timely catch.

@zactherailfanner 2 жыл бұрын

How did I not know about this?! I would have seen it if I wasn’t at home.

@sandyp6802 9 ай бұрын

Wow!!

@OxnardLocalRailfan 2 жыл бұрын

0:37 Your going on with your day then you see that passing by your house.

@ohioandnortheastern 2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@RailfanTurner 2 жыл бұрын

Terrific catch!

@chandramohanpai2082 2 жыл бұрын

Bengals444T.@ l🤔 videographer had telepathy that cars will be seperated at that spot so lucky to catch

@RailfanTurner 2 жыл бұрын

@@chandramohanpai2082 cool! You’re Welcome!

@AmtrakTBL 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy

@hughvane 2 жыл бұрын

"I say, Festus, do you think we're travelling a little lighter than before?"

@randomtransitadventures 7 ай бұрын

most put together train by NS

@rearspeaker6364 6 ай бұрын

and no towns were polluted by this.

@randomtransitadventures 6 ай бұрын

hehe

@lunalie6938 2 жыл бұрын

"hey, why am i accelerating?- OH!"

@12groney 2 жыл бұрын

Engineer- "This engine has a lot of pep today! Must be the fuel additive!"

@vaneezaadam3023 2 жыл бұрын

That's my husband who helped and fixed that car.

@erichoekema7918 2 жыл бұрын

He loved every minute of it!

@jonathanrinda7171 2 жыл бұрын

Wow and this was caught on the Railstream camera! Just hope the next train didn’t run into it.

@KCTopDawg 2 жыл бұрын

That's crazy. Cool catch though 😎

@tomstarcevich1147 2 жыл бұрын

What happens did they come back and get it??????

@RegionRailfanners 2 жыл бұрын

They went into emergency. Eventually reconnected and went into a siding for the night.

@georgetrains6168 2 жыл бұрын

Wow can't believe that happened

@Forgottenchannels 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Railfans!!

@RegionRailfanners 2 жыл бұрын

✋🏼

@cacline72 2 жыл бұрын

"Gonna have to take 5 points off for the low coupler height."

@erichoekema7918 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. You are now a journeyman carman!

@railfink 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it usually just negative one spike for a low or faulty coupler?

@action_jackson_reactions2812 2 жыл бұрын

3517 WAS IN THE KISMIT TRAIN WRECK OF 2006. IT WAS 7065!!! IT WAS A FORMER BN UNIT THEN BECAME A BNSF UNIT. THEN IT WAS A LEASE UNIT. THEN NORFOLK SOUTHERN BOUGHT IT AND TURNED IT INTO 3517

@ohioandnortheastern 2 жыл бұрын

I dont believe you

@action_jackson_reactions2812 2 жыл бұрын

@@ohioandnortheastern well it's true

@garedneck04therailfanner48 2 жыл бұрын

@@ohioandnortheastern I researched. It's true! HLCX bought BNSF 7065 (still in BN paint) in 2008, remained #7065. Norfolk Southern bought HLCX #7065 in 2013, repainted it, and renumbered it 3517. NS 3517 is the BN 7065 involved in the Kismet train collision. And it just went through another incident, it must be an unlucky locomotive.

@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын

@@garedneck04therailfanner48 I don't believe the locomotive had anything to do with what happened. It appears the drawbar/coupler on the lead coil car was at fault.

@christopherdibble5872 2 жыл бұрын

The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954.chris

@CSX453 2 жыл бұрын

Damn!

@richardjohnson9029 2 жыл бұрын

Always remember to look both ways before crossing any Railway Track .

@NJW1973 2 жыл бұрын

Me. It happens.

@MoreEffinCowbell 2 жыл бұрын

The engineer was just dropping off a road block.

@dantomasetti7866 2 жыл бұрын

As they would say wait for me.

@sandyp6802 9 ай бұрын

how did the train conductor not see🎉 that?

@Trainos_Brainos 4 ай бұрын

Are those gwr slip coaches? (Real ones get the refrence)

@angelmalarkey7946 5 ай бұрын

Oh no, it’s a runaway train.

@john72ss 6 ай бұрын

took a long time for the e brakes to kick in.

@mr.polemikus4933 2 жыл бұрын

sure had happened few seconds before, but I wonder why driver didn’t slow down acting as "shield"

@racehemi4862 2 жыл бұрын

That sure was one to catch.

@cyhigdon3861 Ай бұрын

They couldnt feel rhe engine rev higher when rhe cars seperated? I guarntee uf I had dropped a trailer on the highway, I wouldve known about it imnediately

@Talldarkhandsom Ай бұрын

It doesn't work like that. The engines don't rev higher. when the train separates the emergency brakes automatically set. It also cuts power and sets engine brakes automatically. the rear end is linked to the head end so the engineer knows exactly what's going on at the rear via "ETD" via "HTD". The reason the engines are still moving is to get away from the train to avoid a rear end collision. these engines have a few minute delay to insure they get far enough away

@michiganrailfan2141 5 ай бұрын

I kind of wonder if the crew after stopping and realizing you were there were like "Great, right in front of some foamers."

@mccoy79productions66 Жыл бұрын

nice

@kelvintorrence5994 2 жыл бұрын

I used to work out there

@cmarano 2 жыл бұрын

When we see so many coupler/drawbar failures CAUGHT ON VIDEO I have to wonder, how many more we don't see. Can anybody point to stats for this? I'm honestly curious how frequent it is.

@cdavid8139 Жыл бұрын

There are many many many you never know about. Part of the job

@rearspeaker6364 6 ай бұрын

there are no stats for that, only assumptions.

@mattstarr8203 2 жыл бұрын

notice a huge power increase after the breakup

@gokuson6635 9 ай бұрын

Why was that dude running at the end ?

@MrGrunter0 2 жыл бұрын

Why does it seem so frequent in America for freight trains to separate on route? Here in the UK it is almost unheard of for a train to become divided.

@timl1481 2 жыл бұрын

I guess it's many factors. Firstly the tonnages involved are far higher in the US, as these trains can easily be 2+ miles long, meaning the the forces on the couplers are much greater. Secondly the much higher frequency of freight trains in America then over here in the UK increasing the chances of these incidents happening. Also much larger country, much more frequent train movements means far more people filming trains!

@royreynolds108 2 жыл бұрын

When events such as this occur, they get posted. It is just like all of the compilations of wrecks in Europe and Russia, when put together give the appearance that they happen very frequently.

@larryjanson4011 6 ай бұрын

in realty it rairly happens. one can sit board out of there mind waiting for trains to pass on some main lines. if you just want to see a accident you can die of old age first. but when corp greed make the equipment work to or beyond there limits things will happen. if is a sham to compare eourpe to America. as far more tons per mile / day here. far more trains per day here. far more cars per mile/day here. over all the railroads do a great job moving goods safely. just when it happens it makes the news, as good things do not sell headlines like a tragedy, blood or sex does.

@larryjanson4011 6 ай бұрын

@brianhebert6152 Жыл бұрын

This entire situation feels like a episode of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Just imagine the Gang is the crew onboard the locomotive, and you've got a instant plot!

@braedenhaartman8180 2 жыл бұрын

@jackrussell680 2 жыл бұрын

Could have been bad if that intersection was full of people not paying attention. See the train go by and not look for more.

@doanster 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised the crossing gates were smart enough to open at 2:21 even while the string of cars was still on the approach block.

@royreynolds108 2 жыл бұрын

The crossing signals at that crossing were reacting to the loco units that went through. The cars were slowing down.

@reaghank8602 Жыл бұрын

It's a feature built into the track circuit detection devices. They measure the change in feedback to know where in relation to the crossing the first axle that shorts the circuit is and whether it then needs to raise or lower the gates and activate the warning signals.

@KManXPressTheU 6 ай бұрын

Whoopsie! Something broke Loose!

@gjurczyc 2 жыл бұрын

Thank Goodness the cars stopped OMG the weight on them

@DetroitLove4U 2 жыл бұрын

When the initial coupled car in the manifest separates from the consist this will always open up an investigation against the whole crew - usual a suspension until investigation is complete.

@joemac3118 2 жыл бұрын

Damn knuckle broke! You can it dangling there at the end and no,there is no investigation and suspension when a knuckle brakes!!! Don't know where you heard that or even,why you made that up,but don't tell lies on here!!!😑

@whiteknightcat 2 жыл бұрын

@@joemac3118 And what exactly are you referring to as the "knuckle" you see dangling from the otherwise intact coupler?

@IowaGrandpaTrain 2 жыл бұрын

The cars clearly went into emergency but the locomotives didn’t sound like it. Talk about an “oh s**t” moment!

@Unsound_advice 2 жыл бұрын

Engineer “bailed” the brakes to get away from the rolling stock.

@ratbag359 2 жыл бұрын

You do not want the lead end to stop fast if you do you get rear ended buy the trailing end which turns into a wreck. you can hear they kept the locos under power they also override the loco brakes to prevent excessive braking and the above scenario.

@garykcs5532 Жыл бұрын

Ops didn't make that air hose hook up good enough

@qwertzu87 6 ай бұрын

а у лок разве несрабатывают также автотормоза ?????

@9donald_10douglas Жыл бұрын

How did it stop?

@9donald_10douglas 10 ай бұрын

@made-in-the80s oh cool

@9donald_10douglas 10 ай бұрын

@made-in-the80s as a steam locomotive I can confirm about this

@9donald_10douglas 10 ай бұрын

@made-in-the80s I never got used to being around diesels cause at my place I used to work at in Scotland but now it's fully diesel so I decided to work with my two steam locomotives in the US

@9donald_10douglas 10 ай бұрын

@made-in-the80s in 1959

@tylerblackwell2688 Жыл бұрын

how did the crew not notice they lost their train

@FurthermoreJack 2 жыл бұрын

Those loads are notorious for becoming detached

@FurthermoreJack 2 жыл бұрын

Once it rolls to a stop someone Breaking Bad snatches one spool of industrial aluminum

@mattstarr8203 2 жыл бұрын

inland steel to newcarlise in / coil train / Cleveland cliffs plant no# 2 new name of the mill

@robertgraham7355 2 жыл бұрын

Hey you for got some time car

@trainsplanesmore Ай бұрын

Don't you hate when that happens? 😀

@railfanningrailproductions 2 жыл бұрын

That is The B09 3517 Has Rs5t holy sh**

@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын

K5LLA, off of an SD70ACe/M-2.

@railfanningrailproductions 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@mikelowery5741 7 ай бұрын

Hey sir y’all forgot your train

@chipford9694 2 жыл бұрын

nice you would think they would notice weight loss ? to stop locos quicker. liked camera man in video at sepperation. thumbs up

@ratbag359 2 жыл бұрын

@protosheep Жыл бұрын

this is the most ridiculous thing ever, like straight out of a cartoon where the locomotive forgot their train lol

@erichoekema7918 2 жыл бұрын

An absolute junk train! B09 comes apart several times a year.

@railfanningrailproductions 2 жыл бұрын

Yep that Is the B09

@allanlester3561 2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't the driver tell?

@_PJW_ 11 ай бұрын

Gotta hand it to Elon. Those autonomous trains are awesome!