Training With a Labral Tear

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3 жыл бұрын

“The structure is related to the function. But the structure does not 100% determine the function.”
A labral tear does not necessarily mean the end of going overhead. It does mean getting more specific about where the stability is going to come from.
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@greenpigking6974 Жыл бұрын

I’m so depressed now that I have a labral tear. Lifting is what pulled me out of it years ago and now I feel like losing everything that kept me grounded

@onigiri5604 Жыл бұрын

i’m getting an mri to diagnose a possible labral tear because i started getting hip pain from squatting. i completely feel you, i really wanted to train enough to compete in a powerlifting competition. powerlifting makes me feel so strong and i’m really sad it’s come to this :( i hope we can get better soon

@greenpigking6974 Жыл бұрын

@@onigiri5604 mine is in my shoulder and it sucks. Gonna keep doing leg workout but have to be careful with squats

@onigiri5604 Жыл бұрын

@@greenpigking6974 haha the opposite! gonna focus more on bench and become a dorito LOL luckily i can still do deadlifts without pain but still devastated about my squats

@greenpigking6974 Жыл бұрын

@@onigiri5604 I wish we could swap injuries 😭

@floydamide Жыл бұрын

You can lift pretty much everything again after a proper rehab

@BurntToast422 Жыл бұрын

Scapula pushups are a great, simple exercise for shoulder stability that target the serratus anterior; the unsung hero of shoulder stability muscles.

@damonw1502 3 жыл бұрын

Love to hear something like this about hips, arthritis and labral tears

@BenNoir360 Ай бұрын

This is a great video and gives me a really positive insight about what at times feels like a hopeless situation. That you can come back from this injury. I had exactly this journey. Small SLAP tear diagnosis about 15 years ago from years of gymnastics and circus training and generally not listening to my body. I even had surgery booked but then changed my mind about it at the last minute and I’m glad that I did. I got full function back in the months and years that followed and even went back to gymnastics training at age 38. I’ve had a few flair ups over the years when I have pushed the stability and function of my shoulder beyond its capacity but what I have been able to achieve with careful programming and prehab excercises has been quite surprising. I’m in a flare up stage at the moment - probably the worst I’ve had in a while. I still have ROM but back to doing rehab with no gym due to Bursitis - from having an unstable shoulder. This video has given me confidence that I can get back to full function with a but of time and patience… So I guess to anyone who is feeling like there’s no way out, there definitely is. Just need to find the right approach. 😊

@jairzevallos8817 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Super insightful and exactly what i was looking for. Answered a lot of my questions

@DanBaker30 3 жыл бұрын

Good to see more Diane..

@funfitnessvibes 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate this conversation! I’m in that boat - labral tear but surgery not recommended at this time... (After getting it repaired several years back from a separate injury.) I was doing band exercises for a long while in addition to body weight and a mix of other fitness endeavors. The past two months I’ve found that CrossFit (while listening to my body) has strengthened by body in areas that have helped my shoulder tremendously. Thank you so much for this video!!!! 🙏 You guys are awesome!!! 💪💪

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

was it a slap tear you got repaired or anterior labrum the first time? Did they recommend not doing surgery again because you tore it previously? were willing to do surgery again if you were to continue having problems?

@commentbeast3985 Жыл бұрын

I have a labrum tear from a personal injury….doctor recommended surgery but we’re going to try prp injections first. This was a very insightful video tbh.

@TheEnjelin Жыл бұрын

Hello how is going now ? , i have done prp injections but didn't see any difference :'(

@AreYouAliveYet Ай бұрын

I combined PRP with Peptide Therapy while doing lots of physiotherapy and I’m doing were well.

@Vabloath Жыл бұрын

very helpful thanks

@user-jd8tv2og2l 8 ай бұрын

I tore my labrum about 3 years ago boxing by hyper extending a right cross dislocating it. Ever since then my shoulders stability went to shit. I decided to start wrestling my junior year which basically fucked the hell out my shoulder, on top of that I thought I was David Goggins or some thing so I boxed right after a long wrestling practice which made it even worse resulting in me tearing my left labrum, It didn’t dislocate as much as the other one so I didn’t think it was a big deal so I just kept pushing forward. My right shoulder got so bad I eventually had to get surgery which was worth it in the long run but lead me in to a deep depression because of how isolated I was not being able to actually ever compete in boxing. It’s been 5 months since the surgery on my right shoulder and I’m slowly rebuilding my arm. Today I was practicing wrestling at my local gym which lead to my left shoulder dislocating. I’m not sure if I should continue my hobbies and get another surgery when ever or get the surgery now and start the rigorous long process again.

@lucasjay1000 3 жыл бұрын

What about hip labral tear?

@stevenmathis8775 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a similar video on ac joint injuries and how to safely return to training?

@NoelCornell 3 жыл бұрын

I would love this too! I'm considering a Mumford procedure. One surgeon said do it, another said wait... But it seems inevitable. Already had two other surgeries on that to fix labrum tears hehe...

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

@@NoelCornell hey since you have been through labrum surgeries, did they tell you when is the last time limit they will repair it? like if you were to wait can you come back after a year or more and repair?

@quitodbq 2 жыл бұрын

Hip labrum tear video please!!!

@robbiecrawford4345 5 ай бұрын

Wow I have a slap 4 atm,today benched 140kgs 8 reps day one back after 10 months of rotator cuff muscle building. Floor press that is

@30latem 3 жыл бұрын

I dislocate my right shoulder on job and because of that was working, pulling with other arm that lead to another injury three months later disc protrusion L5s1 on right side.That was 3 years ago,now i lifting weights with lot of causion and less weight it's sucks but i don't mind anymore.

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

what did you fo after disolocation? when did you begin lifting weights again?

@zachscheel3784 9 ай бұрын

I wish he explained the multi joint rehabilitation exercises he alluded to instead of just the single joint, simple rotator cuff stuff!

@olitonottero7620 2 жыл бұрын

3:52 "the point here is.." (1.5 playback speed works well here)

@kevinjack5184 Жыл бұрын

Both my shoulders hurt so bad I can't sleep on my sides. I've never been able to sleep on my back.

@Chapat79 Жыл бұрын

I must do some funky tossing and turning in my sleep my shoulder has been so much better since I wear a shoulder brace in bed

@juliancouture6619 2 ай бұрын

@@Chapat79what kind of shoulder brace? If you could send a link to something similar I would appreciate it!

@alextheballer20 3 жыл бұрын

When you were talking about the pain in the front of the shoulder and the position where it kind of dumps forward, that seems like what happens whenever I try dips. I dislocated my shoulder as a teenager playing basketball and tore the labrum and subscapularis tendon. I can bench press and overhead press fine, but it seems like a lot of the really strong bench pressers are good at dips. Is there any way you could modify dips or progress to them without irritating the shoulder? Or is it not really worth it considering I can do all the other movements fine without pain?

@rohitshrestha3110 2 жыл бұрын

How many times did you dislocated ur shoulder??

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

hey so did the subscap tendon heal by itself and how long did it take before you could go back to lifting and playing basketball?

@alextheballer20 Жыл бұрын

@@HeyIntegrity yeah the subscap tendon healed with physical therapy. The only thing that still bothers me is some impingement in the front of the shoulder and I don't think the labrum will be 100% again. But it's pretty functional and I've been able to do everything with it for the past 12 years. It happened when I was 18 and I can still lift and play sports when I want to.

@alextheballer20 Жыл бұрын

@@rohitshrestha3110 the original injury was in 2010 and then I had a shoulder separation in it in 2019. So basically only 2 twice.

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

@@alextheballer20 I'm curious if you played or did weighlifting with the subscap torn before it was diagnosed. Like you tore it and just continued to exercise until you found out later. Basically that was me and that's why I think I'm in a worse condition. If you don't mind what did you do in physical therapy. I already tried before and didn't really find it too helpful besides one or two exercises.

@LukeDeGance 5 ай бұрын

So I am a senior year kicker in high school, and since fathers day of last year I have had a actabular hip labrum tear. after almost a year of pain meds even a cortizone shot to finish of my football season, i still sometimes have pain. I cant do weighted squats or deadlifts things that are good to train for kickers. would you advise getting surgery for this injury while i am young? this might not be your specialty but please let me know your opinion? the docter said it is a very slight tear and he wants to avoid surgery as much as possible, except that i want kick in college and need to know if the surgery is worth it or if i should just continue pushing through?

@taylordeboo3875 4 ай бұрын

I know it’s a late response idk what u have decided but I’m a senior too. I’m going through same shit and have been advised to get the surgery while we r young and can heal quick. The older we get the longer and more detrimental the recovery is. A labrum tear can’t heal on its own it will only statement or get worse depending how severe it is. Mine would not get better after 3 years of living with it and came to the point it was ruining my quality of life. Get the surgery.

@LukeDeGance 4 ай бұрын

@@taylordeboo3875 I’m getting it tomorrow 😂😂

@joshpope9701 Жыл бұрын

I just got the news today. MRI revealed torn labrum in left shoulder. Bench press injury 10 weeks ago where the pain never went away. Contemplating surgery but need advice

@Patriot_Plays Жыл бұрын

How r you now?

@joshpope9701 Жыл бұрын

@Antendo1 literally zero pain. Haven't attempted bench again but for the first 3 months had continuous sharp pain and couldn't sleep on my left side. No surgery, very little rehab. Not sure what happened. I just rested the nuts off it

@Patriot_Plays Жыл бұрын

@@joshpope9701 that’s good to hear. I have a posterior labral tear. I’ve had it since last January and it’s never really too painful it just pops a lot. Doctor said surgery but I really don’t know. Are there any particular exercises you did? Do you still have the tear?

@abhijeetsingh2361 Жыл бұрын

@@Patriot_Plays Hi I also have posterior labrum tear from benchpress . lot of popping , what's the treatment???

@MikeoWar 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I'd love to see a video talking about training after labram tear surgery. Alternatively, is it possible to book an online consultation with you guys? I had surgery for my labram tear (SLAP injury) almost 4 years ago and even with a lot of physiotherapy, I still peddle between mostly pain free and quite severe chronic pain. I still can't figure out what's causing the shifts.

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

What did they tell you not to do after slap tear?

@brandonhendricks1123 Жыл бұрын

Same

@marioescobedo5854 11 ай бұрын

I had a slap tear on my R shoulder in 2019. Doc said no more heavy weights. Yet here i am lifting heavier than ever. I had it immobilized for 2 weeks, on a sling, then started moving it from all angles, then i did rehab. 5 pound weights and doing exercises to strengthen the rotator cuff. in 8 months, my shoulder was good but not the same tho

@Methuselah1986 2 жыл бұрын

Hello! I have a slight slap tear and right now going through physical therapy. I know it’s the internet, so I don’t expect full answered, but I was hoping to ask: can I get back to snatching and jerk in high volume? My worry is that the answer is surgery if I want to get back there, but I’d like to check with you guys.

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

Did you really need surgery? What can you not do and what exercises can you do? I have the same thing.

@ridingronin3957 Жыл бұрын

@@HeyIntegrity Hey this is my different account. No, i did not end up going to have surgery, mine was managed through stretches and stabilisation work. It was super frustrating for like 6 months, and did a number of my strength balance, but it is absolutely fine now and does not bother me.

@HeyIntegrity Жыл бұрын

@@ridingronin3957 thanks I'm just curious if you had severe pain the scapula too. Like in the teres major muscle area. I had an injury there before and it never healed properly. My doc didn't really care about the muscle complaint I had and I wasn't really convinced the slap tear was causing it by him.

@ridingronin3957 Жыл бұрын

@@HeyIntegrity I am not a doctor, but I was told by my physio that SLAP tears are mostly caused by muscle tightness around the area and a force applied to the joint. So scap was really tight especially in the interior side of it, close to the spine. Stretching it and rolling it out every day helped my shoulder pain massively as well. Agian it was my case only, so I don't want people to follow that without consulting doctors. However, if you are not happy with your current doctor, there is always an option for second opinion elsewhere right.

@anilmarakkar8304 Жыл бұрын

But you are not saying what the real meal is???

@giorgialeksandria6665 Жыл бұрын

lady looks like Samurai.

@michaellyonsca 11 ай бұрын

haha I was looking for someone commenting on that girl's hair.

@nikhilr2761 10 ай бұрын

Get the surgery done dont avoid that it can never be rehabbed and cant live your life on modification

@rmleider Жыл бұрын

Last friday I fell on my shoulder after slipping...went to ER xray was fine, awaiting mri now in a few days. Spoke to ortho on phone who believes labrum tear. I've had occasional soreness but not terrible...worst issue is instability. I keep it mostly in a sling but very simple movements can make it feel like its going to pop out (like straightening arm and swaying gentle circles). Hard to say if stability has improved since friday...maybe slightly as in the beginning it would feel more unstable even in sling. My question: can stability get back to normal without surgery? I dont lift weights or play sports anymore now at 44 years old.

@steezy3185 9 ай бұрын

Speaking from experience. Popped out both my shoulders around 12 years old (21 now) never got them looked at so they never healed properly. Overall strength of my shoulders are amazing I bench 350 and overhead press 265. Stability is the worse. No matter how strong I get my shoulders, the stability I have behind my scapular plane is terrible. I wake up in the morning to stretch it pops. Some times if I sneeze with my arms in a certain position it pops. When it pops I’m able to pop it back in within seconds since over been going through this all my life and after a few days of soreness it’s back to “normal”. Thinking about when to get my surgery just need to plan it.

@steezy3185 9 ай бұрын

You might think that I’m rlly strong so who cares about stability. The reason is because my strength doesn’t translate to real life situations. I’ve been in multiple bar fights and almost ever time I throw out my shoulder on the first punch. Sure I’m no fighter but I know my shoulder shouldn’t be doing that and yes I’ll admit that I’m insecure about my ability to defend myself and my girlfriend, which is the main reason I want surgery.

@user-jd8tv2og2l 8 ай бұрын

@teemulehtonen5106 8 ай бұрын

Ah fuck sounds terrible. I also tore my right shoulder labrum in bench press in 2016, I managed to continue without any surgeries. And in last january I tore my left shoulder labrum with a fucking shoulder warmup movement! It was quite bad and had to take 3 months off everything, but slowly cameback and I've been able to workout without any pain for 6 months now but yesterday for some reason did some overhead tricep extensions and now my left shoulder in fucking done, I don't know if I re teared it or what. I was a swimmer back in the day so maybe that has effected my shoulder durability? Idk but fucking frustrating, I enjoy the gym lifestyle so much and can't think about life without it. Hopefully this is some minor setback and I still can train hard but smart in the future... but good luck for you!

@user-jd8tv2og2l 8 ай бұрын

@steezy3185 5 ай бұрын

Like you I have torn labrum’s in both of my shoulders and my biggest hobby is going to the gym. I can lift pretty heavy as long as I keep my form. Bench is 365 overhead press is 275 right now so regardless of my instability my form takes care of it. Luckily for me weight training is pretty static as compared to wrestling or boxing especially when it comes to the shoulders so I’ve been able to get away with not having the surgery. Trust me I understand how depressing it is not be able to enjoy the things you love because I haven’t been able to swing my arms in any sport for the past 6 years which is why the gym is what I live for. I’d say u should go for the surgery especially since your first one healed so well. You only get one body and if you’re like me and want to continue these hobbies for a while then get the surgery. Yes the time off is mentally draining but It’ll be a bittersweet moment once you reach the level you were preop except that both your shoulders are rock solid and you don’t need to worry about them anymore. These are just my thoughts.

@steezy3185 5 ай бұрын

Also now is better than later. I’ve made all my progress in the gym and knowing that I’ll have to hit the reset button twice in my life is depressing. I like to think of it as if you get it now any progress you make you get to keep for the rest of your life