Are there any others that come to mind? I can't think of many railfan musicians... usually rock stars are into cars, not trains.

​@@judgesaturn507One of The Clash's biggest songs is called "Train In Vain"

@@samanteater Also there's the band Train, but I don't think they had an album that would qualify for this show.

​@@judgesaturn507Blues would probably have some good train songs

WE DID IT!!!

With this description… I feel like I was there 😂

I apologise for taking this comment over 69 likes, but it's too good not to like.

Uncanny

CACKLING!! I'm sorry to your dad!

good lord what a stellar comment

People talk about being a good partner or lover all the time. People forget some details. One, interacting with people and being likable is a constant effort. Two, being a friend is easy. Being a good friend is an art. Three, people who are decent to people on a consistent basis are probably the most "popular" people. That's just because people won't mind being around them for long periods of time. And that's cool!

On my first day as a cameraman at a big rock gig, the director gave me two pieces of advice.... 1, never bother the acts. You hear to work, your not a fan, don't be asking them for autographs and stuff. 2. Be nice to people, no one wants to work with a dick so if your not liked you won't get rehired.

@@NeilLewis77Smart guy.

This 100%. I’ll never get tired of listening to his drumming on A Day in the Life and Rain.

I dunno, Roger Taylor and Lars Ulrich, HUGE egos.

@BillPeschel Phil didn't have a big ego. He was the only "regular guy" in the group! The rest of them were rich, private school twats, while Phil was the one trying to keep everything light and easy. The reason his music started to dominate the band was because he was having solo hits and the rest of the band wanted to have hits.

THANK YOU! Ringo is one of the best. Many brilliant drummers cannot play some of the beats he played in The Beatles, at least not for a long time. Drummers who know their stuff have nothing but respect for him. Also, he is not only the most expensive studio drummer because he was one of the Fab 4, but mainly because of his skill.

Let me introduce you to one DON HENLEY! (Hope I don’t get copyright claimed for typing his name!)

Gear!

" I hung it up on me wall!"

We call them chips.

"Who's the moptop with the big schnozz?" LOL!

The Dune concept album cited contains the guitar line that would be the hook for MF Doom’s Rap Snitches .

Another thing stands out to me from Get Back. When Ringo DOES get involved, that's it. Everyone listens.

@@Adamdidit that struck me as being due to Ringo being almost like 'the kid' in the relationship, and the grown-ups not wanting to upset him with their shouting. In fact, that documentary showcases a family dynamic among the four musicians, something like: John - Dad (working away at his own projects and popping in occasionally to give an opinion) Paul - Mum (wanting things his way and trying to 'run' the 'family') George - teenage son (stroppy) Ringo - younger son (wanting everyone to stop shouting and get along)

@@PedroBenolielBonito I can't see why you went that way with it but I think you've got it backwards. He was more of the fun older brother of them all. And when he did get serious, they fell in line. Whether it be flatly ending an argument where a producer tried fo foce them to do some dumb show or stopping Lyndsey Michael Hogg in his tracks while he was trying to pursue one of his many avenues against Yoko that eventually turned into the narrative we all know.

@@Adamdidit Fun older brother, sure, but the core trio (now two senior songwriters and one struggling but blossoming songwriter) all knew from the start that they had a certain advantage and seniority over Ringo, and Ringo himself knew that when he joined. One of the myriad of character dynamics that made The Beatles so special.

Probably the reason he said (paraphrasing) "Sgt Pepper is a classic, but I did learn to play chess while making it"

That's probably for the best, no one needs to bring that to mind

Andrew Tate style Ringo?

Like old Ringo, but with brown hair rather than grey

He had the most astounding mullet in the late 80's

Middle-aged Ringo was the transitional phase before he discovered Microsoft Paint.

Mike Love seems very happy to be Mike Love.

​@@DemiglitchThe only person who wants to be Mike Love is Mike Love.

@@Demiglitch as are most narcissistic sociopaths.

Reminds me of the line in The Wedding Singer: “Growing up, I used to idolize guys like the Fonz and Vinny Barbarino because they got a lot of chicks. Do you know what happened to the Fonz and Vinny Barbarino?… Their shows got canceled because no one wants to see a 50 year old guy hitting on chicks.” Apparently Mike Love didn’t get the memo.

@@littlekingtrashmouth9219 “I am very much a ladies man.”

It's the peace and love and the hair dye.

And he spends his days jamming with friends. Not a bad existence for an octogenarian!

@@SnowyNightFlyer It works for Willie Nelson.

And looks amazing for someone who survived alcoholism, drugs and chain smoking

He's largely vegetarian. That certainly helps.

That makes me so happy to see that Mike Love is at the bottom of this heartless sea...DROWNING

Thank god the carpenters still have a 3. Calling occupants is a fucking kickass song.

Glad to see Passage and Be Here Now at the top. Those two had the potential to be saved and have some genuinely great songs.

Truly, Summer in Paradise is the bottom of the barrel. Surprising nobody.

@@AugAug989I hate calling that album a “trainwreckord” because Karen and Richard were ambitious as fuck…and it actually worked really well in places. It’s also come to my attention that today is the 45th anniversary of Evita debuting. IYKYK.

Surprised he was never on Fraggle rock lol match made in heaven 😂

​@@jmann6130 Because Fraggle Rock didn't have guest stars

@@DaleyKreations really could have sworn they had guest voice actors

​@@jmann6130 The new seasons have had multiple guest voice actors, but the original run was pretty insular.

"im warning you! With peace and love!!"

@@tonywords6713 😂

So the Simpsons episode wasn't making that up!

Ringo got a choice here though!

And it's better than Mardi Gras. Obviously because Stu Cook is a much worse singer than Ringo.

At least in that scenario we would've had the rest of the Beatles as well and maybe something good could've come out of it

That’s my favorite train wreckord episode. Take it like a friend stays in rotation for me lol

Ouch!

Thomas the tank engine is a national treasure

@@Thomasmemoryscentral - The Simpsons used to be a national treasure, but now it's such a shell of its former self. It's become the pop culture it used to satirize (albeit with really heartfelt, emotionally resonant stories behind the satire). Now, Lisa idolizes Elon fucking Musk of all people - someone who Lisa in the early seasons would rightfully despise as a hateful ignorant exploitative billionaire bastard.

I used to think we beat the Americans by having Ringo on TTTE... then I learned the American version was narrated by George Carlin.

Those of us who had Thomas on VHS and those cassette tape books got the best of both worlds: several episodes narrated by Ringo, and others by Carlin.

@@Eric_Hunt194 We had Ringo here too, for the first season. Carlin didn't take over until season 2.

It's probably because this album is more of a "meh" in quality. The music sounds good, with the only objectively bad thing about it is Ringo's vocals. But even then, it's not that bad when you compare him to other truly bad singers out there.

I don’t want him to feel bad. I want him to try again next year.

I thought that 'Wings' song at 7:35 is pretty good. TERRIBLE decision in giving it that title. But the song is kinda great.

​@@Demiglitch Problem was, _Ringo the 4th_ was his last straw as a viable solo artist, and his alcoholism at the time certainly didn't help. 1992's _Time Takes Time_ was a solid critical comeback, but I think its commercial disappointment (to the point of being out of print, but you can find it on KZfaq easily) convinced Ringo for good that he should live out the rest of his days as the drummer who joyfully brings everyone together, with the occasional album here and there if enough material justifies it.

@@muhammadrifqi7308Tbh, I don’t think he’s a bad singer at all. He sounds a bit like Tears For Fears, but with a little more mediocrity.

We need to make Six Degrees of Tony Levin a thing.

All the Beatles biopics are about John and Paul, but I’d love to see one focused on George or Ringo

The best parts of the Get Back documentary are when it's just Ringo and George. They have such a warm dynamic and you can see George really lights up and gets more enthusiastic.

@@ButlerWho I couldn't make it past the part where they begrudgingly let Yoko Ono, uh, I wouldn't call it "sing" so much as "shriek like a banshee".

​@@louisduarte8763 Not to defend her, as I get not liking Yoko for how her treatment of Julian and all, but I can't understand people fixating so hard on anything Yoko did in the Get Back documentary. Mostly because she kinda did fuck all. She was, overall, ridiculously unobtrusive in that documentary. It just feels like a weird hate boner. I mean, the whole band was fucking around constantly in spite of the time limits, singing through their teeth an' shit. She wails into the microphone like once, maybe twice, during the doc? Nobody is even shown being "begrudging" about it. Not saying that's an accurate portrait of events; it was obviously edited to hell and back, but you're real melodramatic if that seriously put you off from watching the rest of the doc.

Was he? I mean, he definitely was during the early, teeny bopper era of Beatles, when he was just a handsome bass player behind two total teenage idols. But when the sixties really kicked off, he was the one most beloved by the spiritual, new age hippie crowd. He recorded his sitar in reverse and basically introduced the world to obnoxious amounts of reverb. I mean he was the one whose music was the best to drop acid to...

You know it's bad when he doesn't even bring up his discography.

I never knew this existed until now. I knew he had done well in the Seventies until diminishing returns set in, but NO IDEA he went moody disco.

People didn't forget about it, they never knew it existed! 😂

...or at least those like me who remember it for real reasons forgive it's existence. It was contracted and he tried, but a lot was missing from before. Of it's time and place and at least not 100 percent bad - I've heard a lot worse (looking at my crate-bought copy of The Beach Boys' LA-Light Album...maybe ELP's Love Beach, too).

Bad music typically gets forgotten pretty easily. Unless it's legendarily bad (a la Cut the Crap by The Clash).

Duncan Sheik would be fascinating since he also wrote the hit musical Spring Awakening.

Todd would probably compare him to Bobby McFerrin as guys who were way more successful after they notched their one hit.

@@arwentheelf02 And a musical version of AMERICAN PSYCHO

@@FMAkers-jq2khyeah, Duncan Sheik has written a lot for Broadway.

True, but there are plenty of very good drummers who toil away in obscurity. If Starr wasn't tied to the Beatles he'd have been a happy and successful musician in the Liverpudlian music scene, but would he have had an independent musical stardom? Probably not.

@@cmbeadle2228 How many rock drummers can you name who would have enjoyed any independent musical stardom without first being in a highly successful band? Even Phil Collins was first "that guy from Genesis." As a rock drummer, you have to be tied to a successful band in order for the public to take any note of your work.

There are thousands of great drummers. There's only one Beatles Drummer

@@jamesmeow3039 Well... there's Pete. We don't talk about Pete.

@thechaimug exactly my point. A great drummer who wasn't in the band long. Ringo won the lottery, Pete didn't. Talent wasn't what seperated their success

God, that is depressing.

@@landheaux6547 To be fair, it scared him to sobriety and he hasn't had a drink in 35 years.

@@subtlebluntduality5997 A positive ending to I'm sure a harrowing experience.

​@@subtlebluntduality5997how every man should react to getting blackout drunk and beating their wife

Kind of sums up the kind of rock star Ringo is. He won't do anything too crazy at first but when he gets absolutely wasted he severely crosses the line

isn't crown royal also band drama?

I would say that Zingalamaduni counts for Ego Stroking (Speech) and band drama too. And Crash could double as a sophomore slump.

Two the Hard Way could also fit Personal Drama better.

The irony of The Human League's "Crash" album was it yielded their biggest hit- which is still played today.

​@@valoregal Crown Royal seemed more like failed trend-riding to me, even though DMC's non-involvement with the album was an elephant-in-the-room problem with it

DID YOU SAY “FUNSTYLE”????

​@@sonofaspyder3000YOU'RE BEING A PEÑIS COLADA THAT IS

@@sonofaspyder3000 MY COOK STYLE DETERMINES MY DEATH STYLE

It sounds like he wrote it black out drunk with Harry Nilsson and it got left in Ringo's jacuzzi or something

Plus, he only wrote two of them... one of which is a bonafide classic amongst children. It's not exactly like he had high aspirations as a songwriter or was prolific. Flying and What Goes on don't count.

Yer Baby!

its the only legacy of his that matters in my book

if he has a hat, you can call him 'hat man'

you gotta remember that on computer you have to call them something, so he has

I am incredibly intrigued by this. Is it a reference to something? An inside joke? Something he actually did? This is a gateway to an unknown world, and I crave answers.

The face that doesn't even have a face

it's way too late for me to comprehend this comment, i'll try again tomorrow

​@@AliceFlynnSo basically: Backlash: Disco sucks. Backlash to the backlash: No, Disco is awesome, and relevant to marginalized communities, so what you tryin' to say, huh? Huh? Todd: No, Disco DOES suck, and for all the countercultural value it had, it was very much a mainstream genre populated by mediocre White artists.

There it is, again, that funny feeling

Never heard the word "trenchant" before.

I don't really get nu metal, at least not enough to tell the difference between the good and the bad. What is some god nu metal? What sets it apart from the bad? What *made* Results May Vary and Take a Look in the Mirror huge flops, beyond changing trends?

Yeah I'd love to see a review on that one. I was a teenager when that came out and it still amazes me to look back on nu-metal and how it went from being this commercial juggernaut to nonentity literally overnight.

Rmv is a bad album, but I will always stand up for that WHO cover. One of the best covers of the 2000s.

​@@royalninja2823 Nu metal as a genre has way more creativity and variety than people give it credit for. There's a lot of slap bass, jam sessions, and weird left-field influences. I'm a diehard metalhead but the genre has a conformity issue, and nu metal's status as the rejected outcast of the genre was a blessing for weirdo bands to get a platform as long as they stayed authentic. You can honestly explain most popular nu metal bands in such a way that makes it clear how odd they actually are. Even Limp Bizkit is odd: A jazz drummer and bassist, the DJ from House of Pain (yes, really), an eccentric performance artist who happens to make some truly memorable wonky yet heavy riffs, all fronted by an average white dude rapping about being a bit of a loser. Good nu metal is filled with personality, bad nu metal feels an inauthentic cash grab with no heart or passion. Compare two big songs that both came out in 1999: "Eyeless" by Slipknot and "From This Day" by Machine Head. It becomes obvious which song is from a new band with fresh ideas giving it their all and which song is a lazy attempt to cash into the new hot trend. In the case of Limp Bizkit, I was never too fond of them but their sound worked because of Fred's endearing loser relatability backed by a highly competent band. Results May Vary threw all of that away, as Wes was no longer in the band and Fred had shifted to mopey singing about miserable topics. They actively erased what made them who they were. And for Korn, their music depended so much on being raw and emotionally vulnerable that diminishing returns were inevitable once they became superstars. They couldn't successfully pivot to something else, so they descended into mediocrity before making some infamously poorly-received experiments.

It was the opposite for me. I am only a casual LB fan at best, but I really dig Results May Vary. I agree that Behind Blue Eyes was pretty cringe, but the album had some really solid tracks like Underneath The Gun and Down Another Day that I still listen to today, and the then-new guitarist did a great job imo. That said, I know it alienated a lot of long-time fans and I would happily take a Trainwreckords review of that album just to hear Todd's talk about it.

Yeah, I was kind of vibing with it too. The strained vocals, while undoubtedly a product of Ringo's limited range, come off as a drunk guy screaming his self-loathing and shame. Having an upbeat disco beat overshadow a lot of his singing could also be seen as his alcoholism and the vacuous party life overshadowing his self-reflection.

@@libRteedudeProto-Swimming Pools or Proto-I Took a Pill in Ibiza?

Correct. I do like this one. I was mildly disappointed that it wasn't mentioned how often Ringo chooses or writes songs that are semi or fully biographical. Or that his mood and beyond average bad singing on Ringo the 4th were due to having become completely blitzed 90% of the time with extreme alcoholism by '77. Evidenced by what I consider his best album, "Time Takes Time" which demonstrates what Ringo is capable of when he's completely sober.

Zayn left before One Direction broke up.

That first Zayn album still slaps too, need to catch up on his other releases.

Or when Kelly Rowland had her solo album out before Beyonce, she had a couple songs and then Beyonce released her solo debut and everyone forgot who Kelly Rowland was overnight.

And in fact, this is still better then Mardi Gras. Todd was right.

Ringo is a better drummer than Stu, Ringo is a better singer than Stu and hell, Ringo is a better bassist than Stu too.

@@Demiglitchto be fair basically anyone is mariah carey compared to stu

I mean, Japan always loves the weird, so I get why hahaha

It does sound like something you'd say if you were trying to advertise a city pop album.

Unmistakably *r r r r r i n g o*

Ringo had a breakdown not long after this too, there's some pictures of it in this video. He became suicidal and shaved his head and eyebrows as a plea for attention.

@@ChromeDestiny Didn't he shave his head after a all-night drinking session with John Bonham?

I mean Ringo around this time had a MAJOR drinking problem and sometime in the 80's he went sober and has been ever since

While I'd agree with you, I think it's interesting you picked the three Trainwreckords that seem to fall victim to "lacking authenticity." Will Smith's album failed because no one was able to take him as a serious rapper. He had too much of a goofy, squeaky-clean image. MC Hammer's album failed because no one was able to take him as a serious rapper. He had too much of a fun, squeaky-clean image. Katy Perry's album failed because she was perceived a shallow pop princess, no one cared to hear her opinions on the world. And in all three cases, they were probably unfair. These albums failed because they weren't what we wanted, and yet at the same time, we always seem to criticize artists that never take risks or change things up.

Yes❤

Indeed.

Amen. But imagine an alternate universe where Ringo was a disco superstar and Barry White was Mr. Conductor. That's the vibe I get from this album.

hell yes.

His best work post Beatles was narrating Thomas the Tank Engine I said what I said

Ah, so it's an instructional tape cassette. Now things are beginning to make sense.

gravure is known mostly for like cheap porn, so thats the joke there, glossed over that

​@@dextrodemonand cheap, flashy adverts too! (Doubly self-deprecating? Wouldn't put it past Ringo.)

There’s a great alternate version of Strawberry Fields Forever on Beatles Anthology with an amazing extended drum solo. I’ve changed people’s opinion of Ringo by playing it for them

Ringo was a great drummer who added a lot to their sound. He wrote unique drum patterns that made The Beatles the band they were.

There's a lot of studio footage of Ringo just sitting around looking bored, but I generally agree. It was a weird stroke of genius that John wanted the band to play on everything, despite it seeming counterintuitive with how individual the songwriting became. It really made everyone able to adapt to a lot of more experimental ideas and help the sound in the weirder ideas be a lot more grounded and polished, unlike a lot of albums of the time where the experimentation seems trite or kinda one-take. To be able to adapt to that and fit in flawlessly like a glove is way, way more difficult that it would seem for a percussionist. And frankly no one would ever say it, but although Paul really blossomed into an excellent bassist on the last few albums, Ringo was a better drummer than the other three were guitarists.

Every time I get down on Ringo, I throw on Rain and shut myself up.

Per Mark Lewisohn, Ringo is literally in the earliest photo of any Liverpool rock band playing anywhere (The Eddie Clayton Skiffle Group). I don’t think Ringo was ever not the hottest rock drummer in the region, at least until other bands started to follow in The Beatles’ footsteps.

She said she said and rain are his finest work imo

The Lupin III theme - a tune by the most talented musician by the name of Ohno.

Yeah, I actually quite like it. Sounds like off-brand Talking Heads, way before Talking Heads even started actively putting their disco and soul influences front and centre

Glad I wasn't the only one that kinda liked it, wish they didn't try to drown Ringo's voice with everythng else.

Same!

Same here honestly

Foreshadowing, perhaps?

A handful? More like every single episode

We all remember his most famous line, "I'm banishing you to the shadow realm."

Oh how the turntables

​@@ninjabluefyre3815That was Michael Angelis.

I think one of the reasons these comparisons make sense when you hear them is because you realize that despite what you might think, society changes slowly. We always move in cycles. So any particular trend, style, person in some decade will always be around in another, maybe not readily apparent. One thing I noticed from this video is Ringo nailed that "hipster" look, with the glasses, the baseball cap, etc. I saw that and said "wow, that could just be him today, he'd fit right in."

Hey, sending you love. 💓 I'm sorry for your loss.

Not the same, but I had to bury my cat of 11 years a few days ago and Todd's work has been my comfort watch/listen; so this has been balm for my soul.

I think john was in How I Won The war in 68 or 67?

@@royalcrumble2384 Oh you're right. For some reason I thought that came out later. Although that was John's only acting gig, and Ringo had a few more not-appearing-as-Ringo roles.

He also played the Pope in a movie called Lizstomania, which I can only describe as a musical biopic on crack. It’s absolutely ridiculous, full of phalluses, and manages to be antisemitic despite the antagonist being Richard Wagner. The Ringo pope is probably the most normal thing about it.

Um, they were all in two major movies already? And one movie doesn't make a "film career."

there's an alternate universe where, after the Beatles, Ringo became a very in-demand session drummer

I was actually a little excited to hear a he did a disco album because drummers love disco. Dave Grohl has said repeatedly that he was playing disco beats in Nirvana's Nevermind album. And there's some pretty good beats in Ringo's 4th too.

Gotta disagree on the "no frontman" business. His personality made him the archetype for the "fun alternative voice" that leavens a band's repertoire; especially a band that's huge, whose every utterance is portentous with expectations. Even after the Beatles broke up, he did pretty well in that "light comedy" role for a good while. His drumming is iconic, and will always be there; and its sly musicality evoked the great fun musician he's always been.

Given how famous being in the Beatles made him, I don't think Ringo had any realistic choice but to be the front man (and, I mean, it worked for a while, as Todd notes). Becoming a supporting player in another band would have been an implicit statement that he couldn't make it on his own.

Post Abbey Road but before Anthology.

What about Free As A Bird, Real Love and soon to be Now And Then

​@@evanorsomething909I don't know if that would count - as John had long been dead when those songs were recorded and released.

@@pervertedalchemist9944 They were built off of John’s demo recordings.

and it's dog sh*t

it is weird, a lot of older ladies i know were huge Ringo fans back in the 60s and 70s, i have no idea what exactly made him more popular than the other members with the women of America

It should also be noted that from that same album, the track "Sandworms" forms the bassline of "The Mad Scientist" by Large Professor.

Dave Matthews was an arranger for James Brown for years. His group, The Grodeck Whipperjenny was the band that played on James Brown's only "psychedelic funk" album "Sho is Funky Down Here." I think JB was trying to move into Temptations territory but thankfully this was the sole experiment.

The beat to "Rapp Snitch Knishes" actually has its own name - it's called "Coffin Nails." Also, RIP MF DOOM

THAT’S WHERE THAT SAMPLE IS FROM?!

*the monkeys finger curls*

"holy fucking fuck, Sally, that body of yours is absurd"

I think we're safe there. "Sneakin Sally" is a good song and Adam Levine covering a good song would be far too much effort for the mastermind behind "Girls Like You."

Well, now it's gonna be Morgan Wallen.

It's an awesome album because it was fun to listen and apparently fun to make. And most of all at no point during "Ringo" did Mr. Starkey try to sing like Barry White. Yikes.

It is the best post-Beatles album.

You know what they say: the great ones make it look easy. Ever seen Hendrix at Monterey? He plays behind his back and while doing backward somersaults, while chewing gum not in time with his playing. The only thing that's hard for him is getting the guitar to break into pieces at the end. Pesky Fender Stratocasters, all like well made and stuff.

Agreed. A drummer I work with, a brilliant prog elder of 67, ranks Ringo highest of all his influences.

People think he's mediocre because he doesn't do the stuff that impresses non drummers. To other drummers he's God. He only messed up something like 2 takes in the Beatles whole career.

@@FakemormonCatwallada like that time he had blisters. How unprofessional!

Oh man: "Man of the Woods" has got to be one of the next ones, considering that he waited 5 years with Paula by Robin Thicke and Witness by Katy Perry!

@@PrinzPassionsfruchtand with *NYSNC getting back together, this would be the perfect time for it. One sign of a solo artist’s career ending is launching a comeback with the band that made them big in the first place (see Chris Cornell, RIP, reuniting SoundGarden after his SCREAM album failed). So this would the perfect time to do that MOTW TrainWreckords.

Eminem and Green Day's legacy were secure by that point and they could afford to phone it in. The other two would be interesting, though.

@@samanteater Todd has covered albums from artist's that still had some chart success post flop album choice he covers but he has stated he does this side series to at least cover the artist's or band's last mainstream success. Katy Perry has barely charted anything worthy since 2017 from the flop of Witness and i dont believe Justin Timberlake charted any successful song since Say Something with Chris Stapleton from the 2018 Man Of The Woods album

Fleatwood Mac - Time

Yeah, I was thinking "Did Jerry Harrison write this?"

Palmer's Sneaking Sally was incredible backed by Little Feat.

@@georgewilliams4258 is there any other way to be backed by Little Feat?

Oddly enough, the Bee Gees were huge on disco at the time Ringo's album was released.

@@pervertedalchemist9944plus Arif Mardin the producer of Ringo the 4th had worked with the Bee Gees on their earliest disco hits (Jive Talkin, Nights On Broadway).

The bee gees' first big song after moving from australia was actually sold to radio by telling stations it was by "a british band that starts with a B". It sounds super similar to paperback writer.

Not to mention the apparently awful _Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band_ movie they did with Peter Frampton, the soundtrack of which would make for a great Trainwreckords episode in and of itself.

Now I'm imagining a weird reality where the Beatles never broke up and instead became a disco band in the mid-late 70s

It should probably be covered but the bashing of it Todd would definitely do would probably hurt my soul because I honestly really like it and I think it really didn't deserve the hate it got

​@@YoItsEvanAdamsIf it's any consolation, Todd himself is a huge Genesis fan.

@@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 the funny thing is genesis fans are actually usually the ones who hate the album the most

Amazing, how Genesis saw two distinct frontmen, who themselves became successful solo artists alongside the band’s transition from prog rock to pop rock, and yet now, the world has come to accept that their collective musical peak was the era of _Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound,_ and _The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway._

@@YoItsEvanAdams I just hope that he gives Congo a pass, a genuine bop of a song, whose largest sin is mixing down the cool part at the end way early

If I wrote a character half as genius, id hold on to it as well

Adapt this premise into a satire novel or something lol

Y'know, the sad part is that there's official characters on that show that manage to out-bonkers that concept. (God, Pahkitew was a weird season)

Let him cook

Source?

What? No!!! My life is a lie!!!

That is not an actual human being named Ringo Starr, that's a human being named Richard Starkey

@@deadsirius3531 Now that's just crazy talk.

SEX OVER THE PHONE! is still a banger from late era Village People

OMG they _what!?_ That's hilariously bad, what the hell 😂 I would love to see Todd do this too

Checked the album cover.... wow... also, the entire album is less than half an hour long.

Oh wow. Now I'm realizing there are probably almost as many good acts ruined by an attempt to drop disco as pick it up, since the fad died even harder and faster than it had started.

Any album called Renaissance, Changes or Metamorphosis is bound to be the group's last album

The Happy Mondays don't even qualify for One Hit Wonderland in the US, let alone Trainwreckords. ;)

Don’t tease me

KISS is interesting because they got, like, 3 or 4 back-to-back albums that could be said to be the buildup for the failure of "The Elder". So it's kinda like the meme with the dominos growing bigger and bigger.

KISS was also mentioned on the Motley Crue "Generation Swine" Trainwreckords. Specifically, how a lot of bands would let their drummer write and record a song. It worked for KISS. It didn't work for Motley (but it did give us "Brandon.")

My friend saw him a few weeks ago as well and they were raaaaaaaving. Ringo still has that charm, and sounds about 20 years younger than he is!

@@theproducers1967 I totally agree! He’s all over the stage joking with everyone, it’s a lot of fun

care to explain your theory about Todd‘s moniker? I don‘f get it.

@@slyasleep T odd I n T he S hadows It spells tits.

George did most of the heavy lifting on the Octopus Garden music. It is a brilliant track however.

​@@slyasleepTodd In The Shadows = T.I.T.S.

@@Cpayne30 yeah. Octopus’s Garden is is great because of the chord progression, which was entirely George.

Artists like The Silver Connection and Rick Dees would like a word. Plenty of artists who got a disco hit who could barely sing in tune.

​@@collectibleasmrRick Dees had a hit making fun of disco. His shitty singing fit the shtick.

well, he was probably rather drunk, and surrounded by enablers. if you had everyone around you telling you whatever you did was great without any real critical feedback, you'd put out some crap while thinking you're doing awesome too.

​@@collectibleasmrBut the Silver Connection were attractive women, and Rick Dees was a comedy act in on the joke, even if it really wasn't much of a joke. Ringo wasn't particularly attractive and wasn't a radio funny man.

Same reason why veteran R&B acts like The Whispers, Skyy, Starpoint and The O'Jays did new jack swing projects in the late 80's - it was about riding the current wave.

I can see how even the good disco songs would get annoying being so omnipresent on the radio. Disco was made for dance clubs and if you're not a dancer it can get quite annoying hearing dance music in the background all of the time. I felt the same way when the "in da club" music was all over the radio in the late 2000s/2010s (that's a big reason I became a fan of Todd!). There's plenty of great dance songs I could get down to at a party but have no interest in hearing otherwise.

@@Thedjbj2 And the late 2000s was the beginning of the end for the monoculture. You could go online and find stuff that wasn’t what was hot on the radio at the moment. In the 70s there was no easily accessed place to hide.

The disco that really did suck was all the completely white, mainstream dreck the record companies offloaded onto the public in the late 70s. Saturday Night Fever was a prime offender.

Is that really such a hot take? Honestly it seems to me that nobody was defending disco as a genre until relatively recently. Even as recently as the 90's nostalgia for it was widely mocked by most of the mainstream.

@@troodon1096 It’s a hot take coming from a critic. Almost all of them default to racist/sexist/homophobe, and highlight the classics while ignoring the raft of gimmicky artless reaches for relevance that got cranked out at the time.

What was your role on the tour?

Ah yes, the Grammy-nominated Trilogy. The first two discs are typical Sinatra stuff, but the Future disc needs to be heard to be believed.

That would be a hilarious album to cover, but would it be a good candidate for a trainwreckord? Don't think Frank could do anything to wreck his career at that point.

@@TheAndradeCS I think it would be like American Life or St. Anger. Nothing would destroyed their careers but it definitely marked the end of something. This was the last concept album by the man who's considered its creator. After that he only released two albums of standards (one with Quincy Jones right after Thriller and it did nothing) and then, of course, the duets albums.

Wait, Frank Sinatra made a sci-fi concept album?

Uranus Is Heaven, Sounds like Boney M songs 😆

I'm gonna need my pepper spray...

Absolutely, he's been Peter Gabriel's main bassist since the late 70's.

@@ChromeDestiny If memory serves, being Peter Gabriel's bassist is what got him into King Crimson, since he and Robert Fripp met each other while working on Gabriel's first three albums.

He's the only guy who played on the records of Yes, Pink Floyd and King Crimson. The only thing lacking is a session work for Genesis. (Still, he's in Gabriel's band...)

Tony Levin kicks serious ass

Love that guy! Favorite bassist of all time. Btw, on one of his solo albums, he sings all the songs. I don't recommend it.