Woke up this morning and it hit me (again) that very few KZfaqrs makes me in as good mood as you do. Thanks for sharing some time with us on your adventures, much appreciated!
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, that's so kind of you! 🙌🤩
@rodrigocappato42074 ай бұрын
100% agreed! Greetings from Västerås.
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Cheers from Göteborg!
@DextersLab932 ай бұрын
Kul att se flera i Västerås som är intresserade av bushcraft!
@CherokeeTwilight4 ай бұрын
I found a wartime M40 about a year ago, only missing the kuksa. $30 USD. I’m still smiling on that one.
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Quite the catch!
@garryruggiero35592 ай бұрын
Thanks for all you do Garry , Raleigh NC U.S.A.
@RedswedeOutdoors2 ай бұрын
My pleasure Garry!
@Indiskret14 ай бұрын
I was fortunate enough to get a brand new and original (stamped) M44 aluminium canister for free from a friend which bought up surplus stuff when Sweden was disarming 15-20 years ago or when that was. I never had any plans to use it until you showed the complete kit in a video, then I started searching and last year found an almost new M44 burner kit with the plastic bottle and all on Tradera for under $20. Will try out the complete M44 this summer!
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Hot damn, you just became the envy of the Internet, that really was a bargain. Cheers!
@Indiskret14 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors A complete and original kit (aluminium) sold for 399SEK on Tradera in February, so there is still hope for the poor! 😄 I posted a link, but that got erased, so this is a re-post. Easily found via Google anyway.
@thomasmusso11474 ай бұрын
I 'hate' you ... 😠. Only kidding .. jealously, the green-eyed monster momentarily took control 😁. Lucky fellow you are. Enjoy it 👍😊.
@thomasmusso11474 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors Yep.
@CherokeeTwilight4 ай бұрын
Always look forward to your content. Actually the PFM 40 even though it’s stainless is a copy of the aluminum M44 and not the stainless M40.
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
You're right, it's probably the name that confuses me. Cheers!
@paulkennedy50214 ай бұрын
I agree with you, but I think you went easy on the M44 by putting it against the 28. IMHO the M44’s real competitor, based on size and weight is the 27. A 27 will beat it in every single area. The M44 is the equivalent of the Trophy Wife. Expensive and nice to own but good for nothing but showing off. Big surprise was that the mini won the boil test! That windshield must be doing something right! 😉
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
I haven't tried the T27 yet, but if it's anything like the T25 it would be a humiliating victory. About the boil test, there wasn't even a breeze that day so no wind shield was required. I think it's more about the new burners being much better than the old. Cheers Paul!
@chado_outdoors4 ай бұрын
There is one thing I'd like to mention. If you look at your packability section, you could look at it like this: if you use a comparable packaging size of the m44 for the mini, then you have space to add food, coffee, collapsible cup, utensils, small bottle of spirits, etc. in this way, the Trangia Mini may actually win that category as well. Thanks for the video, Red!!
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks Chad! In total the m44 isn't the better choice for slimming pack size even with all the junk I can fit inside, that's true. I was more looking on what can live in each kit always for a 'grab and go' so to speak. Cheers!
@chado_outdoors4 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors yessir, I totally understand. And I was on eBay last night looking yet again for an m40/44 to buy, when it dawned on me that I have the Esbit 5-Piece Trekking Cookset that can run solid/gel fuels or has an included alcohol burner, or can even use wood fire. Volume wise (just a bit less), and versatility wise, it's basically the modern m40/44. So, now I look for some other new piece of kit to buy 😂 cheers, my friend!
@thomasmusso11474 ай бұрын
Yes, my thoughts too. What one forgets is that 'stuff' stored inside the cook set and not used at the time, has to be kept elsewhere .. sometimes lying about nilly-willy, whereas, if kept in a dedicated pouch / container, just that required at any point in time is removed, leaving the other where it should be. Definition of 'Order' .. 'When there is a place for everything and everything is in it's place .. always!' Sorry, I'm being facetious .. but just had to add that 😁.
@markkeeler99954 ай бұрын
Entertaining as always. The first time I used my mini I couldn't believe how much a slight breeze affected it. I've now got a decent aluminium windshield. But I have a question, can 2 mini pots nest with each other? Can 2 minis be combined? I.E. carry 2 minis. One for making coffee whilst the other is cooking.
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark. I don't think that two Mini pots can nest together that way, and sadly not the Micro either. I tend to bring a T 27 kettle that fits nicely at the potstand. Cheers!
@razifmahathir24373 күн бұрын
Great comparison. Have had my eye on the M44 for a while but they seem as rare as rocking horse teeth, especially out here in Malaysia, where it's almost impossible to get anything Trangia. I normally go to Trangia direct for my stuff, although I haven't even seen any on the vintage section of Trangia's website either. Keep up the great videos. ATVB
@RedswedeOutdoors2 күн бұрын
To the best of my knowledge Trangia never sold the M40 or M44 to anyone else than the Swedish army, and those that are in circulation are from army surplus. With that said, I've been wrong before... Cheers!
@razifmahathir24372 күн бұрын
Thanks for the heads up on the M44. Looks like I'll have to make do with my Micro, Mini, 27 Duosol and 25 then 😂.I love my Trangias ❤
@DextersLab932 ай бұрын
Great video as always. Jag hade turen att hitta ett genuint kronmärkt M44 för cirka 40kr på loppis, och likaså hittade jag också Trangia Minin på loppis för liknande pris och har använt båda, och älskar båda. Rent generellt håller jag med! För enklare turer där man bara behöver laga lite mat och där vikten behövs hållas nere är Trangia Mini verkligen perfekt! Däremot tycker jag att M44an funkar mycket bättre långsiktigt om man ska på en längre utflyckt. En sak som kan vara värt att nämna gällande versatility med den är att om man vänder vindskyddet på M44an uppochned så går det även att använda som en makeshift wood stove. Med tanke på hur mycket som går att packa i M44an så känns den även relativt kompakt, men väldigt tung i jämförelse med minin. Jag håller dock med att stekpannan på minin är mycket smidigare, formen på M44an är lite jobbigt att inte få saker att brännas i. Men det krävs nog träning, har inte testat så många olika recept än. Det beror helt enkelt på, det är riktigt svårt att välja en favorit mellan dom två tycker jag! Dom är båda utmärkta kokkärl (för mitt syfte iallafall). Fortsätt med videosen! Riktigt bra och informativt
@RedswedeOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Det var två riktigt bra loppisfynd, du har verkligen fått valuta för pengarna. Det hade varit spännande att se hur M40/M44 hade sett ut om Trangia hade designat dem idag... Ha det gott!
@DextersLab932 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors Jo skoja inte! Otroligt tacksam för pengarna jag sparade på dom! Verkligen, hade varit riktigt kul med en modern variant av gamla köken! Glad midsommar!
@OJ4HIRE4 ай бұрын
Breaking News: KZfaqr Redswede outdoors deported from Sweden after scavenging showdown of Trangia T28 and M44 where the M44 lost in a landslide. Officials will not comment further on the ousting of Redswede or what country he was deported to 😂
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
LOL, the choice was between a permanent vacation in Antarctica or face a mob with torches and pitchforks... Awesome dig there man. Cheers!
@thomasmusso11474 ай бұрын
😁 .. Rumour has it that he is building a Long Boat in an abandoned WW2 Submarine Pen and is planning a Vengeful return, armed with the latest Trangia Micro Set ..
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
@thomasmusso1147 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Indiskret14 ай бұрын
Was on my way to bed, but I must watch this first! Comments will have to be for tomorrow. 😊
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Sorry, didn't mean to wreck your sleep hours. Catch you tomorrow!
@Indiskret14 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors Nonsense, it was my pleasure! Off to bed now and I hope you get to sleep well too!
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ericj.w.ruijssenaars34214 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison! Got the Trangia 28 mini and the 27, the PFM40 and an original Swedish army M40 I found in a thriftstore here in the Netherlands for under €20, with a burner, fuel bottle and postwar windshield. An absolute steal! Save that one as the collectable it is and use the PFM40 as an user. That little Trangia mini is such a joy to use and so compact. Outdoor greetings from the Netherlands 🤠 🇳🇱
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thank you Eric. Even if you paid €20 for each of the individual kits it would have been a good deal so you absolutely crushed it. Cheers!
@sarahs7844 ай бұрын
I had a m44 about ten years ago when they were cheap to buy (£20 ish) and I gave it to a friend and kept the mini as it was so much lighter to carry. You can fit a small fold-a-cup in the mini too, Mattias Eriksson had one in a video and I borrowed his idea. Cheers for the interesting experiment 🙂
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thank you Sarah. The fold-a-cup isn't a bad idea. Cheers!
@onseki17744 ай бұрын
When I first got into camp cooking I got an austrian 3piece mess kit with a swedish M44 windscreen/trangia combo (the only parts that are cheap!). I had to modify the windscreen to fit the austrian cookware, total cost was like $35. I like that the pot is spacious for a lot of food and the windscreen is excellent. The total package is so large and oblong for how little it actually does though. I bought a T25 later and with two bowls and a kettle it's basically smaller and easier to pack. I like mess kits for car camping or lending to a friend who may be cooking but more likely just needs serving dishes. I think it's a valuable tool but mostly novelty!
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
I agree that T25 is more 'packable'. It's a bit heavier but brings so much more to the table, no pun intended. Cheers!
@JoonesAdventuresMC4 ай бұрын
Torbjörn, torbjörn, torbjörn, now you are out on deep, deep, deep water. You know I’m a big fan of M40, I would even say that the M44 is a replica of the M40. I totally agree with you though, the M40/44 is really over hyped. Interesting compression, even though it’s a little unfair. The M40 should be compared with the 27 or even the 25, cause of the size of the pots. And both the 25 and 27 are way superior to the M40. The largest problem to compare the Mini and the M40 is that it is like comparing your left shoe with your right shoe. Even though they serve the same purpose you need both to be pleased As a little curiosa the M40PF is not a replica of the stainless M40, it is a stainless replica of the aluminium M44.
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
It's always a problem when comparing cook sets that is so different in design an target groups but you could say that this showdown is a bit tounge in cheek and will probably not change the mind of anyone that has a strong opinion on either of the kits. As for comparing with the T25, my benchmark, if any set wins that showdown I will buy it. Cheers!
@JoonesAdventuresMC4 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors Totally agree, If only having one Stove the 25 is the winner. And I would say that if another manufacturer would produce a better stove than the 25 it would probably look very much like the 25🤔
@jamesharvey444 ай бұрын
Good comparison, I have the Mini, Micro, and the PFM40 and they are both good kits. More often I will take the Mini just because of the packing size, but the M40 goes to larger events that I am cooking for two or more people. I don't think there is a wrong choice here. The Micro on the other hand is a boil only kit that is for hiking with bag meals.
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
When I first saw the Micro I had some hope that the cup could nest in the Mini but sadly it won't. That would have been an awesome kit for lightweight hikes. Cheers James!
@WaynesGoneWild4 ай бұрын
Another good video! Oddly here in Australia the current price for a Pathfinder stainless steel version of the M44 (PFM40) is $85AUS, and the cheapest price for the Trangia Mini is $86AUS. I bought a PFM40 last year, it has been great, it did not come with a burner, but who doesn't have a few of them spare. 😁
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
I agree, that's an odd pricing. I might also have the odd burner laying around in the mancave. Cheers Wayne!
@travisp324 ай бұрын
I like that you did this video. I have both kits. Yes they both have their place. I tend to prefer the mini over the m44. It looks like you have the worlds smallest tea pot. Lol. Hi from Idaho!!
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks Travis. The kettle is a Trangia 27, I tend to take it nowdays on solohikes since it's smaller and lighter than my old one. Cheers!
@jimf19644 ай бұрын
I got the cook set from Austrian army surplus for next to nothing. Then I came across the stand, with the army trangia, and bottle for pretty cheap from a finish company. I love it, but yeah, more for just boilimg….and it didn’t take long at all to boil with the bigger trangia
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Good find Jim, and it sound like you have the right tool for the job. About boiling time it's really not a bother for me outdoors but since most comparisons online use that as a category I included i in the video. For myself my stand on the matter is that if I'm in a hurry outdoors I'm doing something wrong. Cheers!
@jimf19644 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors Yeah I know eh? Those boil times are useful to know how much power you have, and sometimes the efficiency, but who cares if it takes 2 min or 4? I’ve even seen people brag about how fast their stove will cool too. But it’s all about finding something that fits your needs. My stove is great for certain times, like an over nighter, but I love my firebox stoves (the 4.5 inch, now in titanium, and the nano in steel), and this fit more conventional pots and pans. I picked that cook set up from a limited run at Varusteleka in Finland
@Magoo6524 ай бұрын
A good & honest comparison. I will only add that the inner bowl of a GSI NForm Nesting bowls set fits in the T28 Mini complete with neoprene sleeve & sip it lid. I trimmed that pot support burner holder. I have since replaced the Trangia burner & the useless windscreen with a Vargo Decagon alcohol stove & a Vargo folding mini windscreen. Thank you for sharing 👍
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip Sven. Cheers!
@thomasmusso11474 ай бұрын
👍👍👍 Good Morning Red .. Perhaps the M44 is showing it's age in this comparison. I love my Mini 28 .. but one should always show respect for one's Elders 😏. I would very much like to have a M44 Set. Do I need it? No! (but then, that doesn't count, does it? 😁). Also, my budget (and space) is a factor .. although 🤔 .. For those out there who are interested (as a worth-while compromise), I have added (amongst other) to the Mini 28, a 'Quechua MH 100 1.1 L Stainless Steel 1-Person Camping Cookset' from my Decathlon Store in Basel, Switzerland for the Dollar equivalent of $19.99. It comes with a Plastic Bowl and Folding Plastic Spoon, which I have removed for use elsewhere. The Mini 28 in it's Bag, fits snugly into the Quechua Pot .. no rattling whatsoever. For those who wish it upgrade their Mini 28 to something larger, this option is worth consideration. Obviously any suitable pot will do .. but I liked the Quechua Stainless Steel Pot with its locking Lid and Strainer .. and the price. Always a pleasure watching your Posts. I tried the 'Popeyes and Hats' in my Trangia 28 Mini. With a topping of Bacon, Sliced Tomato, Onion and Chilli Sauce .. yum 😋. Thanks for sharing, my Friend, and until next time .. take care ..
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Tommy, you're such a wealth of knowledge, tips and ideas that I wish you had made a video about this. All the details you've come up with to make a good kit better. Take notes people. Take care my friend!
@thomasmusso11474 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors Flattery, flattery 🙄 .. always appreciated, thanks 😁. Video's of my attempts / learning curve? Maybe one day. My Media Gear is currently very basic and probably destined to remain so. One viewer once asked me for some detail on a cook set that I had concocted and commented on and supplied her Email Address .. which I duly obliged with photos thereof.
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Basic camera gear works well enough, the first three years I made my videos on a smartphone that's more than ten years old by now and a tripod for 15 euro. I still use it for my b-shots to this day. Long story short, it's your knowledge that is important your camera is not. I guess you're covered Tommy.
@thomasmusso11473 ай бұрын
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@SamIAm_The_Motorcycle_Man3 ай бұрын
Found my m44 at goodwill (thrift store) 9 usd just gotta get a burner for it should be about 30 usd for bout 40 total unless i find a burner on the cheap
@RedswedeOutdoors3 ай бұрын
If you aren't dead set on having the original burner I would say that the modern "civilian" Trangia would be a better alternative. Burns longer and adds the benefit of the simmer ring. Cheers Sam!
@SamIAm_The_Motorcycle_Man3 ай бұрын
@@RedswedeOutdoors thank you for the advice! I think you're right that seems the all around better option.
@RedswedeOutdoors3 ай бұрын
@@SamIAm_The_Motorcycle_Man You're most welcome Sam!
@P.E.J.4 ай бұрын
minin alla dagar i veckan!!
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Får nog hålla med där. Ha det!
@Iljadir4 ай бұрын
Hilsninger fra Norge. Jeg undrer på en ting, når det kommer til snuskburken din, lakkerer du den, eventuelt hvilken lakk bruker du? Hilsen fra Kent fra Broderlandet😊
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Hej Kent! Jag har inte lackat min m44, de färgerna var från början, så jag har tyvärr inga tips på eldfast lack. Cheers!
@jamesmcgee24474 ай бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻 23:15
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks James! Cheers
@oxxnarrdflame88654 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video. I’m thinking the T27 would be a more interesting comparison. For the M44 fanboys, it is a great set, I have the M44 and PMF40. But get real on price and availability. The Ferrari and Maserati are awesome vehicles but hard to come by and prohibitively expensive (like the M40/44) where a Kia is affordable plentiful and ether will get me to the pub.😊
@RedswedeOutdoors4 ай бұрын
I like the analogy with the cars but I would claim that the m44 isn't a Ferrari but rather a Beetle from the 50's. Cheers!