I have the same Ledmark set--and I have never had any problem with it being tippy or unstable. As a matter of fact, it is handy being able to just lift off the windscreen and snuff out the stove without burning your hand. One other advantage of this design is that you can use a heavier frypan and just set it on top of the windscreen. With a heavier pan it works great!

Greetings from Denmark. Love your videos. This is not a Trangia knock off. It’s a Swedish special forces one man kitchen, arctic issue. (Jäeger kök) knock off. The original uses the military burner. It’s a super system that is even more compact than the Trangia 27. It is not only good for boiling water. With a simmer ring on the burner, it is very good for making soups and stews.

Very useful and informative video. A few points to note though - Trangia burners have a cotton lining between the inner brass tube and the case, this seems to make the unit more efficient. A lot of the knock-offs don't include this. I have a knock off burner made of aluminium, and until I sat there one evening and poked LOTS cotton wool into the chamber via the jets and packed it out properly, it never really worked as well as a genuine Trangia. After the mod it's every bit as good. Secondly, if you buy a genuine Trangia cook set, you won't be dissapointed with the build quality - you get what you pay for. Their customer services department is excellent and they'll happily sell you a replacement O ring (or lid, regulator lid etc), if you ask them. Finally, I can't seem to find any real information about the "why's and wherefores" - for example, why are these burners the size they are - even the knock-offs are pretty much the same size. Why are they round? Would a different shape (square for example) be more efficient. But yeah, great video! Greetings from the UK!

Freezer bag omelettes are the best thing for final morning camp breakfast.

Very good video You are one of the best for information and presentation

As an outdoor swede I grew up with Trangia, Primus and Optimus. I don't like the alcohol burner, but there are other burners available. The newer Trangias comes with a suitable hole in the stove for the hose, but that is an easy mod. Most times I use gas (isobutane/propane bottles) but sometimes I use synthetic petrol (the same as for the mower) in my Optimus Nova burner. Nice to be able to switch off and the fingers don't taste horrible anymore.

A very good video thoroughly explaining how the Trangia style stove works. I recommend anyone new to these type of stoves to watch it.

An interesting comparison with associated tips .. thanks. I have the little Trangia 28 Mini which serves me just fine. Some additions such as extra bowls from a '70's Evernew Camping Bowl Set and other odds and sods, give me a really neat little one-man kit .. two for when a Lady is present 😊. I have read other forums with explanations that 'running the stove dry' can result in eventual cracking damage to it. I don't run my stove dry and thus 'err' on using more rather than less fuel. A little disposable syringe takes care of transferring unused fuel back to wherever. Also, I do not transport it 'wet'. Leakage .. it 'will' find a way .. eventually. A tip to reduce the possibility of something nasty happening when having to refuel during mid-cooking. I always have a wet cloth on hand during cooking .. multitude of uses .. handling hot cookware, protecting surfaces, cleaning sticky hands, etc. Also .. prior to refuelling, a wet cloth placed over the now-extinguished stove ensures that the flame is out and cools the stove sufficiently for safe handling and refuelling. Chinese .. for various reasons, I try, wherever possible, to avoid purchasing from them .. not easy in this day and age .. but directly .. no. Take care ..

Excellent review, very informative, thank you and greetings from one Thomas to another from south wales uk 🙂

I’ve recommended these for a long time. They’re very similar to the Trangia but really are more similar to the Optimus 77. When the swede military kits started going over $30 I started recommending these. I typically recommend adding a Trangia burner or at least the simmer ring. Also the strap can be replaced with Arno straps available on Amazon. The 24” works. Adding the Trangia simmer ring solves your problem with extinguishing the stove.

The metal disc that holds the alcohol stove can be manipulated in and out so as to make storage room for a small Trangia kettle. I use a cross stand on the burner and it’s the perfect height to use the kettle without snuffing out the flame.

I bought a Trangia 27 in a little outdoor store in the southwest of the UK in 1984. Can't remember how much I paid for it, but it has been all over the world with me and it has never let me down. It doesn't really have anything on it that can fail. I have been immersion heating food with it since your first immersion heating video. Great advice. PS - replacement O rings for both commercial and military Trangia stove are available for cheap on ebay, it is worth getting spares.

Grew up with these in the UK as a Scout and also my schoolfriends took theirs when we first went camping without parental supervision in the Lake District. I have never wanted to buy one as I find the whole setup a bit bulky, plus I don't like aluminium cookware. Also they have always been pretty pricey, I seem to recall my schoolfriend paid more than the equivalent of $50, back in the late 80s. However the burner alone is excellent value for money - we can pick them up now online for £15 including delivery, that's under 20 bucks. The only ''knockoffs'' I think are worth buying are the Titanium Chinese ones for those who count their grams & ounces, but they are actually more expensive than the real Swedish made brass burners. Use mine inside a folding twig stove which is a perfect potstand and windshield in one, plus I can burn twigs in it to conserve fuel. I don't bother with those expensive fuel bottles, I find recycling dental mouthwash bottles much better as they are flat so easier to pack, and the lid seals.

Trangia also has a fuel canister burner just got it with my 25 non stick kit and got the plastic disc strainer cutting board

Nice video, you make a lot of sense in your southern way, I like the accent you sound like you are signing all the time. I like you tips and inputs very resourceful!

At first i had the same set as you have and thought it burned, well, good. Got a Trangia burner yesterday and compared these two, the Trangia was 3 times better in boiling time but used the most fuel. The vindshield are very good, so that with a Trangia burner is a good combination.

I have tried many stove the trangia is the preferred one l fill mine to 3/4 full of methylated spirits with water mix burn for more half an hour at times depending on heat cheers. But a nice kit

Awesome cookset and ideas! I’ll try the barbecue paint For preheating the stove on cold weather and such I usually have a tiny squirt bottle and pour a little alcohol on the outter platform of the burner so it heats up faster. You can also simply use any thing metal can lid under the burner with a little alcohol, light the preheater first and if the flame doesn’t transfer to the main burner when the bottom one runs out, just light the one on top. Cheerio

I have been using a Trangia stove for a long time. And yes I have fried many trout on a single fill up of fuel, it is possible . Cheers

I have a very similar cook set, It is a Kookabura brand one, labeled designed in Australia, made in China. The burner that came with it wan not very good but I all ready had some spare Trangia burners handy so I used one of them in the cook set. The only problem I fount was that there was not enough room in the pot holder to effectively use the full range of the snuffer/flame regulator inside the holder. On the flip side, my test showed that this cook set could boil half a litre (500ml) in less than 5 mins when the air temp was cool or not at all when the air temp was above 30℃. With a normal Trangia burner, the recommended amount of water to be added to the alcohol is about 15%. With my cook set I had to use about 25%, maybe 30% when it was over 30℃ otherwise the fuel seemed to evaporate very fast and burn and flare out with a few minutes. When using the frying pan/lid/plate to fry up some meat, it was fine, I just had to turn it a bit more often.

Hi Blackie, I subscribed to you a while ago and making my way through your back catalogue when I came across this pearl. Your knock-off stove set is almost identical to my 1958 military surplus Trangia Ranger. It uses the same larger Trangia as in the M40 and M44 but to all intent and purposes is the same as yours. Having the larger burner means no simmer ring which sometimes makes cooking a “fast” experience, however I’m getting used to it now and a bit more confidence to boot. Have a search online for the Trangia Ranger and you will see the odd one showing on the internet. Thanks for the great videos and keep posting. All the best, Broadlander

That was a wonderful video. Thanks

I just finally subscribed to your channel. Thanks for the review. I have found that the old saying is usually true, “you get what you pay for”. I have several of the Trangia model 27‘s and absolutely love them. I found the best way to time the fuel is to pour in 1 ounce of alcohol and light it and time it. Then I repeat process with two ounces, Light it, time it until it goes out. Naturally I do it while heating a meal or water for a cup of tea, no sense in wasting alcohol! Gives you a fair idea of fuel consumption/ time rate.

just bought one thanks to you! keep on the great work mate!

I’ve been making Bree or clarified butter because you don’t have to keep your butter 🧈 in a refrigerator. My stoves all have to high of heat and burn every I started using my Transient 27 to cook it down with it burns all the fuel in about 15 minutes but if you have the sniffer cap opened 2/3 of the way open it takes a few minutes longer to bring it to a boil but it will keep it boiling for over an hour it takes around 30 minutes to cook down a pound of butter to fill a pint jar and I can do 2 pounds and still have about 1/3 of the fuel I started with. If you don’t have to boil water in 5 minutes or less you can cook a little bit longer and you don’t have to burn everything and believe it or not here are other things to cook besides ramen nodes. Another thing I do is I have a round pot ring from a old gas stove that fits on the top of the transen stove and the knock off you’re showing the wind screen is tapered and it you don’t use the pots that come with the set they just drop down to the tapered sides and snuffed out the 🔥 fire

Not a Trangia knock off but an Optimus 77 or it's military equivalent. I was given an Optimus 77 in the mid 70's, direct from Sweden, and it was my mountaineering/canoeing stove for the next decade and a half until I got a Trangia for two of us to use. And the rest is history. And yes you can bake in it!!

Some of those military kits came with Svea stoves (push on cap) instead of Trangia (thread on cap). Both work great and so do the Chinese knock offs I've tried.

A foil-covered cork trivet under the lower windscreen and slightly larger diameter will reduce heat loss to the supporting surface and protect tables from scortching

the burner doesnt get hot until the last 1-2 min off burning ;-) if you fill it (1 cm off the top) it will burn for about 35 min.

Thanks Blackie keep us posted on how the trangia knock off works out for you. I've been eye balling the trangia but am not sure how good they are ! ATB Sam Adler

Very nice set up it looks like. I never seen one before. I do have a knock off stove or burner. But the set is very cool

Can't find it on Amazon.

Momma just put in amazon jail, now this! Guess I'll have to ask my daughter to order it 🤣 good stuff my friend 🤠

I have a trangia 27 ul storm cooker. Very good kit. Use it if i do things. But also have bcb crusader2 set can use any fuel with this fro. Wood to andy spirit. Not to bulky either. And kelly kettle scout, bit bulky but does the job in hand. Hate to disapoint you, that is not a tragia unit. But made in sweden for the military goes with an m44 system.

Great Video Blackie, Ive been looking to add a trangia to my kit for a while, think I might go for a surplus one, should be no problem getting one here in the UK

Most of these Trangia knockoff burners are 4.22675 oz (125ml.) in volume and is the same as the consumer Trangia burner. Not sure about military burner volume and will assume it burns longer at around 40 min but I know it has a slight higher BTU output.

Good video, thanks for sharing, God bless !

It is possible that the alternating burner hole size on the clones is simply to bypass patent legalities and nothing to do with operation.

Blackie can you tell me where I can get a copper bracelet like the one your wearing. I really like it. Thanks !

If you took that cheaper one to a drillpress and put holes on the lower ledge you basically have an evernew which is a better spirit stove. just saying. more holes more flame better heat output.

For cookware, I firmly believe that "Hard-Anodised Aluminum" is the best 'compromise' in respect of price, durability, performance, and weight.

I was lucky enough to have picked up one of those sets a few years back.

Good info.. been looking at alcohol stoves

when i got one of those military ones, the first time i used it, the jests didnt work... well, under inspection post use i found that some one put the lid on when it was too hot and melted the rubber into the jets, so i used a needle to clean out the clogged jets to make it usable again. something to keep in mind, always inspect your milsurp items before field use.

I had one of those cheap Chinese stoves similar to that one, it lasted one outing and the seam cracked and started leaking alcohol.

Hey brother, do you have a link for this stove cook set??

Ah well thats the story of my life,,, A day late and a dollar short. all sold out on Amazon and they don't know when or if it will be back in stock... But on Ebay there's this Trekmate Lightweight Anodized Aluminum Camping Alcohol Cook Set With Carry Strap Listed for charity.... This type of cooker must be popular cause every place is selling out of them

Blackie I have a similar kit that was made to burn tabs instead of burner. It is military surplus. Otherwise it looks the same as yours

I have the 27 and the knock off both are good

wow, it's only 14.99 on amazon? that's a great deal to play around and learn

14 left on amazon as of 5 minutes ago, just ordered one to play with. i have trangias but always wanted to try the optimus versions but the prices for the vintage ones are pretty crazy when they turn up for sale...

Blackie, are you still managing to use this kit, and did you ever try baking? Just curious as I've been considering getting one of these for cooking Bear Creek bagged soups and chili

Some military burners have trangia, some have 3 crowns, there is another but I cant think what it is at the mo

Hey nice video.......if you see that set again on Amazon send me a note so I can get one... I been looking.... what did you search for or how did you find it.... thanks

Look for "Ledmark Ind. Trekmate Lightweight Anodized Aluminum" BUT the distributor is listed as NEW... Caution.

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Ranger stove in Swedish jägarkök and i think Optimus is behind that.

I love these cheap stove sets. But i found using Sterno fuel cans better in general. Sterno can burn for Hours longer. For backpacking i do find sterno cans better. Longer fuel. Easier to carry extra if needed. No waste of fuel. But i do love alcohol stoves too. As for how long do they burn.... Usually about 40 minutes or so from my experiences.

good deal

You have a slight problem with your theory on burn times for the Trangia burner. Burn times vary with difference in volume, as in, 1/2 of the original volume will not give you the same burn time as the first halve. I can't explain all the scientific specifics but Hiram Cook did a whole video on the subject. If you want to know everything there is to know about alcohol stoves, watch Hiram's videos. Nobody on KZfaq does more experimenting with them than he does. Also, wicking material in the walls of Chinese Trangia burner are basically non-existent, which in turn renders them far less efficient. Please don't take this as negativity as we are all here to learn. I've learned a lot from you over the years Blackie. My WC Blackbird (I tried to get an original for a long time, and finally settled for a Master Woodsman, another awesome WC knife) and my kuhkri are my all time favorite blades. I turned in to this video for the knockoff review which taught me that this kit was not for me. I just can't bring myself to do flimsy. EDIT - Let me count the ways and reasons I hate Spell check ; 1 - Above I wrote Hiram Cook Spell check wrote Biden Cook, WTF? 2 - I wrote "watch Hiram's videos" Spell check wrote - "watch Butane videos" So who are these moron spell check web designers that think they know more about what I am writing than I do. Go pound sand Google!

Evening Blackie. Why dont you buy a 2nd hand trangia set? Instead of a new one, You cant break them

I bought a German version of this about a week before you posted this video. I was really pleased to see that you liked it. I just got a chance to play around with it today for the first time and now have a question about the alcohol stove itself, as I know it is not a good idea to store the alcohol inside the stove itself... I have around half a stove of methyl ated spirits left after boiling water to heat up my lunch. What should I do with it? Do I need to pour this off into a fuel bottle or will it be okay to leave it for a week or so until I go camping?

Great video Blackie. How does that Knock off kit compare to the one that I had at the gathering last week? Is the Metal as thick? Thanks for sharing, Atb, John

@ everyone Those of you who may have this already, have yall had issues with thermal runaway with this set?

I use the Sigg tourist set in combination with a Svea 123. For over a dozen years it's not let me down. I see some similarities in this set, it looks solid. Do you prefer the trangia burner to the Svea?

If that is aluminum i would not be eating out of it. I live in a budget and getting sick is not my option

With trangia stove it is very hot. Its own stove is weak, but save fuel.

okay, so you run completely out of fuel what can you do? well... A can of Sterno fits or one of the wax Sterno knock offs will work and if worse comes to worse you can put a liner of Aluminum foil in the reservoir (NOT RECOMMENDED) and put in a nisbit tab, and go with that. Trangia sells a butain burner that fits the stove. A hole must be drilled in the side of the wind screen to pass the tube through.

great review!!! but the kit is unsafe, aluminium!!! tatonka makes a with stainless steel pots.

Great review, but I do think that boosting the Chinese economy takes away from our own.I would rather pay more get an assurance that will last verses a throw away

This cookset is a copy of Swiss Meta50, not Trangia 25 or 27.

You gave 15 dollars for this when a real Trangia costs only double? Over here in Sweden you can get a standard Trangia-stove for around 25 dollars. The stove you bought is a military stove here and called "jägarkök" (hunter/ranger-stove). Used in the military after the old M44 was taken out of service.

It doesn't seem to be offer, anymore.

6 hours

Paint on the bottom,doesn’t sound too good.

Trangia also has a fuel canister burner just got it with my 25 non stick kit and got the plastic disc strainer cutting board