'Trans Activists Want Us To Accept LIES' | Kevin O'Sullivan x Helen Joyce

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16 күн бұрын

Kevin O'Sullivan says everyone should be able to make their own choices about what kind of life they live, but he draws the line at being asked to state "a biological lie that a person born a male can become female, that's when I draw the line".
Joining Kevin is author Helen Joyce says using language clearly is important for writing rules clearly.
The Education Secretary has rejected the suggestion that new sex education guidance for schools will create a “big silence” around the conversation on gender.
The draft guidance, published on Thursday, states that schools should not teach about the concept of gender identity.
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@janpetersen7440 14 күн бұрын

I'm just tired of hearing about trans in general.

@chernobylcoleslaw6698 14 күн бұрын

❤

@ggavin9934 14 күн бұрын

AND about 8 billion others less the .000001% from the western world.

@JoBrew 14 күн бұрын

For a 'minority' group, they make a lot of noise!

@Skygrey2943 14 күн бұрын

@@JoBrewOr the right wing press makes a lot of noise about them.

@FiredUpFeminist 13 күн бұрын

@janpeterson7440 Keep boys out of school girls’ locker rooms; don’t allow men to use women’s bathrooms and changing rooms; keep men out of women’s sports; and don’t allow male criminals to serve time in women’s prisons. After the safety, security, privacy, and basic rights of half the world’s population is deemed important, then the trans dialogue will be debated less. Until then, expect hell to be raised.

@TwistedTiara 14 күн бұрын

I refuse to be complicit in anyone's fantasy, I live in the real world.

@TheGazza636 14 күн бұрын

well said

@AminJones 14 күн бұрын

I miss vagina; the barista told me that she kept the baby which means she really wants me it's just that she also wants the open relationship she cheated on me and expected me to have.

@AminJones 14 күн бұрын

There's three genders in India.

@ONYX-365 14 күн бұрын

*Humouring people isn't being nice to them* It's basically saying I don't care enough about you to disagree (to your face).

@AutomaticDuck300 12 күн бұрын

It’s not fantasy. It’s a subconscious rejection of self due to trauma and abandonment in most cases. And it’s a neurological difference in other cases. Or it’s simply liking to dress up.

@sgb6476 14 күн бұрын

Being nice is why we've ended up in this mess

@jd23494 14 күн бұрын

Yep that's a fact.

@LTYAJSIEIEJGRYAJHSKWHE726 14 күн бұрын

Spot on.

@elizabethmiles8953 14 күн бұрын

100% agree, we all need to stand our ground and maybe be nice to ‘real women’ who have been around for a while…….

@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 4 күн бұрын

Comment of the century. Hugely overlooked but very simple and accurate insight.🏆

@Des-ie3nh 14 күн бұрын

Tolerance allows this nonsense to continue!!! It's time to forget about upsetting their feelings... NO MORE LIES!!!

@MrTudwud 14 күн бұрын

"Tolerance" = "Capitulation/Surrender". That's why this Country is in the sh^^ it's in today.

@akinwale_p 14 күн бұрын

Least bait ai

@hudsonbear5038 12 күн бұрын

NOT Tolerance if you are almost forced/pushed in to accepting it....

@Attmay 12 күн бұрын

Then push back.

@Attmay 12 күн бұрын

Tolerance of degeneracy is intolerance of normalcy.

@user-dp6yd6py6l 14 күн бұрын

JK ROWLING Is a real Woman She knows What a Woman Is

@user-bz4sy3gj4o 14 күн бұрын

He's not helping women by calling men 'she' or 'woman'....

@CurtRowlett 14 күн бұрын

Helen Joyce is a voice of sanity in the dark wilderness that is trans ideology.

@thelamington8195 14 күн бұрын

Helen is a LEGEND ❣️❣️

@joycegibbs5267 14 күн бұрын

she is so brave, the abuse & hate she has faced 🥺

@deelondon1336 14 күн бұрын

Stop calling them she and her ,,, they are men , that’s it !!!

@islalewis70 14 күн бұрын

Trans women are not women hence the word trans!!!!!!

@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 14 күн бұрын

They shouldn't be called women at all, because 1. They're a subcategory of men, not women and 2. It makes the men themselves and plenty of other idiots are think that they actually are women.

@jd23494 14 күн бұрын

Trans in the LBGQT back in day the "T" stood for TRANSVESTITE. The lobby activists changed it up. They're men who have a fetish in wearing women's clothes. End off. AGP exits and sadly the likes of Kevin buys into it, and gives every transvestites he calls a she a s e x u a l thrill!

@user-bz4sy3gj4o 14 күн бұрын

they should not attach a word woman to men at all

@FiredUpFeminist 14 күн бұрын

I say “men in dresses.”

@nicholaswright3801 14 күн бұрын

Trans identifying men

@BlueSteel331 14 күн бұрын

Personally I won't be forced to accept anything I don't agree with, and neither should anyone else.

@kathleenfederl5121 14 күн бұрын

Agreed

@joycegibbs5267 14 күн бұрын

Labour are going to sign it into law you know !

@catherinerobilliard7662 14 күн бұрын

Helen Joyce wipes the floor with men who think they’re her intellectual equal, and it’s a beautiful sight to see

@spector969 14 күн бұрын

I really find Kevin's position a bit weird, he's like _"Yeah, I'll call transwomen she/her"_ but he also admonishes politicians for "dancing around" whether a trans woman is a woman or not... sorry, Kev, but this isn't consistent. If you want politicians to call male people men, then you should lead by example...

@jd23494 14 күн бұрын

Basically talking shite!

@ONYX-365 14 күн бұрын

*Humouring people isn't being nice to them* It's basically saying I don't care enough about you to disagree (to your face).

@AellaMaude-oy9qn 14 күн бұрын

Words matter. "Trans" & "Women" do not belong next to each other in a sentence.

@Attmay 12 күн бұрын

This is whyhate speech laws don't go far enough if this is not a crime under them.

@sgb6476 14 күн бұрын

Everyone needs to stop the pronouns or this will never end!

@sudenims5235 14 күн бұрын

People pleasing (being nice to appease someone’s fantasy when they know it’s lies) is toxic.

@stevetodd7030 14 күн бұрын

I will not accept this nonsense. If someone wants to live a certain way, fine, as long as it does not effect me, but like Kevin, I will not be told that science and nature are wrong.

@noregretcoyote1808 14 күн бұрын

Does he ever shut up? Let the expert speak for goodness sake. You have Helen Joyce on your show, let her inform you.

@jimberry7411 14 күн бұрын

I am sick to death of hearing people say they are being 'nice;. No they are cowards who are scared to say the truth when the truth hurts liars. You are a hypocrite Kevin and in your attempt to be nice you are damning the innocent. Someone once said that the road to hell is paved with good intent

@2trichoptera 14 күн бұрын

Origine of the word 'nice' is: from the Latin meaning ignorant, and from Old French meaning stupid. I am neither.

@jimberry7411 14 күн бұрын

@@2trichoptera thank you for that interesting fact. You may not be either but your spelling leaves a lot to be desired

@2trichoptera 14 күн бұрын

@@jimberry7411 large fingers on a small phone.

@markfox1545 14 күн бұрын

*intentions.

@nemosays6337 14 күн бұрын

If you don't want to accept lies stop telling them Kevin!

@ONYX-365 14 күн бұрын

*Humouring people isn't being nice to them* It's basically saying I don't care enough about you to disagree (to your face).

@traindriver35 14 күн бұрын

Kevin is getting himself in a terrible tangle here. "A man can't tell me he really is a woman" but then goes to say "I'll call a man a women to be polite" Where does that get him? I a terrible muddle, that's where.

@FiredUpFeminist 14 күн бұрын

And poor Helen Joyce wanted to knock some sense into him. 😂

@ajmote1734 14 күн бұрын

Agreed… yes, as said he’s being a hypocrite and a coward. This madness will NEVER end while folks like Kevin play both sides.

@spookycat8556 12 күн бұрын

Exactly. And Helen is right in that he has no skin in the game. If we call a man a woman then they feel free to enter our spaces . We cannot give an inch on this.

@d0minicaj101 9 күн бұрын

Calling someone she/her is not the same as calling someone a woman. Drag queens call each other girl/she/her all the time, but most of them are men and are well aware that they're men. Trans women are different than drag queens, because they actually live or try to live their lives as women. As a trans man who passes and is mostly stealth I say that in my day to day life I'm just a guy, but in cases where sex needs to be recognized I'm a trans man. I don't like being called a female, so I ask my doctors and anyone whom I date to call me a trans man instead of a female living as a man, even though I'm aware that I am biologically female.

@geraldcoffey3303 14 күн бұрын

I'm afraid Kevin perpetuates the lies by continuously using the term transwomen

@itnahtapohcysp 14 күн бұрын

Male and Female end of story

@littlesaffron 14 күн бұрын

Helen, how do you do it? Such joyful composure and you never lose sight of logic. Thank you!

@ruthcollins2841 14 күн бұрын

Those wishing to become the "opposite sex" should 1) have to be 18+ and b) pay for the operations/ treatments themselves.

@liamjohnhawkins4212 14 күн бұрын

You can’t become the opposite sex

@user-bz4sy3gj4o 14 күн бұрын

no such surgeries should be allowed, those are mutilation and not 'treatments' they don't benefit anyone.... an 18 year old who was brainwashed from young age is not able to make such decisions especially that brain matures up to late 20s.... anyone who thinks they can become opposite sex is not capable to make any big decisions

@ConnieWobbles 8 күн бұрын

The brain isn't fully developed by 18 so 25 should be an absolute minimum. By that time most will be able to make better judgements, or possibly have had time to do trauma therapy if that's the issue. Personally I think it should be illegal.

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

@ConnieWobbles what other medical procedures do you think should be illegal? Or is it just trans procedures?

@ConnieWobbles 3 күн бұрын

@@1i11ies8 can you define what you mean by 'trans'?

@BernieNewnham 14 күн бұрын

The term “trans woman” doesn’t help, it should be “trans man”

@stumccabe 14 күн бұрын

Even better is "transvestite"!

@jayhanson-hs5vg 14 күн бұрын

i will not accept the lies truth matters

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

But you're trying to live in a delusional world where transsexuality doesn't exist... that's not the real world, you want to live a lie

@gailbaxter4900 14 күн бұрын

Kevin haven’t you learnt yet that whatever you do for the trans camp it will never be enough.

@wickedbird1538 14 күн бұрын

😮😮my husband of 34 years does not want other men in my changing room. He can’t help it. It’s the way his mother raised him.

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

You can call trans women men all you want that doesn't change the fact that they're trans women

@dorasneddon774 14 күн бұрын

The problem with calling a man 'she/her' because they prefer it, Kevin O'Sullivan, is, as Helen says, that you dont have skin in the game. Those who want to force you to 'see' them as the wrong sex often have motivations which make them unsafe around vulnerable people and single srx women's spaces.

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

Please tell me how many times you've been attacked or molested by trans women in the bathroom?

@stumccabe 14 күн бұрын

One thing we should do is to revive the word "transvestite" - far more accurate then the preposterous word "transwoman"!

@vanessac1721 5 күн бұрын

No, it was transexual. Transvestite is a bit different. They only dressed as opposite sex.

@stumccabe 5 күн бұрын

@@vanessac1721 Vanessa, many who call themselves the first word are actually only the second word - it's just convenient for them. (Last time I commented on this subject using more direct language I received a warning from youtube, that's why I'm avoiding certain words.)

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

@@stumccabedo transvestites have vaginas?😂

@xragdoll5662 4 күн бұрын

⁠⁠⁠@@stumccabe100000% agree, I also got a KZfaq warning once I used direct words on this topic

@darel1540 14 күн бұрын

Facts do not give a F*** about feelings

@proudpict2057 14 күн бұрын

They demand we lie so they can continue to enjoy their lie.

@annearly3200 14 күн бұрын

Being nice. India Willoughby tried to kiss Ginuwine. People got mad at Ginuwine. How is someone declining to be kissed, the bad guy. No one owes them sexually validation.

@marycrawford9428 14 күн бұрын

Normally trying to kiss someone who doesn’t want it is assault or at least harassment. How awful.

@ViewerOnline101 14 күн бұрын

These people keep mixing up gender with PERSONALITY.

@salvolondon 14 күн бұрын

Sex with personality . Gender means nothing , should be used only when referred to grammar .

@ggavin9934 14 күн бұрын

I accept no lies. About anything. Period.

@chizzy2214 13 күн бұрын

Kevin if you go along with being kind, that's where it starts and you make it harder for women and girls. It's where we all started and more and more was taken. Nobody has the right to give away the rights of others.

@user-ke4bp3vn6e 14 күн бұрын

No government should be able to let anyone change their sex on any legal documents. The most people should be able to do is get a TF or TM.

@russellfoster2400 14 күн бұрын

Kev you are not being nice that is a cop out you are being a coward your guest is too polite to tell you there is no sitting on the fence or half measures it is what it is

@lw63 14 күн бұрын

Love Helen - need to hear more from her! She's one of the few people whose thinking is crystal clear on this.

@bwtv147 12 күн бұрын

That a person can pretend to be a member of the opposite sex does not obligate me to pretend I believe them.

@emmalouisesutton565 10 күн бұрын

A woman is an adult human female.period.

@user-VIntuitive 14 күн бұрын

No trans person is anything else BuT what they were born as. And pronouns are only used if you’re talking about a person in the third party. There’s no reason to use pronouns unless you’re talking about the person to someone else.

@helenablavatsky9136 14 күн бұрын

Why lie, Kevin?

@wickedbird1538 14 күн бұрын

😮😮woman = adult human female whose internal body was designed to create eggs.

@mariewalmsley6143 14 күн бұрын

You've more chance finding lord lucan on shergar than me calling a man a woman, so have that.

@dirtycitydisco 14 күн бұрын

Marc, Marc, Marc. Be the man you want to be. Be Kevin Bacon in Tremors. It's your choice. You, sir, are a man. I salute you.

@mariewalmsley6143 14 күн бұрын

@dirtycitydisco. You'll be saluting a REAL woman ,not a fake😊 tatty bye.

@mariewalmsley6143 14 күн бұрын

@dirtycitydisco. It's only right you should salute a REAL woman.😊 cheers.

@neils4886 14 күн бұрын

A man in a frock wearing lippy does not a woman make.

@Christine-ry1qq 14 күн бұрын

In the real world, we only have men and women It’s a team effort and we love it 🥰

@aaaaaaaa9189 14 күн бұрын

so you just pretend intersex people don’t exist?

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

In the real world Trends people exist and have always existed

@JuliePip 14 күн бұрын

You can face a prison term if convicted of impersonating a police officer, but it doesn't applly to trans identifying people?!

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

😂 fool

@helenromanelli2544 14 күн бұрын

I'll go ya one further..they are MEN. We're done here. On an individual basis, I'll decide if I want to go along with this nonsense. Collectively, or regarding someone in the public domain? NO. The answer is no.

@1i11ies8 4 күн бұрын

Feel free to put your willful ignorance on display for the public. See where it gets you

@seang-d 14 күн бұрын

I stopped watching question time when blm took over the nhs

@sharonalbanese8084 14 күн бұрын

I am totally with the wonderful Helen Joyce 💯

@Stefarooh 9 күн бұрын

This madness will continue until decent folk stand up to it. Also enough with being "nice". "Nice" is what has gotten us into this mess.

@ONYX-365 14 күн бұрын

❗️ *Humouring people isn't being nice to them* It's basically saying I don't care enough about you to disagree (to your face).

@nonconformist0189 14 күн бұрын

it will get worse under labour.

@Blueirishbloke 14 күн бұрын

Kevin’s position is completely bizarre 😬

@LadyPercy. 14 күн бұрын

Well said Helen Joyce, KOS is equally misjudged. If his wife ( he has no children ) started getting upset about same spaces then he would not pander to the pronoun bullies.

@duncanhewitt6557 14 күн бұрын

The literacy level overall has not increased since 2001 in uk schools. Isn't this the most important aspect of schools not anything else.

@jd23494 14 күн бұрын

You'd be advised to see the Health and Well Being trans ideology curriculum being taught in primary schools to children as young as 9. You might then have a different take on it.

@dawnemile7499 14 күн бұрын

People feel that telling an untruth makes it a reality"

@leodoherty5304 14 күн бұрын

Never spoken to one, NEVER WILL!

@proudpict2057 14 күн бұрын

Play dress up all you like, just remember the fantasy stops with you. It’s your fantasy, the rest of us have jobs to do and real life to get on with.

@patrickchauharjasingh7164 12 күн бұрын

He is totally being a hypocrite himself, contradicting himself, criticizing politicians for lying, while happily perpetuating the lies himself by using preferred pronouns and blithely accepting trans women's admonition that they are women so as to "live and let live". Every time we do these things, we reinforce and give credence to the lies. All power to Helen, and Riley, and Megyn, and JK, and others like them who relentlessly refuse to back down from speaking truth.

@charlesmclennan2173 14 күн бұрын

your DNA will never lie if you are born a guy that is what you are when you die even when you alter the body with things removed or added , its the dysphoria that needs treatment not body modding like a hotrod the mental health is the kicker here that needs so much help and should be the focus of health profeesionals

@hugolindum7728 13 күн бұрын

We should not go along with a lie.

@jancaulfield3549 14 күн бұрын

Used to be called transvestites or cross dresser

@barryschneider1199 6 күн бұрын

It’s fascinating how much people spend time dissecting the lives of people they don’t know. Many times they do this with the backing up of “facts” that upon examination are pure fantasy.

@Ciara-ASMR 14 күн бұрын

“…in words of one syllable…” brilliantly scathing

@angelagordon57 3 күн бұрын

The man says "dont tell me this and that" then he says i dont mind calling them what they wish to be called by. How does that make sense, he is adding to the insanity.

@madaxe606 5 күн бұрын

I used to be perfectly willing to go along with use of pronouns, and to go out of my way to accommodate trans people. Then the activists went completely off the deep end, and started behaving like religious fundamentalists, demanding total obedience to their belief system. Now? I will deliberately and explicitly refuse to play along, because doing otherwise is a tacit endorsement of these bullying, authoritarian practices. I won't affirm someone's religious beliefs just because they're threatening me, and I won't affirm someone's gender ideology for precisely the same reasons. If trans people don't like that, they then need to reign in the fanatics in their own house first. Then we'll talk.

@geoffreygushue2280 13 күн бұрын

NOW I understand that candy bar jingle...''Sometimes I feel like I have nuts, sometimes I don't''!!

@user-gj5se7er3r 14 күн бұрын

all will be swept away in due course

@ismaileee 14 күн бұрын

Transformers are Decepticons 😅

@kathleenfederl5121 14 күн бұрын

Will not tell lies!

@scotswumin5502 8 сағат бұрын

Helen is spot on, and points out his hypocrisy

@couscous4096 13 күн бұрын

Correct me if I am mistaken but Penny Mourdant has a brother who is homosexual, (nothing wrong with that) but who is very active in the Trans supporting Ideological community. I certainly would not trust a word she says in respect of the Trans issues.

@helenromanelli2544 14 күн бұрын

What part of no don't you understand, buddy? Just say no...got it?

@Doooooooooooood 6 күн бұрын

I refuse to take part in the compelled speech and controlled thinking game. It's a cult, anyone that disagrees or doesn't celebrate is automatically a hater.

@wolfhugs2221 14 күн бұрын

Always love listening to Helen but Kevin really needs some informing on this subject! Choosing to go along with lying men is legitimising them and punishing women. I don't believe that's what he really wishes to do, but he hasn't realised the impact of his actions.

@janetscrivener7915 13 күн бұрын

Who are these unnamed transactivists who should, for truth, be named and dealt with in person?

@freespeechadvocate7492 14 күн бұрын

Transanity as David Menzies from Rebel News calls it.

@normabead.9600 12 күн бұрын

I also oppose 100% this certificate crap saying you have changed sex.

@MrGroganmeister 10 күн бұрын

Trans Ladies: make sure to book in for you annual prostate exam.

@yvonnetrimble8557 10 күн бұрын

Hes part of the problem calling a bio man she/her its him/his no Matter what they say

@colinrobson1969 13 күн бұрын

Time to park the crazy trans train and get back to reality

@Michelle-Davis 9 күн бұрын

Feelings arent facts

@annajuliet5652 14 күн бұрын

Thank you, Helen, for once again, patiently, pointing out how so- called 'polite' (aka incorrect) language is affecting, primarily, women & girls and powerfully eroding the terms which we need to describe the boudaries & rights of all people.( Think 'Freedom is slavery', a la George @rwell). Saying what we all know not to be true, for whatever reason, is dangerous neither courteous nor polite.

@samuelchandler7612 14 күн бұрын

The wonderful Helen Joyce

@barryloughran3632 14 күн бұрын

What bout trans men. I dont Want to be in the big with them.

@bigp3006 7 күн бұрын

Im in no way obligated to cater to this nonsense.

@andrewthomas405 9 күн бұрын

I teach my children truth and common sense …proved by science …not one human have changed their sex/gender ..provable Identifying as something your not is delusion and aspiration ….no hate intended or inferred

@elizabethhill8781 10 күн бұрын

Insread of he or she, I say "This Person" if I want to be polite.

@Dave-if5qj 6 күн бұрын

There has to be boundaries Set the trans community Will need to accept if we are all to get along

@nonconformist0189 14 күн бұрын

remember. stamer says women have willes.

@janbrown9195 14 күн бұрын

Kevin your being a hypocrite to say the least pathetic 🤬🤬

@BlueEyes499 12 күн бұрын

‘’Why can’t politicians respect us and say men can’t become women?’’ Erm, because of people like you Kevin, calling men ‘she’ and ‘her’! You said yourself that you know it’s a lie so why do it! Clearly being ‘nice’ to trans people is more important to you than respecting and protecting women and girls’ rights, privacy and safety.

@jintyc9133 6 күн бұрын

Well said hellen

@Jeffwolfenson Күн бұрын

Trans never to achieve. No point to reality as never attainable always Trans. My freedom to not except.

@pdxxtqhf 13 күн бұрын

Just my opinion. Surely, it is actually a trans man.

@PaulPace-js2vt 14 күн бұрын

Send all the trains to Uganda

@sgb6476 9 күн бұрын

Kevin! Call them men!!

@StuartGrant-fm6ti 14 күн бұрын

even lying a little bit, it'll never be good enough, no matter what you say gonna hurt someone so don't hurt someone with a lie that's horrid.. and not what our parents taught us..