Perhaps the CGI of Beast Wars is outdated, but the show it´s better than most of the current shows in general

It's funny that the limit of technology at the time forced them to have fewer characters, then they had to flesh out all the characters. They had to have good character writing to maintain the show. Transformers really needs that kind of writing to better drive toy sales. We buy the characters we love.

"Well, That's Just Prime." -Optimus Primal, Beast Wars

I admit, I did not watch the Beast Wars series until 2018, after being a Transformers fan since 2003, but it only took one binge watch of the whole series for me to become an instant Beast Wars fanatic. Thank you for this retrospective of arguably one of the best Transformers series RodimusPrimal.

I am a child of the beast wars. I heard of the "great war" many times as a kid durring the show and when I finally discovered torrenting back in the day watching the original G1 series was like discovering old war documents. Its one of my fondest memories. My favorite episode is "aftermath."

Am I the only one who wished that everyone in the show got the Transmetal upgrade? Waspinator would become a jet, Rhinox could become an ATV, and Terrosaur would become a VTOL jet. But no, sadly it was just the toys.

I absolutely love, how Optimus Primal answers with his typical, normally sarcastic catchphrase, when he changes to "Optimal Optimus" after taking Prime's spark into his body. Cheetor: "Bigbot? H-how do you feel?" Primal (standing up with heavy machine noises): "In a word? PRIME!" Oh, and the really hilarious moment, when Rhinox asks Primal, if he remembers the Transwarp-explosion, Primal died in at the end of season 1. Primal: "So, what is it?" Rhinox: "Remember that Transwarp cell explosion?" Primal: - - - Rhinox: "OK, stupid question..." Yes, I LOVE Beast Wars. If they would update the graphics, but maintain every dialogue, I'd buy it at once again! Edit (just stumbled upon my own comment 😅): My most favorite dialogue between Primal and Megatron in the very last episode: Megatron (citing from the covenant of Primus): "And there came a hero, who said: hurt not the earth, nor the sea, nor the breeze, nor the very fabric of time. But the hero would not prevail." Primal: "Finish the quote Megatron. Nor would he surrender." Funny thing is, I'm from Germany, we only got the first season and the other two never got on our market, so there's of course no german synchronization of the 2nd an 3rd (which somehow ist better, the pun with the word "prime" wouldn't work in my language, although the german voice actors did a pretty good job in the first season), so I discovered the other two seasons, when I was in my late 20's. I'm glad, I had to watch them in english. And it somehow closes the circle, I learned english mainly, because I stood up Sundays at 6 am, when I was about 8 - 10 years old in the 80's (something I'd never do nowadays 🤣), so I could watch the G1 cartoon on an english TV channel and deduced, what the characters said and did (and some words are similar to the german language). And Beast Wars felt to me, like it was made exactly for fans, who grew up with it, the episode with Starscream's ghost was the first one that blew my mind and it never disappointed me.

I just finished introducing my girlfriend to the Beasts just a few days ago. She went in only knowing Transformers from the Bay films (before I introduced her to Prime) and fell in love with the cast of Wars/Machines. She cried as Dinobot died, she swooned at the romance of Silverbolt and Blackarachnia and again seeing their romance rhymed in Machines (when BA saved SB from being a villain like he had saved her). In my mind, that says so much. She looks forward to watching both series again eventually.

Megatron's 'Yes'😄.We must give all our belongings the Rod Royalty.

God, I had forgotten about Primal Rage. Kind of glad Primal and Megatron were reworked as a Gorilla and a T-Rex, the Bat and Alligator just seems weird now. I loved this show at first sight, I adored it. The story was great, animation was revolutionary (at the time) and the voice acting was perfect. Dinobot was an instant recipient of my adoration. Airazor became my favorite. When they started with the G1 reference I became obsessed with them. And when Ravaged showed up I fangasmed. Code of heroes is the best episode, Dinobot delivers the best comeback 'A warrior still' and then dies to make us cry. That show really did save Transformers for me. Great review Rodimus Primal, you nailed it.

The original G1 cartoon will always have a special place in my heart but Beast Wars for me will always be my favourite Transformers series because it wasn't afraid to go dark and kill off characters plus they kept both teams small which enabled you to not only connect with everyone better but it made for better overall storytelling. 3 seasons of epicness from start to finish Side note: I highly recommend everyone watch the 'Code Of Hero' episode from season 2, it's not only the most epic but it's the most emotional.

I've never laughed at any Transformers video on KZfaq until "BEASTIES!!" I almost choked on what I was eating. It even had that same intensity as "BEAST WARS!!"

I remember that when Ravage transformed, the fact of hearing again the classic transformation sound made me feel very nostalgic and happy.

I loved Beast Wars. It made the transformers feel more real and shown them to have feelings. I loved the episode Season 2 | Episode 10 with Transmutate. I had my heart break when I heard "Friend… good. Friend… dark. I… am… hurt." I yelled NOOOOoooo.

What made Beastwars great were the characters and stories! You loved hearing Megatron " YEESSS" as much as you'd love Wapinator getting smashed or Primal saying " Well that's just Prime." It was lightening in a bottle and only got better as the episodes progressed! Fantastic voice talent, memorable lines and unforgettable story moments that makes this series more than worthy in any Trasformers Hall of Fame!

The most computer animated masterpiece ever born!

Beats Wars was the series that got me into the Transformers series. Dinobot is my all time favorite Transformer. i love the idea of seeing the decendents of the Autobots and Decpitons going to war and the reason for their beast modes is an interesting one. in my own opinion i feel this is one of the best Transformers series. MAXIMAL FOR LIFE!!!!

I would watch “Beast Wars”, “Mummies Alive!” & “Gargoyles” every high school morning, from 1994 til 1998, all having awesome stories...🤓

This brings back memories. God, I miss television.

Optimus Primal was very different type of leader than Optimus Prime. Prime was more of a born leader + warrior king. Primal was really not used to being the leader and he was more of a scientist. Over time, Primal learned how to lead and fight, but he never quite became a hardened warrior, always exhibiting a softer side.

Originally I thought beast wars was "ok" but now that kingdom toys were released I just love it

Ngl I was one of those people who was resistant to beast wars at first. I always like generation one better and I honestly still do but over the years I sort of warmed up to it. Yeah of course I like the old style of transformers of having to transform into vehicles but you know having them transform into animals is a nice change of pace. To be honest I don't know why disliked it at first anyways since they're already were technically animal transformers in generation 1 (the dinobots and the insecticons). If Frank welker can't voice Megatron then David Kay sure can. Yessss....

Beast Wars is why i'm a transformers fan to this day. Dinobot is still my favorite nearly cried as a kid when he died rip brave warrior.

"Hello there! I recently stumbled upon this channel and was pleasantly surprised. I was one of the artists on BW! It's incredible to witness that nearly 30 years after its debut, the show still resonates with viewers. Even more remarkable is its ability to captivate new generations of fans! Here's to the enduring charm of timeless classics and the joy they continue to bring. Cheers to all of you for keeping the love alive! 🎉✨

Man, Cartoon Network was a star back in the day, now it’s a baby content creator.

Beast Wars the TV show and Beast Machines the TV show are collectively known as the TRUE Transformers: Generation 2 TV show because in the Beast Wars and Beast Machines TV shows, the Maximals are the descendants of the Autobots and the Predacons and Vehicons are the descendants of the Decepticons. And both of the TV shows had connections to the G1 cartoon and the '86 G1 movie.

That's just dandy! ~Rhinox I loved Beast Wars as a kid. To see the connection to G1 was great. So many great episodes with an array of emotions. Dinobot's death was one I look up time to time when I feel the need to rewatch some of the series, or if I need a good laugh, I rewatch Rhinox's infected episode from season 1. I still have quite a few of the toys and let my son play with them. He enjoys hearing about and watching the series.

I like transformers and beast wars

Not going to lie, having grown up with Animated and TF Prime i still appreciate beast wars, it's just hysterical and also serious when it needs to.

Beast Wars. The greatest Transformers show ever. YEAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

I LOVED Beast Wars when it was on & I also loved Beast Machines. I cried during "Code of Hero" when Dinobot died because Rat Trap lost his best arguing partner. I mean sure, he squabbled with Silberbolt aka Bird Dog, but nothing can compare to the banter he had with Chopper-Face. If I had to pick a favorite episode it would be a toss-up between "The Low Road" where Rat Trap & Dinobot had to get the energon discharge virus & they had some of the best bickering going on, & the other was "The Spark" where Rhinox risked his own spark to sve Airazor. I also enjoyed "The Spark" because I know that episode by heart, so if I have trouble sleeping I say the 1st few lines of that episode out loud & hear the rest of the episode in my head & it helps me get to sleep.

"Look down in the sky! Is it a bird?" "Maybe a plane?" "No, It's OPTIMUS!" This show had so many references to other series, and so many built in adult jokes. I grew up with G1, but was so charged to find Beast Wars that I bought the entire series on DVD and my daughter and I watched it over and over again. (After watching it air for the first time through together on tv.) And as of this week I have the ENTIRE Maximal collection of toys of the first 5 plus Air Razor all from the new Kingdom show coming. I also got Megatron...yes....

I LOVED Beast Wars, and I am an early 80s Baby. I learned how to set-up Timed Recordings on my VHS so I wouldn't miss an episode. I have no idea how many times I have rewatched this series throughout my life, and that includes multiple times on VHS.

Beast Wars fan here since 1997. My favorite cartoon show (alongside Batman the animated series and later Aeon Flux). I had a large collection of Beast Wars figures, those were the only toys I was interested in and even had the videogame. It was an outstanding show, it respected the audience and gave us memorable characters.

I remember watching this every morning in 1996 before going to school. I even have my old optional Optimus action figure still my favorite transformer toy my favorite episode, would have to be the agenda trilogy even though season one had probably the best episodes and the best one liners from rat trap I still have the entire series on DVD and every so often I pop them in and rewatch them because the writing was just so good. Still holds up to this day even better than that Netflix series that’s on right now.

I seen the show when I was eight years old on transformers sites on my old computer and later saw it online show sites when I got older and in high school. Also seeing the footage of g1 gets to smile. But God dam so I like Beast wars that show has to be my favorite show.

i hope waspinator becomes a maximal in a future beast wars series, i hope tigatron, airazor, and tigerhawk become separate characters in a future beast wars series, i hope sentinel primal, rodimus primal/rodimal rodimus, nemesis primal/nemepal, nemesis, galvatron, toxitron, megatronus/megatronus primal, the 13 primals, megaempress, and toxiempress appears in a future beast wars series

This show was amazing. I was pissed when dinobot died,but at least he goes out like an absolute boss.

I grew up with Beast Wars. I loved how there was a story to it and enjoyed it. seeing the reruns of G1 I couldn't understand what was going on because I couldn't guarantee we saw them in order. later found out that was how the G1 series was. I think the beast wars was a BIG help. it provided the concept that there could be a plot that spanned multiple episodes, even over a season or two. let alone all the lore they added/refined

Beast War was my first Transformers series ever. I remember got out school and watched the first episode thought this is awesome. Beast Wars introduced me to G1 I grown love it much as I love BW.

Beast wars was my first introduction to transformers and G1 was my older brothers. By the time season 2 finale aired on tv here in Canada, we were both hooked. Inferno was definitely my favorite. Calling Megatron a Queen is legendary🤣

Beast Wars is one of the examples of why listening to the fans isn't always the way to go. Ask a fan what they want, and they'll almost certainly answer: more of the stuff I already like. Most of the time, you're don't know WHAT you want till you have it. It's why you say that you "discovered" a new series that you like. By trying something new (over the objections of the G1 orthodoxy) Transformers was, as the video pointed out, saved from pop culture irrelevance.

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest...is silence..."

Yes I loved Beast Wars and when they made the connection to G1, I could not wait until Season 3 came on to show the date of what Beast Wars Megatron had done to the greatest leader G1 Optimus Prime!!!!!!

When it started...I hated the thought and animation and everything else about it. Then I watched the whole thing in 2003/2004, and really grew to love and respect it.

Loved Beast Wars! My kids love it as well now that they've seen it on Tubi free.

I was 4, almost 5 when Beast Wars ended. I had remember watching reruns and even getting excited for Beast Machines, which I didn't even watch. I also had two of the toys. Rhinox and Waspinator. I may have grew up on the Unicron Trilogy, but Beast Wars was my start, and holds a special place in my heart.

Wow!!! Just binged all seasons on disc a month ago. The quality and intelligence of the show was grossly underrated. thanks for the anniversary info. Doesn’t seem like 25 years.

I guess it was clear that people were confused when the "Beast Wars" came with animal modes galore and a new animation style, everyone was mixed for the start, but now it was the legend of it all in the Transformers franchises

I'm almost finished watching the series on Tubi, just 12 more episodes to go.

The last five episodes of season 2 are probably the best 2 hours of Transformers ever put to screen. Code of Hero, Transmutate, The Agenda. Fantastic episodes!

This show started it all for me. Regretfully I gave most of my collection away to a younger member of the family because I was in my "I need to grow up now" phase, but i kept my Optimal Optimus and T2 Megs though.

I enjoyed Beast Wars, and my very first online purchase back in 2000, was TM2 Blackarachnia. I was a high school senior when the series first aired.

I just rewatched the series. It holds up extremely well.

I love beast wars it such a amazing show and growing up and still holds up till this day

I consider Beast Wars the best Transformers series. It's a great piece of work

The one thing I wish happened was that they would have saved Terrorsaur's and Skorponok's deaths so that they could have been killed by Dinobot during his last stand, it would have felt more just to Dinobot I think.

I was introduced to Beast Wars in its 10th anniversary, when I was 10 back in 2006. And still to this day, it remains one of my most favorite transformers series of all time.

Still my favorite show. I saw it in sixth grade and had never seen anything with so much character development and lore before. No transformers show or movie has ever lived up to this show since.

I love how people won't let beast wars die!!!! Code of hero was my favorite episode of any episode of any show, ever. This show was so amazing.

That is correct. If not for Beast Wars, Transformers may have been struggling for revival to the 21st Century. My most favourite arcs on BW were the Agenda 1-3 Arc + Optimal Situation and the Nemisis 1-2 Arc.

I love you for referencing Primal Rage. Love that game. Anyway, Beast Wars was my introduction to Transformers. I didn't know Optimus Prime as a kid, just Optimus Primal. I also wish they added more dinosaur Maximals.

Man beast 25 yrs already They gotta release something My 3rd favorite transformers series

Most people don't know is that Mainframe wasn't always given the new forms for the maximals and predacons till later. Which is why Optimus Primal didn't come back till episode 3 of the second season. Also why Transmetal 2 cheetor and Dinobot till the halfway point of season 3 and transmetal 2 Megatron, blackaracnia and Tigerhawk. If they had gotten some pictures of them earlier these variations wouldn't have been added near the end of the series but earlier. Also may have extended season 3 a little.

I love both G1 and Beast Wars, I used to watch these 2 back during my childhood and I love it, awesome Anniversary video on Beast Wars.😁👍✨🎉

I didn't discover Beast Wars until I was 19 in the summer of 1998. I hated it at first, but it grew on me. I caught the final season and highly anticipated Beast Machines only to be disappointed with it. However, rewatching both last year after all those years, I love both. I developed an appreciation for BM. I have no idea how I caught all the episodes. I think here the new shows were on Saturdays and the old ones were during the week. I can't remember but I had seen all but maybe one or two episodes.

I have to say, Beast Wars is a great cartoon and also Dinobot is something I would call “layers”. Meaning that he has character development. And also serves as a Transformers version of Teen Titans.

I got Transformers Beast Wars 10th Anniversary Dinobot when I was in Elementary. I started watching Beast Wars and I still have Beast Wars 10th Anniversary Dinobot toy.

I'm currently rewatching the series on Tubi. It was one of my favorite cartoons growing up.

Beast Wars Transformers was an awesome cartoon. I watched it as a teenager. For the last few years, I've watched it on and off on KZfaq. Instead of disguising themselves as vehicles again, disguising themselves as animals was a brilliant idea and it made sense since it would be later revealed in the series that the Earth-like planet they're on is prehistoric Earth before the wheel and cars and airplanes were invented. I think the best episode of the entire series was "Code of Hero" which was also the saddest. Dinobot was the best character in the cartoon. Dinobot became a real hero when he sacrificed his life to the save the future of humanity. "Code of Hero" was writing and voice acting performances at their best. "Code of Hero" shows that there is good in of all us and that we are willing to sacrifice ourselves to do the right thing and for the greater good and it was Dinobot's redemption for his dark deeds as a Predacon. A shame it ended after only 3 seasons. It's been rumoured Beast Wars will be coming to the big screen. The only Transformers movie I ever watched on the big screen was the 2007 film. Hopefully, if it is done right, it will be epic.

This was my oldest son's first animated series to watch and he absolutely loved it and we watched it every morning before he had to go to school.

I absolutely love beast wars, definitely in my top three favorite transformers stories along with Transformers Prime and the IDW comics.

I have to admit being a hard-core g1 fan I never wanted to give beastwars the time of day. Due to you , PPR , and the "slag podcast " talking so highly of Beastwars I decided to give it a chance , and I really am surprised that I liked it so much ! You guys were right and I was even dead set against buying the kingdom Beastwars stuff . Guess what I own them all and I absolutely love that Megatron and am hoping they do more with Beastwars ! Great retrospective !

I was to young for G1 and G2. But Beast Wars blow my mind. Was like love a first sight. Still a great show it may deserve a remaster with the original audio. Just updated 3D model. My fav episode was when dinobot passaway. Was really sad.

Beast Wars was, and will always be, my number one Transformers series

Beast Wars is possibly one of my favorite shows of all time, and obviously my favorite episode is Code of Hero, even though I cry every single time I've watched it, since it originally aired in 1998. As someone who was slightly too young for G1, I was introduced to Beast Wars first, and it died in so perfectly with G1 when I watched that afterwards that, for years, I had a very hard time understanding how any Transformers fan could dislike it.

I missed out on Beast Wars initially. It came out just after I was born. Beast Machines had taken over by the time I was able to consciously watch TV. That was my introduction to the Transformers. After that I'd caught the bug. I grabbed tubi up last month and when I saw Beast Wars AND Beast Machines I dove in head-first. I dare say, Mainframe's animations hold up better 30 years later than most newer series. Fight me.

*BEAST WAAAAARRRSSSSS* _Theme intensifies_

I had the same reaction you did but then gave it a second chance when they did the five day Ayreen at the end of season two episode seven Cartoon Network and fell in love with it and I’ve never looked back. Coincidently, yesterday morning I just finished re-watching Beast Wars/Beast Machines for the umpteenth time!

Beast Wars is how I was introduced to Transformers

Great Video. I never disliked BW, but just kind of waited to see where it went. As they slowly hinted at its connectivity to the original series, my fondness for the show grew. The Agenda is my favorite set of episodes. Tigatron/Tigerhawk was my favorite character. I also joined the community online. First alt.toys.transformers, then BW anonymous fan fiction site, then finally to Ben Yees message board. I still remember emailing Larry DiTillio, and he answered them all, a consumate professional. I also had the honor of being the first online on Ben Yees message board to post the Season 3 episode list as it was revealed at Botcon 98, my first TF convention.

Beast Wars came to our local (Philippines) shores mid-1997. I believe it was a hit because two (2) years later, it was re-dubbed into our language. I am always a fan of the original language though, which I eventually carried to anime watching. There was a bit of skepticism when I first watched it (G1 set the tone). But since basically having no choice since there was no social media and other forms of entertainment were boring, I complied to watch without "comparison mindset" to G1 as possible and it worked, looking forward to its next episode every Sunday evening. I was naive thinking Peter Cullen and Frank Welker reprising their roles. Kudos to Megatron's voice talent ("Yes!...") and Waspinator's comic relief which reminds of Starscream. And "Yes!...", I came to realize Beast Wars brought The Transformers franchise to cross-over into the 1990s (and up to now) and to new batch of audience that most (if not all) of its 80s counterparts failed to do (eg., "Dino Riders", "Visionaries", "M.A.S.K.", "Inhumanoids", "Tigersharks", "Thundercats", "Bionic Six", "Silverhawks", etc.). Nowadays, the term "Beast Mode" has become a local play word as person on his/her most "angriest" or "hysterical" state. Oh well, talk about updating the thesaurus. I've partially watched the heroic act of Dinobot (missed it on its TV run) here at KZfaq. Will find it soon while still anticipate a potential tearjerker.

My first and favorite transformers series, before When I was kid didn’t watch g1 Transformers realizing later they were connected in grade school days now that I under stand it better, I was pretty stupid growing up.

Beast Wars still has the best designs. Even the color scheme is on point.

1.Transmutate 2.Code of Hero 3.The Agendas

Beast Wars did something lacking in other series: fleshed out characters, developed personalities with room to grow or falter, life, death and evolution is inherit to each individual and group and each leader is capable of failing. I was 18 when G1 premiered, watched the movie first run and questioned what were they thinking with some latter series.

I’ve seen bits of Beast Wars when I was a kid and had no idea what it was but when I saw Transformers wfc trilogy Kingdom I then watched Beast Wars and now I love it

I was curious about the show and watched it as a kid and utterly fell in love with it. I followed it as best I could and yeah the Dinobot episode was one of the best written episodes of the whole show. `It really showed us just powerful of a warrior he could be, Diobot's conviction and his sense of honor were always his best and at times his worst traits. His final lines about how let the good be taken with the bad and let history makes it's own judgements was just heart wrenching. I was more shocked when I first saw this as a kid/teenager, but now that I'm older I can fully appreciate this scene for what it truly is. His final words show just how much of a character they put into him. "And the rest is silence." It's also an amusing point of fact that the very FIRST Transformer inducted into the Hall of Fame, was none other than Waspinator. The lovable goof who always got blown up every episode yet would always rise to do battle once more. It's a fun fact that the reason he always got blown up was because of the weird way they had to animate him, so they got him off screen as quickly as possible. They hated having to animate him, yet the character grew on them so much that when networks came to sit down to give them their wish of killing off the good ole bug, they actually said that the character had grown on them and they wanted to keep him. As you can imagine the studio was a bit shocked but relented and in turn we got Terrosoar and Scopinoack killed off instead. Also Waspinator got the best ending of all the Predacons. His final line as he was being honored by the proto-humans best surmises it. *takes a sip* "Ahhh Waspinator is Happy." Hands down one of the best Transformers series out there. Very well written with both it's silly moments and serious moments. It was a fun ride from start to finish. Which is why I'm glad for Christmas three years ago a friend of mine got me the complete series collection on dvd.

BeastWars was MY transformers.

They couldn’t have “War” in the Canadian run but they could still keep all the beautifully graphic robot violence though

Use to collect Beast Wars as a kid. Last year I started buying sealed product now have over 40 of them! Been great having that nostalgic feel once again!

I watched the original G1 reruns plus G1 Transformers movie & will always love them the most. I love Beast Wars 2nd and only have G1 & Beast Wars seasons on dvd. I liked Prime seasons.

I always loved Beast Wars and that they made it a sequel to the original was genius

Same here! This series hit me at just the right time. I missed the cartoon of the 80s and was ready for something new. The CGI was amazing for the time. Likewise, when they tied in Starscream, Ravage and the Ark I was all in. It's in my top 3 of all 14+ transformers series, and the stories and characters hold up really well with age.

Beast Wars Transformers is how you do a sequel series! With great characters and some great stories to go along with them, along with the most important thing, something that Hollywood for the most part forgot: respecting what came before! Hollywood please, do yourself a favor for once in this decade and TAKE SOME NOTES! Otherwise, Japan's going to beat you again and again.

See, I grew up with Transformers and LOVED Beast Wars out the gate. The movie had given us an END to G1 and the comics did too. The solid writing and amazing voice talent sold it instantly. I also loved Beast Machines, as its long form story telling was something I dearly wanted out of my stories. I wanted things that didnt talk DOWN to me but gave me something to chew on.

Hey Rodimus don't forget that Tarantulas was never a Autobot or Decepticon he was a whole different race of transformers all together!!!!!!!!!

I love freaking people out by telling them that the Earth used to have two moons with one of them being an alien weapon that exploded which is the cause of our current moon having so many craters.

I grew up with G1, and watched Beastwars as a young adult far after I have given up after G2 imploded. I LOVE Beastwars, it's the sequel series I always wanted. It's a damn shame future shows never expanded on the lore, it just tried to reboot it over and over and over and over. G1 and Beastwars are truly the heart of transformers. I want to see POST BEAST MACHINES CONTENT! All new characters, all new time line, all new stories! No Megatron and Optimus Prime (at least not as main characters, references are fine, maybe even referring to them as gods or legends).

Frank Walker’s Megatron was pure tyranny. However Kaye’s BW Megatron is an all rounded character with joy, glee, intelligence, humor, etc. Instead of just being evil, he at times justified and believed in his position. Fascinating. YESSSSSSSSSSSSS.