Transforming a Mercedes w460 into a 500GE

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10 жыл бұрын

Our long time family G-Wagen was a bit slow after 31 years, so we put a mercedes w126 m117 5 litre V8 into it. There is hardly any info i could readily find on how to do this, so i put this one together to show how we did it. Im now very happy with the vehicle which sounds great, is far more useful in the city and has no issues with sand (the only previous weakness of our heavy G) at all. Economy? Son't ask...

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@phillipbrown351 3 жыл бұрын

Really well done!

@YangGQ Ай бұрын

excellent work! We have the same problem/modification on our 1983/4 LWB W460 300GD. It has the older circular engine mountings. We needed custom mountings to fit the 1990's OM603 engine.

@w116036 Ай бұрын

a 1990s 463, cant you buy the mounts from the dealer Yang? It really is a lot of work with all this stuff. driveshaft length. tachometer calibration, worry about driveshaft mount angles! it goes on. good luck mate

@YangGQ Ай бұрын

@@w116036 We are not going that modern! The engine and autogearbox come from a 300D Mercedes W24 E-class of 1990s vintage. not completed yet!

@kendexter 4 жыл бұрын

Great work..love my G

@mercedesbenz8642 10 жыл бұрын

This is love) Great work!!!

@LL-me5ev 3 жыл бұрын

Der Klang ist richtig gut 😉

@ajh4294 5 жыл бұрын

Kudos! Beautiful rig. Youve inspired me to make mine a v8 now!!!Im putting an m113 super charged 5 liter in my 84 cabrio.

@Tareqprince 5 жыл бұрын

AJ Hiltebeitel me too hahaha

@w116036 4 жыл бұрын

@@Tareqprince careful guys, if yours is a mint original one and the engine is fine, id stay as is. if you only occasionally drive it and have money to throw away, go for it. there is a bit of work to get it done nicely. its a lot easier to drive around town at low km's, but I would feel safer driving the 280ge driving across the country at 100km as the V8 rev;'s pretty high for a v8 on long runs.

@Paalwable 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there, great job, really impressed by your work, craftmaship and commitment to get this job done without any "instructions" from others what so ever. Also a great compilation of the work for others to see, if anyone should have enough balls to try somethin similar :) I noticed a detail on your car, that you have the original old style V8 badges on the side, which originally came only on the 500GE. I have a 500GE myself, but some previous owner removed the original V8 badges from the side to add some newer style, and now I can't find the original badges with the underlinig of V8 anywhere, not even in Mercedes EPC for my car. How and where did you find these?? :p

@rickcrf2360 8 жыл бұрын

Hi, im pretty amazed about your idea of putting a 5.0l v8 engine , a couple of years ago i had my g-wagon (w460) with a 240 engine and i did the same thing but with a 300td with the 240 transmission. But right now after watching this video i would like to do the same thing of installing a v8. Was there any major modification ? regards the steering mechanism and transmission to transfercase? Thankyou Richard

@geoffreydegrand1027 8 жыл бұрын

So... great job! but i had one question, you've got a 500 engine + transmission mounted but did you changed anything about the shafts or anything? because of the torque etc.

@w116036 8 жыл бұрын

+Geoffrey de Grand . not originally Geoff. after 10000km on the 500, it started to get some reasonable vibrations in the transfer case selector and a vibration at speed. we have had the car for 30 years and its probably done 400000km (we reset the odo when changed the 300GD to the 280GE, and again when we rebuilt the 280 m110 in early 2000s). it could have been wear and tear with age, it could have been brought on by the greater power but i dont think so. i changed the transfer case mounts and it didn't help. the driveline guys thought the shafts weren't right so i had a new rear and intermediate shaft made. just balanced the front shaft. when we originally fit it, i think you only had to cut the intermediate shaft from gearbox to transfer case. make sure you line the two ends up as they were though!..

@holsonadi 6 жыл бұрын

I love it! This is pretty much how I’d want my 460! Did you consider the side exit sport exhaust from a G500 or G63? I’m sure a used set be could be cut up to fit.

@w116036 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Holson, if you have the side pipes I would probably get done by the cops. also as I took the sidesteps off I wouldn't want my kids getting burnt climbing in!

@jesperschmidt78 6 жыл бұрын

Hey have installed the same engine in my w460 SWB but I have some problems getting it road legal the in Denmark, have you hat the same problem ?

@zez777 9 жыл бұрын

Hello dear friend ,,, amazing job ... dream becomes reality ... what you did with the previous engine ..? I need it ...

@w116036 9 жыл бұрын

amos mos ha. sorry mate. sold that to a guy with a 123 I think. it was ahigh compression engine my mechanic rebuilt so in great shape.

@allofus6133 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work. I like to do that with my 280g 1986. But its gonna kost a fortune i presume.

@paulrebel1752 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, building an m117 in my 280 GE short version at the moment, your vid is helping and inspiring!! The exhaust headers don't fit in how did you solve this?? Could you make a movie or some pictures on that part as it is a little short in this one!

@w116036 4 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, ill see if I can get around to it. The headers/exhaust manifolds were custom made. The standard ones from the m117 sedan do not fit, whether they are the 'logs' or 'tri y', you will need to get some made! best of luck paul

@paulrebel1752 4 жыл бұрын

@@w116036 thanks a lot, it is tight but i have a 2 inch bodylift wich gives a little room. Still thinking about the log or spaghetti exhaust type.

@paulrebel1752 4 жыл бұрын

Have you had the time maybe to make some pictures maybe? Would be a great help to me! Thanks anyway.

@mylessterrett 2 жыл бұрын

Any update, curious as well, can’t clear the front prop shaft. Going to have my muffler guy see if he can goof some bends in.

@paulrebel1752 2 жыл бұрын

@@mylessterrettmine is finished and road legal since march 2021! Exhaust is the log type since i made IT myself and didn't want to overcomplecate things. Routing is under the body beside the body mount.....

@g63moments 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing job man :) would you be interested to share more details how this was one?

@w116036 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Admir, nema problema, samo engleski! ha ha. let me know your questions and I will try and help, it was a few years ago now and the car still goes well!

@ullrotta1675 10 жыл бұрын

Lovely car! Is this Australia?

@w116036 10 жыл бұрын

yeah mate. in the most isolated capital city in the world! there were only about 150 w460s sold here in the 80s, and many of them have now rusted out! thanks for words

@v14da 2 жыл бұрын

Svaka cast! Prelep G. Imam G350TD i razmisljao sam da idem putem M113k (E55) ali ne verujem da ce diff i transfer box da izdrze :/

@w116036 2 жыл бұрын

Hvala vam. Moji jezik nije najbolje! The e55 would be a monster but I think you will blow up the transfer case! Pozdrav iz australije

@mattparsons6025 6 жыл бұрын

Hey, noticed your in Perth same as me. Im looking at doing something similar.

@kimssky 5 жыл бұрын

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@lockingBlock 9 жыл бұрын

What's that "HR" sticker doin' there? You didn't import the G from Croatia, did you?

@w116036 9 жыл бұрын

lockingBlock Nah. Family history!

@deutschgd 9 жыл бұрын

What is the size of your BFGoodrich tires at 5:18?

@w116036 9 жыл бұрын

Gunbilig Disan hey were 32s. small amount of rubbing in full lock reverse only. I didn't want to cut any of the G which I think you need to do with 33s.

@deutschgd 9 жыл бұрын

hey thanks a lot!

@francescocattaneo4262 5 жыл бұрын

hello, woh produce the engine custom bracket? thank you

@w116036 4 жыл бұрын

they were from the German off road c company ORC. they were not cheap!

@hansverkoeijen5910 9 жыл бұрын

Very nice job! Can you please tell me who made the engine brackets in Germany? Greetings Hans

@w116036 9 жыл бұрын

Hans Verkoeijen sorry re delay Hans, I think they were ORC from memory and they cost about 600 euro at the time! that was without postage to Australia!

@hansverkoeijen5910 9 жыл бұрын

w116036 Thats ok, thnx for your reply! I will contact ORC ;-)

@khaledzeddam6010 4 жыл бұрын

Are you Cheng rear axle?

@w116036 4 жыл бұрын

no friend, it would be ideal but it creates a lot of issues I believe. first, you would need to change both axles so they run in unison. second, id have to confirm the right choice - I think 280ge'ss would have better freeway ratios than our 300gd had and they were never sold in australia

@drewsuppa 9 жыл бұрын

The VG80 can handle all that torque???

@w116036 9 жыл бұрын

Drew Suppa not sure about this mate. it now has a bit of driveline rattle so ive had the driveshafts realigned. I don't generally do too many burnouts so I think it should be fine. I though he VG80 meant it could handle 800Nm as in low range these Gs really ratchet up the torque?