Translating Tendency in Helicopters

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Helicopter Lessons In 10 Minutes or Less

Helicopter Lessons In 10 Minutes or Less

6 жыл бұрын

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The topic of this video is Translating Tendency which is the tendency for Helicopters to drift laterally in the direction of tail rotor thrust. This is also referred to as "torque effect." In rotor systems that turn counter-clockwise, this is a right lateral drift. It is also the reason why you see Helicopters lean left skid/wheel low when at a stationary hover. So why does this occur?
Remember Newton's 3rd law that states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction? This is occurring when a rotor system is turning. As the main rotor turns counter-clockwise, it pushes the aircraft fuselage in the opposite direction (clockwise). If this were left uncompensated, the fuselage would continue to rotate around and around clockwise leaving the aircraft uncontrollable. So we fix this by adding an anti-torque device, aka a tail rotor. The tail rotor counteracts the torque of the main rotor by pushing the fuselage counter-clockwise to counteract main rotor thrust. The tail rotor does this by pushing the tail to the right and nose to the left with the mast as the pivot point. Not only this but the tail rotor also gives us the ability to have heading control by manipulating how much pitch is applied. So this fixes the problem of heading control but now introduces Translating Tendency. Because the tail rotor pushes the tail to the right and the main rotor torque effect pushes the nose to the right, the helicopter now develops a lateral drift to the right. The compensation of main rotor thrust has the Tendency to Translate into a lateral drift.
So how do we compensate for Translating Tendency? There are 3 ways.
1) Rigging - either by cyclic rigging of the flight controls or
structural rigging by offsetting or leaning of the transmission/mast.
2) Flight Management System - a computer automatically makes corrective actions in the flight controls.
3) Pilot Input- if the first 2 aren't present, then the pilot must add a left cyclic input.
In all the cases, the result is a left leaning of the rotor disk. Because the fuselage always follows the rotor, the helicopter will lean to the left when at a stationary hover. And that's Translating Tendency.
Thanks for watching and be sure to hit like and leave a comment! Safe flying.
If you're just getting started and want more information, pictures, and more explanations, I'd recommend reading the Rotorcraft Flying Handbook - amzn.to/2ifPlnZ
If you've already got a basic understanding, and want to further your professional helicopter education with advanced helicopter concepts, I'd recommend reading Cyclic and Collective, by Shawn Coyle - amzn.to/2ifQGLx

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@arthouston7361
@arthouston7361 6 жыл бұрын
As an instructor, I learned to "keep it simple." In your drawing, you have two force vector arrows on each side of the tail rotor location, and I think you should use just ONE arrow, showing the direction of force the tail rotor is producing. So, when the tail boom is trying to move clockwise as a result of reaction to the force being applied to the main rotor disc, you could show the force direction of the tail rotor countering the rotor disc reaction, preventing the tail boom from moving in that direction. In other words, "begin with the end in mind." the point of thrust is the job it is doing. In the case of the main rotor, the force is against the thrust bearing (and then the engine and transmission mounted to the airframe) to lift the aircraft. In the case of a plane, it is to pull the airplane forward on its bearings and engine mounts. The one arrow pointing in the direction of translating tendency might make it a little more clear. HTH.
@elelyon555
@elelyon555 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this, so much more helpful than the books!! 🙏🏼👍🏼😃
@frankjuniorjaspers6462
@frankjuniorjaspers6462 4 жыл бұрын
I'm learning for my ppl and i already learned so much from you and your video's. Thanks for all the lessons. you explain everything in a simple, understanding and clear way. Thank you for all the effort you make by making these video's. You are the BEST!!!
@amartin7607
@amartin7607 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos, I have a slightly different understanding of why the helicopter sits left skid low however. Interested to hear your thoughts on this. The disc tilt to overcome translating tendency will not necessarily cause the whole fuselage to roll as it should hang vertically under the disc. The roll is caused by the turning moment in the vertical plane, due to the tail rotor and main rotor being mounted at different heights. Helicopters with the tail rotor mounted high, so at the same level as the main rotor (eg Apache / Huey), shouldn't encounter much roll in the hover. Those with the tail rotor mounted low (eg Jet Ranger, Squirrel) will experience it more.
@rectorsquid
@rectorsquid 3 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting to me to see all of the aerodynamics you teach in your videos happening in my small RC helicopter. When I use the tail rotor to yaw in a hover, the translating tendency is very apparent and the helicopter slides sideways if the cyclic is not adjusted appropriately. I already knew about that tendency because it's a fairly obvious expected action. But your lesson on VRS was enlightening because I didn't previously understand why that tiny helicopter would accelerate downward when making a quick descent without forward speed. I have a private pilot license but I don't think I'll be lucky enough to put these lessons to use in a full-size helicopter anytime soon. At least I can be an armchair helicopter pilot flying the RC heli around now and then.
@gerwille
@gerwille 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your videos are very interesting and clearly explaining things ! Big up
@trevord.6545
@trevord.6545 4 жыл бұрын
As someone prepping for the SIFT your videos have been very helpful
@FRANKSNAKE71
@FRANKSNAKE71 6 ай бұрын
Clear concise explanation. Nicely done!
@panicoenduro
@panicoenduro Жыл бұрын
wish i could have the skills to explain so concisely and clearly, thanks for the videos mate, great work!!
@Munky332
@Munky332 2 жыл бұрын
I have a couple questions about this. I'm a fixed wing guy (Flight Engineer), but I do fly helo's virtually in DCS, and am considering going down the Helo PPL rabbit hole. Now, that is a simulation/game and obviously some liberties are taken as it can't model everything. One thing i've experienced is in the sim, the slip ball (the only real reference to slip, since "seat of the pants" doesn't exist... yet) -- seems to be slightly inaccurate, but I don't have any rotor experience so I'm trying to equate what is going on. UH-1H In forward flight, straight and level, 80kts cruising forward, 0 wind; Aircraft is in a slight crab left (aircraft drifting right from aimpoint), slight amount of left pedal, ball is center. IF I correct for the crab, by decreasing left pedal and even requiring a tad bit of RIGHT pedal, no more crab, but now the ball is showing a sideslip (ball slightly left)? Is this the effect of Translating Tendency? or is it something else? What would be the inputs to correct for this? I suppose one answer would be to just fly it in a crab, but I'm curious about the effects of the flight model.
@Bendigo1
@Bendigo1 2 жыл бұрын
You have fly with slight roll to keep it from crabbing. You can not really fly straight and level in the Huey. If you try the rotor and tail rotor will push you sideways. DCS is probably one of if not the best at modeling realistic aerodynamics and flight systems. So it is pretty much spot on with real life. As long as you run it on a computer that can keep up with all the calculations it has to do.
@adolfconradigharas439
@adolfconradigharas439 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much brother, this has helped me a lot. May GOD Bless you.
@Marrjuga
@Marrjuga 6 жыл бұрын
This channel
@dirtyislandman
@dirtyislandman 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love the videos! Going through my private at the moment on the GI bill, hoping to get my CFII at some point. Please keep dropping new content! Your videos are awesome!
@Kick1776
@Kick1776 3 жыл бұрын
How'd you manage private on GI? I know they told me I had to get private THEN they'd help commercial
@brettknowles3582
@brettknowles3582 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jacob, good video
@ericrobert5296
@ericrobert5296 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you!!
@tinamwende2572
@tinamwende2572 3 жыл бұрын
all in all good video thumbs up!
@fklotaloi
@fklotaloi 5 жыл бұрын
I fly RC helis I can see this effect as u r talking. Thanks for uploading. I did not know the terminology as it says. Thanks
@charliekeyes6206
@charliekeyes6206 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation, you doing an incredible job of explaining to us student Pilots. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your valuable time with all of us.
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
Charlie Keyes. Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad I can help.
@pichitpon5353
@pichitpon5353 3 жыл бұрын
I’m student pilot. thank a lot.
@tomoliver9544
@tomoliver9544 6 жыл бұрын
First comment ever and I’ve had KZfaq accounts for 6 years, great channel keep these coming helping with my ppl in uk! Clockwise spinning is the future (tell your friends) ;)
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Oliver. I'm glad you enjoy the channel! I'll stick with my CCW rotor, there's no need relearning how to fly haha.
@mariojorgepiresdasilva9956
@mariojorgepiresdasilva9956 3 жыл бұрын
Good vídeo 👍🏾🚁
@FNGZombies
@FNGZombies 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you already have this planned but could you do a video on weight and balance in the future? Your teaching style is definitely the best that I've seen so far, so maybe you could help some of us understand it a little better. Thank you.
@davidwallace5738
@davidwallace5738 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks, buddy.
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
Thunder Domb. I do actually have that in the list of topics to cover. Stay tuned!
@LockheedHav
@LockheedHav 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time, Jacob! Hope you are a flight instructor!
@oKevn
@oKevn Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@martellodaguerra
@martellodaguerra 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jacob, your videos are amazingly good and acurate so thanks in advance for your help. Just one doubt, during my training i was taught to compensate for the translating tendency on the right (i was flying an american chopper H269) using the antitorque left pedal but you said to use the cyclic wich also causes the rotor to tilt left. Isn’t more eficient and simple the use of the pedal instead of using the cyclic? Just asking, aside from that i love your videos (sorry for my not so well english Lol)
@anthonymccormick2029
@anthonymccormick2029 4 жыл бұрын
Could you explain why if the tail rotor gearbox is lower than the main rotor it forces a helicopter to hang left skid low? love the videos btw. Thanks!
@MikeKaz9
@MikeKaz9 6 жыл бұрын
I am a complete visual learner and THIS has been incredible.. Great JOB! Will you be getting into Enroute Flight, Navigation, Airspace? I would love to see those videos
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
MikeKaz9. Thanks! We'll see about those topics. Right now I'm focused on the aerodynamics side and leaning towards introducing some aeromedical factors.
@P222RL
@P222RL Ай бұрын
thank you for your video, at 3:22 can you explain why the whole helicopter will drift to the right ? suppose the trail rotor thrust has been compensated by the CWW of the main rotor , thank you
@user-og9gk3bj1l
@user-og9gk3bj1l 7 ай бұрын
I'm curious about the reason why the pitch goes up when flying forward in the hover and the phenomenon of the pitch going down after transfer lift
@matrix5062
@matrix5062 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained… I came across this info while looking for answers to RC Heli take off drifts and why one side lifts greater than the other: In experiments: If I mechanically offset the cyclic from its natural position relative to the stick to achieve vertical balanced hover, rather than through Pilot corrective action on the stick itself which then places the stick to its centred position for lifting and hovering which I find is an advantage. Question: Is this understanding applicable if in inverted flight hover...? Plus, what is the effect of offsetting the cyclic on the forward motion, especially at speed, would further compensation be required to maintain straight flight, or will the equal and opposite forces still be matched? Lastly: What about any effect to the tail gyro control through this mechanically altering the cyclic levelling placing it off-centre to achieving a centred flight stick for basic hover. Would they really do this in a 'real Heli'… As you noted: It was an option?
@Jusaxi
@Jusaxi 6 жыл бұрын
Niiice Job!! Can you do a video about loss of tail rotor efficiency? Also in a still air / hover turns? Thanks.
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
Jusaxi. Sure thing! I'll add it to the list.
@Jusaxi
@Jusaxi 6 жыл бұрын
That would be great. I'll be keeping an eye out for it. Keep up the good job. Helps us dumb fuc**s out A LOT!!! xD
@harleyd9857
@harleyd9857 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job explaining fir the non Huey pilots, that don’t get this.👍
@imdeg9821
@imdeg9821 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, slight confusion @ 3:36 though. You accidentally said left instead of saying right. I figured out it was a mistake but had me rethinking everything for a second lol.
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Degre. Great catch. Sorry for any confusion.
@rajeshkumar-be5er
@rajeshkumar-be5er 3 жыл бұрын
thank u sir
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel 5 жыл бұрын
I think you need to expand a little on why the fuselage dips left-skid low. It
@SMAforce1
@SMAforce1 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video explaining how the dual rotor system works? I’m really interested in how the foot controls work without a tail rotor.
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
Logan S. I'll definitely add that to list. I've got the next 10-12 videos mapped out right now that I want to upload first. But definitely appreciate the suggestions!
@SMAforce1
@SMAforce1 6 жыл бұрын
Helicopter Lessons In 10 Minutes or Less Awesome. I’m really enjoying the videos. Plus, they’re helping me out with my private rating so thank you.
@10oner
@10oner 4 жыл бұрын
So u would need to do left cyclic left pedal?
@realvanman
@realvanman 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I'll bet the aerodynamics for one of those dual rotor helicopters must be very complicated! (Like a Chinook?) Looks like it would be simple with everything opposite between the two rotors, but I'll bet it's not, as they interfere with each other?
@joshuafrey1886
@joshuafrey1886 6 жыл бұрын
could you do a video of autorotation aerodynamics?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
joshua frey. Sure thing! I'll add it to the lineup.
@waleedaj3450
@waleedaj3450 6 жыл бұрын
Hey jacob nice work just got a quick question on the ah-64 cause i fly ah-64 also isn't the transmission tilted to left thats why the trim ball will be out of tow centered line in the hdu symbology? And i know your a 64 ip can you give me any tips on the control touch
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
Waleed Aj. Unfortunately I can't discuss the specifics of the Apache on this forum.
@StalkR
@StalkR 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos, thank you! Quick question: at the end you explained that to compensate the rotor disk tilts left, but just to make sure I understood gyroscopic precession correctly, in reality it tilts front so that the effect manifests 90 degrees later on the left, is that right?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 4 жыл бұрын
No but I can see the confusion. Gyroscopic precession deals with an input introduced into a point on a rotating body. If you increase pitch in area of the rotor disk, it’s effects will take place 90 degrees later. But when you’re moving he entire rotor disk itself this does not apply. When you offset or tilt the transmission to the left, you in essence change the center of gravity. The helicopter is suspended below the rotor disk like a pendulum. When you shift the point it’s suspended from a little to the left, it stops the translating tendency. I hope this helps. Great question!
@StalkR
@StalkR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I see, it makes sense. I understand better GP now. The pendulum analogy is good too. Thanks for the reply and explanations!
@HeliZero
@HeliZero 5 жыл бұрын
Question: Leaning or Left Skid Low .. does that apply to both rigid heads and teetering rotor systems ... like on the R22 for example?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 5 жыл бұрын
HeliZero. It still applies. But its not pronounced/noticeable the same across all airframes.
@johnchurch2321
@johnchurch2321 6 жыл бұрын
Question: Do tandem and coaxial helicopters experience translating tendency?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
John Church. I haven't flown either types of helicopters. But my from research on the topic it doesn't appear to be a factor for those airframes due to one rotor canceling the effect of the other. I hope this helps.
@danthemanpatrick
@danthemanpatrick 5 жыл бұрын
is the tail rotor of the ch53 canted over to the left to counteract this translating tendency?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t speak specifically for the CH53. But some helicopters with that design say that it does produce a slight amount of lift and helps to adjust the attitude of the helicopter to make it more level.
@nighthunter1601
@nighthunter1601 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the helicopter (counterclockwise) yawing to the Right when u push the stick forward without moving the collective and the pedals and ? vice versa? Brothers i need answer
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen this yaw you’re talking about in the aircraft I’ve flown. It could be something related to your aircraft rigging.
@hasibulhasan4365
@hasibulhasan4365 3 жыл бұрын
But as per gyroscopic precession must is rigged forward not to left. Like bell 206 L4
@nickpepper4592
@nickpepper4592 4 жыл бұрын
Made it sound easy
@jiezhang542
@jiezhang542 6 жыл бұрын
So we got compensated for that tendency...That’s the reason why the helicopter Right Skid lift off first... I mean for the Anti-clockwise system
@ltauzzy4151
@ltauzzy4151 5 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb question but how does this combine with transverse airflow and how it already makes you dip right?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 5 жыл бұрын
Austin Taylor. Great question and many people get these confused. Transverse flow pushes the helicopter right during 10-20 knots while translating Tendency effect is due to a Hover. The biggest place you'll notice these 2 combined is the end of an approach. As the helicopter slows down you start to notice Transverse flow pushing the helicopter to the right. At the same time the pilot is cushioning to land by pulling in more power. This increase in power requires more left pedal to keep runway alignment and also produces translating Tendency. Both of these combine to push the helicopter right and you'll see pilots constantly landing right of the centerline.
@ltauzzy4151
@ltauzzy4151 5 жыл бұрын
Helicopter Lessons In 10 Minutes or Less ah I gotcha that makes sense! Awesome explanation as always! Thank you so much
@heli_adams
@heli_adams 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't another form of compensation be to mount the tail rotor in the plane of the m/r disc?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 6 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Adams. You are correct. Perfect examples are the CH-46 and CH-47 helicopters as well as the coaxial design.
@MsJhook
@MsJhook 6 жыл бұрын
3:38 you said left
@salehaljraid6499
@salehaljraid6499 5 жыл бұрын
Does the blades turn against the clockwise or with?
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10
@helicopterlessonsin10minut10 5 жыл бұрын
Sales aljraid. In this example and in most American designed helicopters they rotate counter clockwise.
@salehaljraid6499
@salehaljraid6499 5 жыл бұрын
Helicopter Lessons In 10 Minutes or Less , great, thank you so much.
@salehaljraid6499
@salehaljraid6499 5 жыл бұрын
Helicopter Lessons In 10 Minutes or Less I get a little confused cos I am training on the Guimble and it’s made in French. So its blades turn with the clockwise.
@dirkbastardrelief
@dirkbastardrelief 3 жыл бұрын
Are you Southern Data? You make me feel safe, like that ensighn who dated Data because of the way he talked... Data, is that you?
@dwightmoore-brown8303
@dwightmoore-brown8303 6 жыл бұрын
Archaic? Is that an “old” comment?
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