IdiotPlaysMinecraft oh, I heard 420, guess I was in that mindset.
@obi-wankenobi98714 жыл бұрын
Nice
@NoahHill-yn8rc4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@bimmerfan7294 жыл бұрын
Bummed not to see the new Kona Hei Hei in this test, but always love a Pink Pike field test.
@DethWshBkr4 жыл бұрын
It is a very surprisingly effective bike. When I started riding mine, it felt odd. But, after a significant amount of time adjusting the suspension, I find it to be a very capable bike. I do agree with the "you have to work harder" on downhills. It feels like a short travel XC bike on tech. But it doesn't feel completely out of place. It doesnt handle bashing or tech nearly as well as my Remedy, (of course) but it just works. At 6'0 and fat (225 lb), the Supercal is surprisingly enjoyable to ride.
@bike_somm4 жыл бұрын
Funniest comment by Mike... "For when you don't need that full 100mm of travel" lmathefo 👏🏼 the subtle art on comedy! Great review guys
@andycormier24754 жыл бұрын
They’re the Regis & Kathie Lee of XC bike reviews 🤣
@RickyScoles4 жыл бұрын
I raced the pro-caliber all last year, such a beast of a cross country bike.. now with a 60mi rear travel, will for sure help your body suffer less and give you more confidence on the descents. Great video pinkbike !
@lejake4 жыл бұрын
Really cool video! Also refreshing to see such competend women on pinkbike. Makes the test more credible and speaks to a wider audience :)
@Larpy19334 жыл бұрын
I’m hugely enjoying this series although I actually have no use whatsoever for this type of bike. (My days of XC racing are behind me.) The descriptions Sarah offers of climbing, descending, efficiency testing, etc. are EXCELLENT. I feel like I’ve -- ALMOST - ridden each of these bikes on your test track. KUDOS for an intelligent, entertaining series of tests. Also, I’m impressed that you’re not pulling any punches when a bike doesn’t measure up in some way during your evaluations. THANKS!!
@jasonmetz91513 жыл бұрын
I have my 9.8 being delivered today. Definitely a comforting review. I race endurance and ultra-endurance so this should be a great bike.
@thecoochiecrusader2185 Жыл бұрын
Do you know the difference between the 9.8 and 9.9?
@sauronbaggins1833 Жыл бұрын
@@thecoochiecrusader2185 Equipment. The frame its the same across all the range.
@ThunderStruckMTB4 жыл бұрын
Great interview you guys.... super laid back, and perfect teamwork.
@localsms4 жыл бұрын
So Sarah and Levy are the XCDC duo. Got it!
@raycoxphoto4 жыл бұрын
Tested one, loved it! Cape Epic weapon!
@charliebramich24744 жыл бұрын
When u see a hartail and ask to ride it and u bounce🤨
@bananasstuff33444 жыл бұрын
confused roadie noises
@69sound813 жыл бұрын
I tthink the review was thought from a Trail/enduro perspective when the bike ys clearly a CrossCountry bike. XC Bikes are not meant to be super tecnical not agresive on downhill sections. they are meant to go fast and be thrown around in gravel, softish forest trails, go through some moderate falls and jumps and be kept going. That being said, it is an incredible bike. It takes the very best of a HT and combines it with just enough rear suspention to make it more trail friendly, a bit more capable on downhill, a bit more comfortable on small rock trails, a bit more forgiving on jumps and falls. If you are expecting it to handle like a downhill or enduro bike it simply won't. Maybe with a 120mm fork it would be more forgiving and a better marriage between XC and trail oriented (the best on the most tecnically demanding XC tracks and the best on the more plain and forgiving trail tracks).
@dannym16424 жыл бұрын
Grim donut.
@noahwiebe25583 жыл бұрын
indeedlydoo>
@keithhannigan85074 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Scott Spark in this bike review!!
@patrickfler14 жыл бұрын
The Spark is the best bike between a fully and a hardtail. Comfort and capability on descents and the stiffnes on climbs is just Bonkers. Got the 900 RC Team in Green and Loving it. Sure there is the Top Fuel but top fuel just isnt as fast and definetly on the pure trail and descent side.
@fwmtb3 жыл бұрын
They said they didn't include the spark RC because it came out 4 years ago
@aimrane75124 жыл бұрын
Hi, I think there is a small error 🤫🤫at 2:22 for the spur X01 transition😉😉😅😅
@anthonywalters74344 жыл бұрын
I don’t think pounds are equal to kilograms... just a hunch
@pinkbike4 жыл бұрын
Oops! So. Many. Numbers. Should've been 11.22 kg.
@KetzalSterling4 жыл бұрын
Next level MTB review content, well done team. Keep it up :)
@BIIIKES Жыл бұрын
Mike always looks thrilled having to review Trek bikes.
@jasonkroll95324 жыл бұрын
Blazing up those hills, and wow, able to handle the downs with 60mm rear.
@aaroncoorts43134 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no interest in xc bikes whatsoever but I will still watch all of these because I love Pinkbike
@thomasadhiyudono4 жыл бұрын
Finally... Pinkbike review Supercaliber
@elvay68474 жыл бұрын
While I could agree that the prices of a new bicycle are becoming ridiculous, we're looking at a cross country RACE bike here. You probably won't find more capable mountain bikes for their intended discipline than a high end XC race bike. That technology and weight weenie'ness comes with a hefty price tag. And when you hop on one and point it up a steep technical climb, or pop out of the saddle and sprint by an overbiked endurobro like he/she is standing still, you understand what you're paying for.
@molybdnum4 жыл бұрын
But if you're an XC racer, and you already have HT and FS options... if you can get that "passing endurbros" result on a $3000 topfuel or procaliber, why wouldn't you buy those instead? And if you're chasing RACE results, these results suggest you're still going to want a HT for some courses, a FS for others, and then MAYBE the Supercaliber for a handful of in-between laps on very particular routes - so a cool $6000 extra for a couple of seconds a lap a couple times a year. I guess the question is - are you racing at a level where that's an acceptable tradeoff?
@MrStruggle04 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it’s like looking to buy a race car, it’s simply a waste of money for leisure use (unless you’re rich lol)
@christocr3 жыл бұрын
@@molybdnum As much as I like Trek bikes, they tend to be heavy for a given price point. I just got a Scott Spark RC 900 that is six pounds lighter than the Top Fuel I compared it to, and I only paid an extra five hundred dollars. The Top Fuel was nice and looked killer, but just too heavy. I also have a Trek Procaliber (hardtail). It is my favorite bike, but even though it is pretty light, for the price I'd have expected it to be a bit lighter than it is. That's my one complaint about Trek bikes--they tend to run heavy. Scott (or Cannondale or Specialized) XC bikes by comparison are way lighter for a given price point. I was lusting over a slightly modified Scott Scale locally that was in the 19 to 20 pound range.
@skyworks16213 жыл бұрын
My Procalibre 9.7 is 1 month old and already 2 times on the service since front fork in not working and has to be changed so they gave me Supercalibre 9.7. Nice bike. Tomorrow is time to test what it can do and how much time and comfort it can make up.
@letsallgetalong54994 жыл бұрын
I went with 17,half inch frame the nx version all I could afford as I'm a mere porper! I'm also 5 ft 7. 12 half stone! Project 1 is epic!
@peterides95684 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, this has been a great series. You definitely have me looking at the ancient Giant NRS frame hanging on my wall and wondering where I can get decent 26 inch parts for it... I want to go "wind it through the trees" as you put it!
@w12742paulo2 жыл бұрын
I've bought a Supercaliber last year and used for 8 months. First, I should say this bike climbs as promissed, but to descend, it is terrible, no control and not safe (due to 69o head tube). Also, I faced lot of issues with Trek components. This is fact my major complaint: rear tire is gone after 1.200 miles. The bike was delivered by a Trek store without proper spoke wheel adjustement, and one got broken when riding. Bontrager hubs are horrible as, in any contact with water, it damages the bearings (replaced them twice in 8 months!!, the two wheels),. The head tube also very susceptible to watter damage and intrusion. Painting is beautiful, but very fragile, don't touch anything that get damaged. The rear chain stain frame cracked after 2 months of use (replaced by Trek under warranty). So, I shold say I am not happy with Trek as a brand nether with Supercaliber.
@winklertribe52684 жыл бұрын
Another great episode!
@djsercy58794 жыл бұрын
After taxes, Supercaliber 9.9 Project One with the top-end components almost rivals the price of a brand new Corolla
@JessePoage4 жыл бұрын
Dylan-James Sercy wtf? The cheapest Camry starts at $24,425 before tax. How much are they?
@djsercy58794 жыл бұрын
@@JessePoage I meant Corolla. The most expensive Corolla I saw was about $19k (MSRP). I saw it last year while doing research for an essay and I got the two mixed up. Still, a used Corolla and a Supercaliber 9.9 AXS Project One could run about 11k-12k if you got all of the most expensive options. The current Supercaliber is half the price, thankfully
@thebenlyshop3 жыл бұрын
yes but the Supercaliber is so much more fun
@vomErsten3 жыл бұрын
@@thebenlyshop I nabbed a 1990 ZR-1 for just $2,000 more than a Supercaliber. As much as I enjoy MTB, not sure I'd say it's entirely more fun than a high-revving engine mated to a sublime 6-speed transmission that generates hilarious sensations. Probably about equal.
@josephlee87694 жыл бұрын
How does the bike end up with the 2nd best time, if it comes in 3rd in the overall climb and 4th in the descent? What constituent segments make up the loop for the overall time?
@christocr3 жыл бұрын
What's left??? Flats. Faster on the flats.
@Jimbob-eu4gd2 жыл бұрын
The other bikes might have got like 2 on climb but like 6th on the descent maybe
@noonster553 жыл бұрын
I replayed the part where you went screaming out of control down that steep crazy section in the intro several times, so funny!
@Detroit3Pistons3 жыл бұрын
The dudes a maniac I love it
@alecfotsch35334 жыл бұрын
My dream MTB is the weird offspring of a Supercaliber and the Stache!
@TheBassallyear1004 жыл бұрын
i love my stache but i spend most of my time chasing my cousin around on his canyon lux and he just crushes me! i have been super intrigued to see this group test because as much as it pains me, i'm pondering having to let that lovely mid-fat carbon move on to a new home.
@alecfotsch35334 жыл бұрын
@@TheBassallyear100 try trading bikes, maybe he's just fast. My buddy rides a canyon lux while I ride a salsa beargrease set up 29+ with 3" bontrager xr2 tires and I'm the one pulling away from him... Long story short, bikes make a difference but the rider makes more difference.
@TheBassallyear1004 жыл бұрын
@@alecfotsch3533 yep I did that. i live in Florida and it's the tight, twist, rooty stuff that is most apparent. i was substantially quicker on the twitchy XC bike. downhill i think he will crush me regardless of the bike - i'm just useless there but enjoy it none the less!
@ElevationEveryWeekend4 жыл бұрын
I want! But $$$$! Sticking with my fatbikes for now🤙🏻🤙🏻
@frigoooo4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great vid and the congenial testers :-)
@rubenvor4 жыл бұрын
Supercaliber was Gary Fishers top bike a few centuries ago.
@danhammerland19944 жыл бұрын
Psyched to see Sarah on here! MORE FEMALE PRESENTERS!!!!!
I would be interested to see how this bike will compare to the 2021 Orbea Oiz. 100mm suspension package to have a better comparison, maybe the one with 120mm suspension as well?
@isaks32433 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a "budget" version of this bike, they could call it the "Sportcaliber" with an aluminium front triangle and a carbon rear triangle. that could signifficantly reduce the price of the bike to a level where someone like me would actually buy one
@guyd40674 жыл бұрын
Great series. Great presenters. Great bikes.
@brianwright95143 жыл бұрын
As an aging hardtail coinasouer (yeah...I meant that spelling), I really want this bike.
@thebenlyshop3 жыл бұрын
You are not alone.
@Detroit3Pistons3 жыл бұрын
That 60mm of rear travel must be nice. I love Hardtails but a little bit of rear suspension sounds amazing....
@AceGoodheart2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@andrewbell38224 жыл бұрын
Anyone hear her voice break when she mentioned the price or is it just me
@kalekalekale85494 жыл бұрын
I mean who’s voice wouldn’t crack at a bike that costs $9,499
@TLFaun4 жыл бұрын
@@kalekalekale8549 My Kia and Spectral together are cheaper :/
@djsercy58794 жыл бұрын
The Supercaliber 9.9 AXS is a flat $9,999 if I remember correctly
@kornofilo4 жыл бұрын
No, it's stupid paying so much for a frame made in China that costs less than 500 to make if you are not doing top level competition.
@andrewbell38224 жыл бұрын
@@kornofilo it's not the price to manufacture tbh its the r and costs and quality control that you pay for
@jeffgould31313 жыл бұрын
Great review! Could you please comment on this climbing/descending versus the Top Fuel?
@backcountyrpilot3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Foster_B3 жыл бұрын
Supercaliber is better at climbing but worse at descending.
@Shawn-in-da-Canyon6 күн бұрын
I want to put gravel bars on one of these. That would make a great video.
@mattiasandersson34444 жыл бұрын
One of my first bikes was a KHS softtail, dont remmember it´s modelname but it was like a hardtail with a rubbber-thing on the seatstays who went togenther before the seattube who givé´d about 1" travel on the rear wheel. But that frame was a steelframe for the bend in the chainstays & seatstays during compression. This was in 2002 or 2003 i think...Big difference compared to a alu hardtail but it began to wobble at 35 km/h so i suspect the frame was bent or something...I like Gary Fishers bikes better , both the Supercaliber and my Sugar-2 full suspension i had. That geometry was wonderful. Sooo agile everywhere
@claytonschupp83944 жыл бұрын
Put a coil on it
@0lioderso4 жыл бұрын
Texas tx rigger 04 🤦🏼♂️
@CatKingEbola4 жыл бұрын
@@0lioderso whoooosh
@sebastiankmec4724 жыл бұрын
Oli Hah, a XC rider
@0lioderso4 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiankmec472 me? 😂 i ride DH and Freeride and definitly not XC 😂
@0lioderso4 жыл бұрын
@Philip Klemmer who df asked u? Stupid 8 yr old kid
@Squasher264 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch this
@pjpineda60324 жыл бұрын
its all about the bike skill of the rider no matter what the bike is
@timotheyszczepanski66444 жыл бұрын
Nice head angle
@richcole39314 жыл бұрын
Great review. One detail missing. The Trek has only 60mm travel, but its claimed frame weight (1,933g) is heavier than bikes with 100mm travel (Scott Spark = 1849g). How does this factor into comparisons?
@rubindublone59324 жыл бұрын
Would love to have the next field test with enduros from 3500- 4500
@dansmith60693 жыл бұрын
gorgeous looking steed!
@Dederamadhan1232 ай бұрын
Im 100kg..is it strong enough to handle my weight?
@mrvwbug44234 жыл бұрын
No Scott Spark RC or Giant Anthem? Would figure you'd get last years world champion bikes in the test (Schurter and Courtney were both on Scott Spark RC for XCO, and Paez was on an Anthem for XCM).
@tafit844 жыл бұрын
So if I was looking for a bike that is the middle ground between a hardtail and a full suspension, would that be the bike? :)
@RoyalRhino4 жыл бұрын
If you're looking to take a mortgage on your bike. Yes
@Jsemmler74 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t something like a 160/100mm 64HTA exist? It could be between a hardcore enduro FS and hardtail...just surprised we haven’t seen the concept.
@jesseremax2 жыл бұрын
Great vid.. Curious what size are the Schwalbe tires you put on the bike?
@AceGoodheart2 жыл бұрын
🤔 I'm 5'10" and I decided on a medium. Should I have gone with a large? No medium/large option for me. I've been riding a medium bike for the last 20 years though.
@RNicknackpaddywhack3 жыл бұрын
Just for the entertainment of the viewers I would like to see you take this bike to whistler with the saddle completely up in climbing position.
@happy_keats4 жыл бұрын
Cool Duo :)
@calvinyou5728 Жыл бұрын
Cannondale 2013 Scalpel 26er: Yes? New kind hum?😂
@christocr3 жыл бұрын
I must be the only person left on earth who prefers 720mm over wider bars. Wider bars, to me, makes me feel like I'm driving a semi truck.
@thebenlyshop3 жыл бұрын
No you are not the only one. I much prefer narrower bars. Most of the people I ride with do also.
@andrzejzielinski4193 жыл бұрын
Trek Superfy, 700mm bars ;-)
@casadomiguel2 жыл бұрын
Let's see; I don't know much about PROS & CONS, but correct if wrong but I think Yolanda Neff won the GOLD 🥉 WITH THIS BIKE.. 😎 So she was #1 descending, ascending, fastest laps, with this bike..
@tonydoberman213 жыл бұрын
I just (2 days ago) cracked the rear sub frame on my supercaliber 9.8 - sick bike but I broke it haha. Trek gave me a remedy for a loaner and I ordered a slash while they fix it LOL
@rokusaburo62573 жыл бұрын
How did you crack it? I ordered this bike so I am curious, lol.
@AceGoodheart2 жыл бұрын
I was worried about that thin seat stay.
@KnigthMare694 жыл бұрын
It's a nice bike, but if the S-works epic has more travel and less weight, I don't see why not getting it over the Supercaliber
@1bojanbojan4 жыл бұрын
Badazz bike BUT prices of BIKES are ridiculous!
@TheBassallyear1004 жыл бұрын
look at the flex in those flex stays on the huck to flat!
@lauritzpieterse62474 жыл бұрын
You guys should also review the merida 96 team or 9000 one of the best bikes for the price in my opinion and weighs absolutely nothing.
@Acrata494 жыл бұрын
Goodyear anda Groovy video.
@OugaBoogaShockwave4 жыл бұрын
nicze, I think i might make a TREK in the future ! But going full suspension i think i'll go honda CRF125F MSRP starting from $4,099 it's cheaper & WAY better suspension !
@caiobriski88413 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thank you. What is the difference between SuperCaliber and Top Fuel in your view? pros / cons
@Foster_B3 жыл бұрын
Top fuel is more trail-oriented, like a down-country bike. It will be a better descender and a more comfortable ride, but overall will probably probably slower on less technical and more climby trails. However, if the trails in your area are more gnarly, it may be the better choice.
@RepresentWV4 жыл бұрын
Ok but how do you know the 40mm isn't too much for the 100mm and the 500mm and the 1040mm will mess with the 2mm and how many chainstays and 643mm travel and how many 60mm brake rotor 10mm and the thru axle 30mm?
@joseperezpaz99863 жыл бұрын
Dream Bike!
@obi-wankenobi98714 жыл бұрын
I could get a VW Passat with under 100.000km or a trek supercaliber. Its just so hard to decide these days...
@obi-wankenobi98714 жыл бұрын
Also why does this bike not even have AXS for 10 grand?
@andriimykhailov71104 жыл бұрын
When you test the new Orbea oiz 2020???
@kuyabhudsletsdothis40793 жыл бұрын
i love that bike
@Pienimusta4 жыл бұрын
Does it still have the Gary Fisher design spirit?
@primoholzfeller88444 жыл бұрын
Sarah is pure xc Racer!
@erwanrc81174 жыл бұрын
I would like to get an AXS groupset for this price ! Canyon lux AXS cost about 9000$
@noahbirdrevolution4 жыл бұрын
I built a hardtail couple months ago and was like, "lemme tryout the new wide handlebar fad" at 780mm. After first long ride I cut to 755ish, and after 2nd long ride and a few city rides I am down to 720. lol Wide bars are awkward and I am old.
@sylvainleith68714 жыл бұрын
Great review guys! How a 120 mm fork would do vs 100 mm?
@vomErsten3 жыл бұрын
It would slacken the head angle and the seat angle while lowering the bottom bracket. Might actually be pretty fun.
@AndrewGrease3 жыл бұрын
Did that recently - you need to pair that up with a 10mm longer stem and sth like a -17/-25 stem drop. Once you do that the bike plows through anything.
@irinaheck51363 жыл бұрын
2:56 Voice crack 😂
@Fever19844 жыл бұрын
That price doesn't add up 3.5k frame and then 5.5k for fox 32's, sram xx1 and carbon wheels. I would expect AXS for that price.
@Bobo-bw1uc4 жыл бұрын
How would u adjust rear
@eadinize30454 жыл бұрын
Soft tail seems like a good name for it cause it's not quite a full sus nor a hardtail
@youtubeaccount90584 жыл бұрын
8:53 Huh. The results on the timed lap are not great. Full climb, 3rd place out of 4 and 5.75% worse than 1st? Listening to everything said in the rest of the video you would not predict that. 5% is 3 minutes on an hour, that's a lot to dismiss as rider inconsistency.
@peglor4 жыл бұрын
Those results were kind of embarrassing for a no holds barred race bike from a 'premium' manufacturer to be honest. Still the best bike ad I've ever seen though.
@b-manz4 жыл бұрын
Honestly you can’t take uphill times too seriously. Different day or different time of the day, how you felt after that pie for lunch. Downhill time I think are far more accurate. Talk to any roadie and their power output on a ‘bad day’ can be better than on their ‘good day’.
@youtubeaccount90584 жыл бұрын
@@b-manz In the intro video they also said they did a steady climb at a constant 300w using a power meter, although this video doesn't report that result unless I missed it.
@Foster_B3 жыл бұрын
The timed lap is a joke. I guarantee if they were to repeat the tests, the times would vary immensely. There are just too many factors at play.
@MrAsimomytis4 жыл бұрын
A canyon Lux should cost half the money still enjoy 90% of the fun
@willbennett71074 жыл бұрын
This bike isn’t about fun it’s about racing and speed
@mmb40634 жыл бұрын
Matthieu vd Poel was the quickest on his lux.
@mircea5013 Жыл бұрын
Lol the lux is faster 😂
@alvinlacerna94193 жыл бұрын
nice bike that is my dream bike
@macdaddy16174 жыл бұрын
All I know the guys who have this bike on Long Island NY are super FAST!!!!
@klugehf4 жыл бұрын
Super cali(ber) fragilistic expialidocious
@joshuasamonte16824 жыл бұрын
some day :)
@chrisboling4 жыл бұрын
Where’s the other Mike
@ifonly26754 жыл бұрын
Under your bed
@mackanneb15913 жыл бұрын
5,7 is not 177 cm. Its more 167 cm. Im 5,9 wich is 176 cm. So how is this in size???
@Declanhammerstone4 жыл бұрын
New name? supertraction not supercaliber
@owenkennedy78544 жыл бұрын
Who else said nice at the head angle mention. I won’t lie I totally did and I hate myself for it but whatever.
@meteormedia70214 жыл бұрын
I'd have bought this already, if it wasn't so damn expensive:/
@joseperezpaz99863 жыл бұрын
You & I both! 😂😫
@guyd40674 жыл бұрын
Nice RM's
@alansmith47344 жыл бұрын
LMAO ... $9+K price! Trek should put an Apple decal on it!
@alecfotsch35334 жыл бұрын
The $700 apple pro wheels would look great on this! 🤣
@elvay68474 жыл бұрын
It may be designed in the USA and/or partially assembled in the USA, but I assure you that you will not find a "Made in the USA' sticker slapped on the the BB shell of that frame. Same goes almost every other carbon bike available in the USA, including boutique brands
@gundamnit35944 жыл бұрын
@@Kaspurr84 My trek has a made in Taiwan sticker on it so....
@obi-wankenobi98714 жыл бұрын
They could sell the iBike stand for 999$
@stibra1014 жыл бұрын
Please test Trek Spark 900
@AceGoodheart2 жыл бұрын
Scott?
@junkandcrapamen4 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'10" and an 18.5" frame is almost always a bit too big. I don't understand this sizing.
@Mike-kl2cj4 жыл бұрын
I’m also 5’10 and the trek 18.5 feels perfect.
@junkandcrapamen4 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-kl2cj Makes no sense for it to fit someone 5'7".
@tylerdm18424 жыл бұрын
Jeff I'm 5' 10" and own a remedy 18.5. The bike fits great but I definitely wouldn't want to go smaller so it makes sense that she also rides a 18.5.