"Once Axanar is finished, we'll do a follow up video" [Cries]

That's what I like to see. Trekkers, actors, series producers, skilled artists, and anyone else involved, banding together to make a new Star Trek series that won't be corrupted by Hollywood execs and kakistocratics.

"What happens when those guys get uppity" is basically the best description I have ever heard for contingency plans.

I cant believe that no-one made the point that HMS Dreadnought was designed and built within a Year and a day. It made all other warships obsolete over night.

Nice episode. But it was USS Yorktown that was damaged in the Battle of Coral Sea and was repaired just days later to fight at Midway. Enterprise was key in that battle though. Just a bit of trivia. ;-) Cheers and great job all!!!

I just watched "Prelude to Axanar" last night (dunno how come I missed it till now) and it was awesome.

I watched this a few times while drawing the official cutaway. I love that I can look up vessels here to learn more about them as I am drawing them. Thank you TREKYARDS

Good episode, Axanar is going to be awesome!

Axanar Ares episode. Nice to hear Alec talk about our baby. I is nice to see some of my schematics in this even my pre-Tobias NCC-1450 schematic. Would of love to be part of this. We need to get a designer podcast going on this.

On the performance of the Ares-class, versus the Constitution-class: As the Ares is described as a "pure warship," it may be that it was built *only* for war, and not for exploration. (Maybe this is why we don't see it in the JJ films, or on TOS.) No science labs, arboretums, rec rooms, or guest quarters. But the Constitution was built to do BOTH jobs, and while it boasted modest gains in speed, power, etc., its other advances were in its extra facilities, the sophistication of its computer systems, and its onboard living conditions. So its battlefield performance and warp speed may not be too far ahead of its predecessor.

Probably the best Trekyards episode so far. Nice one!

Defiant was the first ship with Quantum Torpedoes and the first ship to fire them (according to canon) in 2371 While First Contact occurred in 2373. Sovereign was launched in 2372. Going further back Defiant was designed 2367 four years prior to it's second launch date (2371).

It's a shame that the production is encountering so many problems. Regardless of whose fault it is, Alec really does seem to give a shit about getting the movie right.

If I might point out, in WWII the P-51 was put out in record time, and the original product was mediocre until the addition of the Rolls Royce engine which turned it into a winner in the sky. So yeah, definitely agree with the urgency aspect. =) Loved Prelude to Axanar, cant wait for the actual film!

Anyone else smile when they saw the Defiant?

🖖😎👍Very cool and nicely well done and very informatively executed and explained indeed guys, And Axanar is truly that of the original series at its finest and best ever👌.

Great interview. Nice job by all in keeping it on topic and Alec for explaining the logic behind the designs.

Operation Leaf Blower: The US invasion of Canada. But as far as upgrading a ship in war to be minor, IJN's Ise was modified by removing her after turrets, adding ballast, a rudimentary hanger and flight deck during the war. USS Colorado, USS Maryland, USS West Virginia, USS New Mexico and others were heavily modified during the war as well.

11:08 Yes, Capitalists who have stated on many occasions that they have evolved beyond the need for money. O.o

Happy to watch this in depth study (if you will) on the Ares class starship. Right now, she is easily one of my favorite ships. Love Axanar all together.

Your best bet to typify Tellarite technology is to make it metallurgy and alloy related. I think they are subsurface dwellers on their home planet and their economy is primarily mining related. Consider them for manufacturing methods, metallurgy, ship structural systems. Andorians, energy management, phasers, power distribution systems from the warp core to other systems. The Andorian tech makes sense when we consider they come from an ice planet, so heating and artificial energy systems would have developed more with them than other races.

I would LOVE to ask two questions to Alec Peters and also have him do an AMA on /r/startrek subreddit! First question will be how deep will Axanar get into how the core Federation member worlds helped in the design and how their respective fleets (Andorian Imperial Guard etc.) were integrated into Starfleet? I would LOOOOVE to see them helping out and finally accepting the overpoweredness of UNITY that the Federation experiment brings and any scenes towards them helping out different races in battles would be beyond awesome. What moves me so much and makes me fall in love with Trek is the fact that species SO DIFFERENT in nature and culture put aside all differences and help each other out completely (not just an alliance of convenience). Always brings a tear to my eye. And I already forgot my second question..

I would add that for a pure warship, Ares class should at least have a crew of 200 or more. around 50 security and 90 damage control teams split to three shifts of 30. and 60 for ship operation also needs to be split in to three shifts. For warships in history up until now, they always have more crews than science or cargo vessels. Damage control teams normally takes a sizable part of the crew.

Great to hear the shout out to Star Fleet Battles. I started playing that simulation in the mid 80s, and always thought it would be a great influence for Star Trek battles.

Ares is such a cool, sleek design

Thanks for this channel. I love speculative engineering, especially Trek stuff.

I love these guys. A Star Trek movie produced, written, and directed by Trek fans for Trek fans, not by the Hollywood bean counters. Hollywood still doesn't get it when it comes to Star Trek and what it's about, these guys do.

Ares class for its short tenure of service was the definitive battleship of its time for starfleet, and it was the answer to the at that time dreaded D-6 and D-7 Klingon battlecruisers.it also became the basic hull design for many other Starfleet ship classes as well.

When you were mentioning the Klingon torpedo spam, I was reminded of that Klingon "Strategy of Least Respect" from Prelude. I'm not gunna try to type out the Klingon word for it, no way I'd be able to pull that off, but maybe close range torpedo spam with dubious targeting IS the strategy of least respect?

Great job!

My god, Trekkers love menutia trivial detail... but then again, that's what makes me a Trekker! XD

I like this series of vids talking about different ship classes, could you do an episode on the Nebula-class my favorite ship design :)

nice job i love the side by side graphic love the klingon ships

such a great video, sorry I found it so many years later. At least i did find it! :)

The ship fit into the era, the plot and actors met all the "Duck" criteria too. The fact this never really came out severely damaged my childhood. My second one....for what it is worth. Any organization that is armed is constantly looking for a sharper, more durable rock to smack the enemy with. Even if they are only making prototypes that can go into production.

that was really great!! Really enjoyed it!! I hope we get to see this movie someday!

I like the idea of the pulse phasers being a CIWS system.

Fun Fact: It was the Yorktown that was repaired in 48 hour for the battle of midway. Lexington was lost a the battle of the Coral Sea.

It was the Yorktown at midway that was given 48 hours to fix. The Yorktown was dry dock May 27, They went back to sea 48 hours after the Enterprise and Hornet left port.

wow i love this show

Great Show...

In my headcanon as soon as the war started Admiral slater ordered the development of a new generation of starships. Ares, Constitution, Miranda, maybe more. As soon as Rameriez took over he said there no point having all these ships if the war is over before they’re ready. He pulled all resources from other projects and directed them to mass producing Ares, gambling they could turn the tide. It paid off for Starfleet but the downside was work on the Constitution was severely delayed and other designs too.

Honestly, the Ares is one of my favorite ships. I wish it was canon, cause the design is so sleek and predatory, like a shark. Id love to have this ship in STO. The thing I like about it over the Centaur is the secondary hull

It was the USS Yorktown, CV 5. The Yorktown was damaged during the battle of Coral Sea, just a week before in late May. She had a 48 hours turn around to fix the flight deck with men working day and night. Two days later, she headed west to Midway, where ironically, she was sunk.

Anyone who says starships would not fight up close and personal has utterly failed to think it through. There could be no long-range combat in Trek. The technology makes it impossible. "Sir, they are firing at us from 25km!" "Go to warp 2" End of fight. Unless you can hide both your ship and your weapon, or make your weapon appear on target (within shielding, no less) instantly, all your target has to do is unass the area via Warp. As such, all combat will be of the "knife-fight-in-a-phonebooth" variety (relatively speaking). As far as misses are concerned, you can bet torpedoes are being jammed and decoyed like mad, while any kind of beam weapon is always going to be entirely subject to the initial aim. Many people fail to realize space combat at high sublight velocities would come with an entirely new set of tactics and problem like none we've seen before. Fighting at warp speeds would be pretty iffy, and way too close for comfort, no matter the technology.

Well it seems to my opinion that the Ares class was started off as a side project originally...Let's say a group of young up and coming ship designers working at the San Francisco Shipyard, some whom are civilians other are Starfleet reservists for argument sake. These persons have friends/colleagues, family members or spouses that are active duty Starfleet or working for the U.F.P. directly, 'managed' to get read in on or a hold of a strategic intelligence analysis and forecast for the next decade based on current diplomatic/politics, trade/commerce and military capabilities of the know major and regional powers in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants, and the outlook wasn't good. So this band of engineers got together and said "What can we do?" So they started to bounce ideas of possible tactical refits to existing designs at first during lunch breaks and weekends, but eventually came to the conclusion if Starfleet starts taking loses in ships and crews, what's going to replace them? The Ares class began as unofficial thought exercise initially to build a light to mid-size cruiser class vessel that was completely combat oriented, using as many currently available/proven off the shelf components and subsystems as possible to address the logistical challenges of war time shipbuilding, accelerate development from concept to final approved design and construction in as little time as possible. The Ares was kept on the back-burner as it were, take down off the shelf, plans brushed off and updated with latest emerging technologies every couple of months, ready and waiting in the wings should the need arise.

Starfleet had other wars, including the Romulan War, that could have kickstarted early Ares designs, that were dropped/mothballed when the conflict ended, then pulled back out for the Axanar conflict.

I really like the way you put Trekyards together. Who wrote the soft ware code for the screen lay out. Have try you local Access T.V. station, give then a video copy, in the format they broadcast over cable. And your Trekyards" will be monthly to people who don't have computer, but have cable T.V. NOTE: where I am, ComCast send you their monthly looks bill, broken down line by line, where you will find a line item for a fee, to charge to you to fund the Local Access T.V, station. Don't have a cable local access T.V. station. Then start one up. I was involve in getting are local Access T.V. station off the ground. Over the years more tech. people came on board. Now we have what must like a real Network television station. The station even has a paid staff. But many people come in looking to help out for free .

I think the Ares-theory makes a lot of sense. Starfleet wasn't founded as a military organization but they weren't naive, it's very likely they commissioned a design team, supplied with the latest Intel on the combat technology available to multiple potential enemy fleets, and tasked them with designing a series of warship concepts that would lay the groundwork for future doomsday scenarios. Remember this is taking place a few years after the war with the Romulans so by the time the Klingons attacked Starfleet ships were probably already better armed than previous generations had ever been so the fact that they took such a hard beating for so long probably came as a nasty surprise to the Federation which is why they couldn't just start rolling out Ares-class ships right away - they needed to go back to the drawing board and update their design concepts to cope with the weapons and tactical systems of the D7's that were kicking their asses.

Thinking about Axanar still disappoints me. I really wanted to see that movie.

i loved this,very intresting insights only treekies would know.

I've always felt that the Enterprise-C was such a handsome-looking class.

Good stuff.....really appreciate what you guys do. Small piece of advice....and maybe I missed it....but you should link part II inside your vid (just my opinion)

Shovel ready!

It was the Yorktown that returned after the battle of Coral Sea to Pearl Harbor, she was patched up in less than 3 days

Regarding pulse phasers: While the damage output per second might be lower, I see the main advantage in better heat management (less likely to overheat during prolonged use), which would be very important for a vessel supposed to fight in larger scale battles. Maybe even the ability to work under low power conditions?

Yorktown was damaged at Coral Sea the Lexington sunk. Combat damage to the Yorktown was estimated at 3 months repair time. Admiral Nimitz cut that time down by flooding here with workers that sailed with her when she left to go to Midway.

I honestly like the look of the Geronimo much better, Though The Ares reminds me of a Scarab beetle. Which are kind of cool.

he mentioned Star Fleet Battles... so cool

honestly i actually beleived the ares was gonna be slightly faster than consitituion, since theres simply more power available and a smaller profile needing a smaller field.

Tellarite like to argue. Maybe they are underground dwellers as well. I would suggest metallurgy and communications? They will talk you to death until the opponent fires, then they will latch on and fight to the bitterest end.

my explanation of pulsed phasers, would be a lower power drain and superior cool down rate would allow for a more continuous rate of fire at the cost of having a lower per hit damage output. which could be believed to be a bonus in battle. like having machine guns and cannons on a fighter jet.

I like how they diss and ignore Enterprise series with that wimp Captain Archer with Axanar .

Color is different because of the use of micro drives not rocket powered as in Enterprise. The drive hub is what allow sub light speeds or above warp speeds on the torpedoes. .

Cool design!

The Ares Class is a beautiful ship overall i like the designs of the ships in Axanar, fleshed out and completely true to TOS era. Its ashame CBS couldn't work with the creators of Axanar.

it was the USS Yorktown CV-5. 3 months>72 hours.

It looks like what the enterprise e would’ve looked like in TOS, but with the nassels pointed downwards.

It looks like a precursor to the Centaur-class.

IMO TOS era phasers are blue because they are extremely close to Andorian tech. The reason they change over time is because they get more and more human.

Did I miss the 1st episode And if I did where do I go to see it

guys since you do episodes on STO ships could you do one on the Iconian ships its really hard to get any details on them

Also, The Discovery is often referred to so far as a Ship of War. Is it that the Discovery was refitted for war and the Ares was built ground up for war?

According to Memory Beta, Tellarites love to argue, and seek differing opinions to their own for their own sake. So maybe they can anticipate the Klingon mind set and lead their commanders into traps? Alternatively, they are supposed to be proud of their propulsion, so they might favour speed and manoeuvrability, launching hit and run or joust attacks.

It was the USS Yorktown CV-5

12:05 24 phaser banks on the saucer they had them mounted on the bottom surface as well. Thankyou for calling them phaser banks. Too many people have been calling the 23rd century weapons arrays. Array is a completely different system and not in use till the 24th century.

The 4 months - 4 days has parallels with the real world carriers during world war 2. I think the Yorktown.

I'm looking for information on Starfleet/Klingon vessels during TOS. Specifically what class of vessels were available prior to the first season. (I.e. light cruisers, frigates, science etc.) I'm writing a short story and any information you can send me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michael.

Constitution class can go warp 9.It was in "The Enterprise Incident" after Kirk beams back aboard with the stolen cloaking device he orders them to warp 9.

the engines are just so massive compared to the rest of the ship.

profile is important when youre trying to optically target the enemy but considering how in this case, they would be trying to target the enemy using comuperterized targeting systems so whats important would be the enemies electronic signature, sensors would not establish a lock at the the distances were taking into consideration with the opponents physical characteristic but would target an enemy's engine 'bloom'. At close range, the ship's cross section would be relevant but at the ranges contacts would be made in the Star Trek universe that quality would be inconsequential

Have we ruled out private enterprise (no pun intended). Star Fleet puts out specs and a request for proposals from Boeing, Airbus, etc. I understand not wanting to name specific corporations, but I do think it reasonable that private corporations could already be working on designs that they'd pitch to the government. There have been many references to World War II, and that's how it worked back then.

Tellarites are obviously communications the way they like to argue... Probably more about networks and protocols, they just might be the logistics masters.

There is one thing I both love and dont like about the federation ships; the saucer and secondary hull setup. Most of the ships have the heavy weapons in the secondary hull, meaning that they are (at least from what I can work out from blind suposition) useless against any enemy attacking from any other plane/angle than the one the federation ship has/is on. And in a 3 dimentional space like, well, space, it is kinda silly to build a ship in a way that blocks its own weapons from firing. Again, this is just what I think, with zero research. If anyone knows how this is solved, please tell me

Anybody notice that the ship has the registry number 1650 at 1:10, but on the blueprints 6:20 it shows 1450?

It took about 13 months to build a WW2 Essex aircraft carrier.

AXANAR! AXANAR! AXANAR!

It was the Yorktown at Midway and she was repaired in 3 days not 4

More details on ships designs bridge make it so ! ;)

20 years for the Galaxy Class

Why are the older Federation ships using the JJ Nu Trek saucer sections? It's kind of weird, isn't this suppose to be set in the "prime universe"?

I would think maneuvering thruster and impulse engines would be more important than straight out warp speed.

It's one fly in the ointment for star trek that bugged me, 'going where no one has gone before' poorly armed? That and sending key officers and even its Captain, on a away mission. If anyone of them died on a mission, that would leave a large capability gap in how that ship functions. This design would be comparing other starfleets ships being like a modern navy multi role supply ship or MRV, that often can carry scientific reserchers and do humanitarian, disaster relief, lightly armed,the Ares to be compared to a Arliegh Burke class destroyer, built for war.

I don't think that the Ares Class was originally designed as a warship. It was probably originally designed as a general purpose vessel, and it was most likely nearly completed along with other ships of the line being under construction before being repurposed as a warship.

So the Ares was like the Defiant class of it's day?

I consider Ares Class a fast production War Cruiser, comparable to the NCL from Starfleet Battles

Engineers like to change everything to miss quote Bones! Specially is you have engineers of a dozen planets working together ? Ouch!! In Shipyard!! Double Ouch!! Many changes are done in the spot in new ships and sometimes are unique for type of ships or upgrades due to mistake as well.

In fact in the 1970's there were plans to invade Canada, Britain and Europe but they were more like strategy evaluations. There was also a report called Oilfields as Military Objectives.... There will always be strategic 'what if' planning because you never know how even the most democratically stable countries will be in the years ahead...

Does anyone notice the Aries impulse engine looks like the ones on the new Discovery Enterprise.

If the Ares is the prototype, theregistry number should start with NX, not NCC.