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Trekyards EP196 - Pathfinder Class (STO) (Part 1)

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We have the very talented Thomas Marrone join us for today's Trekyards to discuss a ship he designed for Star Trek Online, the Pathfinder class. A very cool take on the Intrepid class design, and a very informative episode. Be sure to tune in next week for the conclusion in part 2.
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@jati
@jati 7 жыл бұрын
I love that a Star Trek fan like him gets to design ships. He obviously knows what he's talking about.
@roachman7496
@roachman7496 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy it when they get to talk with designers that are very into the lore, who can give possible in-universe explanations for designs.
@bsmnt23
@bsmnt23 7 жыл бұрын
If Tuvok was in charge of the Pathfinder project, you'd think that he would have pointed out that in 7 years they never once bothered to use the Aeroshuttle, and it would be logical to axe it. Make room for another omniwave sensor suite or something. Make it a Klingon Dozen.
@DanielRMueller
@DanielRMueller 7 жыл бұрын
A theory on why it wasn't used ever in the show was that the Voyager did not have the actual Aero Shuttle installed. The shape we see is basically whatever they used to cover up the docking bay for the Shuttle. If we take that theory as premise, Tuvok might point out that Voyager was forced to build the Delta Flyer since it lacked its Aero Shuttle, and he'd highly recommend keeping an Aero Shuttle in the design.
@bsmnt23
@bsmnt23 7 жыл бұрын
I can accept that, though it would be a little easier if they had built the Delta Flyer to fit in the Aero Shuttle's launch cradle instead of cramming it into the aft shuttle bay (especially when we all know the Delta Flyer is a little too wide for the bay doors).
@lil18thletterking77
@lil18thletterking77 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Weston what's a klingon dozen?
@Firenza
@Firenza 6 жыл бұрын
"Slipstream: It's not the best way to travel faster than light, it's just the only way." (Andromeda) Unless you're in the world of STO, where it's just a faster way.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 2 жыл бұрын
Warp 15 capable reactors: "laws of physics don't apply".
@Tyneras
@Tyneras 7 жыл бұрын
Nacelle justification: It's a science vessel, so maybe variable geometry allows it to be less "noisy" in sub space and thus get more bang out of it's sensors.
@harrisonrothacher2250
@harrisonrothacher2250 3 жыл бұрын
With the revelation that the USS voyager becomes a legacy ship in discovery, I wonder if one of these would become the USS Voyager-A
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 2 жыл бұрын
No Voyager is still active at this time. Her Delta Quadrant modifications were still useful for the job of exploring that area of space.
@Trinitycore0720
@Trinitycore0720 Жыл бұрын
This class of starship is not the Voyager-A but the Voyager-B according to Star Trek Picard season three
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 7 жыл бұрын
the pathfinder reminds me of the ssd normandy from mass effect.
@kevinwiltshire2217
@kevinwiltshire2217 4 жыл бұрын
The front top of the ship looks like it has some super laser weapon
@AstroZombieGaming
@AstroZombieGaming 7 жыл бұрын
I love that you guy had Zefilms do his #shipporn .... awesome sauce!
@ErnestRamos
@ErnestRamos 7 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite ships in the game. I always thought of this ship as underrated because of it's very heavy slant towards Science. While I tend to fly this ship with the normal Intrepid "skin" (all of my Intrepid videos are actually of the Pathfinder), it really is a beautiful design (one of the best original Cryptic designs in my opinion) and can really perform well in the right hands.
@JimbobHarrigan1984
@JimbobHarrigan1984 7 жыл бұрын
My tactical flies one, really good ship. I've only just got used to the hull, took a while for it to grow on me.
@teskyer
@teskyer 7 жыл бұрын
love it...best design I've seen in a while ;)
@craigharvey-gurr337
@craigharvey-gurr337 6 жыл бұрын
The Pathfinder class is my favorite Intrepid variant. If I had that ship in STO, I'd call it the USS Tempest.
@Lokiawa
@Lokiawa 7 жыл бұрын
That's cool you got some excellent Zefilm footage.
@benkai09
@benkai09 7 жыл бұрын
ok no ones so far seems to be geeking out over the fact that you'll be able to order your ships
@ProjectT
@ProjectT 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's my ship! :D
@warwolfsoftware
@warwolfsoftware 7 жыл бұрын
I got one too I've never figured out how to use the detachable extras on this and the Odessy class.
@marsm9
@marsm9 7 жыл бұрын
Detachable extras? You mean the special consoles?
@warwolfsoftware
@warwolfsoftware 7 жыл бұрын
I imagine now you have to buy other ships to get he consoles that allow for the detachable parts
@marsm9
@marsm9 7 жыл бұрын
No they should have them...make sure the console is slotted and press "P" while in space to bring up the powers menu...it should be in there.
@Isteak80
@Isteak80 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on having this class now canon!
@NeoSephirothVal
@NeoSephirothVal 7 жыл бұрын
That's the coolest looking Star Trek Ship of all times. I absolutely love the design.
@joshuabates7424
@joshuabates7424 7 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@wargodsix
@wargodsix 7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to 3D print I wonder if it's gonna be customizable in scale and if we can 3D print our actaul customized interchanged pieces
@gageous8306
@gageous8306 7 жыл бұрын
My sci officer uses this ship... It's awesome!
@Crimsonguyver
@Crimsonguyver 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that Voyager should have found a shipyard after Seven of Nine joined the crew, then had the ship rebuilt using all the advanced tech they learned during their flight to here, including Borg enhancements, and forerunner tech for the future tech admiral Janeway brought for them. And yes integrated the slipstream drive but with faults that limits its use to short hops.
@ethanforster
@ethanforster 7 жыл бұрын
I like the homage to the Pathfinder program as the name for the ship
@sseltrek1a2b
@sseltrek1a2b 3 жыл бұрын
love this variant of the Intrepid Class...wish this would have been the Voyager for the TV series...
@adamlytle2615
@adamlytle2615 7 жыл бұрын
The other thing about the saucer being split down the middle by the deflector: the way the hull plating directly above looks, it implies that that whole area is deflector dish gear. I realize that's not necessarily the case, but IMO the ship would look more reasonable with the deflector further down, and only a fairly small portion of the hull above with the look we see here - say in keeping with what we know of how big typical deflector tech would be for a dish of this size.
@davidiusk
@davidiusk 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's quite useful, proportion is on the underside of the saucer section (primary deflector and nacelle) and full sensors array and an unused deflector assembly is topside.
@timothypage252
@timothypage252 7 жыл бұрын
I LOVE those nacelles!
@chrisgwilliam9893
@chrisgwilliam9893 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻 nice ship
@EagleTempest
@EagleTempest 7 жыл бұрын
Still my main flagship on STO, and I've never replaced her since. c:
@adamlytle2615
@adamlytle2615 7 жыл бұрын
Neat looking ship. I'd like to see a 4 nacelled variant. It'd be like a Starfleet X-Wing. As for the secondary deflector, I guess we should think of it as more the "co-deflector" - personally I think it could be a little further down, ie much less "trench"
@George040270
@George040270 7 жыл бұрын
And after a thousand or so years later, we end up with "The Old Republic".
@jacksymon6053
@jacksymon6053 7 жыл бұрын
Since you do videos on sto ships too could you consider doing one on the quasar class variant of the nova class?
@detpackman
@detpackman 7 жыл бұрын
while i wasnt a big fan of the INTEL ships designs, i love the pathfinder design , to be honest ive been a big fan of all the ships thomas worked on in STO his take on how the universe would construct ships is perfect in my opinion
@kryptikkomatose
@kryptikkomatose 7 жыл бұрын
that rick sternbach voyager version looks so sick id have loved to have seen that instead also looks so good the fin maybe is too much but i could deal with it if left in
@jamesyates3092
@jamesyates3092 3 жыл бұрын
Pathfinder awesome ship.
@spacefx1340
@spacefx1340 7 жыл бұрын
Great looking ship, the new science ships out now are the temporal ships, more powerful.
@JimbobHarrigan1984
@JimbobHarrigan1984 7 жыл бұрын
That's the USS Chindit, I fly a Pathfinder myself. saucer and hull with intrepid pylons and bellerophon nacelles
@S1nwar
@S1nwar 7 жыл бұрын
and the interior has the size of a shuttle because the ship consists of 99% cutouts ^^
@watchthe1369
@watchthe1369 6 жыл бұрын
In STO it is a game, so EVERYTHING is quasi military. Making kabooms is what sells most. One deflector is slipstream optimized, the other is the real and traditional GP deflector.
@MzRtS12
@MzRtS12 7 жыл бұрын
sweet sweet visuals. are you taking advantage of the new lighting system in STO?
@jonathondallon6865
@jonathondallon6865 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how he feels about it officially being the USS Voyager B.
@Winchester1979
@Winchester1979 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love an explanation from Thomas Marrone about some of the recurring greebles that show up on many of his (I'm assuming they're his at least) designs for STO. I can identify the phaser strips and photon torpedo tubes pretty easily (the photon torpedo tubes are a black grate over glowing red, Pathfinder has a pair mounted flanking the main deflector), but what are the glowing blue flattened hexagons at the fore and aft edges of the belly (below the deflector forward, and below the modular bays aft)? Are those quantum torpedo tubes? (Since these also show up on the Yorktown, Sojourner, Andromeda and Yamato classes, they are of extreme interest to me...) Also, what are those big hexagonal bumps on the underside of the saucer, just forward of the trailing edge? Something similar shows up on several of the other T6 ships (not the ones mentioned above though), and was assuming they're turrets or something? Star Trek is the kind of setting where most recurring details actually mean something, and I would love to know what I'm looking at if for no other reason than to be able to jot down RPG stats properly. :)
@sirboulevard
@sirboulevard 7 жыл бұрын
You might want to read Thomas' companion to this episode, the latest issue of Jayce's Navy Interstellar: indd.adobe.com/view/5f366921-7fa5-476d-8603-3f2a3b0cb983
@Winchester1979
@Winchester1979 7 жыл бұрын
sirboulevard I honestly had no idea these existed, and when I went looking I found articles on a few other ships I was highly interested in as well. Thanks for posting that!
@Asuno1321
@Asuno1321 7 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you guys are going to make a full episode on the Odyssey Class ?
@MortalMC1
@MortalMC1 7 жыл бұрын
They already did, look back through the episodes, although i would like to see them make a newer one.
@thribs
@thribs 7 жыл бұрын
I think that was just a Mission Briefing.
@Dlmc85
@Dlmc85 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they answered to the critics saying it was a MB so they did not do research but only commented on design.
@Chad-kp4vj
@Chad-kp4vj 7 жыл бұрын
Good show, these T6 ships are interesting to see the thinking behind the design. I also see ZEFilms did some video work for you guys, or was this taken from one of his vids? I think a lot of your fan base would love his stuff. Second Edit: Just saw on his Twitter that he did some shots for you. Awesome colab I must say! Hope to see more of this!
@obsidiansands
@obsidiansands 7 жыл бұрын
As good as the Pathfinder is... I usually use the Bellerophon skin. It looks about the sleekest ship in the Intrepid class. A science-heavy hot rod.
@TheCastellan
@TheCastellan 7 жыл бұрын
16:30....pity that deal went bad.
@SC1ENCEP1E
@SC1ENCEP1E Жыл бұрын
Wonder what's brought me here 😂 look at these two young scamps
@Ecl713
@Ecl713 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what software he uses to design starships?
@tempest0392
@tempest0392 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do the eclipse Intel cruiser next pleas :)
@renemourik6588
@renemourik6588 6 жыл бұрын
you say he is 430 meters tall but why do I get when I see the Pathfinder class in google type a picture of 1250 meters as length
@wargodsix
@wargodsix 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think the nacessles look motion picture era the necessle alone they have the shaping of the enterprise Refit and enterprise A I like them they took design from old days and upgraded it
@Enfiare
@Enfiare 7 жыл бұрын
Do you desire a Star Trek future? What do you think we need to do to move towards such a wonderful future?
@Enfiare
@Enfiare 7 жыл бұрын
+Doktor L How about we skip the wars, and do something better than fiction? Yea, we actually can
@Enfiare
@Enfiare 7 жыл бұрын
+Doktor L Thanks tho - I do respect you for responding :))
@Shapes_Quality_Control
@Shapes_Quality_Control 5 жыл бұрын
Basically more capitalism. The more capitalism develops higher levels of automation and efficiency the more of the market is freed to pursue endeavors like space travel and the like. I believe there is a Voyager episode in which Paris tells that capitalism became so efficient that even standard currency became next to useless on earth.
@sonofjorel9886
@sonofjorel9886 5 жыл бұрын
Kill all the lawyers!😐
@gbot94hitachi
@gbot94hitachi 7 жыл бұрын
do mercury class next pls lol
@thribs
@thribs 7 жыл бұрын
Voyager was all wrong during that expansion story. It's supposed to be refitted with new nacelles.
@ahcokris
@ahcokris 7 жыл бұрын
he's so cool:"in a techno babblley" way....hhhhhhhhhh that is so extremley funny. I'm envious if this guy. He designs ships....wow. Respect :)
@ahcokris
@ahcokris 7 жыл бұрын
Am I the onky one who thinks deflectors should be placed on top not under the saucer section?
@IvanWizard-Karl
@IvanWizard-Karl 5 жыл бұрын
pretty!!!
@alanhilton3611
@alanhilton3611 6 жыл бұрын
ER isn't the main aim of a deflector to clear Particles and debris out of the way while at warp....putting it in a channel like this only restricts the particle beam significantly and puts most of the ship at risk from micro collisions at warp except for the spine the ship and underlying central sections.
@tempest0392
@tempest0392 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do the resolutte class next pleas its a modern exelsiore class
@AnubisX1
@AnubisX1 7 жыл бұрын
Nice design, i have never played STO, wanted to bur have never been much of a fan of MMOs due to alot of bullying on other games i prefer singleplayer games, but SWTOR show me that they can be played as singleplayer. Is STO the same can the whole storyline be played singleplayer or do you need to work with other players to play?
@dustinchattaway7953
@dustinchattaway7953 7 жыл бұрын
would it be possible to up scale the science ship weapon one more slot because 6 weapons slot feel weak for 2410 science ships.
@sirboulevard
@sirboulevard 7 жыл бұрын
Science ships aren't about weapons damage, but Exotic Particle Damage. Science ships right now are top of the meta game because the highest end ones are simply dealing out rediculous amounts of damage from science, intelligence, or temporal powers.
@dustinchattaway7953
@dustinchattaway7953 7 жыл бұрын
The only 2 or 3 starfleet ships that should be under gunned is the oberth, Nova and the Olympic class
@dustinchattaway7953
@dustinchattaway7953 7 жыл бұрын
Even at that the starfleet Nova can take good care of itself.
@sirboulevard
@sirboulevard 7 жыл бұрын
And the Pathfinder can kick ass. Stop thinking that Phasers + Photons = the entirety of offensive strategies. Some Treknobabble powers can make even the most powerful escort cry in its inability to keep up. I literally watched someone in a Temporal Science MultiMission Explorer OHKO an Iconian Dreadnought. Don't underestimate science.
@JimbobHarrigan1984
@JimbobHarrigan1984 7 жыл бұрын
Fleet Nova maybe
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 7 жыл бұрын
Patherfinder Class... With a name like that shouldn't it be based on the (not often mentioned) modifications made to the USS Voyager in the Post TV show Novels for the "Pathfinder Project". though I think that version has fewer cosmetic changes overall, but still if someone was to start from scratch the end result might be quite similar to the STO result anyway.
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 6 жыл бұрын
12:30 man i really need to play Star Trek Online again, very underrated mmo. Anyone know if you can get Akira class in that game? Or any starship remotely close to it?
@nielskoolstra
@nielskoolstra 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can get the Akira class in the game. As a tier 3 vessel, and T5 and T6 for endgame
@RaikenXion
@RaikenXion 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like I got abit of work till then, thanx :)
@dustinchattaway7953
@dustinchattaway7953 7 жыл бұрын
Thomas the cryptic cat why doe she pathfinder secondary deflector look a lot like the torpeo launcher front the Constitution reftrofit from star trek motion picture 1979?
@warwolfsoftware
@warwolfsoftware 7 жыл бұрын
Why don't we get more dreadnought type starships in STO I'd like to see the Polaris dreadnought from episode 79 against an Iconian dreadnought.
@marsm9
@marsm9 7 жыл бұрын
There's 9 or 10 dreads in game at this point all be it, some are refits but 6 unique ones I can think of just off hand.
@warwolfsoftware
@warwolfsoftware 7 жыл бұрын
But most of the fed dreads are an engineering, science. Onlya handful of tactical or pure fighting ships.
@PrinceAnakin
@PrinceAnakin 7 жыл бұрын
I never played star Trek Online can you make Captain Wesley Crusher of Starship?
@heathward8826
@heathward8826 5 жыл бұрын
Cardasian warship breakdown please
@redgreen09
@redgreen09 7 жыл бұрын
well what will the trek look like by 3000s ? who knows
@PrinceAnakin
@PrinceAnakin 7 жыл бұрын
I never played StarTrek Online do you have to get PC game or PlayStation 2 can you make Captain Wesley Crusher of Future designed in StarTrek Timelines for starTrek online iam new newbie Please help.
@bsmnt23
@bsmnt23 7 жыл бұрын
A dozen has a lot of meanings based on who and where you are. A dozen is supposed to be 12, but a baker's dozen is 12+1. I've figured out what the concept of a dozen is in Star Trek using cupcakes. Federation: The Book says a dozen cupcakes is 12. The Chief of Engineering can give 13, but only by rewriting the laws of physics. The Captain needs 14. Chief gives him 15. Ferengi: Depends on who's selling or buying. If selling, it's 12, minus a surcharge of 1 for the privilege of buying cupcakes. If buying, a dozen is 12 plus however many more cupcakes you can get away with. Klingons: Klingon honor DEMANDS that cupcakes be raw and wriggling! ...with mint frosting. Vulcans: Humans are bared from the ancient Vulcan ceremony of cupcakes. Borg: Dozen is irrelevant. All your cupcakes are belong to us. That's all i got offhand; carry it on below.
@jsmasters77
@jsmasters77 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, why don't they make cgi/cartoon series set in the lore the prime line year 2418???
@stephencothran3702
@stephencothran3702 7 жыл бұрын
Qapla'!!!
@dustinchattaway7953
@dustinchattaway7953 7 жыл бұрын
extra impulse fees and warp fuel and torpedoes
@wargodsix
@wargodsix 6 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed they canceled the 3D printing they really should find a new partner
@nathanhough8156
@nathanhough8156 7 жыл бұрын
phantom class star trek online
@enterprise-h312
@enterprise-h312 7 жыл бұрын
It seems wrong to me to limit the deflector's line of sight. 5:05 I'm sorry to burst your warp-bubble, Captain, but you already discussed that. 17:30 Wouldn't a platoon of MACOs be stored in isolinear chips in the 25th century?
@morganb6717
@morganb6717 7 жыл бұрын
MACO still has an active presence in the STO timeline. (but, huehue ;D otherwise)
@SFC3
@SFC3 7 жыл бұрын
MACOs are reinstated for the Borg threat in this game. They're not the old MACOs, rather they're a new version named in honor of them essentially.
@kryptikkomatose
@kryptikkomatose 7 жыл бұрын
STO is the only fucking property doing star trek somewhat right its how the shows and movies should be u know continuing forward like star trek is supposed to be its sad a video game has to be how we get our semi-canon even though i considered it canon myself the poweres that be if they didnt have their heads up there butts would be making a show after the dominion war or even in the 2400s much later exploring the rest of the alpha or beta quadrants not explored u could have all your stupid new aliens and so on but anyways im ranting cool episode never used this ship myself since im mostly tactical
@whataboutbob1000
@whataboutbob1000 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@blammers
@blammers 7 жыл бұрын
Waay too busy, as is standard for STO. Less is more, ship designers. You don't have to throw everything at a ship to make it work as a design. If they subtracted a few things from the ship (like that ridiculous deflector) it could be excellent.
@mariokajin
@mariokajin 4 жыл бұрын
Quasar => Galaxy.... and because Star Trek is inside a single galaxy there are no quasars to find. Prove me wrong.
@rich1701
@rich1701 7 жыл бұрын
Is there an STO ship that is actually a good design? They all seem to have a lot of unnecessary clutter going on.
@ericmorgan7
@ericmorgan7 7 жыл бұрын
Same Trek time, same Trek channel...
@DarthSathion
@DarthSathion 6 жыл бұрын
Intrepid is gorgeous, pathfinder is just a hot mess. Too many colors and stuff going on. Very un trek like if you consider gene wanted sleek and smooth lines.
@MFKR696
@MFKR696 7 жыл бұрын
"Ablative Generator?" Seriously? Do you not realize how stupid that sounds? Look up the definition of "ablative" and you'll see that it could not, in any way, be regenerated without the use of some sort of huge replicator-type unit. In the real world, ablative armor explodes outwards to defeat shaped charges, like those found in modern HEAT RPGs. There's also no way that a power generator (if that's what it refers to) could be considered "ablative," either.
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