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Shouldn't he have used conduit?

220 221 yah, whatever it takes

The well seems to be spring feed. The water level is high enough to dip out water by hand. It is a couple hundred feet down the hill from the barn.

60 amps will have 2.85% voltage loss at that distance. A maximum of 3% is recommended. You can get more amperage but the voltage will drop will increase. I could get 100 amps but voltage will drop 4.75%. So yes it is possible. The breaker panel I installed is rated for 100 amps, but right now I am feeding it with a 60 amp breaker. I could increase the breaker size later if I needed more power.

The cable was USE-2 cable. Underground service entrance cable. 90 degree C rated. It is direct bury rated. It is only a ground connection between panels. It is not used for a ground rod connection or as actual ground.

Hey Mike, I have been looking at buying a farm upstate. I am no farmer, but why do you say that? Does the soil have a high clay content? Rocks?

There was power in the barn at some time, but not since we owned it. Glad to have power now.

More efficient if you can use a heat pump instead of a heating element. But for hot water, I might think a solar water heater -- not electric might be effective. A lot depends on his electric rates.

They are replanting it soon. I have disc's the field few times. I will disc again before they replant.

@@CountryViewAcres im glad,there's nothing like the smell of fresh cut hay put up in the barn,my son just bought a old farm place and is fixing up the barn too,just trenched in the power,i milled a bunch of old pine trees for free lumber,now im milling up a bunch of utility poles to make a large cedar greenhouse 20 x 80,they won't be spraying me again

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No I didnt

The buried conductors will do fine for detection purposes. A line locator could be used on them without a problem

Here it is in 2022... and the wire itself would cost more than this whole project by itself. I'm looking at having to get 250MCM size wire for my doublewide home run right now, its 300 feet 😔. The prices have gone out of control. I'm getting a cost hookup thru family, direct master electrician's price for the wire, wholesale.... and aluminum 250 250 4/0 wire is gonna run me like 1,800 bucks. If the price were Retail?? Several thousand just for 300 ft of the wire 😔 Even did great getting this done when he did!!

@@suburbangardenpermaculture3117 The wire he used is only 25% more expensive now. $1015 instead of $800. Not a huge difference.

This wire is rated for direct bury. No conduit required. If you run conduit underground only wet rated cable is required. Some people may use conduit for added protection or to make replacing the cable easier if it goes bad. It was going to be an extra $400 dollars for PVC conduit. I figured a barn wasn't important enough for the added wire protection

I ran separate wires for those locations.

Why not add a junction box and split it out? Just want to gave them on separate breakers?

No, I didnt have any.

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This is for your specified 360 ft run.

I calculated it as 350 feet on southwires voltage drop calculator. I calculated as 240 volts, direct bury, single phase. It came out as 60 amps 2.85% loss. I can vary depending on how you calculate it. I think I will be good.

Yeah that is where the transformer is, but the meter and breaker box is where I started. I would have had to install a whole new electric meter to use that pole. They charge $25 per month for a each meter. Which would have cost me $6000 over the next twenty years. So trenching was cheaper in the long run.

No it was all aerial wire that is gone.

Southwire voltage drop calculator will help size you wire. I used 4 conductor wire. The ground wire can be smaller size. I think I used 2/0 wire for hot wires and neutral and 1 gauge for the ground.

That's some big expensive wire! You could probably manage 10 gauge wire and 15 amp breaker at that distance. Do the calculation. If 240v less voltage drop. If you need 60amps you will need that huge wire period.

@@reaj2010 I just double checked him. At a 60 ampere load, 360’ aluminum conductor, 240 volts and 3% drop he is exactly at 2/0 aluminum.

Here in Canada.. make that $15K

Sorry to disagree, solar and wind are great, but let's be honest, if already connected to the grid, they make no sense at all for general use, except as an expensive science experiment, or maybe as an investment if the local electricity provider is buying your electricity back (and maybe not)... there is no way it's less expensive, everybody would do it if that was the case. Batteries for the 3 sites would cost more than $1500, and much more if you buy expensive batteries ! It could work for LED lights, but imagine you need to plug a 1000-2000W tool on any of these 3 places, only for a few hours ? That means at least 3 x 100Ah batteries (1 x Battleborn 100Ah is ~$1000, you could find $200 cheap brands). That's already more than the costs announced here, without any solar panel, inverter, controller. Grid power offers low electricity price, and much more flexibility : if he only usse LED's he won't notice the extra cost even after 15 years, but at the same time he has 60 amps 24/7 at his disposition, if he needs to scale up, without adding panels and batteries, replacing the inverter, etc. Remember that you need to design "oversized" solar installations in case of poor atmospheric conditions, for longer battery lifespan, and mostly for the occasional equipment. Any serious offgrid solar installation has at least one large diesel/gas generator to supply the extra juice when needed ! and power outages can also happen, a branch on a panel, battery issue, etc. That said, renting the digger and buying the cable would already cost me at least twice that price in my country, not counting the work and other parts (not to mention rules and permits) ! still, for this sum I would only get a single solar installation able to provide for light and the occasional power hand tool, and that's with cheap equipment. Solar would make sense for the small offgrid plot of land I own, though... power pole nearby, but the price of a high voltage transformer, counter, mensuality, etc would be totally over the top for my intended usage.

A lot depends on the electric rates. If it's less than like $0.20 a kwh, no, solar probably doesn't make sense.

Mine is $25 a month. For each electric meter. Copper is more expensive. About three times the cost than aluminum. Copper could be used and it is better than aluminum. I choose for the cheaper option.

National electric code 300.5 (D)(3) is for direct bury underground service Conductors (which is where the warning tape is called out to use). The National electric code, defines service Conductors underground as Conductors between point of electrical service (electric meter) and first point of customer's service (which would be my 200 Amp breaker panel). These Conductors are feeding a sub panel from my main breaker panel and would be considered feeder Conductors, not service Conductors and tape isn't required. I know some areas have their own code requirements, but we use National electric code here.

@@CountryViewAcres Thanks for the clear explanation. Were it my install, I am sure I would use the tape regardless. It's cheap. Also, the depth and box installation...both ends...would need to be permitted and inspected by the county.

@@timgarner6768 Agreed.. it takes two seconds and cost pennies. You may be saving someone's life in the future. May be your own.. may be your kids when they get older and start modifying the ranch.

Legally he can direct bury USE-2, but I would have definitely ran conduit. Conduit will prevent decay of the insulation and damage.

The overhead line is the electric companies wire. To tie into it I would have had to have another electric meter. There is a $25 dollar per month charge for each meter. Which would bean extra $300 a year, so opted to run power underground instead.

Smart move . You are already paying for 1 meter . Why pay for another one . Even if you didn't use any hydro you still would have to pay that $25 .

This is similar to what he probably used. www.wireandcableyourway.com/2-2-2-4-dyke-underground-secondary-distribution-cable

Not if the cable is rated for direct burial. He did not say what he bought. Here is a link that shows #2 direct burial. www.wireandcableyourway.com/2-2-2-4-dyke-underground-secondary-distribution-cable

He dug a hole by hand to see where the wire run was before dropping the trencher.... watch again

Yes

Check your pricing again. USE-2 direct bury at home depot is a lot higher in price.

@@CountryViewAcres I don`t know why you think that you have to use "USE" "USE" is listed as "aluminum mobile home feeder" underground service entrance cable "URD" is listed as "secondary distribution and underground service" cable, both can be buried directly, and both are PEX insulated 500F of 3 2/O URD IS 546$ At the end of the day it is YOUR wallet, I was sad because I thought somebody took you for a ride, and I still do. This link shows what 3 2/O URD cost at HD www.homedepot.com/p/Southwire-500-ft-2-2-2-Black-Stranded-AL-Ramapo-URD-Cable-55417407/202316324

That is #2 not 2/0. And yes URD will work. But that is the wrong size wire.

By the way, thanks for looking out for me. But wire is expensive.

@@CountryViewAcres I have to admit that you are right on that one, my search on HD.com did not come out as intended, but my commend on 4x2/O w 3x2/O is still valid, you could have used 25F of 6G copper at the barn as earth I meant no offense. Keep up the great work

Technically, no. But I have an electronics degree and deal with it at my job.

Yep, the wire spool is in the barn yard for goats to climb on.

Also supposed to call diggers hot line especially when trenching near a pole

it's not required on a feeder line trenches.....per NEC....only required on SER line from power company side point of origin to meter box "there Einstein"

SKYguy, yep just on service entrance cable. Because of the high Arc flash potential between the transformer and electric meter/first disconnect. I just ignore the Einsteins that think they know the National electric code.

@@CountryViewAcres it amazes me that keyboard warriors have the ability to question themselves (clearly unimformed) in their OP and still have the balls to insult and name call in the same breath. SMH