If my brother is my equal then he wouldn't ask me the to kneel before him and if he expects me to do so, then he neither sees me as his brother or his equal.

I’m a 66 year old white English middle class lady. My life in the main has been wretched. I’m sick of being told I’m privileged as if I’ve been protected from everything. A happy life is a privilege no matter where or who you are.🙄

It's a sad reflection of the world we live in when simply hearing intelligent adults have a grown up conversation is a refreshing change.

Great video by two highly intelligent people. The BBC would never show this

Trevor has something that transcends any colour, he has intellect, warmth and humour.

thank heavens for Trevor, what a top bloke

Black intellectuals like him remind me that my people are not all totally brainwashed 🙏

My only bit of anger is when rich white or rich people of colour, tell me i have white privilege, because i don't feel much privilege lifestyle or financially

I'll remember my 58 years of white privilege when I'm laying bricks, here in Australia in 100 F heat with 90% humidity. Every morning at 5 a.m. my back reminds me of my privilege as well

Clever Trevor, what a good egg, more sense spoken in ten minutes than I’ve heard in years a breath of fresh air.

Critical race theory, an awful export from pseudo academia in America. Us native Britons on the periphery have enough problems without wealthy bourgeosie telling us we are privileged.

Im white, earn less than minimum wage self employed and I live in the back of my Van so I don't have to sleep on the street. But I just want to be left alone to enjoy my white privilege please.

I'm still waiting patiently for my white privelidge.

Brilliant viewing. Blm is trying to cause devision. It's time we abandon them and that can start with no more kneeling in the PL

Having pre-conceived ideas about someone because of the colour of their skin....didn't I hear somewhere that was wrong?

Trevor's always a joy to listen to - he's articulate, well-read, dignified, full of integrity, and reasonable. And I'm saying this despite hating what he did in support of Tony Blair's government.

What I love about this? Two blokes, ignore what colour, two blokes who respect each other, like each other, and enjoy chin wagging with each other. What life should be all about, surely.....

This man will never be on the BBC - I can guarantee that, he talks a lot of sense rather than utter nonsense

-Trevor Phillips quite clearly shows that it is the way you behave that counts and not your skin colour, a real nice bloke, we could all learn from Him.

Thank God for Trevor Phillips and intelligent people akin to him, regardless of colour/ethnicity.

Finally a gentleman

Crikey... I didn't think the day would come that I agreed with Trevor Philips, but he is spot on when it comes to critical race theory and BLM.

NIce to see Trevor bringing some sense to the party

Great conversation. I wish we could have this articulated conversation in the US--but people only want to hear their own voices over here. And they shout. A lot.

Absolutely he is. Hope Trevor Phillips he will run for London Mayor and bring London some desperately needed sanity and safety

So when can we use the term "White Community" without being condemned, please Good Sirs?

Gentlemen. This important discussion deserves many more views. Schools etc. Thank you. I wish you and your families a safe, peaceful and joyous Christmas.

Thank goodness for you Andrew and Trevor.. we do need voices to represent how the silent majority truly feels!

I'm still looking for my White Privilege.

Amazing work. I went to school in England and as a Irish man no 1 called me by my first name. I was called paddy every day by black white asians .it was no big deal I got on with life and it made me the man I am today...

A truly balanced, level-headed and educated point of view, well done Mr Phillips. Retaliating against hatred with your own hatred, just makes you a hater yourself and therefore the same as those you hate. People who only talk s#*!e always have to shut other people's views down, people with something worthwhile and honest to say don't need to. They speak like Trevor Phillips.

This needs to be shown in ALL universities and schools.

Trevor deserves credit for reaching across divides to talk to people, there's no way forward without other people doing similarly.

Great way of putting it!

Critical race theory is nonsense however it seems to have massive traction everywhere and that's what makes it so dangerous

As a long-time racist I am livid that everyone else has been co-opted into what I always considered an exclusive club. 😅😅😅😅😅

The irony of saying 'stop apologising for being white', while in the same breath using the nonsense term "people of colour" (Newspeak for 'everyone except whites').

But unfortunately, no one listens to Trevor...

Trevor Phillips radiates integrity and stature in this documentary. He has a great passion for tackling racial injustice but isn't blinded to his own past policy mistakes, is seeking improvement and listening to feedback not blocking it out. The school principal at the end was outstanding and it's good to see preferential policies based on ethnic cohort can be useful if adaptable to needs and equally applied to all cohorts as needed regardless of background. The only problem with this approach is that it's top-down and relies on placing discriminatory authority in government bodies that have a poor record in correcting course (see, grooming gangs), nor does this address the problem of high levels of immigration. I hope Phillips gets traction, where he is coming from with his conversation is the right start.

As just an average person I found this interview very interesting and honest. Thank you.

I am always so impressed by Trevor Phillps

Everyone can see their intentions, enjoyed G. Floyd situation to the max, any movement using colour is racist

What a fabulous interview. I whole heartedly agree as I grew up mixed race in York... a very white city where I was chased home every day by a racist bully. People just suffered, but I love my country and we have come a long way to how it used to be. I've not received any negative race hate since I was a teenager and my children never went through any of what I did.

I used to watch Andrew Neil on This Week.I thought he was great....This is even better.Sensible mature debate almost a conversation.A credit to Trevor Phillips too.No rude interjections,no shouting and no political point scoring and best of all....NO WOKENESS..Loving listening to these

I'm a white guy, can anyone point me in the direction of this land of privilege? I haven't come across it as of yet. Fingers crossed though.

I love listening to two intelligent, educated and informed people having a discussion.

I literally love this man and always have. He's literally my hero. From my part of London, smart, intelligent, composed and an all round great guy ❤️

Trevor Phillips, who has spent his life in tireless struggle for the empowerment and recognition of Trevor Phillips.

Trevor Phillips makes some great points . And reminds me of the extinction rebellion mobs who think they are the only ones who have concerns for the planet , while they fly off to various parts of the world eating food covered in palm oil , etc

Brilliant interview Andrew, thank you.

I am privileged no matter what colour I am because Iv'e had good health & a loving family.

What a lot of sense this wonderful man speaks.........

Respect to Andrew Neil ... one of the few journalists I actually trust! Trevor Phillips comes close!

You would never see a sensible, extended interview on this subject on the BBC. Sad

Thank heavens we have people like Trevor and Andrew putting this problem in to perspective Black lives matter do nothing for racism keep going chaps I’m not sure you’re going to win but whatever you do don’t stop trying

What a breath of fresh air in this debate gentlemen , thank you so much👍.

George Floyd has not been proven yet to have died because of the officer, just a technicality you should focus on to stop yourself getting in trouble...

@ 5:12 - "It's great for the academics, who sell books ..." Indeed.

Wow what a guy!! I’m speechless made my day listening to TP 👍

Thank you. Two voices of common sense in a mad mad world.

Thank you Gentlemen,,you both held my interest,,you both are good speakers ! I am in the USA and hope to visit Britain one day.

A man of integrity and old school left views.

Racism isn't a major problem in the UK!!! My dad came from a piss poor village in India and made a success in the UK with English being his second language. He taught us to make the most of the fantastic opportunities in this great country.

Great interview..It’s such a breath of fresh air to hear Trevor speak freely and honestly.. He made many great and extremely important points that tragically have become almost impossible the express in our media without being meet with outrage and labeled “nazi racist “.. It’s a horrible attitude that’s strangling our society ,culture and keeping in backward hateful mindset.. The U.K. desperately needs to have more open and free debates like this.. ASP..

I show my solidarity with my brothers and sisters of different race not on one knee, but standing shoulder to shoulder with them. We all together must fight against social divisions and those that create them.

Yes let's have some truth about slavery. Who were selling the slaves in Africa? Who were the slave traders in Africa?

Two intelligent men having an intelligent conversation. Really enjoyed that.

One of my heros Trevor Philips. A great British citizen with grounded and sensible thinking.

2 great people full of common sense the media is lacking people like these two

Feed up with British msm telling me im racist because im British and white. Its disgusting and getting out of hand.

No you never apologise Andrew!!

Fantastic,I am and stand with both gentlemen

As mixed race woman I Totally agree with Trevor! His explaining what I'm thinking and feel.

I’m white working class don’t feel like a supremacist

I LOVE Trevor Phillips. What an honest man......sadly in the minority.... What about all the Black Privilege in Africa????

I love this! Honest down to earth talking!! Let's have more of this.

How utterly refreshing to hear from Trevor. A truly intelligent man who rarely appears on mainstream media as he doesn't fit their narrative of racism. Great guy

I'm yet to recieve my white privalidge

Been a Massive Fan of Trevor since the London Programme and the LWT days..he speaks alot of sense and with alot of personal experience too .. Respect ..!!

Finally; it's so refreshing to see a grown up, proper conversation about matters of race! Thank you

I love the idea of defunding the police, when your house is getting robbed at 2am who you gonna call? Ghostbusters?

Can we trade in diane Abbott for another Trevor please! Great conversation. Thanks!

Trevor Phillips what a guy . Why do mainstream media not have him on more often . Most sense I have heard on this matter for a long time

How sensible is Trevor Phillips, great to listen to this.

Slavery is a sin of the world. Been going on for thousands of years. History tells you the struggle and cheapness of life in those times. No one gave it a thought, that was just life and survival.

As a black man he keeps saying people of colour, the FA boss got sacked for saying that. However this guy is really good

I've always like Trevor Phillips, but now I like him even more. Great interview. Very honest, informal and relaxed.

I love the way England is portrayed as being racist, yet the line of foreigners wishing to come here is endless, go figure

The BLM needs to talk about the privilege of the "Privileged tribes" in Africa🙄

Trevor Phillips is top Geezer and is so easy to like. Just a shame he's a southerner. 😄

some actual intelligent people talking about race over the last few years. so refreshing. people are getting tired of always being called racist for the colour of their skin or a victim because they're black. this needs to become mainstream. wake up people.

Trevor Phillips is always an eloquent and cerebral speaker who above all possesses common sense. I've always looked forward to listening to his views.

Not one thing in this country is better now than when i grew up in the 80s.

Two intelligent gents having a sensible conversation about race. How refreshing.

Trevor Phillips talks so much sence and should be promoted to a high position in the Home Office and working with Pritti Patel. He had no agenda but equality and respect.

This man talks a LOT of sense 👏👏👏

Thank you for this discussion. Really made me think. Very well said.

I’m still waiting for my white privilege card, hasn’t come in the mail yet!!

I love this interview, open and honest, and it has fact behind it !

Trevor Phillips is a good man and talks complete sense on this issue