We pushed our MK18’s with EOTECHs out to 400m consistently in Ranger Regiment. At the end of the day, when you understand the mechanics of a gun fight and how stuff actually plays out, your skill and highest level of training matter infinitely more than whatever weapon you happen to be carrying (within reason)

The magnifier is more then just an added firing solution aid its an awesome recon device that doesnt need to be re-zeroed when you unclip it and use it like a monocular. Being able to see better at distance and still have a red dot and all that provides up close where most/all "defensive" use cases for a firesrm will occur is a win win to me. Ill accept the added weight of the magnifier even if I dont ever use it just like I accept the weight of my carry gun in my belt even if I, god willing, never have to use it.

I think a magnifier isn’t a need on a wide open static range like this, but once you get into the real world with threats dressing even a little like the background and maybe hiding along a tree line, you need it for finding them and identifying as threat or not. I used to have a red dot on my go-to, until I moved out into the country and looked around “there’s no way I’m seeing stuff unmagnified” even at distances I’d typically be fine with the red dot on the range.

It'd be cool to have a camera just focused on the hits that you guys are making. You guys film shooters so damn well, it would be something different to see a little split screen action!

I was always taught magnifiers and scopes won’t make you shoot better but they’ll help you see better.

One of my favorite anecdotes came from a guy in the Army in Iraq who was in a gun fight with an insurgent 50 yards away behind cover. Using his 4x ACOG he was able to spot a part of the insurgent’s body that wasn’t behind cover and take a shot on him.

I've been really blessed to live in places where I can take for granted shooting out past 300 yards all the time. I'm kind of taken aback when someone mentions that they don't have a range past 100 yards but then I remember that that's something that applies to most people.

Short answer is if you have astigmatism like me you will greatly benefit from a magnifier when shooting at range with your existing red dot. Or you just need to get a prism optic to begin with that has some form of BDC

T-Rex lowers? 👀

This guy is high speed, done more tours than anybody. Truly the BEST person to learn from on the ENTIRE internet!

This is also the beauty of training (aside from dry firing which is great but can't get feedback)...you don't have to use that much ammunition to get better (more accurate, faster splits, etc.)...a couple of shots can tell you a lot in terms of what you need to improve on. If you're intentional, review your groupings & truly analyze what you're doing correctly or incorrectly for said results. Make the necessary adjustments over one or two more runs & that alone is worth a lot in terms of holds, dope, muscle memory & feeling more confident in general. Appreciate these vids Lucas! I realize you folks are incredibly busy over there (bought some gear & superb customer service, products, etc.) but fundamentals are important & more simplistic drills that don't require tons of ammo to conduct are pragmatic & resonate more so w/ the average individual out here🤙

I have been using an AP PRO with a Eotech G33 3x magnifier for awhile and it’s worked out great at all the carbine classes I have taken. The rifle is a Colt 6720 with a skinny barrell and a Centurian Arms FF rail. Hits out to 400 yards are not an issue. I can’t imagine NOT having a magnifier.

As always your content doesn’t disappoint, it’s like must watch tv.

Center mass. Probably one of the most important things I was taught as grunt. Less likely to miss that mass but more importantly it the most effective way to learn when dealing with funding and a limited budget for rounds with live fire. Dry fire helps too but so does having a good buddy to hold you accountable .

One of the better videos. Man! Learned a lot. Good stuff

I love this channels mission, keep up the great educational content!

Magnifiers are good to make lower probability shots at closer ranges, and PID targets before shooting. I see the range increase as a side benefit that's probably not going to come up as often

I can hit an 8" plate at 200 yards with just a dot (50/200 zero on a lower 1/3 mount so its just a center hold) with pretty good consistency and ease. That being said i still prefer using my magnifier for longer shots most of the time.

PID is critical. You don't need it but I want it. A 5/3X Eotech Magnifier is on all of my serious Pews. Love your videos keep them coming.

Such results could be expected at a distance of 100 m, although I have some suspicions, I am very curious what will happen at 200 or 300 m, so I can't wait for the next video.

Good shooting, and great music 🔥

I like how Brandon engages safety and closes dust cover with one smooth move. I guess I will incorporate this.

Is that a new Eotech Magnifier that Lucas can’t talk about yet!? 👀

My go to rifle is a 13.9 with an ACOG and RMR mounted on top. Usually practice on small steel plates from 100-400 yards at the range and it’s paid dividends when shooting 2 Gun matches. I used to run foregrips on the handguard but not anymore since it interferes when I’m shooting off a barricade.

Hell Yeah! Loving these videos!

Magnification (especially for the older ones among us with less than perfect vision) is key to differentiate between a threat and a no shoot, e.g. is he holding a gun or a phone in his hands?

Constellis shirt is a subtle flex. Nice.

Are plans for that barricade on the T-Rex main website? Some buddies at a local club are trying to replace a shot-up VTAC and that design looks fantastic.

The Primary Arms 6x magnifier that they just came out with is a great option with an Eotech. Ill never go back to a 3x. It allows me to hit easily out to 500 yards and see my impacts.

What would you recommend for a range taht lets yous you go from 25-300m but only from a bench? Thats what i have locally and its great for working on marksmenship but not as great for drills like this? I do also airsoft so i know how to move arounf cover half decently but its still not the same as using a real rifle

Nice video Lucas

Been watching your video's for years but realised i wasn't sub'd ! Just sub'd from the UK 👌

Excellent video! I’m making shots out to 300 pretty regularly with my 11.5 with just a EXPS. But gonna add a magnifier here soon

The EXPS3-0/G33 combo has been sitting on top of my Tavor for the last 9 years. I do like this set up 👍🏻

@Lucas Botkin, love your guy's content! And side question what drone do you guys use? If you don't mind me asking.

I'm running a 16" .223 Wylde custom build with a Sig Romeo 5 XDR and a Juliet 4 magnifier. I haven't had much time to train at longer distances, but it is zeroed at 50/200. I really need the time to go practice more but work is killing me.

Best show from all what I had see from u Lucas waiting 300 m 400 m

EXPS3-0 + G33 = good to go 🤙

I haven't thought to add a forward grip to my AR, but I think I'd go with the BCM (mostly) vertical grip. I need to find a long range here in PA

The Eotech M33 shown in the video appears to just be a G33 with covered/tethered windage and elevation adjusters. An improvement, but nothing ground breaking

See what the Sabre can do. You teased us with it a few videos back!

What's your opinion on the cHeApEr alternative to the ACOG (Primary Arms SLx 3x)? Worth it, or not durable enough for any serious (wartime/SHTF/etc.) use case? I'm asking since sometimes you can get still 80% of the quality but for 1/3 the price. And 80% of ACOG durability is fine IMO. Thx🙂

@T.REX ARMS Can we get some instruction on the proper way to shoot a rifle around the left hand side of cover as a right handed shooter while using the cover as efficiently as possible please? Preferably without shooting the rifle left handed or switching shoulders, both which take more training than most civilians are going to do.

I put a 3x magnifier behind my 1-6 LPVO! Smokin'!!

I want to see the paint jobs on these carbines. The greens mixed with fde look sick

Good reminder!

W/o watching. Magnifiers aren't necessary at that range in order to hit your target reliably and accurately. However, they are a valuable tool for better identifying your target which is incredibly important in "non range" situations. What did I miss?

NEED a magnifier or can you benefit from one? It's relevant to both skill and need for accuracy.

Interested in seeing a build list on Lucas’ rifle

It all depends on what your intended purpose for the weapon platform is or what role you need it to fill. Nice video...

Rollin’ with the Radian! 👍🏼

you need to get a review video out on the geissele super duty's possibly compared to the bcm and the ddm4v7 waiting for you to post one on the geissele before I pull the trigger on buying one

I got the EXPS3 for the big window. Had trouble on reduced size targets at 200 and got the 3x. Amazing setup. I'm better everytime I train with it, learning when I want to magnify, bracing, on a knee, prone and standing unsupported.

I live in Charlotte and I am a member at a range that has 300 yards and “combat range” (some shooting and moving” I feel blessed that I am able to train out to 300 twice a week

I really gotta know, what is that tape gun he uses to cover impacts on the target with?

More fun than most things in my life.

100 yards and in, a red dot will suffice (although magnification will increase speed), however if you want a effective, do-all build, you can't beat a magnified red dot or (preferably) a fixed prism optic with 3x or 4x magnification.

@T-Rexarms i would like to see you guys shooting a SIG 550 or Sturmgewehr 90 from the Swiss Army because we are shooting this Thing at the 300 Meter range

I’m watching this and Colorado just beat Colorado state in overtime… good video man, I like a Burris fastfire 4, weighs like nothing

Good video. Wish I could say more lol. You guys are going awesome. Wishing you liked cops more than you do :)

I love my Eotech 5x Magnifier. I helps me get out to 400 yards on ipsc steel consistently.

I love how somewhere along the way KZfaqrs started riding their dominant thumb on the outside of the rifle because some high profile precision shooter told them to and now you see it in every video. Shooting 100 yards, super precision bruh.

Love my Eotech xps3-0 sold the magnifier the 600$ price point is insane

Eotech with a magnifier or an Acog with rmr what should I put on my ddm4v7? Can’t decide help a brother

What's the style of music you guys use in your shooting montages?

I really want to stick with a simple 1x micro prism on a 14.5 carbine, but i keep wondering if magnification is needed... its not but would be nice sometimes.

This issue isn't necessarily going to a range that has 100 meter targets; but rather going to a range that allows you to actually move and shoot. The range I go to actually goes out to 200 m/yds but you have to be behind a "firing line" and can't do drills involving moving to different positions.

We come here to watch Brandon now, not even gonna lie.

I use a 100 yrd zero on IRONS & Any optic, being able to push your equipment even further & further I’m waiting on more $ to lay out 300-500 yard steel targets. I typically try to buy steel the size as body armor plates smaller target & if you can hit that repeatedly that’s smaller margin of error.

Hitting a high contrast target at 100 or 200 is one thing. Paint that target green and stick it 5 feet back in the wood line. Shoot it then.

I was LPVO guy for a lot of years. I no longer use LPVO on my Go too rigs . EXPS3 With Micro 3x is all I need 300Y and in on reduced C Zone target . I have 0 issues hitting targets from 100 - 300 in 2Gun Match setting with this combo . My other go too rig is TA31CH-G ACOG With Top Mounted RMR . I'm GTG with this Rig 500Y and in... I run 50Y Zero on my EXPS3 and TA31 ACOG . I know all my holds and BDC Lines never line up perfectly anyways

Never used a magnifer for my Aimpoint ML-3 red dot. Always wondered if the cost was worth it. Sometimes the juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

Sounds like fun to me!

Brandon shooting a T.Rex etched lower? curious if this is just something thats done to the armory guns or if this is a surprise mouse-ka-tool for later?

Depends on your eyesight too

At first I thought all the shorty lengths were pointless until I build a 12.5”. I’m running an MRO and hit no problem even out to ~400 on torso sized steel. Knowing your DOPE.. interesting how many people never actually verify data or have crappy zeros.

What is that hand stop on the other guys rifle? I like it

Do you have any opinions on the 3x vs the 5x?

Nice vid. I like the boring (drills) ones.

I love my red dot magnifier combination. I can go run cqd,some 25-50 yard drills and then go hit some paper 300-400 yards away with the same gun. Very practical. Leaves me more $ for ammo.

where can i get that tape apparatus you use to cover the holes

*OH I NEED TO WATCH THIS!! >:D* Edit: ok I watched it :-

Thank you

Can you talk to the reason for putting magnifiers as close as possible to the optic or not and maybe running it farther back to assist with eye relief issues.

What is the purpose of the tape Lucas always puts on top of his eotech?

What brand is that bag at the end of the video?

Interesting to see one of the shooters running a Radian upper on a mulspec lower

Magnifiers help with zeroing and PID and those with aging vision:)

Brought to you by eotech. Featuring the new tan combo lol

What weapon light are you running in the vid?

Good practice adventure.

Handstop/VFG and purpose made barricade stops are great for barricades and manmade structures when you work around them, in fact they make it stupid easy to control recoil, but are less than ideal for anything other than 90 degree angles. AFG's are piss-poor for shooting off barricades altogether. So you just need to decide whether or not the additional control over the weapon is worth more than ease of use on barricades. Same story for bipods. I found that a magnifier is worth having, you don't necessarily need to keep it on your rifle, you can carry it in a pouch/pocket and use it as a monocular when you don't want to point a weapon at something, and you can get PID at greater distances with some magnification. It's worth having, even if you aren't using it as intended.

I honestly use it more for target identification over anything.

I have an idea..... How about instead of taking off a very useful accessory like the hand stop, just position the magwell against the barricade instead of the hand stop..... Or grab the hand stop like you would a vertical foregrip, but leave the meat of your hand below the bottom of the hand stop.

the amount of shell casings on the ground trigger my Baghdad flashbacks

Anyone know the brand of label gun that they are using to mark there targets?

Are you applying safety between the two shot windows at 7mins ?

what's the weight of those setups without a magazine?

The more I see your videos the more I realize they are specifically for new shooters

Which is more efficient, LPVO with piggyback RD or RD w/ magnifier? I see most comparisons on KZfaq are only LPVO vs RD w/ magnification. However, that's not the best set up for a LPVO. Would be cool to see a run and gun