With my big Tiger in for its first service, I take out one of Triumph's Hipster Chariots, The Bonneville Newchurch for a test ride
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@bankruptpensioner6 жыл бұрын
A great review. I bought one of these a couple of months ago, to get me around Doha, Qatar. A chap had bought it new in 2017 (quite usual in Qatar to have brand new bikes that are a couple of years old), took it home, never rode it, then returned it to the shop a year later. I bought it for 23K Riyal which works our at some 4700 GBP which to me, is great value. All the things you said are right. The beauty of this bike is it allows you to enjoy the ride, not constantly looking at technology that's simply distracting. It's perfect for town riding and the turning circle is great. I am getting over 60MPG and that is in town so very happy at this (that said, at 35p for a litre, it really is irrelevant). One thing I do enjoy is out of the many motorcycles that are in Doha, this one seems to cause a lot of attention and glances with a smile or a thumbs up. If looking at this bike makes one person smile and think of better times in the past (not that it was - great thing nostalgia), then it was worth buying the bike. In Doha, we only have 95 petrol. And I am not so sure that it really is 95. I think it would run better on 98, but that's not available over here. Would I recommend this bike......absolutely. Makes me think of the great escape. Beige jeans and a navy blue t shirt really looks great with the bike :)
@VeeFour6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you're enjoying it, and the price sounds like a steal too!
@jacobthemodelfarm20188 жыл бұрын
Great review. v thoughtful and insightful. Given me a lot to think about.
@VeeFour8 жыл бұрын
It's a good little bike, I'd be happy to use one as a run around
@chriscarbaugh39367 жыл бұрын
VeeFour Good review, I just bought a second hand one from the dealer at a good price as everyone wants the new model. I had a '14 Thruxton and we had a love hate relationship. Really the bike is a canvas to improve. The brakes are barely up the job and the suspension needs help. Still once fixed they are an easy to ride and fun scooter.
@barryroberts24748 жыл бұрын
I started riding in 1965 and the Bonneville then, 650 variety was a sought after machine. Not by me as I was keen on the new Hondas which had all the smoothness and heaps of power (for that time). Interesting to see you ride one as they are relatively popular in Perth Western Australia. Definitely a nice commuter where you don't want any fuss. I like something more present day and that comes from a pre Hipster Chariot man!
@VeeFour8 жыл бұрын
Well the original Bonny was the Fireblade of it's day. It's a good bike, but I wonder how flooded the second hand market will be once these retro styled machines go out of fashion. Like you, I prefer my bikes to be up to date.
@Geshmaal5 ай бұрын
Really late to the party here but there isn't much info on the Bonneville Newchurch really. I think by 2015 these bikes were showing their age with hangovers from the early 2000s carbed models. I didn't even know it had a fast idle switch! It is interesting how much the Newchurch looks like a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 though, even down to the swept up exhausts rather than the standard Bonneville peashooters. Probably not the Bonneville for me overall, seems like it's worth going for a liquid cooled one instead.
@dazzargilmour Жыл бұрын
thanks for this :) very helpful!
@windyrun79798 жыл бұрын
From Motorcyclist.com: "The Triumph Tridays, the biggest Triumph motorcycle meeting in the world is the destination .... The town of Neukirchen in Austria even changes its name into Newchurch for this special event"
@VeeFour8 жыл бұрын
+Windy Run I think it may be a destination for me next year on the Tiger
@martinr6615 жыл бұрын
Good review.
@VeeFour5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Magnus44711URI5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. This was the epitome of the Bonneville revival from Triumph, the bike just became stale with the introduction of the 270-crank engine in 2016, although sales figures would probably say otherwise. However, I firmly believe the distinctive Britishness and charm of a Triumph was stamped out with the killing off of the 360-degree parallel twin engine. So unfortunately, any Triumph I will be looking to buy in the future will be pre-2016.
@VeeFour5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. They may not be a traditionally Triumph configuration, but having ridden a 2017 T120 I found the 270 lump to be a much more characterful and engaging engine to ride personally. Triumphs glory days were well and truely over by the time I first rode on the roads in 87, so I don't have the emotional connection to them like many others. For me bikes like the original Kawasaki Zed series and the Suzuki Katana get my nostalgia juices flowing as they were the big bikes of the day
@Magnus44711URI5 жыл бұрын
@@VeeFour Yeah, I hear a lot of people praise things like the torque of the new engine. It's really the sound that kills it for me. I've heard 270s passing by, and I find they have quite a cold sound off them, in comparison to the much warmer and brighter tone of the 360s. The 270 just lacks brilliance. I was hoping for the new Royal Enfield twin to stick to the classic design, but alas, a 270 emerged. It appears that as modern twins get bigger and bigger, a 360 doesn't really work because of the intusive vibration, which I think today's riders aren't that used to. Admittedly, I haven't ridden a 270, so I guess I'm not really entitled to a say on this, but thank you for your insight all the same. Subscribed!
@lth10728 жыл бұрын
That's my favourite motorbike.
@VeeFour8 жыл бұрын
and a good bike it is too :)
@lth10728 жыл бұрын
+VeeFour :-) . It sure is
@bezz727 жыл бұрын
Good review sir.......
@VeeFour7 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@robbieracer32947 жыл бұрын
That's like the Yamaha SR400, old school looking with little to no tech, but a too modern price tag. Hell it even has a kickstarter with no electronic button and they want $5000 usd for it. I like that one a lot, but if it was priced at something like $43-4500..yea I probably own one.
@VeeFour7 жыл бұрын
I agree. Over pricing seems to be a bit of a Triumph thing in my observations
@jimauld11394 жыл бұрын
so by the end of the 70s you were 10? balloon!!!!! how many bikes had you ridden then?
@VeeFour4 жыл бұрын
Two. An Ital Jet 80 and a Yamaha DT 175. I started early
@ianmcgarrigle95102 жыл бұрын
so to get this streight ,,you were 44 when you did this so in the 70s you were a baby and deff not looking at bikes ... i passed my test in 1984 and there were very few real triumph twins left in my neck of the woods ... now after 3 tiger 800s,, 1,,tiger 900 one yamaha tracer 900 and a cb1000r im thinking of buying one of these little bikes just to still have a bike in the garage its that or im giving up as modern stuff just isnt cutting it at all , hipster im def not , hope your tiger is still going strong as iv had problems with all 3 of mine ....ps MOT tester and bike tech its not my riding lol
@VeeFour2 жыл бұрын
I was born at the beginning of the 70s and I can remember seeing loads of original Trumpets knocking about in my youth, there was two on my street alone. My Tex is still going strong thanks 👍
@Marius-Gvr8 жыл бұрын
Lovely singing there, vee.
@VeeFour8 жыл бұрын
Really!?
@Marius-Gvr8 жыл бұрын
+VeeFour Absolutely. And the audio worked so much better this time.
@VeeFour8 жыл бұрын
+Marius Gavrila Thanks, I wrapped the mic in a wad of cloth to try and stifle the top end a bit. It improved it a bit but I still need a better set up.
@tony1954ish6 жыл бұрын
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!
@VeeFour6 жыл бұрын
tony robins Thanks for the useful and insightful feedback
@constantleon10446 жыл бұрын
I think he is saying, a bit less talking and a bit more bike sounds might have been nice.
@M3rVsT4H6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for just talking the whole way through. I'd hate to actually have to listen to the bike.
@VeeFour6 жыл бұрын
Merv That's kind of the whole point of a test ride first impressions video.
@M3rVsT4H6 жыл бұрын
Well then I'd say you nailed it. Personally I loved the way you were out of breath most of the time. I guess it just made it seem more exciting. Oh and the singing.. I mean you can't do a test ride first impressions video without singing. Keep up the great work.
@VeeFour6 жыл бұрын
yeah, maybe you're right Merv. Perhaps I should keep them short like your uploads. I mean 30 seconds worth of lo res waste gate punctuated gear changing? That's got viral vid written all over it!
@M3rVsT4H6 жыл бұрын
Well it's worth a shot mate. I tell you what, if you stick a turbo on a bonny, I'll watch it and tell my friends. Anyway, thanks for the view.. And btw, that's a BOV noise. :)
@deanscobie72386 жыл бұрын
This person who said he was there in the 70's is talking crap!He wasn't there or he would know the amount of bikes Triumph produced from 1970-1980.Some of the best Triumph's models were produced in that decade despite the amount of Japanese motorcycles on the market.These carburettored models had a look and sound of their own that the fuel injected models can't match but after market accessories do make a difference.Plain & simple if you want a motorcycle with history of road & racing pedigree do the math?
@VeeFour6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I disagree. Like all motor vehicles built in the 1970's and 80's in the UK, Triumph suffered badly with build quality and reliability and just couldn't compete with Japan in both of these aspects. Triumph were better than most, but were still known for poor reliability and quality of finish. The Honda Dream took and held a beach head within the ranks of the almost fanatically loyal Brit bike following, and as soon as the CB750 four cylinder arrived on the scene, with it's non-leaking horizontally split crank case, and it's smooth reliable power delivery, it was game over and the writing was on the wall for all British Marques. I am assuming that by the dropping of the s from maths you are from the USA (I apologise if this isn't the case), and as such were probably not knocking around the UK during the period in question, but let me tell you that the place was grim back then. The national labour force was heavily unionised and prone to strikes and walkouts at the drop of a hat, and the whole economy of the UK automotive industry was subsequently destroyed by near constant industrial action on the shop floor, and poor management higher up. Unlike their Japanese rivals, UK car and bike firms failed to reinvest properly in their products, instead assuming that a nationalistic brand loyalty would blinker buyers from seeing just how further ahead the Japanese were. You're right in saying that Triumph have an envious history and pedigree, but the linage of that pedigree withered on the vine during the 1970s, and in doing 'the math', like for like sales of Brit bikes against Japanese during this period tells you all that you need to know. Fortunately for me, being a big Triumph fan, the Marque was reborn in the 1990's and are now thankfully being made to the highest standards and are able to take on the world, standing toe to toe and holding it's ground against any other make out there, in design, reliability, performance and any other performance indicator you could list. So I was there, and I'm not talking crap. My memories are clear that from the mid to late 70's onwards, Triumph became an ever rarer sight on British roads, almost to the point of extinction, whereas the big 4 Japanese brands were common to the point of ubiquity.
@jamesclarkson30094 жыл бұрын
Wow Dean Scobie from the US of A took a serious beating from Britains VeeFour 🤣