Triumph Daytona 660 Review | A New Chapter Of Supersport?

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3 ай бұрын

The all-new Triumph Daytona 660 gets the 44T wrecking crew treatment at the launch in Spain...
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@adventuretimemoto 3 ай бұрын

Everyone: We want a street triple with fairings! Triumph: Here's a trident with fairings.

@ellwoodwolf 3 ай бұрын

And what gets me the absolute most, is the speed triple is almost the same price ! It's like 7% more out the door for SOOOO MUCH MORE !

@nockianlifter661 3 ай бұрын

They made one, no one bought it.

@adventuretimemoto 3 ай бұрын

@@nockianlifter661 ok well that's a fair point but I'd still be happy if they offered a fairing kit you could buy as an add on. And yes the trident with fairings will be a great bike around town. It's just when I think Daytona, I think raw performance razor sharp weapon. This isn't it. Market it as a trident R or something. It's kinda a slap in the face to those of us who miss the Daytona and didn't want to see it taken off the showroom floor.

@ZeeBri 3 ай бұрын

As the owner of a Street Triple Moto2 and a '17 Street Triple RS, there's a reason for that. The Moto2 is epic on track days but honesty on the road, the older bike with flat bars is more fun. There's a reason no ones buying sports bikes.

@NicePantsLance 3 ай бұрын

Daytona 675 and Daytona 765 moto2 sales figures say otherwise

@russwattsdrummer 3 ай бұрын

I think I’d still go for a lightly used 765R. Wouldn’t swap my 675R for one either. But I’m sure new riders will love it. ❤

@PeterPorsche1 3 ай бұрын

Exact same here. Used STR with ABS is great for new riders. I deeply love mine.

@CurtisBrandt 3 ай бұрын

Yeah this seems like a very different bike.

@ellwoodwolf 3 ай бұрын

Why ? They are almost the same price new... If you can afford a 9,320$ motorcycle, you can afford a 9,995$ motorcycle.....when you add on freight/tax/registration/prep it's like 6% more for a much better speed triple

@Villani_AV 3 ай бұрын

@@PeterPorsche1I'm sorry, a new rider really shouldn't be starting on a 100+ hp bike unless they're coming from dirt bikes tbh

@elvisthewart670 3 ай бұрын

Very boring to look at

@ShezzerNator175 3 ай бұрын

I think of this bike as a Trident RR I guess. The daytona was so sharp and had very premium componants for a 600cc class bike. I disagree with the name, but its clearly not a bad bike for what it is.

@pistonburner6448 3 ай бұрын

There is still a super-premium full-power version on the market: it's called MV Agusta.

@ellwoodwolf 3 ай бұрын

Should have called it the Jacksonville 660

@sleeper.simulant7327 3 ай бұрын

Do you know what the original Daytona was? The new model here is closer to the original than the super sport model was… even models until the early 2000’s like the 955i were a more laid back, plush version compared to other liter bikes… if anything the super sports you talk of are further from a Daytona…

@ShezzerNator175 3 ай бұрын

@@sleeper.simulant7327 Yeah, I get what you’re saying and fair point. But, if you said Triumph Daytona to a fellow motorcycle enthusiast they’d likely be thinking of the 2009-2016 models because they were… genuinely special, and a very focused sports bike.

@JamoSaye 3 ай бұрын

Looking forward to seeing how this compares to the new CBR650R

@jirihorsky9600 3 ай бұрын

15cc from greatness.

@Accost2u 3 ай бұрын

All these companies trying to convince us that these lukewarm 650s are suitable replacements for supersport 600s seems patronizing imho

@Masse24796 3 ай бұрын

These sub 100hp bikes are meant to be sold to A2 Riders, I'm glad that Honda and Kawasaki still do 600cc bikes

@7omBurrows 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you'll have to get used to it. Blame the various Governments of the world for introducing ever stricter emissions laws.

@moto_matt 3 ай бұрын

In fairness, no one bought the 600s any more, and none of the manufacturers are claiming these are proper sports bikes.

@Adam-mo2qw 3 ай бұрын

@tomburrows19 the cbr600rr and and zx6rr are available to anyone that wants to step up to a supersport.. I like that people have a lot more options now. Supersports are not practical for the road most of the time. Especially with the potholes around now

@isaacball2687 3 ай бұрын

They're not a replacement for supersports, they're are a completely different style of bike

@adamc209 3 ай бұрын

Great to see the regular content Al, legend!

@ThreeB78 3 ай бұрын

I don't understand the confusion over this bike. It's the same format as the CBR600F if I understand it correctly, not as aggressive as a supersport and more aggressive than a naked. More a sport touring setup I'd love one

@ducky237 3 ай бұрын

Do agree that there's a difference between what you want on the road & track 👍

@richardhale3177 3 ай бұрын

No suspension adjustment 😮 owned 30 bikes and not adjusted any of them and I suspect like 90% of riders.

@sleeper.simulant7327 2 ай бұрын

Adjustable suspension is really only needed for dialing in on the track. The a commuter bike it’s not that big a deal. My current bike has adjustable suspension and it works fine. But I’m fairly average size, 6 feet tall and 190 lbs…

@nockianlifter661 Ай бұрын

I’ve both adjusted and changed suspension. Setting up basic sag really is a necessity if you want a bike to ride and handle.

@nockianlifter661 Ай бұрын

@@sleeper.simulant7327 not true.

@sleeper.simulant7327 Ай бұрын

@@nockianlifter661 for commuting through traffic you don’t need adjustable suspension. If you’re looking to do track days or ride the canyons then you might want adjustments. But for the commuter it’s unnecessary…

@nockianlifter661 Ай бұрын

@@sleeper.simulant7327 If you’re outside of the standard setup then it makes the bike safer and more comfortable. Even commuting. Take my old Monster 1100s without any free sag in the rear, it was throwing me out of the seat over even the mildest bumps at low speeds. Having the ability to dial in some sag made it much easier to ride.

@timothymills733 3 ай бұрын

I am glad you addressed the handling, as I was confused by the "journos" that trashed it, as Triumph knows how to build bikes that handle well, and I would have been surprised if they had actually released a bike that handled as badly as they said.

@faceedgewoodworking 3 ай бұрын

Proper launch video, well done on a professional job. Thanks for answering my question too (bad UK Roads)

@cp4512 3 ай бұрын

Some great videos you’ve been pushing out recently 👍

@somatyk 3 ай бұрын

Hands down. The best review of this bike so far. Absolutely fu£#ing epic Al. The sound. The imagery. You guys absolutely smashed the competition to bits. And you managed to use the auto caption button. Which MCN hasn't worked out yet😂🤣

@Google_Does_Evil_Now 3 ай бұрын

Al Fagan, this review is making me want to test ride one of these bikes.

@ManxAndy 3 ай бұрын

Evening Al….I don’t have a bike at present, but….this is at the top of my list, for dipping my toe back in the water….fast enough, comfortable enough, cheap enough, and it’s British…well Triumph…👍😂👌🇮🇲

@FortyFourTeeth 3 ай бұрын

You’ll do alright with it!

@chukaone 3 ай бұрын

Do it. I'm like you and put in a deposit for this days ago.

@frumpyspud 3 ай бұрын

Manufactured in Taiwan

@davidoakes7192 3 ай бұрын

Nice to see a proper review and not from the point of view that we are all off to compete in the IOM TT on the bike. Top notch as always

@johnnyhun1 3 ай бұрын

-everybody: mehh this is not a supersport -also everybody: *buys a touring bike*

@rbattson7171 3 ай бұрын

Treat it for what it is... A road bike, not a track day bike. Most folk would be happy with this bike, great engine.

@shivamarya5225 3 ай бұрын

Most folks would be happy on modern middle-weight bike, the point of reviews is to see what you would be more value/fun for the money

@farazbaber409 3 ай бұрын

As always Al, your reviews are direct and clear to the point. I loved your point highlighting the fact that the brakes are ‘good’ regardless of the affixation over what others would regard as inferior if it did not have the branding badge - enjoy your reviews which is why I few years back I went out and bought a 765 RS on the back of your expert knowledge - just dont tell Chris I said that - he’ll get well jel! 😊

@themorganator 3 ай бұрын

you're in a class of your own right now Al. Fair play mate

@bakakun 3 ай бұрын

If Fagan says the suspension is okay, its good enough for my riding level. Gonna look to replace my 600F3 with one of these.

@Terraceview 3 ай бұрын

And then I'd gladly buy your F3!

@otakarlibal 2 ай бұрын

Wait you would replace an MV Agusta F3, with this? It's a completely different league of a bike, why would you downgrade so much?

@Terraceview 2 ай бұрын

@@otakarlibal CBR

@DJ_44 3 ай бұрын

I wasn't really looking for this to be as track-focused as the old daytona- but I was hoping they didn't dial it back too much that it would be bad on track. All your input plus the news of a race kit gives me tons of assurance- and I'd probably try and build one. Awesome review as always, Al!

@veedubgeezer 3 ай бұрын

The Daytona has always been a roadbiased sports bike. It moved away from that with the 675, but that's the exception and not the rule. Your reference to the Daytona 600 is the best way to compare. It's a great looking bike. I'd consider one if I were in the market for this sector.

@Silent3442 3 ай бұрын

44T is so damn gooooood! Thanks for all the quality content!!

@cowmath77 3 ай бұрын

Looks just like a Daytona 955i to me, seems like the suspension and motor have similar character as well to the 955i, just mini modern version.

@motomehanicar459 2 ай бұрын

Not really! Daytona 955 had a lot more power, better, fully adjustible suspension, better styling with mono rear, this "Daytona" can't be compared to early ones.

@cowmath77 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@motomehanicar459I didn’t write they had the same power, I wrote the character of the bikes is the same. IE the trident being a naked less powerful version of the Daytona 660, just as the speed triple 955i was naked and less powerful version of the Daytona 955i. The tiger 660 now acting as the sprint 955i. All of which were street oriented, lumpy power plants, 660 to 955i. It couldn’t be more obvious to anyone with a bare knowledge of triumphs street fighter lineup. Objectively, they look similar as well.

@motomehanicar459 2 ай бұрын

@@cowmath77 You didn't express yourself well enough in the first comment. Now that you explained well, your comment make sense.

@cowmath77 2 ай бұрын

@@motomehanicar459 you just wanted to tell someone they were wrong so you overlooked what I had actually written. Everyone else seemed to understand just fine.

@motomehanicar459 2 ай бұрын

@@cowmath77 Not really, everyone woud understand same as I did (that's why you have only 13 likes), but your desire to be understood and accepted is greater than any reasonable explanation. It is worthless to argue here coz' you have some issuses man.

@tonybarton3746 3 ай бұрын

Reference quick shifter , I’ve got the tiger sport 660 and I didn’t bother getting one , been riding 52 years and it’s got the lightest clutch action I’ve ever come across , plus seat height for smaller riders , had mine lowered by 2 1/2 cms with a lowering kit it’s now perfect , didn’t get a lower seat because not needed. Looks nice popping over to my dealer’s tomorrow to have a look . Love that deep red , my favourite colour 😊👍👍

@shadowred1980 3 ай бұрын

Looking forward to the group test of this class, when you can arrange it. :)

@HarveyRidesBikes 3 ай бұрын

Ahh i was there 2/3 days before with the brits! Hope to catch you at the next one

@neilbenton1152 3 ай бұрын

Looks fantastic value for the money tbh! My brother has the trident and that motor is lovely so this must be amazing , put some decent tyres on it job done ❤

@doone5303 3 ай бұрын

I like the look of it and the rideability around town seems pretty good, 30mph in 4th gear with no judder is decent.

@BrettObie 3 ай бұрын

I can see this being one of the most popular LAMs bikes here in Aus for quite a while

@loztagain8278 3 ай бұрын

What tyres would you go for and would they peel back, or reseat your foreskin on another ride out?

@user-si7fj5rh5u 3 ай бұрын

Coming from a Street Triple I can't get over how wispy the Trident etc engines sound...

@spirobouloukos511 3 ай бұрын

Great review. Amazing road!

@peteroneill2633 3 ай бұрын

Thanks old mate for being straight up. It is what it is. In this day and age it sounds like a great machine. Good commuter and got the herds when u want to give it soon. Keep doing what u r doing. 👌

@rafaellastracom6411 3 ай бұрын

Do you think that the suspension is capable of dealing with what the engine, which appears to be quite punchy, can dish out?

@luketerry1745 3 ай бұрын

Best review out there 👍

@JD2ndcity 3 ай бұрын

Think I'd take the Aprilia.

@RupeWilson 3 ай бұрын

I don't mind a base model that you can buy factory upgrades for. It's a great idea. It sounds like the engine is a peach, so it may be well worth it.

@paulconnell1309 3 ай бұрын

Change the forks and shock too.

@squidsleap 3 ай бұрын

The talk of a lack of a blipper makes me feel old. I am not young, that's for sure, im middle-aged, but im sonset in my ways that my last two bikes had blippers and I almost never used them. Muscle memory is a bitch sometimes. Id much rather a blipper on my dirt bike. Bouncing over ruts and roots while grabbing the clutch isn't very fun. I honestly wouldn't mind a bike like this with premium suspension. Im old enough to not care too much about power as long as its fun (90 to 120hp is fine) but im still living the glory days on track. My perfect bike would be a fully faired street triple RS with the pegs half inch higher amd half in back, the bars half in forward. I'm an oddly shaped smurf (30in inseam, 5ft 4in and 200lbs in a cow suit wil long arms) Someday id love to be able to get by with only 2 bikes but its just not possible. I need a track bike, a sport touring bike, a dualsport (larger for distance like a 690) and a 2 stroke because everyone needs a 2 stroke.

@bingwalker5024 3 ай бұрын

Good honest vlog ✊

@veeken777 3 ай бұрын

How would it fair against other market SSports like the Panigale baby 950, and most important is will it make your pillion squirt.

@TheToggleguy 3 ай бұрын

Seems like a more sporty version of the Ninja 650, a grand more expensive though!

@-festive-6342 3 ай бұрын

A grand more expensive with 30 more horsepower and with 300% more engine character I’d take this any day over a ninja 650

@MyChuck11 3 ай бұрын

that’s literally nothing for this upgrade, the kawasaki is basically unchanged since 2010, terrible brakes and boring engine

@ellwoodwolf 3 ай бұрын

I saw that a ninja 650 abs is 8900$ ... Flabbergasted at that nonsense.

@f270 3 ай бұрын

This looks like a great "budget" street bike but so close in price to the 765R. In the US it's $1K difference, making the 765R the obvious choice.

@MadChalet 3 ай бұрын

It's weird that they're priced so closely. The Street Triple is, as Al might say, worthy of a Casey Stoner. 😂

@Villani_AV 3 ай бұрын

Bet the insurance is cheaper, the street was double what I was paying on my cbr650r

@f270 3 ай бұрын

@MadChalet Very true. I have a 2020 RS that I absolutely love. I'm curious if, in the future, the Daytona's get big discounts making them more desirable.

@ManchesterRider 3 ай бұрын

Will be interesting to know the stats of sales figures for the new honda CBR600RR and CBR650R end of the year. If the CBR650R is sold much more, then unfortunately makes sense for the traditional superstore category to die out and this style taking over.

@lonpfrb 3 ай бұрын

No CBR600RR is not just for road use rather Supersport track and race too. CBR650R is son of CBR600F the do it all bike, so different uses, all perfectly valid.

@grtbgf 3 ай бұрын

Feels like the only sensible comment here. We have a bunch of Valentino Rossi's here shitting on any bike below 120 Hp.

@Fuzzerino 3 ай бұрын

Having ridden both (not current model year) its utterly baffling to me that people could walk into a dealership and pick a 650R over a 600RR, the 600RR is just vastly superior. If you want naked ergos, buy a naked, if you want a sportsbike, buy a sportsbike. Trying to merge both styles together is just making a compromised bike.

@lonpfrb 3 ай бұрын

@@Fuzzerino Each to their own preference. Honda must have the data to show that 650R is a winner for enough customers to make it worth building. It was the only 6X0 choice available from 2017 when 600RR was discontinued. 600F was on sale for decades before that so a market is there...

@alfie6426 3 ай бұрын

I'm sure they'll be a lot of haters, but this looks like a cracking bike for the money. Give us a 765 now Triumph!

@martinslocombe2288 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like a BMW k75s i know sad to say i had one for 5 years i loved it .

@Villani_AV 3 ай бұрын

I did too, LOVE that exhaust note

@morri03 2 ай бұрын

I’d rather have a K75S

@alrightdave6135 3 ай бұрын

Good review. Shame about the comments section.

@nockianlifter661 3 ай бұрын

Funny how the Tiger 660 reminds me of the Fazer 600 and this reminds me of the Thundercat.

@timothymills733 3 ай бұрын

I think this looks brilliant. I currently have a Street Triple and am thinking of adding this to the garage to compliment it. I really don't want a 765 Daytona, as except for a few track days each year, where would I be able to use its performance? This is a bike I could actually ride hard on the street without a constant threat to my license.

@ewganhoff 3 ай бұрын

Let's not kid ourselves here - 95hp is still seriously quick. I've owned a naked 91hp bike and I was still riding around over 100mph all the time. With a few more ponies, that slippy little fairing taking away some of the sensation of speed, and the more committed ergos, I think this is still a very nice little licence loser.😅 I know you can get lighter bikes with 200hp, but let's keep things in perspective - my licence would be barely any safer on this.😇

@willred9951 20 күн бұрын

i bought one, went from a gsxs750 and expected it to be a downgrade in power and i was fine with that because you can't use all that power on most roads unless they are straight anyway, i was actually very surprised at power delivery when i first rode it, iv owned a street triple and they would leave a gsxs750 for dead handling wise (i missed that), it handles better than the street triple i had aswell. power delivery and handling combined i think you would find it a very quick bike for the road and good everyday bike.

@davexs 3 ай бұрын

Same wheels as the 660, which I have broken 2 times front and rear in potholes, Thailand. Beware on UK roads of potholes. I can supply link of video evidence on the rim breakages. Other than that, I would buy one

@geniusanthony 3 ай бұрын

Launch season, wooo hoo. You are spoiling us with these daily uploads. Any new hotness going at JHS?

@fatblokediets9648 3 ай бұрын

This is a sport bike in the same way that lawn bowling is a sport.

@loftyintentions1985 3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@ktfcmatt 2 ай бұрын

Decent review 👍🏻 I’ve got a deposit down on one, just hoping it’s a worthy upgrade to my 2018 CBR650F.

@CJ-ph4gt 3 ай бұрын

Would you swap a 2016 GSXR 750 for one of these? I dont know...what about the street tripple RS 765 . Would i crave my gixxer if i sold it and bought one of these

@ttmadness34 3 ай бұрын

Cant wait to see all the comments from the ones who think it needs more power, bigger engine etc. Its usually the ones who wouldnt even be able to use the full potential of this bike on the road.

@kylejf9059 3 ай бұрын

I'm really not into these small bikes but imo, complaints about things like suspension comes from experienced riders: • new riders won't be pushing it like some of these journos have • new riders won't know the difference anyway I started on a CBR 600 F4 and thought it was absolutely fine. Until I bought something newer and could then understand the differences. Maybe you should do a group test with these types of bikes and get a couple of new riders to give their thoughts. Chuck in a cap and a t-shirt lol

@barrystuchbury1661 3 ай бұрын

Is it as good as the suzuki gsx-8r ?

@terryomara9403 3 ай бұрын

Great vid

@keithcarpenter5254 3 ай бұрын

A commuter for triumph fans?! 😮😊

@richardupcraft1287 3 ай бұрын

I decide after I see the PHR parts, can't find a sniff of them anywhere yet.

@onaimpulse6346 3 ай бұрын

Race kit! That's sold me on the bike now!

@michel7281 3 ай бұрын

Hi Al, how can the handling be vague due to the tires… they use the new Michelin Power 6 tires which everybody says are just super…? It is just a surprise they build down to a budget and then use these premium tires… or do you disagree? Do you hate Michelin tires?

@_Makanko_ 3 ай бұрын

Al's been a naughty boy so he got stuck with the Bavarians?

@FortyFourTeeth 3 ай бұрын

😂

@gilvietor1918 3 ай бұрын

Great video as always. It is attractive to my eye, and I get why they made it. I bet my wife would love this one, I am not some sort of pro mind you, remotely but I bet she would see this and just fall in love. It looks good, performs well, simple stuff not to be distracted by (electronics/screen). I'm new to the Triumph brand, I just left the KTM ranch absolutely love the fit and finish of these bikes, and honestly I had never been inside a Triumph dealership. I have a 2023 1200 GT Pro a 2024 street triple RS and a 2023 Husky 701 Enduro. I am just in love with the noises the triple makes, I hope Triumph gets more serious with the offroading stuff I'd love something other than my 701, nothing wrong with it mind you, just want to see some competition.

@djg9589 3 ай бұрын

Feels like the bike industry as far as sport bikes are concerned is either a nutty 1000cc that needs a tuning shop to unlock its potential fully, or a sub 100bhp twin. The 2 600’s that are made won’t last long because they won’t sell and again, because of euro 5 they’ll be shite in standard form.

@303MoTo 3 ай бұрын

9:08 - these are the real comments we're here for.

@AST4EVER 3 ай бұрын

22:24 .... NOOOOooooyyyyEEEESSSSS....

@gunarslodzins 3 ай бұрын

My wife would look great on the red one! Thanks for the review :)

@RawTopShot 3 ай бұрын

54mpg and you weren't hanging about. *THAT'S IMPRESSIVE*

@richardvowler1109 2 ай бұрын

"Leave for a man with a proper Daytona" 😂 I was or still am looking at this bike for my first time on bigger engine, but it does carry a lot of stigma with the daytona name. Sort of reminds me of the Toyota supra name being used for a car that wasn't really a supra, only by name. I guess being new to the triumph brand, all I really care about is if it's good on the roads and comfortable enough to be a first bike for some summer cruising.

@Villani_AV 3 ай бұрын

How would you compare this to the GSX8S and cbr650r?

@Villani_AV 3 ай бұрын

Also fuck the quick shifters man, get us cruise control. This class of bike crush miles, the first thing that hurts is your right wrist/hand after a few hours

@Its_PieRat 3 ай бұрын

Best reveiw so far

@alexashby6601 2 ай бұрын

Are these quicker than the r7?

@BL00MYB0Y 2 ай бұрын

The question about the wife leaving for a man with a real Daytona got me 😂😂😂

@andrewbozhozr 3 ай бұрын

But, how does it compare to new Suzuki 8R?

@pistonburner6448 3 ай бұрын

Ah, this really makes me appreciate the MV Agusta Brutale R so much...well, I'd prefer to spend some more on the Dragster.

@eddysobalak8923 3 ай бұрын

Where are roads you where riding on thanks

@2WCapo 3 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the last gen R3 up front.

@RawTopShot 3 ай бұрын

Would you say it's close to a CBR650 in ergonomics?

@martinfisker7438 3 ай бұрын

Love the sound of triumph triples

@toulow 3 ай бұрын

I didn't quite believe you that the bike was easy to flick, but if you watch the lead bike @ 11:26 when he leans from right to left, I think the only time I've ever seen a bike transition that quick is MotoGP or when they're about to highside XD

@sibzy1 3 ай бұрын

This is the review I have been waiting for. Can't wait to the long loaner of the 1390 as well

@essexboydave 3 ай бұрын

So what your saying is if I want a bike that’s like sitting on the toilet while holding a broken pool cue This is the bike for me 👍

@TommieTrumper-TFC1200 3 ай бұрын

I think its an excellent post full bike test bike but I wish they had called it the Silverstone or Snetterton 660 not the Daytona..

@camarojohnni 3 ай бұрын

this or a second gen street triple r?

@fizzyridertoo 3 ай бұрын

Great test Al.I wonder how far behind you those journos complaining about the suspension were?

@martinverboom6434 3 ай бұрын

Might be nice to compare is to a Ducati Supersport! Although the price level is far apart, it serves the same goal.

@KSFishUnlimited 3 ай бұрын

I knew the comments were going to be filled with people complaining that this isn’t a true Daytona and that’s fine but not everyone wants a squid missile. Though I do have to say I love my Daytona 675….

@fireice1997 3 ай бұрын

I’m so happy that we’re kinda back in the 80’s with how bikes are being made. I’ve had quite a few 1000cc bikes and to be honest they aren’t that fun. Yeah they are fast but they do exactly what you’d think they would. I got a CFmoto 450ss for the fuck of it and I’m completely in love with it. Everyone wants to talk to me about and the quality is totally fine for what it is. I literally was riding and keeping up with my buddy who has a 30k Ducati v4. This is completely subjective but I find it more fun to be blown away by a budget bike they have a meh experience on an expensive bike. Just so you know I’m not talking out of my ass I’ve own 23 bikes of all kinds but that includes bmw s1000rr x 2, s1000r, Ducati 1199, Kawasaki H2. And again a ton of other bikes and I’d take the new CFmoto 450ss over any of those 1000cc bikes. I’m not shit at riding however I will never be able to ride a 1000 to its limits. I’m very excited to see the middleweight bikes have such juicy engines and electronics. Thank you for coming to my TED talk 😂

@lonewolfriding3815 3 ай бұрын

It’s more setup as a sports tourer realistically but the manufacturers know that most young people think sports bike sounds cooler etc. I’m glad they had another option it’s just a shame the black one looks cheap but isn’t so ugly at least