agreed. the gladi is more equipped with those mud terrains. tires are everything

Even if they have the same tires the Tacoma isn't going to keep up with the Jeep! Jeep in off road beats anything that the Tacoma has to offer. Fyi: current 2020 Toyota tacoma trd pro owner, previously owned 2017 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon unlimited.

@@kevencouch3291 Agreed. I had 2015 Willys and now 2020 TRD OR

Amen

Agree. And plus the Jeep would break down after like a couple years and the Tacoma would last as long as you want

TFL’s kind of a joke (with exception of Tommy) when it comes to testing and reviewing vehicles. Too much feelings/bias involved and not enough science and actual testing. TK is my #1 go-to for real reviews.

@@driveshift I've always felt this way. They do good videos, like the Ikes and the off road videos, but unless Prospector Pete aka Mr. Truck is there there is lack of in depth knowledge.

TFL went downhill, I unsubscribed to their channels, waste of time. Truck King is great! I found a few other good truck/ off-roading channels to replace TFL entirely.

*over any other midsized truck

Tacoma is terrible drivetrain wise. Most inconsistent shifting in any vehicle ever. Gladiator, ZR2, Ranger kill the Tacoma. And I’ve been a Tacoma fan forever.

Manuals Rule

Man, I just love driving my manual truck. It may be a bit harder to use off-road, but it feels so good!

Agree.

Yas my 2012 TRD sport 4x4 is manual, haven't thought about offroadin with it but it's a fuckin blast to drive 👍🏼👍🏼

@@uno3863 you need to hit some smile dirt!

Thanks! Will do!

Jeeps have that too. They just don't have a fancy switch for it. It's been part of Jeeps for years, in 4 low you could always start in in gear without clutch.

Just make sure your in neutral! I had an 88 that took a trip down a bank and into a tree lol.

@@nickboucher8895 too bad Jeep’s manual transmission is garbage now

My frontier has it too.

My Impreza has this, too, they call it an e-brake. Bonus it's also fun for pitching it sideways.

Jeeps have been fairly reliable for a number of years now and the 3.6L Pentastar has almost no reliability issues. It’s also the best selling V6 in Canada. Lots of people complain about the reliability of Jeeps but they haven’t been major reliability issues for a pretty long time.

@@blackstratus2664 comparing Jeep's reliability to Toyota's is like comparing the Clippers Body of work to the Lakers. I have a WK2 GC Trailhawk in the garage right now and while I really enjoy it, it doesn't compare with my 2010 4Runner or 03 Tundra on the reliability scale.

@@seamuspdolan there are many Jeeps out there with over 300k on them with next to no issues, and there are many new Toyota’s with huge reliability issues. Older Toyota’s were great, newer ones not as good. Neither is bad, its just a lot of people complain about Jeep reliability and its not a concern anymore, and hasn’t been for quite some time now.

@@blackstratus2664 lol ok....www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

@@seamuspdolan ive owned 5 Wranglers since 1996 and have never had any major issues other than the dumb shit I did myself and tried to say “it just broke”. None of my other Jeep owning friends have any major problems either.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lol

I would make the same noises if I had his job!

Yeah. I am with you. I have had my current TJ since 2005. My water pump went out, that is it. And that was probably my fault as it was sitting a lot at the time and I think the seal dried up.

The pentastar is a super stout motor! Chrysler issues as of lat are electronics, and they didn't put much into the gladiator... with the tougher suspension and axles it should be one of the toughest light duty trucks on the market

I agree with you, I had many mopars including a 2021 Gladiator Mojave and enjoying all of them. The gladiator I've modified with winch and an aftermarket front bumper. That is what is good about a Jeep, have it your way.

I’ve had 5 Wranglers since 1996 and no real problems other that the dumb stuff I did myself.

They don’t anymore I’m just hoping this won’t be the last gen with a manual

It's all fun and games until you need the frame replaced. At least they addressed that issue. Just wish they would fully update the Toyota more. Rear drum brakes and an old motor andtyranny, seriously 😳.

I’m failing to understand here. You admit the Jeep is better off road then follow up by saying the Tacoma is better off-road? I mean the Jeep Wrangler is a purpose built truck. You can tow with a tacoma, you can off road a tacoma, but it’s pretty subpar in both those aspects.

Better yet, get a ZR2 and have over $25k in your pocket. It doesn't need tire or suspension upgrades because it has everything on it already. No brainer

@@shiftmotorsports9803 Chevy is junk though. Only problem with your comment.

You mean a Toyota over a fiat?

@@Joe-gy4sd Stellantis now

Hey, bud, you should be careful with the Toyota garbage: www.google.co.cr/search?hl=es&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=767&ei=n5MtXK--EMmv5wLonLKIBA&q=toyota+rust+recall&oq=To&gs_l=img.1.0.35i39j0l9.5213.5831..9433...0.0..0.118.231.0j2......1....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.ZzRqwaNRQec Toyota reliable? hahaha. Greetings from Costa Rica.

What are you talking about, I rented a jeep for a whole week on my Hawaii vacation and it was awful. The road noise was annoying, my family hated the back seat they said the felt worst than the seats in the Suttle bus at the airport, the poor insulation make the jeep feel cheap everytime you close the doors. The inside is not smaller than the tacoma but it feels claustrophobic in there. On the Driving side it felt awful in the hwy, any drive longer than an hour was a pain. I rented the jeep trying to convince the wife to trade in our 2018 tacoma off road and I'm so happy I did cause after the 1 day honeymoon fase I hated that piece of shit

Our pleasure!

And we all know the answer

There’s literally a Facebook group called “Jeep Gladiator Problems” , couldn’t find anything similar for the Tacoma even though the 3rd Gen hasn’t been as reliable as the 2nd gen. 😂

I have a Tacoma

@@99jeep1 good for you

And that's about all that matters.

That's your fault, the 3.6 V6 is not designed for the full size SUV, FCA only puts them in base units for a reason, it's slow and stressed to all hell pulling that thing around, hence why the V8s are mid trim and up. You should like the kind of person who bought a Jeep commander back in the day with a 3.7 and complained when It died at 50,000 miles because it overheated at every speed because the engine was not big enough for the weight.

@@deepbludreams lol imagine telling the owner of a vehicle it’s their fault fca builds a garbage product, jeep owners are a deluded bunch

@@abjeepify guess you are just ignoring that era when Tacoma frames would bend 45 degrees when picked up by a lift, almost as if a severe design flaw caused rust on the inside of the frame

Glad to hear it!

Glad you like them! eh?

Just pointing out the Jeeps tires were factory installed, the Taco's were aftermarket. If you want to make aftermarket changes they should be the same, otherwise keep'em stock for the comparison.

And for 10,000 bucks less

@@TM-qn3qj You're right, dude. Greetings from Costa Rica.

also the tacoma is top off road spec and the gladiator isnt even a rubicon but still outperformed

Why is it that Toyota drivers are especially inept and timid? And what makes Toyota so special that bad drivers are drawn to its car like moth into open flames? My theory is that Toyota (and Lexus) drivers are humor-less drones who, following Darwin's theory, have self-selected into driving the very soul-sucking cars that defines their personality.

Tacomas or 4runners

@@jakedank2746 Let me break it down to you: Over 15 years, I was doing automotive mechanical investigations averaging about 2,000/year. 1-2 of them were Toyotas, and usually due to abuse or lack of maintenance. The rest - all kinds of jeeps. Hope it helps.

You'll think differently after driving the new jeep gladiator

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk I considered that actually, so I drove one. I just wasn’t impressed, I liked it but didn’t love it. It was so long and without a lift & bigger tires would get hung up on everything.

With proper care, it will not die...

He made the video fun

plus the toyota will last three times as long as the jeep

@@jonathanseitz8644 Doubtful.

@@jonathanseitz8644 funny thing about that, i bought a jl sport s in 2018, been wheeling it for 3 1/3 years and daily driving it, had 0 problems so far. My buddy bought a tacoma in march boasting that it would outlast my wrangler this and that toyota reliability blah blah.... well his tacoma lasted until august and the transmission melted the first three gears together. mind you it never went off road, never towed a thing it broke down going 35 on a fresh paved road. toyota and jeep are not the same as they were half a century ago. times have changed

@@SanctumOfDreams you are right they arnt the same as a century ago i acually own both i have a 2017 CHEROKEE trail hawk which is amazing off road as well and a 2002 tundra my tundra has 200000 + and still runs like the day i bought it amazing truck my cherokee has 25000 miles on it and has had the whole rear diff replaced driver side rear wheel bearing engine ticks like a 1942 sherman tank and i always use full synthetic oil almost feel like it may have been a lemon but i hear you i work for honda manufacturing and our cars are junk nothing like the cars we used to build times are changing

Agreed. I own a couple Jeep Wranglers and Tacoma. I prefer the TJ because I can work on it easier than the JL. The JL has so many problems with engine and electrical. While my Tacoma is about to hit 100k and only maintenance I have done is fluids, brakes, and tires. This April I will sell the JL. Don't think I will invest in a new Jeep anytime soon. I will be interested in the new Gen 4 Tacoma that comes out in a couple years. I wouldn't get the Pro, because for the money you can better upgrade suspension and tires yourself for the money. The only thing I love about the pro's is the paint options.

Its the one thing that has kept me from getting the tacoma trd pro time and time again. The seating position, as well as rear seat leg room. I am only 6' tall but in my driving position no one can sit behind me. It sucks because I absolutely love how the tacoma looks.

@Chonch You driving position should be so that your arms are bent at 90°. If you are sliding your seat back to the point that your arm are straight or near straight you are too far back. I'm 6'1" and have no problem with the Taco. I own a Wrangler but drove Tacos in the military. In every driving school both on and offroad this is what's taught.

@@juanticimo Im 6' and got seat jackers which raise the seat like 1.5" and it makes a hell of a difference in seating feel. It's like a new vehicle. I even did it on the passenger side and can now mount a compressor and CB under the seats with room to spare.

In my Pro I can raise the seat till my heads out the sunroof. Why are you all sitting on the floor? Just raise the damn seat.

....and disk brakes, comfortable adjustable seats, off-road tires....

@@marckruse2181 and the list goes on and on

How many miles on the Wrangler?

@@rightlanehog3151 179,000 4.0 5-Speed. Runs really nicely!

@@gatto190 That old AMC straight 6 was a good engine.

I live in Europe and can get a g350 diesel, but I'm looking forward to import a US made pickup. Raptor vs TRD pro Tacoma, what would You choose and why? BTW does the Tacoma have 2 or 3 lockers?

cuck if you would bought a automatic jeep id prob make fun of you

😂 they take less money and don’t know we want the manuals more than the automatics. You stole it

Amen brother.

Jeep died a long time ago. Its a Fiat-chysler product with Jeep badging

@@freeravenadventures6925 They already had a reputation for bad reliability way before FCA was a fact.

And this test was a little biased in my opinion, the Tacoma had two disadvantages and even though she went over all the obstacles easy, imagine using bigger better tyres which not only will give it better traction but also higher clearance

Agreed

I'd never use it while in gear though haha

My 89 Mazda B2600i 4x4 pickup had clutch start cancel, as did my 89 Nissan D21 4x4 pickup....its not a Toyota thing.

Toyota goes off old reputation while Jeep is bringing new & exciting products to the 4x4 landscape. Haters will always take jabs at Jeep & probably never owned one. I’m on my 3rd Wrangler - very durable vehicles.

We agree!

Thanks 👍

Glad you like them!

Are they much older Jeep’s or newer ones? Modified or stock? I’m genuinely curious. Thanks.

@@NickCasciani I’ve seen mostly older Jeeps...heavy modifications definitely not daily drivers. Broken u-joints, axle shafts, blown tires.... hmm what else, ran into newer Jeeps with over heating problems and one that stalled and couldn’t be started again..Jeeps are POS. I would never buy one ..

Can confirm. I owned a 00 jeep for many years, constantly working on it and I didn't go wheelin often. It was my daily driver. I don't know maybe I got a lemon. I sat in a 2020 taco and I didn't fit in it because I'm 6' 3". I went back to my roots and bought a 93 toyota truck i stumbled upon and I dig it the most.

Your right about the jeep owner breaking down and needing something, that WAS me after I bought my Tacoma now I stop to help the jeep owners , what a difference it is owning a Tacoma and everything else ....

must just be i've had good luck only problem i've had is a very minor gas leak in the evap system

Mojave is nice, but I'd still choose the gladiator rubicon with the front locker and diesel, Mojave didn't come in diesel/front locker. Got my rubicon about a year and few months and already put 17k miles on it with no issues whatsoever. But the TRD is nice too, just not for me I guess, sold it before I got the gladiator

​@victorradu3986 all about what you'll be doing with it, I spend much more time going fast on terrible roads and going fast offroad than I do "crawling" being as I'd need to travel to find anywhere to do that. So for me the mojave makes more sense and is actually the smarter choice. Had mine for almost a month and a love it

Might want to use Google before you post hypocritical information

⁠​⁠​⁠@@shiftmotorsports9803Might want to use Google before you post hypocritical information

you are correct, I noticed on this on the video as well. This is standard on Jeeps and has been for years, they just don't bother putting a switch with a fancy name on it on their vehicles

Tacoma has the clutch bypass too, at at least since 1994.

Yes- was surprised he didn’t know the Jeep’s have this built in, and that it is specifically for water starts.

Yup only a sucker would pay 40k for a tacoma that has a plastic dash which rattles and crack in 5 years. And plus reliability for Toyota was based on there 3.4l v6 not the 4.0 or 3.5 which are trash.

That's going to be less of an issue as the JL (the basis for the Gladiator) was a massive upgrade over the JK (the previous one) for starters no more FCA designed transmission, the manual is an off the shelf unit FCA purchased, but more importantly the 8 speed automatic is purchased from a German company, ZF, this unit is found in everything from Rolls Royce to BMW, the 8HP is a massively strong transmission. It's also objectively better than the manual, the 8 series from ZF can accept a lower first gear than the manual 6 speed does, the ratio is considerably lower. That transmission can handle 707 horsepower put out by the Hellcat engines, pretending it will suddenly fail is pretty stupid when it's used by the some of the highest end car makers on earth. The Gladiator also uses the the same gauge struts as found on the Ram 1500, a vehicle designed to pull 12,000 pounds, they are a thicker gauge than the Tacoma's, so again not an issue, if anything the Tacoma's are now the more likely units to fail in this regard, and when you bring the Mojave trim Gladiator into this, it's even heavier, the Ford Raptor has less frame reinforcement that the Mojave does. The TLDR is the jeep's problems are a thing of the past, the only concern is the Pentastar, you really need to give jeep another chance if we are going to be honest, the jeep JK was designed in 2006 under Jeep's worst management to be cheap as possible, the JL was designed under FCA who wanted to sell the jeep brand across the entire planet....they are two very different vehicles and made very differently, the only major parts they share is the Pentastar V6, that's the only point of concern i'd still have with a modern Wrangler/Gladiator.

@Brian Jones first time for everything

Brian Jones My 2020 TRD OFF ROAD has been great to me! Both are awesome Jeep and Tacoma.

I’ve had both a Tacoma TRD off-road, JK, and CJ5. They all have their purposes, the jeep is better off-road but is also much less practical (at least my jk). The Tacoma is obviously the better daily driver and is much more reliable, while the jeep is a fun weekend warrior/off-roader. In my opinion, the Tacoma handles a lot better than the jeep (to be expected with ifs) but would get stuck before the jeep. However, the idea of wheeling a $45-55k truck hurts my head.

@@gsmith7162 I’ve been daily driving my JKU since 2015 and do not understand why folks keep implying they are hard to live with except as weekend toys. To each their own, but the Jeep gets me there and back every time, every day. Longest trip to date was the 5000km round trip to the end of the trans-taiga with a stop at James Bay. Never once felt uncomfortable nor uncertain of the Jeep’s reliability. Then most recently a weekend in VMUTS- no fuss, no bother. Not downplaying the legendary reliability of the Toyota, but the Jeep holds its own.

@@WilliamBarrow I agree, the wrangler will still get the job done. However, my particular wrangler had quite a few issues and was not cheap to maintain. Now, I have family with a 2015 and 2018 wrangler, and it seems like Jeep/Chrysler has fixed most of these issues, but they still initially handle about the same. It’s just the nature of the beast (a tall/boxy SUV with solid axles). IMO, The main takeaway from the wrangler is that it’s untouchable off-road and highly customizable. However, I don’t think the wrangler has ever really been known for its longevity; even the most recent models have sealed/unserviceable components, which will effect the longevity of those towing, off-roading, water crossing, etc. In short, the very design of the Jeep’s body, frame, and driveline is for off-roading and has changed very little in the past decade or two. This makes them impractical for daily driving when compared to cheaper, newer designed, and similarly equipped cars/trucks. They just don’t handle as well, they aren’t designed to; they are sold as fun/modifiable cars. Sure they can be a DD (such as mine was) but most don’t purchase a wrangler for handling, longevity, or practicality; they do because they are fun cars. Out of all of the cars I’ve owned, my jeep was the least practical and handled the worse on-road but was still the most fun car I’ve owned to date. Unfortunately, I’m at a place where I can’t sacrifice the aforementioned items for the wrangler.

Sorry can't do it. No budget for that.

@@TruckKing Maybe one day!

Probably not possible when borrowing trucks from the manufacturers 🤔

You run what you brung and deal with it as it comes from the dealers- fair as hell.

@@TruckKing just do it in one car and then take them off and install on the other

Merry Christmas to you too Mike.

I put K02's on right away

You might want to check on the resale value:)

@@MrOri already have, :)

@@norsemanix2358 Technically you are right, because there is no resale value yet for the gladiator. But if we look at the wrangler how many years is in the first spot. So....

@@MrOri the resale is better than any Jeep Wrangler, and that's a fact, I don't know wtf are you talking about

@@RagingBad What I was trying to say is that from the wrangler has the best resale value from SUVs, beating the 4Runner. Nobody knows what the resale value is going to be for the Gladiator, because you need five years to see it. So saying that the Taco has a better resale value then the Gladiator it's not true yet. We have to wait and see:) There is no reason to use the F word. We are just talking about trucks.

Hey, bud, you must kidding or you just came from Mars: www.google.co.cr/search?hl=es&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=767&ei=n5MtXK--EMmv5wLonLKIBA&q=toyota+rust+recall&oq=To&gs_l=img.1.0.35i39j0l9.5213.5831..9433...0.0..0.118.231.0j2......1....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.ZzRqwaNRQec Toyota reliable? hahaha. Greetings from Costa Rica.

@@waltermeono5253 no not kidding mate! The frame issue was fixed! I am talking about overall reliability! I have friends with Rams and they have all sorts of problems! Cheers

@@BabakPA Of course, it was mandatory, Toyota had to fix it (and must be fixing it yet), obviously all brands have to fix every issue, but if that incomparable and insuperable rust issue would have plagued Jeep, haters whould have blamed the brand and ridiculizing it, right? But Toyota fans are so special, they are unable to realize nothing bad about their loved brand. Additionally, almost every day there are recalls for Toyota, "the king of recalls": www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-12/the-king-of-auto-recalls-isnt-gm-its-toyota www.autoweek.com/news/a1858386/toyota-frame-settlement-could-cost-company-34-billion/ www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-05/toyota-recalls-1-million-cars-mainly-prius-on-risk-of-fire www.autonews.com/regulation-safety/toyota-recall-nearly-700000-vehicles-over-fuel-pump-problem? www.autoblog.com/2020/06/24/toyota-prius-v-recall/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS91cmw_c2E9dCZyY3Q9aiZxPSZlc3JjPXMmc291cmNlPXdlYiZjZD0mY2FkPXJqYSZ1YWN0PTgmdmVkPTJhaFVLRXdpWHRmaVRwNTdxQWhVaG0tQUtIUS0yQnJ3UUZqQUVlZ1FJQVJBQiZ1cmw9aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cuYXV0b2Jsb2cuY29tJTJGMjAyMCUyRjA2JTJGMjQlMkZ0b3lvdGEtcHJpdXMtdi1yZWNhbGwlMkYmdXNnPUFPdlZhdzE3TDBHbG4tSmtHNlNvc2ZHRHRzVmY&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIo0s6H9ciTQLXZrWY__ckrqefrpXwVQnLsB0zg2HYZX7OXDJRbaRUzFx2HIFY9TH3j2QJGTK7YLgaeV67DYevHb0t-RXZyz-Eeb4XOZd6WJXC44Wsf_Ovpwx9aL7HROKEgSRXFFtybqFaDR5HxHmblZcXZa6dxSGc0cmQGvrJPU abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-probing-engine-fires-19m-toyota-rav4-suvs-76181633 And finally, the official list of recalls from Edmonds for you to enjoy next weekend. I hope you update your Toyota's issues (reliability) information: www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html Toyota reliable? It's a real and fine joke, don't you think so? Greetings from Costa Rica.

Ive Owned two dodge Dakotas a 96 and a 2002 and both of those trucks served me well with no issues. I just traded a 17 Tacoma for a 2020 GMC sierra. I'll never own another Tacoma!

@@waltermeono5253 You are not a used chryslers saleshole by any chances, are you?

Congratulations, I just purchased a 2021 TRD DCSB 4x4 and I’m loving it more & more everyday , the more I drive it the more I love it ...

Wow, thanks!

Yeah, what a GREAT job these guys do!

Other than the infotainment, Tacoma interiors look modern and attractive.

Nooo, it still has a early 2000s vibe. The competition has really stepped it up vs. them

Take care of the Jeep and not tear it up and it will last just as long as the toyota

I agree on the Toyota interiors but the more tech and other stuff you put in them the less reliable they become.

The thing about Toyota's is that they get straight to the point with the quality of the vehicle they don't worry about how pretty the inside is they just make sure it is built to do what it needs to

I'm an Off-Road Tacoma owner and love it, but your new ride sounds sweet. Life is good😁 Enjoy

10 k difference in base models there was almost a 15k difference in models tested

my 2015 Rubicon JKU is worth 90% of what I paid for it 5 years ago.

Guess you haven't priced a used Jeep latey

Location seems to matter with Jeeps. I live in Pennsylvania near Butler and Jeeps hold their value very well here. When I read articles in JP magazine from the west coast, and they go over price ranges for used Jeeps, I find that what would get you a solid vehicle on the west coast wouldn't be enough to buy a broken down pile of rust around my neck of the woods.

Fact... dollar for dollar, jeep looses to Tacoma every time in resale.

Jeep cult members are actually willing to pay a lot to their idol.

Exactly, and the Tacoma went over every obstacle easy as well even having those 2 disadvantages

I had an 08, gas guzzling, and the front independent suspension wouldn't stay aligned, rear axle bearing failures, and front differential howl/growl TSB which required replacing the front differential due to crap bearings, apparently they continued to use trash bearings for a few years as the rear axle bearing and front differential bearing issues were common up until the 2010 or 2011 model years if I recall. The cam tower oil leaks in the 5.7L V8 were pretty common as well up until 2014 if I recall. Yep, not a Toyota fan much anymore after my 08 Tundra mess...my 05 Tundra however has been problem free for 169k miles.

my jl has 0 issues the last 3 1/2 years ive had it and it sees a a whole lot more abuse than my buddies tacoma which lasted 5 months and saw 0 off road usage

Get a Tacoma, I wish I never even bought Jeep and got a Taco in 207

@@peterjanjanin9883 haha the new Wranglers are pretty good. I haven't had any issues with mines so far. Plus I like that the Gladiator Rubicon comes with solid axles front & rear, front & rear lockers, sway bar disconnect, rock rails, better ground clearance etc.

Thanks, but not sure Roman cruises our comments.

@@TruckKing They've got Andre cruising through these comments and taking names-every 48 hours-just to keep things honest.

@@TruckKing Lml

Glad you enjoyed it!

I think it's a fair comparison. Both have a single locking rear axle. A similar geared t case and a few others. If I were to get a gladiator it would be a mojave and just add in a front locker. The rubicon gearing is a bit much for my needs.

I’m glad you clarified that. I bought the Rubicon over the Mojave for that reason.

Sounds good!