Can’t believe you posted a FaceTime with your psychologist, love it splintered

its like jesus and satan in a zoom call

On Lurpivs: ”They are ahead of their time” ”In some ways” In most ways. Even released them before their time.

Only Ben De Gros and Gifted Hater can talk about nothing but trucks for over an hour

Not the collab we deserved, but the collab we needed

THE COLLAB WE NEEDED

Gifted Hater and Ben Degros, this can’t get any better

Absolutely devious of you to do this

fell asleep with my tv on and woke up to this and thought I might've been hallucinating lol

"I dont like different, It gives me feeling's and I dont want to have feeling's " - Ben Degros such a real voice during these times

Hey Guys, just a FYI RE: Theeve Trucks, they are very naughty. We agreed to sell them our patented BONES bushings when they began, and did so, years ago. After many months, we discovered they were not purchasing our Bushings any more, but still promoting their trucks as having Bones Bushings. After investigating, we learned that they had reproduced our bushings in China, and were representing them as originals. This caused us to sever our relationship and send them a cease and desist letter. If they are still saying that their trucks come with Bones bushing, they are lying to skaters, and if they don't ride like Bones bushings, that's' because they aren't. Some companies outright lie, cheat and steal, so beware.

It’s a good thing that Ben is such an honest, upright guy, because in a sea of California voices, him and his Vancouver accent could convince me to buy anything.

Ventures were a good £15 cheaper per set than any other truck in the UK. When you’re a kid with little to no budget, that was a big persuader.

love ben degros, hes the perfect person for this tier list lol

The perfect collab doesn’t exi- 😳😳😳

One hour video on a video with no ads and now revenue, true hero of the skate community. Keep up the work we love you.

as someone who skates Thunders religiously i was so confused about how they didn’t get brought up until 52:37 lmao

Watch both of you a lot and genuinely enjoy hearing Ben on a more silly tip. This video was super great.

Oh man Ben degros has held me down this past year of me learning to skateboard. Glad you guys got together!

ive skated thunders my entire skate career and on top of grinding perfect the way thunders make riding a skateboard feels, stepping on my friends indy setups but they feel like a soggy waffle

This give me hope for the future of skateboarding on KZfaq. Well done all involved, everything said was on the money.

Those exact venture lows you pulled up are literally the only ventures I actually loved cause venture highs are a weird grind. I also loved Silvers with the thread protectors on them, hated destructos, am now a die hard indy hollow fan. All five setups Indy’s, one with mindys but they’re too heavy

Thank you Ben, for coming on and sharing your wisdom about trucks with Joa and I, and everyone else.

NO WAY LMAOOOOO THE crossover is insane acc smiled seeing the thumbnail for this just recenty came across your channel but been a longtime fan of Bens, glad this happened

Glad to see the classic indy come out on top, even after all the methodical breakdowns and benefits of everything else. Some trucks may do specific things better, but only the indy does everything well.

Love the synergy between you two. Side note: I remember when I was 12 I had my first real board, a black label green elephant deck and a set of Webb trucks. Best looking trucks ever, they were yellow and they looked so awesome. Good talk from both of you! One Love!

Sitting at home with Covid and your videos help me keeping my head up and getting stoked for skating after i feel ok again. thank you!

I'm a subscriber of both of them, always great content. Happy that these two made this video together..

I need this in podcast form every 7 days, thankyou.

Are you kidding me. What an incredible video for someone in a truck craze. Plus the 2 best youtubers. Thanks guys

The most legendary and important collab of all time i stg 🙏🏽🖤

dude i love this collab so so much my favorite youtubers in one vid. sick man

the legends. the combo. the counterpart to youtube skater bullshit content

the best part of this video is at 43:27 where when he types Royal Trucks into google a rolling garbage bin pops up

My favorite dudes on KZfaq in 1 video. Sick!

The absolute perfect collab! You guys are my 2 absolute favorite skateboarding related youtubers! Amazing video!

Epic collab. I needed this in my life. I think the weight savings of the Indy Titaniums have more of a place on 159s-169s. I skate 159s on an 8.75 and the Titaniums feel right. Gotta say those Mini Logos turn great, not heavy, pinch and grind great but umm yeah...

Mini Logo? I heard they're good. Like really good. Too good. Send them to the dungeons! 🙃

Thank you GH! All love from Canada!

Hearing Ben say dude it’s exactly like a cyber truck made my year

Ben’s coughing sound effect gave me new life.

1 hour with big daddy degros OMG poggers

This is way more fun to watch than it has any right to. Loved it

This was incredible, what a great collab!

I went from Krux to Indie Hollows and it took me a couple of weeks to get used to being able to turn so sharply (that and finding the right combo of bushings that didn't instantly split under my fat ass). I still use my Krux and find them fine. They might be designed for the heavier-than-average skater or something.

Regarding Ace turns, they now have hard bushing that are 94A so the stability is way better on those than standard bushings. Hope more people can try those out!

I’ve only ever skated ventures and thunders and I’m not really even good enough to care but I’m still fully enjoying this long form content.

this is the video im referencing from now on regarding trucks, thank you benny and the jets

I can definitely vouch for mini-logo trucks. Honestly some of the best feeling trucks I’ve ever skated

40 min in and I'm like wow I've watched this for 40 min. My two faves, naughty and nice... Glad this collab became a thing.

This is the best KZfaq vid I haven't watched yet. Can't bloody wait!

I love the Aera feature lol, lets not forget the DH scene. We pay 600 for a set of trucks. And still go on to spend 200 bucks on bushings. No I'm not joking.

I started skating in 1995. Indys were always the best. We used to get Destructos for free from the shop rep. They were fine back in 1999. Grind Kings were always the most expensive trucks or close to it. My friend rode for them and Grind King Skateboards, which was effectively just a continuation of Society Skateboards. The kingpins on Grind Kings would back out or dig into your board if you threaded them in too tight. That wasn't a problem for Daewon who kept them relevant for a lot of years. Trackers were always the bottom of the barrel and cheapest trucks at the shop. Orions were one of the few trucks I actually broke back in the day -- like the hanger and the kingpin. Just horrible trucks that were kept alive by a great team, which included (if I remember correctly) Kalis, Dyrdek, Koston and Berra (before he was so maligned). I never liked Ventures, but the older guys form the early '90s did as they were genuinely lighter than the rest. There were other dodgy trucks from the '90s. Titan trucks actually sold for more than Grind Kings, but were terrible. Recently, I got a pair of the newer Indys with the kingpin that threads into the base plate. They were given to me. They're horrible unless you like the Matt Rodriguez loose-truck approach. You've got to blue Locktit the kingpin if you want it to not back out. I skated with a few people on companies like Royal who'd ride Indys undercover. Long story short, Indys or Thunders. That's the conclusion I've come to after 27 years riding a skateboard.

Bruh. Ben. Vancouver Carpenter. OG of OG's.

the collab we've all been waiting for.

Lol yoo it's funny but appreciated that yall split the truck heights for ventures, the lows are really a different world.

I loved every second of this.

2:59 You definitely meant Zach Dowdy. I believe Zach Doelling skates for minilogo trucks or something lol

this whole video was so endearing, love u guys

Thunder Lights are god teir for flatground, prefer them to Venture Lows, Tensor Mag Lights, Mini Logos and Aces. Great VIdeo, the Gifted Hater X Ben Degro-lab is what the skate world needed.

You and Ben could be 9 club status if you started a podcast.

As someone who’s currently in the midst of truck madness, both you and Ben will be getting a bill from my shrink.

dude, after watching your lurpiv review, i was always been worried about the self-loosening bits of the trucks, but you know what worse had happened last weekend, i was having a sesh with the homies and suddenly my front lurpiv truck flew out of my board and at that time i thought like no, god, my truck is unscrewed itself, just like GF's in his preview video, unanticipatedly when i took a closer look of the kingpin , it was absolutely SNAPPED in HALF!!!! but i didnt worry much at that time cos i thought everyone saying that lurpiv got the best custom service, so i tried to email about the broken KingPin issue. i wrote a long paragraph abouut it., also mentioned i'm from China, when i first ordered the trucks it took like ab0ut 3 weeks to get shipped, intentionally i didnt even care if they gonna send me a new kingpin or not, cos i knew it was def not worthy shipping a non inverted kingpin to China by paying xx dollars. and then i got an mail replied saying: "Hello Touie, We will send new non-inverted kingpins by mail Lurpiv sales" it makes me feel like they didnt even read through my email that took me an hour to think and write, i dont want to post anything here to do anything bad about Oski's brand feature, cos i respect him so much and adore his skating, but i really felt offensed by such respond, totally not happy about it

We love the collaboration, keep them coming

My two favorite skate youtubers collaborate, amazing! I love the grind of tensors but they are light and take a lot of adjustment. I wish they made the mag light without hollow axels and kingpins. It would make them a touch heavier and stronger. They turn great in my opinion and one of the best for manuals. Plus I like being in the naughty category haha.

Mini Logo is a decent truck damnit! I need a nap after watching the video....

This was great. loved hearing you and Ben nitpick every truck. But I think this has only told us one thing, we need that Mini Logo truck review w/ guest zoom interviewee Andy Anderson. Keep it up Gifted Taters

when you edited the audio of Ben's cough. Subtle genius fucking gets me.

WE NEEDED THIS

This has to be the only skateboarding related video EVER to include the word 'porous'

Love the convo at the end, Ben has it dialed

Dude I was literally wondering where the thunder trucks where!!!lol!!! What a comeback for the Thunders!!!

I think it's worth mentioning that the GK distruptor kingpins snap in half. I had 2 pairs and 3 of my kingpins broke, it's apparently something that happens often enough that they offer to send replacement kingpins. After it sent me mid-bowl run I kinda replied with "Sorry I don't feel safe riding these"

Missed opportunity not discussing the Grind King Kreper truck. Truly the Frankenstein of the truck world.

Totally agree on the Krux talk. I used to ride them a lot and didn't realize how bad the turn was until I tried other trucks. The inverted kingpin ones were particularly bad. The kingpin would get loose and when you leaned to turn, the kingpin would lean the opposite way, changing the geometry in a way that made the turn even worse, really awful. My cruiser board always catches all the wack parts i've tried... Lithe board, non-abrasive grip, Avenue trucks. When should we schedule my injection? To be fair to the Avenues, they do smooth out riding on rough ground, but I wouldn't put them on a board I intend to do tricks on. OG aces are all I need.

I remember copping a pair of grind kings when I was a kid that held the nut in place so you only need a screw driver for the bolts. I loved those trucks 😂

So gassed that Ben degros gave tensors some props, the regular atgs are so nice to ride

When Ben speaks we listen

On titaniums…NHS is dope. I bought some DLK krux trucks and after a summer I had bent the axles. Emailed NHS with pictures and receipts. The dude (I think his name was Aaron) called me from cali! We talked for about half an hr lol. He asked me if I liked the krux and I said I didn’t so to replace them he offered me Indy titaniums. Those cost double what the krux did. Great experience as a customer lol. Love the Indy’s

I love Ben's encyclopedic knowledge of trucks

Might as well start a podcast ngl

Ayo Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro!

Thanks for coming through BEN

You were so excited to meet ben i loved it haha

Pulled a Mikey Taylor 😂 shout out Bennett for inspiring all these trucks! This was great.

Titanium will never work for grinding. In the knife industry with high end Titanium liner lock knives they always put a steel lockbar insert where the Titanium would meet the steel blade so it doesn't stick. Titanium is notoriously sticky against steel and there's no way around it. My ZT 0562ti full Titanium edition has the steel lockbar which makes it buttery smooth when unlocking. Titanium is even kinda sticky in the hand as well. So it's kinda surprising they made a full Titanium truck meant to grind against steel rails when it's widely known it sticks so badly against other metals. They're gonna have to put a layer of steel or something on top of the truck, or blended with the Titanium(though that's very expensive and difficult to do, ie Timascus) or it'll never work. It's probably just way to expensive and difficult to ever work in a truck.

I'll stick to my Indy Hollow Standards. I'm happy I don't have to skate anything else 😂. Great video guys.

Haha I'm so old I used to buy red doh-dohs for my Destructos. I kinda dug them for a while, they were pretty forgiving, with a slow turn initially, so you could rock them looser without getting swervy. I bought several pairs, otherwise I pretty much skate Indys. I had Orions in the 90s as well, they were dope, but I had friends whose Orions snapped.

I skated some Krux briefly in the early 2000's after getting them from a friend, after breaking my trucks. I remember being confused by how loose they were, but they didn't really turn much. Had to tick-tack like a MF with those. They were pretty tall too, but they could grind. Glad to hear nothing's changed, lol. That hole is so enticing, though.

The chemistry between these two🥰

I had a pair of Orions in the mid 90s. they were my favorite truck at the time. They didn't always have the same hanger. They were closer to the ACE look is now in the 90s

I was waiting on the thunder’s review…good that you didnt forget… min 52 Thanks for the review…now “i know” thats ok to just keep skating my current setup. Polar surf jr, thunder’s 149, and 56 bones wheels…(40 yr old skater here)

KRUX should be a tier lower than Lethal Injection imo

hiftedgater blessed us today

The fact that I’ve been looking at trucks all week so I can get new ones today 🤣 and then I see this video

I could listen to ben talk about skate equipment for hours lmao

Monster trucks, Titan Ti lights, destructos, Fury, Webbs

7:31 xDDDD, I'm European and that was funny as fuck. Well done Hater.

No phantom, monster, or silver?! 🤣 love these videos with Ben!

Super Fun video, Awesome video. Thank you !! 🙏🙏