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We need to reach out to James Cameron and make a full 4 hour cut of the movie

I LOVED Trudy and was genuinely devastated when she died. Such a great character and such a heroically tragic way to go.

Finally someone addressed this in a full video. They completely cut out Norm and Trudy's characters, and while I feel that it worked fine with Trudy since I'll be fully honest, the extra info really doesn't add much for the story itself, Norm's evisceration was a crime. The deleted scenes explain the choices he made, going from nerd to jealous of Jake to genuine, ride-or-die ally that simply can't be drawn from implication alone since even the implication was cut. Of course, I would have also much appreciated Trudy having an extended role beyond "Michelle Rodriguez is a pilot in this one." If someone, whether Cameron or anyone else, decides to release the *full* 4-hour-long cut of the movie, janky PS1 Na'vi animations included, I would still watch the hell out of it.

I didn't even know her last name was Chacon let alone all this other backstory. She was one of the most intriguing characters in the movie, even with so many scenes cut. Says a lot about Michelle Rodriguez as an actress.

Aw, man... Trudy was a fav character of mine, and it sucked so bad that they killed her off! That we didn't get to see the rest of the story, though... huge bummer!

I liked her, but there was so much about her that I didn't know. Thank you for this video. It's so sad that Trudy's not coming back. I really wanted to see her fly and kick some ass as an avatar.

That’s it. I want an extended cut released. If LOTR can have directors cuts that add hours onto each movie then Avatar can have that too!!

I think this would have definitely given some good character development to Norm and Trudy. It would have explained why she decided to switch sides and help Jake and his allies, and it would have also given more screentime to Norm. It would have been nice if Trudy survived the crash as well, as they could have gotten married, and their kids could make cameo appearances in Way of the Water. Perhaps Trudy and Norm would become the new administrators of the RDA base on Pandora after the humans were kicked out. It would have only required under 5 minutes of additional screentime, and by shortening some of the exposition scenes at the beginning, it wouldn't have even required the runtime to be longer.

I need one thing in my life. A complete 4 hour Avatar edition of this.

Norm's avatar didn't die, he's seen using his avatar at the end standing over the humans being forced to leave pandora...the only reason that he abandoned his avatar during the final fight, is that when his avatar was wounded..norm felt that pain and it caused him to lose his mental concentration and it disrupted his bond with his avatar...but the avatar was only wounded, not dead.....UNLESS, They just screwed up during the editing or post production.

She was one of my favorite characters before I ever knew about the deleted scenes, and I agree her character arc did not receive justice. I am a sucker for the tragic hero story, and she embodied it more than almost anyone else in the movie--she knew their odds of success were extremely low, while the odds of dying extremely high, but she did it anyway and proved even in her defeat that she was far superior to those who defeated her. These deleted scenes add so much to her story!

Trudy's character was literally the best side character. Would have loved to see more

I am so glad you made this video. I’ve never seen the deleted scenes. But even with her limited screen time and arc in the final cut she has always been my favorite character. I’m glad you also see how underrated she is and that she is getting much deserved attention in this analysis!!!

Trudy has and will still always be my favorite character

Excellent video. Trudy's and Norm's backstory/love interest were cut from the final version of the film for pacing reasons, but add so much to the overall story. With all the deleted scenes (some of which really didn't add anything and should have been cut in any case) they could have easily had a movie over four hours long. What they should have done is cut the thing in half and released the first part as Avatar and the second part as the sequel, released a year or so after the first part. However, that might not have worked out as good as what they eventually released as the first movie. I think the Collector's Edition Extended Cut is the definitive version of the film. It has the Earth opening, explains more about the school and what happened there, gives more context to the Jake and Neytiri romance, and shows us more of Pandora and the Na'vi. Those 16 minutes of restored scenes add much more depth to the story. I remember reading more than a few fanfics on Fanfiction.net back in 2010 about Trudy and Norm's relationship and her backstory. I ended up writing a novel-length fanfic in 2010 (started in February of that year and finished in November) that explored the film's backstory and was my take on the direction I thought the story could take. It also added some dimension to Trudy's backstory and sheds some light on the decisions and actions she makes in the film, specifically the escape sequence. It will be interesting to see the sequel in a couple weeks. Anyway, good video.

As the biggest Michelle Rodriguez fan ever, it's awesome to see her character in my favorite movie ever made my day!! 💜✌️🤓

I agree, besides Neytiri, I find Trudy as one of the most interesting characters in Avatar. I've always felt the character was in spirit a nod to Vasques from Cameron's Aliens. James has a thing for badass chicks 😉

Trudy deserves to come back in a hallelujah moment in an Na’vi body, Eywa showing her thanks by taking that human woman who died saving her people and giving her a second chance. Well now I’m off to see if there is fanfic about that.

4:15 the way he mentions this and just keeps on talking about aircrafts- idk why its so funny to me LMAOOO CRYING RN

1:40 I consider myself a superfan and I had zero clue about the tiger/dragon dichotomy. Great video!

This explains a lot to me. The cuts made to the film and Trudy’s character arc hurt the story. It has always seemed to me that when a script is written and filmed and then cuts are made, it leaves threads that don’t make sense. The director minimizes the damage of these threads, but depending on the film, the damage is lesser or greater. This video explains a lot

The mother joke was perfect 🤣 😂

That honestly adds so much to the movie, seeing this after just recently rewatching the original almost brings a tear to my eye.

I just wished that since they had the tech to take the memories of the people which was shown in Avatar 2, that they should have taken the memories of trudy before the final battle, so that they can build her an avatar body.

I loved Trudy. I want the director’s cut.

Trudy was the real hero of Avatar! It was so sad seeing her die during the final battle, actually wanted her to make it

Lyle is the best second main villian of avatar seeing what he done,and him and Quaritch returning in part 2 makes it more menacing

the amount of deleted scenes you show in your video's is so much more then i thought there were and for most of them i don't really understand why they were cut. I hope eventually someone will release a full version.

It’s crazy how informative these videos are

Great video man, loved every bit of it. Very interesting stuff to understand what was cut from the movie.

Great video Bryce! I liked the variety of facts and how you tied them all to Trudy-focused yet varied, very engaging. I just watched the theatrical release and thought that some characters changed sides without much warning, I would love to see a full 4 hour cut.

awesome content we missed out on the cutting table ,thank you for putting it out u earned my subscription

Omg I'm not alone! I freaking adore this movie. Hardly anyone I know feels the same way. Nice to know that there are others who think this movie and its universe are extraordinary. 😊💙💙💙

Wow that adds so much more depth to the movie I never knew. Thanks!

One of the best videos I've seen on Avatar, amazing work!

What a great video!!! Very well edited. Thank you!

Omg finally i see someone appreciating Trudy, i love her so much 🥹

Wow.... thank you for bringing this up. That makes an already incredible film a better story. Love it.

Found a gold mine of channel here! Well done!

Trudy has always been one of my favourite characters, tho I've always missed some depth and backstory. Now I wish they'd added this storyline and just made the movie a bit longer 'cause this is exactly the depth I was looking for. It would add so much dimension to multiple characters ánd the storyline, making the "heroes vs villains" more nuanced and human. These deleted scenes make me appreciate her even more, such a shame she didn't make it past the first movie

I love how this video feels like my thought process, 13 years and I never knew of this two, tbh I would watch that "Cameron's Cut" just for trudy and norm

Even before I knew about these deleted scenes, I thought that I wanted to see more of this character while watching this movie a thousand times. Major LOL! This actress is extremely underrated. She always gets these, I'm dying early in this movie roles. She was rarely seen, but when she was seen, I was on the edge of my seat. When her character died, I cried. She does such a great job in every role she gets. Maybe she has a family and wants to do a great job and get home to them? Or maybe the casting crew are blind? Major LOL!

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THEM honestly I'm just glad I'm,not crazy 😂

This is such a great video! I love Trudy & totally agree she is underrated!!! This helped piece so much of her story together!!

Love your videos so much Bryce! Avatar holds a special place in my heart, I love the lore and information that it holds! I am seeing avatar TWOW this weekend and I’m so excited

Thank you for sharing the insight of Trudy character. She was a well loved character in the movie. Her death scene brought tears and sadness to many. Wish she had survive and return in the second Avatar movie.

Trudy is one of my favorite characters from the first one. Her transformation into Na'vi ally was obvious, but super subtle. I just commented this same thing on another video of yours a minute ago, but Cameron really knows how to pick his actors. Even though this romance and Trudy's change of heart were cut, you can tell she went through a character evolution.

I didn't know about all these deleted scenes. I thought I saw them all but any way to see more Michelle Rodriguz is a plus in my book.

An interesting note about the sampson, it was made by Aerospatiale, but in 2000 they went defunct and ceased manufacturing and they were then successed by Airbus. But in the Avatar timeline, they didn't go defunct and ended up making the aircraft that the RDA use. Cool little note to anyone who's into aviation

I understand trimming it down to the already lengthy three hours, but, given all this information on top of my own experience watching the movie, I think it would be worth it to have a four hour cut. Theater goers in 2009 probably would have been pretty reluctant to sit in the theater for that long though.

Im on an Avatar kick as a native American looking for writing inspo. Just found your channel and absolutely love your humor and how you edit. Keep it up!!❤😂

Makes a lot more sense why in the final cut, the next time you see Norm after the clip of him coming out of the Avatar link after being shot, he is seemingly about to go on an absolute rampage! I always thought it seemed a bit odd. Like, yeah he could be eager to get back in the fight. But from looking terrified and in pure hysterical shock, to looking like he's out for blood, it didn't really fit his character from what we were shown of him in the film's final cut. Makes a lot more sense now with the cut love story between him and Trudy that he would react in that way

Small contribution to this truly much needed addition of yours to the Avatariverse: The Mil-24 Hind you depict in your video taken from the Rambo movies (appears in R2 & R3) is actually a Aérospatiale Puma propped up to look like a Mil-24. Although there are a few versions of the Hind that had the 2 pilots side-by-side config, the Hind is usually quite iconcally recognizable by its realively slender and long airframe and mostly by its tandem bubble-canopy pilot/gunner setup. Sorry for that planespotter nerd-vomit, but at 5 in the morning, my OCD inhibitions are not reved up enough yet 😉 I agree with other commenters on doing the cameron cut of Avatar 1 especially with A2 being played now & A3 in sight. I think an audience today will accept 2-3h movies more readilly if it sees the benefit of the runtime being the product of richness of story or having a slow pace in a flick that truly generated a profound immersion instead of just being plain boring or dragging. Now that I know of this more evolved love story (and I quite liked these 2 characters in A1 to begin with anyway) I really have a feel of loss, never to have heard more of them together. Thanks and stay safe!

Yep, I remember one specific cut of the film that had it. I don't remember if it was the first theatrical extension or one of the several alternate versions on the dvd box set, but it is NOT in the "full extended edition". None of the versions kept the full story, but they did have a different training montage sequence. In one or two of them "Norm's attitude has improved" is voiced over him and Trudy peeking out of bed instead of Norm teaching Jake the language.

I always liked her, I wish we would have seen her character development

I agree. This character is so underrated in this movie. I love her guts so much.

I think the movie just focused on the plots more than the side stories so they cut them off, but it would've given the movie more depth from everyone's perspective on what's happening around them and giving the audience clarity on the characters attitude in the movie

wouuuuuuu some many years ... I was not aware of those delete scenes ... Gracias Bryce!!

I’m so happy the avatar is getting popular again because of the long waiting sequel coming out. I love Trudy and really interested of the futuristic vehicles of the RDA and hopefully we get to see earth 🌍 in the sequels with futuristic setting and what’s left of the nature. ❤

This hardly scratches the surface of everything that was cut from that movie.

Please release the extended version of avatar💓💓💓

Yes I would definitely buy a directors cut.

I’m with you. Avatar is one of the greatest movies ever made. I was in my early 20s when this hit theaters and I’ve waited 11 long years for the sequel. I’m still not sure how I feel about that one. It was a great movie and I can’t wait for the rest but I wasn’t prepared for the waterworks. But I digress-I’m glad I found your channel and can learn so many new things about the story! 💙

I remember watching the deleted scenes when the movie first came out an along the years I kept asking my self “but like what happened to dat one scene but now knowing they deleted the scenes makes sense

If they kept that particular scene of trudy and the navi in the final battle would have made a lot more sense

Love the video and the jokes in between!!

I had to laugh so hard at some points, I love your humor

I really wish Trudy had survived. I missed her in The Way of Water! 💧💧💧

I f*cking need an extended cut of this film even if it is 6 hours long, that's even better!

Nice video man

Same tiger can be spot on the jacket that Murdock is wearing and like Trudy he was a pilot!

LMAO, THAT SCREAM WHEN NORM FELL

Bryce, great work^^ I could listen to you rattle off all this technical military language all day, lol.

Cameron said after the release of Avatar 2 that there’s enough footage and story to make a 6 part series of each movie (like Snyder made a 4pt series of Justice League) so that a fuller more comprehensive story could be told. After watching this video, I am 100% behind that idea

Explanation of the romance actually starts at 11:00

I was really sad when I didn't see Trudy in the second movie we love you queen 💗

Awe dang! I didn't know this either! It's certainly tragic, but I would have loved to see their relationship in the movie.

Haven’t finished watching the vid yet but I remember watching it in theaters. Gotta say, I prefer the final cut, in favor of a few more Jake and Neytiri scenes. If it came to it and I could just have ALL of it, well! I’d prefer that more

I really want to see a full cut of avatar

11:07 gets me every time

Great Video!

I've always felt that Avatar was kind of overrated. However, I think if we got an extended edition that included scenes and details like Trudy and Norm's hidden love story, I think I'd enjoy it a lot more, I always kind of felt like her character was under used at times, like when she died I was like "Oh No..... anyway." But if we had these little scenes, I'd have cared more. Plus, I also like it that the humans actually would have had a motive rather than just being evil. Of course, they still were, but there would be a reason behind it.

can you make a video about all the deleted scenes

Was NOT prepared for the Your Mom joke XD

Wow...the cut scenes are a story changer.

Michelle Rodriguez does Trudy such insane justice! Thanks for giving her character some love!

Bro I loved Trudy, she was BRUTAL and amazing

The deleted scenes of Avatar (where she has more scenes), turns her role into a Letty-liked one. (played by the same actor but only in a different film)

Great review

Love the interesting details

Hes also crying, he heard her die… ughhh it brewks my heart

Are we just gonna let him get away with say "but I digest"?

This slick made me upset cause I wanted more of trudy when I first saw her 😩 and to know all of this was cut out....😭

I wish James Cameron will recast Michelle Rodriguez in the upcoming Avatar sequels. She's awesome and really wanted to work with Cameron.

It was after seeing Violent Night that made me realize that Trudy is actually short for Gertrude.

The minute you said “you know what fuck it we are gonna talk about that tiger right now” i instantly subscribed. Cant sleep on someone that real 😂💯

Knowing that this much stuff was cut out even from the extended version, I wonder how much stuff was cut out from the sequel, which ended up being almost an hour longer...

12:58 should've kept that "Interspecies Booty call" line lol

I know now that it isn't impossible that she could return! I really hope so!