True Temperament Frets Explained By A Music Doctor

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Andre Fludd

Andre Fludd

Күн бұрын

The Strandberg Experiment Episode 4, I explain true temperament frets and discuss whether or not they are worth purchasing. I'm testing them on my Strandberg Nx 7 string true temperament.
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0:00 Intro
0:44 Temperaments explained
3:25 Summary for non musicians
4:18 True Temperament Explained
5:40 Test 1
6:33 Test 2
8:23 Test 3
9:44 Test 4
11:33 my Thoughts
15:40 Worth The Price?
17:43 more Sustain?
18:52 Polishing frets
19:31 True tempered in all keys?
20:28 Bends and vibrato
20:58 Special Tuning process
21:33 Do things sound weird?
22:05 Two Guitars Together
23:14 Only 1 tuning
23:43 Bonus Metal
24:55 Tapping
25:28 More tests

Пікірлер: 833
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Checkout My best-selling teach-yourself course: www.andrefludd.com/one-course-to-make-you-intermediate Disclaimer! This is not academic or peer-reviewed research! I've cut many details and simplified certain parts to keep the format fun and a "reasonable" length. Also, if for some ungodly reason, you make it to around the 27:40 mark, there is an error with the last 2 test examples.
@metalosaur
@metalosaur Жыл бұрын
A440 has nothing to do with equal temperament or temperament at all - it is a pitch. From A440 you can tune into whatever temperament you want. The only purpose of A440 standard is to make sure that instruments in a band/orchestra are not out of tune relatively to each other disregards of the temperament they use.
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 Жыл бұрын
@@metalosaur the frequency of a also changed throughout history. it was as low as 416 and went above 440. conductors still choose different a's for their orchestras.
@bullheadshitface2023
@bullheadshitface2023 Жыл бұрын
To be entirely honest, I kinda like the slightly out of tune dissonance/beading that comes from the "non-true temperment," it feels like part of the character. Your true temperment chord, and other instances of true temperment that I have heard almost sound too good to be true, and maybe a bit uncanny. Like hearing overproduced deathcore/deathmetal, where it sounds like the aggression in the playing of instrument kinda disappears Maybe it comes from listening to ALOT of extreme music and becoming accustomed to dissonance as a tool to amplify a heavy riff or passage in the song. After so long of that, I started to find a strong beauty in the dissonance, which started my love for some jazz, and other music. Then again, it might just be another stage of understanding/enjoying music. ETA: this video was pretty awesome! Thank you for uploading this! Will also add, true temperment for ambient absolutely makes sense
@mouthfulacoque3580
@mouthfulacoque3580 Жыл бұрын
bro. math does not need a peer review. Set your pickup and action height to the same specifications as is humanly possible and you have a solid reference. Use an oscilloscope and you've done your due diligence. I respect and admire what you're doing.
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
@@metalosaur Yeah except if C remains the appointed frequency it is all out of tune in any instrument. 440 as A does not result in all frequencies being whole number. 441 hz does not necessarily as 'A' . Everyone wants to know what throws everything off, it is this = A as 440 when C is a fixed frequency that doesn't move with what A should be. for example if 'A' were 432 hz, then C in SOME places would be 252 hz, and the places it is not, are not meant to be 252 hz, they are meant to be other frequency, because for all pitches the locked physical ratios of frets placed by the 12th square root of 2 is precisely the frequency required to be used together with all of the other precisely fretted ratios, they are correct! Try your ears, all the notes are heard without cancelling, all the overtones, all the harmonics atomizing in your ears. Its beautifuL. Try it. the mistake is to keep C as a certain frequency whilst changing A as a frequency, their distance must be the exact place it needs to be to match 20 EDO, then the 12 notes come alive. i spent years and years everyday with scrolls of math by hand 20 feet in length and all frequency mapped out on the floor with frequency players and measuring software and gigging musical hardware alike to figure all this out and understand why colleges and the world at large has such a problem understanding or finding it. The distance of A and C are based on even intervals numbering higher than twelve notes based on the distances between all notes. 12th square of 2 is 12 notes of 20 edo. and have all keys of all edos contained within them, that is why the frequencies swap out for better sounding frequencies but they swip swap and exchange in all the correct places all whole number frequencies and NOt any wolf tones. all harmonics and overtones jumping out perfectly, with clarity, loudness, and fullness of tone and brightness. i am a guitar luthier and guitar designer. You shall not ever have a problem chording in any key after finding it. And it is not sellable because i am own it. i am that i am and i am dictate all things. i am and where i am is the kingdom also.
@Mojojojoe
@Mojojojoe Жыл бұрын
It's funny, I recognised TT in most of the samples but I've been conditioned enough on normal frets that they sound more natural and better to me. This might have ended my GAS for a TT fretted guitar. Very informative video!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 Жыл бұрын
I’m the end if we were all rolling in unlimited money nothing could actually over power gas. Lol
@Mojojojoe
@Mojojojoe Жыл бұрын
@@MisterRorschach90 very true!
@michaelkramer9014
@michaelkramer9014 Жыл бұрын
I got 4 out of 5 but they were all the non TT instrument, to me the TT instrument sounded incorrect I definitely would say that's because of 30 years of playing guitar and having a re-enforced sound in my head of what the note intervals sound like together even if they are further away from true temperament
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkramer9014 I see. Thanks for sharing!
@davidcookemusic2968
@davidcookemusic2968 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing guitar for over 40 years and I found a simple solution to the tonal variations of standard frets and tuning. If you make enough mistakes, the rest of the notes sound pretty good by comparison. Then if you sing like a donkey sitting on a hornets nest nobody can hear your mistakes, or poor tone. Epic win! Flawless victory! Of course my channel view count might be a clue that this is generally not a strategy other people want to hear. Luddites.
@hk-4738
@hk-4738 9 ай бұрын
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of music?
@E_-_-
@E_-_- 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I almost bought a true tempered guitar, but this comment convinced me to try a different, more tried and true approach
@IgneelS11
@IgneelS11 5 ай бұрын
thats basically black metal.
@gustavomazonave8536
@gustavomazonave8536 Жыл бұрын
Your dedication to these analysis is crazy! Very underated channel.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jaimehernandez5883
@jaimehernandez5883 Жыл бұрын
This video is exactly what I needed. Great channel, love the guitar-hero looking guitar in all your backgrounds.
@enterprisesoftwarearchitect
@enterprisesoftwarearchitect Жыл бұрын
Subscribed!!!!!
@deadrituals
@deadrituals Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that you talk about your solution of using a vibrato to mask pitch inconsistencies - In studio work we often double track guitars or use subtle modulation like chorus, partly to make up for the guitar’s natural pitch inconsistencies, kind of in the same fashion!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Exactly the same idea!
@Barbro247
@Barbro247 Жыл бұрын
You should never try to take away from the inconsistencies aka dynamics. Modern rock and metal sucks largely due to the studious having absolutely zero clue on what a great sound is.
@mongarcia9151
@mongarcia9151 Жыл бұрын
We do this in classical guitar. On higher frets sometimes the notes sound a bit off so it is recommended to use vibrato on such notes.
@PhaythGaming
@PhaythGaming Жыл бұрын
@@Barbro247I mean but modern metal is sick though so idk what you’re on.
@chrisw5742
@chrisw5742 Жыл бұрын
@@PhaythGaming modern thrash is killing it.
@lucasalessi6271
@lucasalessi6271 Жыл бұрын
The quality of your content is simply astounding and as a 20 year old musician from argentina you inspire me to chase my musical education simply by making these awesome videos . Keep at it man
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :). It takes a lot of time. I'm glad you notice.
@idiotburns
@idiotburns Жыл бұрын
I am so excited I found your channel after 25 years of guitar research online, your channel is a gem
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joeydego2
@joeydego2 Жыл бұрын
What an absolute pleasure stumbling on a channel that is produced but not overly produced from an author who is clearly not an idiot. Subscribed and will definitely follow more content.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@joshuagavaghan224
@joshuagavaghan224 Жыл бұрын
"You'd have to buy a guitar for each key, which prolly wouldn't bother most guitarists anyway since we love buying lots of gear" Best point here
@MrMjp58
@MrMjp58 2 ай бұрын
The most groundbreaking development in guitar construction I’ve ever come across.
@costinnovac6092
@costinnovac6092 Жыл бұрын
An A+ from me for this explanatory video. Finally someone that touch this topic. Excellent that you don't put a ton of EQs and compression for audio examples and let it as raw as possible.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@thomlind1428
@thomlind1428 Жыл бұрын
Easy to spot in all examples. I have 3 TT neck guitars and can never go back. The only problem is when getting used to it, at my ears gotten so sensitive that I have to keep it in perfect tuning and even adjust how hard to press each string in different chords.
@Guitar-U
@Guitar-U Жыл бұрын
Your narration is so concise. I love this topic as well. This is the most in depth examination anyone has posted on TT. Thank you!
@algorithm007ify
@algorithm007ify 9 ай бұрын
Having the strings as low as possible without buzz and the neck as straight as possible (only minimal relief) helps with intonation...
@mempo77
@mempo77 Жыл бұрын
Possibly your best so far to my ears. I really enjoyed this, both content and format - highly appreciate the effort and dedication, thank you!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@johndwilliford
@johndwilliford 8 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you for such an in-depth and thorough explanation.
@jeffhampton6972
@jeffhampton6972 Жыл бұрын
This is so informative to watch! Thank you so much for putting the time into this, it answered questions I didn't even think of, and I really appreciate it. :D
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ericmork630
@ericmork630 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found this channel. I discovered it when I came across the video about you giving up analog. I discovered it a bit too late to save me from these clunky tube amps that I can't bring myself to get rid of. But I found it just in time to watch this video and prevent me from investing in one of these instruments. The way you presented it definitely kept me from making yet another costly purchase that wouldn't really benefit me much.
@rmperine
@rmperine Жыл бұрын
Andre, well constructed video with excellent content and academic polish.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@willhunt7355
@willhunt7355 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed Andre's presentation and playing immensely..! Subscribed!
@kyle_wagner_music
@kyle_wagner_music Жыл бұрын
Love the deep dive into this topic. I've always wondered about how those squiggly frets would affect sound and playing. Thanks for this thoughtful (and thought-provoking) explanation and comparison of the TT vs standard necks!
@PlaneTShakeRo
@PlaneTShakeRo Жыл бұрын
What I find fascinating is that in test 3, the true temperament guitar seemed to me to break up the amp more because the frequencies were aligned better and thus they amplify each other. Thank you for this material. I was looking into TT for some time now. I laughed at the TT Freebird.
@ZL1LoVeR
@ZL1LoVeR Жыл бұрын
This is so well explained I learned so much! Thank you for this 🙏🏽
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@peaceofvideo
@peaceofvideo Жыл бұрын
I have had these burning questions for years. Thank you SO MUCH for not only giving extremely detailed information but for being so clear with how you explain! Earned yourself a subscriber 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@chrisrussoroos6091
@chrisrussoroos6091 Жыл бұрын
Thank you- so well taught and enjoyable. Needed to hear it well condensed like u presented. 👍🎸
@anthonyglennmollicasr.425
@anthonyglennmollicasr.425 Жыл бұрын
Great video Andre! Nicely done, taught me a lot :)
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@justutlilizelevers
@justutlilizelevers Жыл бұрын
The tapping was magnificent ! Wow 🔥!
@serazac25
@serazac25 Жыл бұрын
Good to know that KDH is following you. Both great guitar channels.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Love his channel. So honest!
@naturaljoe759
@naturaljoe759 Жыл бұрын
Used to watch KDH but he does nothing but complain.
@Brocolissimo
@Brocolissimo Жыл бұрын
The ability to adjust intonation on the fly is one of my favorite things about playing fretless bass. It’s very satisfying to find the perfect place to “sit” in a chord with other players.
@e.strukov
@e.strukov 9 ай бұрын
There's something in that gentleman's voice that makes me wanna watch the whole video and I feel relaxed and comfortable at the time. Weird to say that
@Xirrious
@Xirrious Жыл бұрын
Hey Andre, great content. Your channel is gonna blow up, you make unique stuff and you're knowledgeable. I'm gonna sub.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@AlphaCuck
@AlphaCuck 10 ай бұрын
You are seriously the best, most professional, and meticulous guitar KZfaqr there is! Thank you for all your excellently and thoughtfully made videos!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd 10 ай бұрын
That's very high praise. Thank you so much!
@gleb_guitarist
@gleb_guitarist Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a detailed analysis. Very interesting
@EdBender
@EdBender 4 ай бұрын
Your channel is pure gold.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dj_tmc
@dj_tmc Жыл бұрын
Great test and all my questions answered!
@lunamatic9775
@lunamatic9775 Жыл бұрын
This was incredible and stuff I've never gotten into before. Completely fascinating. The tests at the end were great, but as pleasing as the TT version sounded in almost every case, I couldn't help but think the other version sounded more typically guitar-like to me--slightly off and a bit more like how it would sound live in my mind. I don't think I'd ever be able to tell if TT is used or not if it's mixed in with a band. As always, your hard work shows through in each video.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support :)
@berndkiltz
@berndkiltz Жыл бұрын
Best Video on the subject by far!
@brandonshortt1770
@brandonshortt1770 Жыл бұрын
Jesus dude this video slaps, great breakdown on what you're talking about, great vocabulary, stupidly well researched, easy sub
@SunePors1
@SunePors1 Жыл бұрын
Great work. As someone who has also been frustrated with the intonation of the guitar for years, this was very helpful and informative. Basically, the examples sounded like 2 different flavors of out-of-tune to my ears. In the beginning of the video, I got every example wrong, but as I figured out the difference, by the end I got every example right. But then again, perfectly tuned pianos and keyboards also sound out of tune to me, so the problem is more the compromises inherent in equal temperament, than the inconsistencies of the guitar. I never dared to try a TT guitar, since I was afraid that regular guitars would sound worse to me forever, I see now that I probably won't even need one. However, one major issue that I can imagine TT fretboards would solve, is being in tune when playing with keyboard players.
@timlist1178
@timlist1178 Жыл бұрын
Good content. Presented very clearly. Keep it up, your channel will pop
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mitchellrogers5130
@mitchellrogers5130 Жыл бұрын
Watched your videos before but this one made me subscribe, nice to hear someone talk about this somewhat in depth
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for supporting :)
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic Жыл бұрын
This was so good. Great work Andre
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Rex-golf_player810
@Rex-golf_player810 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good video to explain these frets and also to disambiguate between true temperament and just intonation
@guyeckelberger932
@guyeckelberger932 Жыл бұрын
Spot on man. I notice that if I look at the fret mods on a true temperament it compensates what I do with my hands or slight tuning variation depending the guitar.
@RobertJones-rd5wl
@RobertJones-rd5wl Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, thank you!
@carterpochynok4874
@carterpochynok4874 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I didn't expect the "Devine Prank" problem that was the bane of Renaissance and Baroque music theorists' existence to show up, but you did a great job of explaining it! Fux would be proud!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@JuanDhas
@JuanDhas Жыл бұрын
Great video, man! Had always been curious about the True Temperament frets. Hope you're well!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Juan! Gotta get you on the podcast soon.
@JuanDhas
@JuanDhas Жыл бұрын
@@andrefludd Would be happy to!
@cafesociety8525
@cafesociety8525 Жыл бұрын
I had a film on in the background and when you asked "is the true temperament system worth the expense?" Bill Murray replied "hell no!" 😅
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
He might be right hahaha
@insidious34
@insidious34 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal explanation with great analogies!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mysteryloaf
@mysteryloaf Жыл бұрын
REALLY appreciate th e first 6 minutes of this video. You really nailed the explanation of temperament as relevant to modern guitar playing, the analogies of Just James and Equal Emily were helpful, and I REALLY appreciate the explanation of the goal of the true temperament system. And I ABSOLUTELY hear the gently improved intonation in your first set of A/B samples, especially since I use a compressor for my youtube audio, and any "beating" or "warbling" or "pulsing" of slightly out-of-tune intervals becomes really really apparent. Also I'm surprised how similar the Fishman and Suhr pickups sound to each other with the settings/hand techniques you use. Lastly, I REALLY appreciate your comments about "audience/musician perception" and point out how important the emotional component of performance really can be. Extremely well-constructed video!!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I pretty much sound exactly the same no matter the guitar or rig lol I think I subconsciously play slightly differently to sound like me after a couple seconds of hearing a new guitar.
@mysteryloaf
@mysteryloaf Жыл бұрын
@@andrefludd That makes a lot of sense for a musicain who spends a lot of time with the instrument. Then the tone comes from your body, not the guitar. Brief tangent: reminds me of my drum teacher when we approached swing drumming. Ideally, "swing" comes from your body, not the sticks or the cymbal. If you want the gig, you want to be able to swing with fork on a napkin at a diner table. 🤣I tried to take that to heart.
@randmockguitars4079
@randmockguitars4079 Жыл бұрын
You make exceptional content, subbed. I've been thinking of doing TT when I start adding acoustic builds.. since I am focused on fingerstyle and solo players. This review has pushed me closer to doing so. thank you for this. Great channel and great playing
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@randmockguitars4079
@randmockguitars4079 Жыл бұрын
@@andrefludd Thank you, as someone new to YT creation this year, the work it takes to create this quality is impressive. Truly appreciate the effort and the inspiration. Binging your other vids lol. The Beato review is super informative from a players perspective
@captaingrub2228
@captaingrub2228 Жыл бұрын
Superb analysis and breakdown.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JesterMasque
@JesterMasque Жыл бұрын
I have a Fender Highway One Telecaster (USA) and it is the MOST used guitar in the entire studio. Being a traditional bridge, intonation was already an issue, but compensated saddles did a TON of work for that. True Temperament makes a Telecaster direct replacement, and it's been on my list for a couple years. I'm really impressed with the results you displayed here. Thanks for the video!
@vukjovanovicofficial
@vukjovanovicofficial Жыл бұрын
Okay, you sir fried my brain, I thought I knew things about music but damn, I am pretty clueless. Awesome video and an awesome channel! Really underrated but will explode I'm sure of it. Cheers Andre!
@suomi35
@suomi35 7 ай бұрын
This is a great video!
@stratisclouds
@stratisclouds Жыл бұрын
I subscribed off the first video. Extremely concise lesson.
@esposoman
@esposoman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the explanations. Good job. Greetings from Spain.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@viy4616
@viy4616 Жыл бұрын
What you mentioned in the "my thoughts" section is perfectly illustrated by non-fretted performances. When i did cello recitals there were many cases when even people who play a lot better than i ever did were clearly "off". We're talking un-intended "eastern music, 1/4 tone at the very least" off. But because the piece itself was very melodic and our brains can anticipate the direction of the melody & harmony it was absolutely fine. No one in the audience even noticed. Moreover, the TT guitar sounds very... un-natural to me. There is something jarring about the improved intonation, as paradoxical as it may sound. I could hear the TT easily in all your tests, but I can't say i particularly liked it. Especially not when other instruments (backing tracks) were involved. Thanks for the video, it was super interesting to watch!
@stevenponce4893
@stevenponce4893 Жыл бұрын
I´m just about to make a purchase of a Strandberg with his system, you helped me a lot sir! Amazing videos as usual. Personally I found your tech tech talks top notch, I said it in the past and let me repeat it again: thank you!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I could help!
@TomTrones
@TomTrones 9 ай бұрын
Great video!
@miketayse
@miketayse 11 ай бұрын
This was great! Very intelligent rundown. I was doing the intonation on a guitar recently and looked up some stuff on you tube to see if anyone had any new suggestion and I still get suggestions dealing with intonation. I'm always retuning when changing key. It would drive me nuts to play in D and then not retune if I had to play in E. I've always wanted to try one of the guitars with the corrected frets. Nice explanation thanks for posting!
@ajnazatahm
@ajnazatahm Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that within four seconds of clicking on your video, I could tell you’re a quality channel, and subscribed. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow 😊
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@FringeSpectre
@FringeSpectre Жыл бұрын
Yo this is some good shit. I was sold on you when you brought up how our brains interpret and correct variations in the notes we hear.
@matt6288joyce
@matt6288joyce Жыл бұрын
I can’t hear anything at all but I admire your commitment to clarity of analysis!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@codhcod4949
@codhcod4949 Жыл бұрын
great production, love the TT neck
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@micemr76
@micemr76 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video. All in all great video. Lil hard to follow your test tracks, but the differences are obvious to my ear. Now I gotta just figure out if those differences are a benefit to me or not. Very good video, very informative, definitely upping your video content! $1200 for these frets seems crazy.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@antonjohnsson679
@antonjohnsson679 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Andre! My own experience is much like yours. The big game changer for me was actually the sustain of some chords. That surprised me the most when i first got a TT neck. Funnily enough I usually prefer the sound of a "normal" guitar. I guess the ear is more used to it. Same goes for example with a SM57. Not the best sounding mic isolated, but I love it in a mix. The majority of music I've consumed in my life was recorded with that mic so my ear tends to favor it. Keep the videos coming!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@theaimuse
@theaimuse 5 ай бұрын
Hi Andre, Just stumbled on your channel today. Quality stuff. Thanks! Regarding the test: To be honest, I could tell on every single one of your tests, including the ones with backing. To me it sounds clearly cleaner/more in tune. Perhaps is it because I come from a place of playing classical piano and keys since childhood - This has always bothered me slightly every since I picked up a guitar at age 14. That being said, I am not sure I am a fan of the guitar itself and I have heard quite a bit on build quality at that price point.
@andrewkrodel7976
@andrewkrodel7976 Жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos. I would be interested in hearing the two guitars plus the “perfect” synthesized sound. I’m addition, with the 3 examples, listening to some of the common chord transitions played in songs.
@str11pes
@str11pes Жыл бұрын
Subd. This is so great and professional. I hope you get many more subscribers.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@alexwood8555
@alexwood8555 Жыл бұрын
Ayyy even KDH got a comment in, good stuff. Glad I’m a subscriber to your channel.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
He’s the man
@ChristopherStandardTime
@ChristopherStandardTime Жыл бұрын
amazing vid, as always. the quality of your content is always great, Andre, i learn so much.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :). I appreciate that!
@ArchieOnEarth
@ArchieOnEarth Жыл бұрын
My Tom Anderson Baritom has the Buzz Feiten system. I like to double rhythm guitar parts in the studio, often with different guitars. There's always some weirdness doubling the Baritom with a non-tempered guitar, but it’s a weirdness that I like. A subtle lushness that weaves in and out, without being in-your-face like a chorus effect.
@TheYakove
@TheYakove Жыл бұрын
Really cool, I especially like how you carefully hedged the big-brain theory with the notions of subjectivity and the human factor - whether intended or not, that alone just sort of allowed the valuable information to bypass the filter of my ego! I kinda wish the soundbites of chords in the tests were slightly longer, though Keep it up, doc!
@jibicusmaximus4827
@jibicusmaximus4827 Жыл бұрын
i learnt all this a while back, wish i had come here first, this is the clearest explanation i have heard.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@StirfriedGerman
@StirfriedGerman Жыл бұрын
Awesome video ! In every comparison I prefer standard frets 100% of the time, maybe that's what my brain is used to.
@gitarmats
@gitarmats Жыл бұрын
I did a lot of fake pedal steel guitar stuff on country gigs, and that thing of holding on to the whammy bar is a life saver in those situations.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@gabemaymi
@gabemaymi Жыл бұрын
What an entertaining analysis! I had no idea these sound so different. Didn't really enjoy the TT frets, even out of comparison. I'm probably so used to the regular frets that they sound more 3D in contrast.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Yea I get that
@martyshwaartz971
@martyshwaartz971 Жыл бұрын
Great video! If you’re interested in using the vibrato system with true temperament, they do sell Stratocaster replacement necks with them (very high price and very long wait time though). Keep up the good content!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that!
@mijo3642
@mijo3642 6 ай бұрын
I did Alan Limbricks Guitar Institute Degree with people like Shaun Baxter in London and have been playing both professionally and otherwise for 40+ years before my current profession. I stopped playing for a while as I am very sensitive to tuning and while the intonation is good as it gets with my 2002 Tom Anderson Hollow T classic, and baby Martin but it is not perfect and some days annoys me 🙄. I put the Martin into the shop and had a staggered bridge fitted which was a massive improvement. Then, I played a Strandberg true temperament 6! it was like a revolution in my head. Suddenly, I wanted to play again so, I am looking around for one that catches my eye and not sure which pick-up model to get as I play mostly melodic Jazz / Country / mild Rock / Blues. yeah, you talk too much BUT good and thorough review, thank you.
@stevenm78
@stevenm78 Жыл бұрын
New sub here. I love the content that was just presented. Bravo. You are very intelligent and I can hear a skilled musician. I look forward to more fantastic content from you sir.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@_rafael_b
@_rafael_b Жыл бұрын
Hi Andre! This video definitely answered the questions that I had about these kinds of guitars. Especially about bending notes. It was no problem at all. This was a really good experiment. It doesn't make me want to go out and buy one, but I don't think that I would hate one either. Thanks for the great video. Also, I love the graphics. I think that this was your slickest video yet. Incidentally, I saw Steve Vai play in Atlanta back in October and he didn't play any true temperament or fan-fretted guitars. He mostly played various normally fretted Ibanez Jems, and of course the Hydra. He also played an Ibanez semi-hollowbody for the song "Little Pretty". Thanks again for content that no one else is doing. Cheers man! ✌
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rafael! I wonder why Vai stopped? Have a great weekend.
@_rafael_b
@_rafael_b Жыл бұрын
@@andrefludd He may have spoken about them, but I don't remember seeing him actually play one. His Jems guitars have always been normal as far as know, just scalloped up high. Anyway, have a nice weekend as well. I'll see you on your next video.
@ErikratKhandnalie
@ErikratKhandnalie Жыл бұрын
I only just barely passed the isolated chord test, but the difference was *super* obvious one you put it in the full band context
@TaxSlave
@TaxSlave 9 ай бұрын
Impressive ability to communicate...Just Sayin'
@CAVescera
@CAVescera Жыл бұрын
More of this please!
@megalove_music
@megalove_music 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this! I just ordered a true temperment neck! And I can't tell the difference during the tests! Lol. Lucky they look cool! I'm going to be putting it on a variax, so it'll be cool to see the results with some of the open tunings and lower tunings etc.
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge Жыл бұрын
I don't know who you are, or how you got in my feed, but my dear doctor, here is a new subscription for you. I like your cadence, and your explanations were easy to follow. Good Job.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
Hey all, great sounds, the true temperament is a very skillful design and sounds great. The square of 2 are physical precise ratios on the freatboard and they are exact, it is the frequency and the relationship of the distance between A and C that you are using that throws it off, do not look for doubled numbers being the same everywhere, for their natural placement is the correct note that exhanges fo another frequency that fits the ration, this is how college went wrong and ill misunderstood mathmatics are incorrect. The math of it is precise, the ratios are precise and just, so are the all the whole number frequency, trust in the square root of two, make 432 as A and allow C to change freely. All the notes shall have variance, and every note shall be heard, and perfect pitch shall be achieved, it is based on the tree of life, where death hath not any power. Only the tree of the belief that there must also be evil have death.
@PersonSuit
@PersonSuit 7 ай бұрын
Great video. This is probably just 100% something I would have to experience for myself, but listening to the KZfaq samples I honestly preferred the non-TT 3 out of 5 times. I don't know if thats just because my ears have been trained to expect what a non-TT system provides or what, but I was surprised by that.
@seanthomasmusic
@seanthomasmusic Жыл бұрын
I really like your playing style.. I was expecting shreddy maybe fusion style. But it was really subtle, understated, and simply beautiful. So, I appreciate that more than anything else. Thanks for the music!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean :). I don’t think Shreddy stuff highlights these differences as well. Chords much more so
@Rex-golf_player810
@Rex-golf_player810 Жыл бұрын
I think chords might be better to demonstrate these since you can hear whether or not the different notes are "in tune" with each other and whether or not the chords are more or less dissonant in a negative way Or something like that
@TruthSurge
@TruthSurge 8 ай бұрын
my opinion (not a music doctor, just someone who has played for almost 50 years and knows a little about intonation)..... TT is STILL a compromise that does NOT completely fix intonation issues. It does HELP intonation issues between strings and that is where it is most noticeable. IE, playing a major third across 2 strings will sound bad in equal temperament because ... math. The maj 3rd should be flat of equal temperament tuning to sound perfectly in tune. One of the main things TT "fixes" is that flatter major 3rd but... nothing comes free. There is a cost and that is being out of tune. Yes, everything is SLIGHTLY out of tune to make it sound good for those chords but you will be slightly out of tune with OTHER INSTRUMENTS. Just know that. And know that you won't be able to play perfectly in tune fourths, fifths... it's kind of a scam, really. Because just LOOK at the frets on the G STRING. They go flat and sharp and there's really no valid logic to do that. Going ALL FLAT would fix the maj 3rd issue on the G string for those fat bar chords but it would also cause worse issues on all OTHER chords. So.... just think, that's all I'm saying. Eddie solved the maj 3rd problem by detuning his B and E strings. He was out of tune a bit when he need those strings for 4ths and 5ths and octaves but he lived with that because of that massive golden major bar chord he used on 80% of his tunes (Runnin With The Devil is probably the greatest example of it). My verdict... if TT floats your boat and you THINK it improves your tuning, good for you. Buy it if you can afford it. For me, it's a no.
@GummerNH
@GummerNH Жыл бұрын
Nice presentation. The standard frets sounded better in almost every case to me. I think the guitar has bent my ear, lol. I do think nearly as much could be done with setting up your intonation by summing or prioritizing which notes are more in tune, as opposed to defaulting to the 12th fret/ 1st harmonic checks. Once the first drum cracks and a cool breeze rolls in it’s all a balancing act anyway. Vibrato sounds yum.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
That last part is super important
@mikaelstrom169
@mikaelstrom169 Ай бұрын
When i was young i hang a lot with Anders thidell the guy who inveted TT. Back then in the 80s i was amazed by his perfect pitch by ear. He was lightyears ahead of all of us. Really nice guy and i am sad that he is gone.
@peter.peter.r
@peter.peter.r Жыл бұрын
Very well described
@magusking9215
@magusking9215 Жыл бұрын
Makes total sense. And I think really the main problem if you got a TT guitar is that everything else would sound kinda bad in comparison 😂. That could be a problem. Personally I don’t own a TT guitar, however I do own a Strandberg Fanned Frets Boden Prog 7 and the vibrato makes it preferable to stick to one string gauge and one tuning. It’s also more tedious to tune especially when putting on new strings, but once it’s tuned and the bridge is setup properly the guitar stays mostly in tune and gets close to like a Piano sound. When compared to - say for example - my 7 string Ibanez with fixed bridge, then it’s a very different vibe and I’m not quite sure they pair well together in a song or mix. That Strandberg is of course even more radically different than my Telecaster. The Tele being the first solid body guitar model ever made for mass production and Strandberg being a very modern type of instrument company. There’s already a huge difference right there without even getting into the TT realm. So I feel like if your main instrument is a TT guitar you might be putting yourself in a corner. Which can be fine, but not everybody can be Per Nilsson and your sound won’t be a good match for most bands if you try to do sessions or join other bands.
@puffballbk2186
@puffballbk2186 Жыл бұрын
Really good video!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@StephenChapman
@StephenChapman Жыл бұрын
Hey, Andre! Killer video, dude. This is exactly the resource I wish I had way back when I was shopping around for a guitar with a TT fretboard. I ended up going with a Caprison Apple Horn 8. I absolutely love it, but it sure did cost a pretty penny, lol. I'd love to see you check out that guitar on video sometime if you ever get the opportunity! Look it up if you haven't seen one yet (it's Mattias Eklundh's signature guitar). Love your videos, man. I really hope you get out of KZfaq whatever it is you're aiming for, because you certainly deserve with all the time, money, and effort you clearly put into your content!
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your kind words :)
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 Жыл бұрын
andre, i wish i had professors like you in college. you are one cool dude and a very good teacher. don't get me wrong i had great professors, basically the entire los angeles guitar quartet (look them up), and cats like richard smith, larry koons and joe diorio, but you would have made a helluva addition.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that, thank you! My first passion is teaching even before music.
@johndohnson7902
@johndohnson7902 Жыл бұрын
I would actually like to hear this kind of test with identical guitars but with the different fret styles. I think the tonal differences were enough to make one sound better to me than the other and subconsciously impacted my opinion on everything else about the sound.
@BattousaiMLT
@BattousaiMLT Жыл бұрын
True Temperment Free Bird sent me, that was hilarious! Great in depth video for us who havent experienced these yet.
@andrefludd
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
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