I thought the same thing, not nice at all. but in her despair she probably didn't realize what that meant.

You obviously haven’t felt the pain of a child being stolen from you. She said she knew it was selfish. She was just being candid

@@P8_P8 No but I lost my husband to suicide and I didn't wish some "other" wife would suffer instead of me..... You are clearly too self centered and dense to understand that her (and you statement) is immature and egocentric.. She is an ugly, selfish person. I've been watching these stores nonstop for 25 years and NEVER not once did I ever hear a mother make such a disgusting statement.... Sorry not sorry... Her daughter is better off in heaven than on earth with this weirdo

When I was the victim of an assault by a random stranger on the year I had lost my virginity, the first thing that I thought was: “why me???” I’ve done EVERYTHING right and my crazy sister has not!” My sister was the ‘free-spirit’ so to speak. I was the one who kept herself till age 22 to the one I thought I’d be in love with forever, and mere months later assaulted. I was the Christian one, the one who gave my mom no grief, the one who had been physically and mentally abused by our grandma, the one whose dog was squished when he got too excited that I was home by the very school bus I was inside of. I felt the squish. My assault happened quite early on a Sunday evening as I went to use a pay phone (2002) as my roommate refused to let me make an urgent phone call. I had just gotten back from church. Basically, all the bad stuff would always happen to me no matter what I did right. And I never wondered why? Not until that day... I was angry, confused, grieving. Only years down the line, did I understand that none of that mattered. My self-righteous ‘goody-two-shoes’ should not be rewarded or get special treatment in that manner. What needs to happen in our lives is almost more about a combination of luck and purpose, than “God’s grace” instead. Many years of therapy and actual positive things coming out of that event, would shape me into what I am today. So, I went from victim to survivor. I ended up working in the courts. Particularly, inside the same building where my case was decided, had switched from criminal court, to civil. As civil servant when it came time for me to be hired, they asked which court I would prefer in numerical number type preference. My last preference was the Bronx as after having lived there many years in the past, I now lived in Brooklyn, had children, and the fact that I had never returned to the BX after my assault due to my PTSD. Yet, it was exactly where I was assigned. Now back in the same building (w an awesome salary and benefits) totally empowered and much stronger than ever. I was able to yet again, face my fear. Further, my sister turned her life around as it turned out that she had the exact thoughts after my assault. She felt guilty as she also thought: “WHY HER AND NOT ME???” She’s the ‘good one!’ Anyway, we all learned to listen to women and not judge one another. We understand that we should not compare with others. But, that takes time. That takes healing. I understand exactly what and why that mom felt. And in the end, she understood why. Had it not been for her daughter’s struggle (she fought for her life) other victims’ families may have never gotten closure. Same as my case. Of the three victims of that serial rapist, it was me that the jury believed. BECAUSE, I was a ‘good girl.’ 😂 Super awesome as I was the one to put him in jail 25-life. He died in prison. He had full blown aids and no one understood why I wasn’t infected. Turns out my autoimmune disorder diagnosed 4 years after by assault, may have been what spared me as some folks like myself may have immunity to such. We must not judge others so easily. @gr8fulgirl88

I was about to comment,about that.What a horrible thing,for a mother,to wish that on someone else’s daughter.Shocking.

And how most of then are men who play nice

very true. i have refused lifts from lone men and even couples@@niamphdollieofficial

​@@niamphdollieofficialAre you sure about that? Better check again!!! 😂 Women just like to poison people more than men. Tons more females that never get caught. You are also forgetting about kids that kill

26:26 that female was in on it

​@@niamphdollieofficial26:26 she was in on it and or did one of them and or helped! Why would she keep staying around him and end up moving in with him ? Oh yea, she had something to do with it

Coincidences aren't real.

Right! It’s selfish of us to tell her how to feel! Those were her feelings! I totally get it

@Gr8 you're gorgeous.

Beautifully said 😢

There is no excuse,for what she said.

@@MorrowWardWhat she said was selfish.

My deepest condolences to you and your family and friends and her friends until you are reunited once again with your beautiful daughter in heaven🙏🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

Drew Peterson was a pathetic excuse for a man husband or police officer and father

Why wasn’t this guy charged with assaulting a minor whether they were dating or not she was 16 years old when he was almost 40 years old sadly he knew how to groom a minor just like a peudophile would do to his victim he might have been good looking but it would be a huge red flag for me if I were her family or friends

Great advice. Women have been assaulted by taxi drivers. Waking up being rxped in the backseat. Absolutely terrifying and disgusting but it happens.

Or by any other way by themselves.

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@@ultimatums1so?! Does that mean she deserves to die? You’re slow.

What does that mean? She still fought him and cased him to drop his phone which saved many young women

A woman being intoxicated doesn't " put herself in that situation " it doesn't give a man a pass to tske advantage of her. Not to mention she was home! He is a predator, and most likely a serial killer.

@@nataliencube9937where at did this person say she deserved to die? Apparently you have comprehension issues and need some skills to remedy that.

If she stay home and work on her class assignments and not drinking then she would not be in the wrong place.

Yeah that is wild. If it was a guy that’s understandable but you never send a female home alone when she’s drunk with a stranger

So how would you expect them to get home? TY.

But she made it home safe, that's what happens when you are to drunk to think straight

Y? People out together live separately anyway so that’s how you get to your destination, stranger murders are rare anyway. You’re more likely to get killed by the friend than the Uber driver

​@@normn2915Victim blaming & justifying murder: 👎👎

So he clearly has a penchant for assaulting women. It was a hate crime and should be considered such.

Karma coming

A society dictated by men

Amen

Most definitely....

Of course

Never saw anyone so arrogant.

Alcohol and having too much to drink have put *MANY* women of all ages into situations involving sexual assault and/or murders - don't drink too much when you go out partying so you can be more aware of your surroundings and that "sixth sense" intuition of a situation or person being risky remains intact. And unfortunately a woman, regardless of age, walking alone at night, even if it is just 7PM but especially in the late-night hours, is also especially risky, even if she is walking within a college campus or the parking lot of her own apartment. Most parents now know how to teach their young children not to trust strangers, but that same teaching should be continued especially for women for their entire life. Yes, it's sad to say this, but strangers approaching women in public places in order to rape or kill them has been going on for many centuries long before Ted Bundy made it more famous. You do not have to treat every strange man as a potential murderer, but you also cannot be too trusting of any male stranger that approaches a woman or hands a woman a drink that could be potentially drugged. And just as people no longer stand by the side of a road and hitchhike like people often did in the 1950s through the 1970s, any woman working as an escort/prostitute or takes up an offer by a stranger to do a modeling photography session also eventually may regret their decision. Crimes involving husbands/boyfriends killing their partners are harder to prevent, but women drinking a lot of alcohol and either being alone, separating from their friends to mingle with strangers, or separating from friends to be alone do end up being the targets of predatory males unfortunately. Note that I am *NOT* victim-blaming or victim-shaming, but your "how this crap can be prevented" does point a big ugly finger at drinking too much, trusting too many strangers, and a huge dose of common sense (e.g. don't walk alone at night if you are a woman of any age). Men also get into lots of trouble by drinking heavily, but women have far more risks once they become drunk.

The stalker had a previous history of assault (involving his own grandmother and a 2×4). Intuition is important and has saved me many times! But these monsters also shouldn't be let out just to reoffend. It's not okay

You are 1000% victim blaming. They asked how to prevent this crime from happening and you gave advice as to how to prevent it from happening them. At the end of the day, "let another girl be the victim instead" is not a solution. It should be noted that only 12% of female victim homicides are committed by a stranger. A women is safer drinking at a bar then she is arguing with with a partner at home. 15% of women killed by an intimate partner are pregnant. They are very likely not getting drunk at the bar around the time that are killed. It should also be noted that in a stranger assault, it's the male perpetrator's alcohol consumption that increases the likelihood of violence against women, not the female victim's. A woman's alcohol consumption is a predictor of violence in intimate and acquaintance assaults. Preventing violent attacks on women means preventing men from commiting them entirely, not just making them choose a different victim.

Young women…Please don’t do high risk things..like hanging out in bars .

@@anniesmith5953 Wow, first of all, calm down. R-E-L-A-X. First of all, you spout statistics about women drinking at a bar being safer than violence from a partner. II also commented: "Crimes involving husbands/boyfriends killing their partners are harder to prevent." I have a very good friend who got her Masters in Public Health (MPH) and her thesis was on intimate partner violence (IPV) and she previously managed various DV programs in the Seattle/Tacoma area, so none of what you said is surprising. I believe the open-ended question was "how better safety measures could have been implemented to prevent this from ever happening"". The fact remains that men commit the vast majority of violence, both against other men and there is, has been, and will always be far more men-against-women violence than women-against-men-or-women violence. This will always be true on all continents (unlike mass shootings which are nearly always American), and not just for humans, but in many species of the entire animal kingdom (except for preying mantis and some spider species where the female kills the male), the male often commits various predatory actions against the female (e.g. with many big cats in Africa, the male may resort to extreme violence if the female resists mating attempts). Testosterone encourages the brain to act with aggression or violence while serotonin and cortisol counteract testosterone's aggression promoter in humans and all animals. Your last sentence of "Preventing violent attacks on women means preventing men from commiting them entirely, not just making them choose a different victim." is *HUGELY* an idealistic vision of a perfect world. Testosterone does ingrain aggressive behaviors in male humans and all male mammals. So to prevent men from predatory acts against women *entirely* may require emasculating *ALL* men at birth across multiple generations along with weekly doses of serotonin given to all men. And no IPV can happen in the presence of boys since a boy who sees his mother being abused by a husband or boyfriend is more than 10 times likely to commit IPV or violence against women themselves. We are far more likely to prevent mass shootings in the U.S. than trying to prevent men from sexually assaulting or killing women (either IPV or stranger violence). And I don't see the mass shooting problem being fixed in our lifetimes, so violence against women will also not be "entirely prevented" in this millennium. We can all idealize on how rigorous mental health monitoring of everyone will stop mass shootings in the U.S. and violence against women around the world, and how if everyone is taught proper morals and ethics as a child, no crimes will ever happen. And we can idealize that if every man and woman arms themselves with a concealed pistol, that would stop all mass shootings and violence against women. But the ugly reality is that it is nearly impossible to prevent criminals from committing crimes, *WITHOUT* getting into the gun control debate in the U.S., so society's only hope is to find ways to avoid being a victim. That is not victim blaming, but that is reality. In utopia, women have equal rights and equal safety as men, and men never have evil thoughts, but we will *NEVER* approach a utopian society. In fact, we are deviating farther and farther away from utopian ideals.

I'm so sorry beautiful dont let that stop you from feeling beautiful and living an amazing life you deserve it ❤

So sorryx when does the daughter say that? I can’t find it

Please, she can say don't do it to anyone. Why other daughter. No needing. Only selfish people say that. I lose 3 siblings and never wishes someone else.

Exactly it's literally one of the stages of grief. Negotiation - take me, take someone else, anyone but them. The amount of people that don't get that is so annoying.

@@JillyMae89 annoying, what the f you talk about?! Why other people but not herself. A real good mom would say why my daughter. Take me..

@@Solotravellr agree... awful thing for her to say

Or imagine it. My grandma and her sister (great grand aunt) both lost their oldest sons in a tragic way years apart. They never were the same after that and the best way to describe it is, apart of them died too.

Not more cops, stiffer laws, but tell good people to change their lives. Shame on you.

Maybe predators should stop being predators? People should be able to drink alone in their home all they want. Stop the victim blaming

What? Shame on who? And why? People are going to party… esp in college. Police can’t be everywhere… a first line defense might be to not get intoxicated and wander around alone… it is def a vulnerable place to be…. I don’t the the poster meant anything insidious …. Daft muppet… I think they likely meant that there may be safety in numbers… 🤨

@@theoryofpersonality1420 Shame in you for your pathetic and immature comment .

Don’t get drunk at all

You are not the only one. I have said things and instantly, regretted it.

Yes I would say something like I wish this never happened. But I would not even think to say I wish he took someone else’s daughter. That would never cross my mind. So it is weird that she said it that way

Any grieving mother would think that. That's if she's being honest. People have to be fake to avoid judgemental people. I love my daughter, I would have said the same thing.

We are HUMAN ❤

The people jumping all over her for one thoughtless sentence are happily displaying their own misogyny. It's common in murder cases: certain people try to blame the women around the killer, even the victim(s) themselves! It's ignorant and pathetic. Save the vitriol for the murderer.

Bossy much

Define attack 😮

​@@astrialindah2773It's called verbal attacks, which are common on social media.

No, you do not say something like that on national television and think it’s okay. Why would she wish that on someone else’s child? Stop making excuses for people. She’s a victim but she’s still wrong for saying that, point blank

​@@HappyJicamaexactly!

and nephews need to be educated not to rape and attack women or other vulnerable people

Nieces*

@@beaulieuc8910 yeah im sure that worked for ted bundy

Hahahaha!

Power and authority ( cop)

Omg he does!!

Unfortunately they have NO idea how to raise kids.

How about fathers doing the same?

There will always be sickos. Continued education and safety to prevent this. And also better safety on college campuses. And police need to take complaints more seriously. And this is from my own experience.

Women got to respect themselves and other women.

Cops wanted them young. The wives, I noticed, all got fat and unattractive.

Exactly

Wise words, indeed.

Well , sociopath narcissists exist. I married an ex cop and he was just like Drew . He ruined my life at the time . I will never marry a cop again

Sherlock Holmes detected🕵️‍♂️

@@kathyr.8135 Uh, hun, you realize you're responding to a joke, right?

It dose happen though

@@supme7558then go date Drew Peterson . He is a crazy man and guaranteed to have a black eye . He’s in prison. Go. Visit him. A sociopath narcissist

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@belltowndaisywe aren’t living in Mexico. This is Drew Peterson. Go look up his interviews . He a sociopath narcissist

@belltowndaisywe are not talking about Mexico third World Country. We are talking About a first World Country Police Sergeant who happens to be a sociopath. I know . I married one and you can have him .

Most do

..I totally agree..I've said it a hundred times " deceased" is much more respectful,I think it's an American thing" I know in England they use the word " deceased"

Never run alone

That’s what kills me the most, his lawyer knows where Stacey is but he uses attorney client privilege to protect himself and Drew. The night that John Gacy was arrested his attorney said fuck that privilege and called the police. It’s about being a human being above ethics and policy.

@@katmah78 Exactly!

Hell is weeping and gnashing of teeth

@@kathyr.8135 Satin, will lose to Jesus in the end

@@rosearellanes5648 who is Satin? the one wearing silk?

I don’t know that it is that cut and dry. If your father ask you to do a favor for him that doesn’t mean you’re complicit in everything every crime committed still very respectable in my eyes. Made a mistake, but Has been responsible in a lot of other ways….

You don’t know the whole story. Didn’t say he was complicit. 🙄

It did not say in any way he was complicit in his dads crimes. Moron. And if you researched the case, you'd find much more to the story than that shitty one liner. Do your research!!

@@Melissa0820you don’t have to be Einstein to put the pieces together.

@@The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door Clearly you do. Do you know the family? Friends? Probably not. You only hear what the media puts out and you know how that goes.

Bad judgement on their part.

too many people have too much trust

they were also drunk. Messel was stalking them all nite.

sometimes we have have no choice unfortunately, we don't want to risk a taxi or we have no one to take us home if we have a car. i hate walking alone but what I do now i have a personal safety app called hollyapp it alerts close friends where i am and if I am man down or have an incident. they can call police too. i also wear a bodycam but it is amazing how no women ask about the bodycam but men do, women would rather be fashionable and not use a bodycam but i dont care about female fashion which is anti female safety but i will wear it.

I think those pictures are not real but rather a dramatization of the scene.

The current podcast is good but I miss these shows with Chris Hansen. As far as I can tell, it ran from 2015-2020🙂

Chris Hansen has a KZfaq channel- True Blue.

What you talking about Willis

Uh what

@@charlesjackson8896😂😂😂

I took it to mean she was hoping her daughter was still alive and it was someone who kind of looked like her daughter. While it would mean tragedy for another family, it would give her hope of her daughter coming home one day.

The comments lead me to believe what a horrible thing to say but in context, I decided differently. Yes it's hard to hear but I think her point was this is how awful she hurts that she would even think this. Just my opinion after watching the episode. ❤

Absolutely, people should not try to push their grief and loss onto others. I understand that they wish it didn't happen to their lives one. However, the wording was inappropriate. Saying that you wish it was someone else's loved one will come back to bite them on the ass. You can't put that out there if you believe in karma. I do feel sad for them. I personally would not wish that kind of loss on anyone!! 💔

The woman was grieving, so I can understand her statement. No one wants to have a murdered or missing family member. Sometimes you say things you don't mean. I wouldn't want anyone in my family murdered/killed/missing like this. Sometimes you say things you don't mean your words in this type of situation.

For crying out loud! Stop reading into this!! It is called grief, it is called a rhetorical question, and it is called emotion!

They are. How many times they film themselves harassing people in their homes.

She was on there because she wanted to. No one twisted her arm or pulled a gun to her head to do it. Evidently you don't know how this stuff works for shows. She could have declined on anything.

They do not, unfortunately. I never did until I was older, in a bad marriage. I watched litte TV before my 50's.

I feel like they do 😢 but when they go out and get wasted drunk all thinking and common sense goes out the window 😢

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Some do it think it's better than letting them drive or walk home. That has been grilled into a lot of people if you drink, don't drive. Call a cab instead. Growing up in the 80s and 90s , that's all you heard from people and ads. Especially for news eve.

“Coed” (short for “coeducational”) is a system of education where males and females are educated together. A lot of universities in America were established for an all male student body or an all female student body. Use of the term “coed” often means the university in question use to only admit one sex but eventually opened its doors to everyone.

@@toyamwarr While this is a somewhat accurate definition of the term, it has nothing to do with the question I asked.

And "vengeance is mine" saith the Lord...

There's an exception to hearsay ruling. I suspect the pastor's testimony would fall into these qualifiers. I'm not sure, but I THINK pastors (acting in counselor compacity) are bound to similar guidelines as therapists /psychiatrist. It varies but per APA Ethical Principles, there are Duty To Protect/Warn Laws, which trumps confidentiality.

No shame on you for saying that. And they have every right to report stuff like that if someone has said what that lady had said. And some people like her may not want to be recorded knowingly and he probably didn't think to use his fun in disguise to record. You never down someone about that situation. What if that happened to you. Would you want anyone of us say that about you?

@@karentucker2161 sorry I responded to your comment by mistake, thinking it was completely different thread lol! I erased it 😓🫣

@@karentucker2161 sorry I responded to your comment by mistake, thinking it was completely different thread lol! I erased it 😓🫣