RAT KING Got a BUFF in The Final Shape

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True Vanguard

True Vanguard

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Bungie buffed the exotic sidearm Rat King in the Final Shape DLC for Destiny 2 making it much easier to shoot in PVP. But is this buff good enough to make Rat King a genuine contender in the Crucible? Here's my full updated review of this exotic weapon.
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@danperkins4781
@danperkins4781 29 күн бұрын
As a sidearm fanatic myself who lost many sidearm duels with you back in the sbmm days, thank you for moving this review up! Been eagerly awaiting it lol.
@Frostblxde
@Frostblxde 29 күн бұрын
There's still sbmm in this game.
@xXSHDWXx
@xXSHDWXx 29 күн бұрын
I’m upset you didn’t test this out with 5 other players using rat king
@Brian-ch6hg
@Brian-ch6hg 29 күн бұрын
TV: I got this headshot. RK: Gurl look at that body.
@ninetysicks
@ninetysicks 29 күн бұрын
This is exactly how all sidearms should recoil. They did this for Hand Canons in Witch Queen and SMGs much later. Sure, the range buff sidearms received was great; so great that bungie halved this buff; but the recoil and bounce should be addressed. I can’t use any sidearms other than rat king without only seeing my barrel above their head, resulting in me needing to aim at their waist or chest. Please bungie
@nickgrout2502
@nickgrout2502 29 күн бұрын
Oddly enough it's an FOV-related problem. At lower (previously console standard) FOVs, the model takes up less of the screen and doesn't block the reticle.
@unusualthoughts2658
@unusualthoughts2658 29 күн бұрын
The update: you can now see what you shoot. tbh that's my main issue with sidearms, wish they did the same with all others but then we'd be in a sidearm meta all because you can now see what you're shootin' at
@chrispysonic21
@chrispysonic21 29 күн бұрын
I like it on close range maps on my invis hunter. But I always choose my Lonesome with RH/KC. Cooks on any map ❤ but thanks for the review homie
@DaReapa
@DaReapa 28 күн бұрын
Glad to see your also working on Mahees, sleeper hand cannon.
@tarnue4449
@tarnue4449 29 күн бұрын
TV idk how often you go back to your guerilla warfare stasis hunter but i would love to see your take on that build with the prismatic kit, i’ve been really enjoying it a lot!
@1chill_623
@1chill_623 29 күн бұрын
Guides for SE 2nd and 3rd encounters coming soon?
@Philusteen
@Philusteen 29 күн бұрын
Ive been loving my old Last Hope with ricochet / rangefinder / tzp trigger / farpoint.
@madddogg145
@madddogg145 29 күн бұрын
I love it! Bought the helmet too
@TalonRahl
@TalonRahl 29 күн бұрын
Fully automatic causes bloom which is why this hits less heads. If you pace your shots with trigger pulls as you mention rather than holding you can hit more heads for sure. I only have like 2k kills in crucible on mine but still I’d definitely say that’s the problem you’re referencing.
@JP238100
@JP238100 29 күн бұрын
Traveler’s judgement has always been my go-to, might try this now
@Kumari_44
@Kumari_44 27 күн бұрын
Best sidearm in the game.
@jaypierce7577
@jaypierce7577 24 күн бұрын
Just used tonight. Constantly dropping 2.0-4.0kd
@ghosthouse6672
@ghosthouse6672 29 күн бұрын
Been running it with sniper and Omni.. I feen the cheddar
@Daemonic6
@Daemonic6 29 күн бұрын
For me if you need sidearm with hit head constistency it's be Devil's Ruin and Cryosthesia
@Kumari_44
@Kumari_44 27 күн бұрын
Travellers chosen 👍🏽
@mdslick1362
@mdslick1362 24 күн бұрын
The rat king and the armor that gives you two dodges and the ability that says every time you dodge you reload your weapon. Does great. It helps you to invisible alittle faster..
@asaltysailor9503
@asaltysailor9503 28 күн бұрын
Back in year one this gun also used to be semi-auto, it never was meant for full auto unless using the pack gimmick. When travelers chosen got turned full auto I dropped it too until it was reverted. Devils ruin ironically stayed goated due to clean sights, built in zen moment, and being extremely reliable tap firing and laser.
@SydneyPayne87
@SydneyPayne87 29 күн бұрын
Oh wow you claw very differently lol I claw where my pointer finger is jumping and dodging and reloading, not on the sticks. I’ll have to try your way out.
@lumas69
@lumas69 29 күн бұрын
Could I encourage people to get turned on to a bumper jumper customized setup? On a standard controller you can aim fire chuck grenades jump slide sprint without ever letting go of the thumb sticks. All your other actions are a finger reach away on the face buttons. If you custom map your dpad a little bit which I've not even bothered utilizing yet you can put your pointer on movement duty while accessing several key functions with your thumb. It takes getting used to but once you do you'll hate having it mapped any other way.
@justagamethrower
@justagamethrower 29 күн бұрын
Nah
@FAUXCUSpd
@FAUXCUSpd 29 күн бұрын
getting a controller with back buttons/paddles is much easier and not super expensive. you can find cheap controllers at gamestop with back buttons.
@lumas69
@lumas69 28 күн бұрын
@@FAUXCUSpd i will man I'm just a very poor single father I make do a lot. My gaming approach is very duct tape mentality
@lumas69
@lumas69 28 күн бұрын
@@FAUXCUSpd i do want a better controller though, I'm about 3 button mappings shy of never breaking contact with thumb sticks for any reason, like 4 little extra back paddles would be incredible and I know they make controllers like that
@Mech-Gouki
@Mech-Gouki 29 күн бұрын
I don't understand why there isn't a Lightweight Primary slot 1 kinetic sidearm with origin trait yet. I need one with a fun perk's pool.
@4zureSapphire
@4zureSapphire 29 күн бұрын
if I can surmise, most lightweight primaries hadn't existed before or were only found on blue weapons. Recently we got The Riposte which is a lightweight AR, an archetype that had not existed before until after Final Shape. Just like Rose, it is special and probably only found in comp.
@Xander--gd5lb
@Xander--gd5lb 28 күн бұрын
@@4zureSapphirethis just doesn’t apply… Rose and Riposte are special in that Autos and HCs didn’t have a legendary with that bonus at the time of their introduction. It’s meant to set them apart. Sidearms have had a lightweight frame (360 RPM) since their introduction. The OP wants a new kinetic slot one since the only gun of that archetype we’ve gotten since which queen has been Heliocentric. Farewell and Spoiler Alert are 2 great lightweight sidearms in the kinetic slot.
@rhyshuber9981
@rhyshuber9981 29 күн бұрын
Just watching the gameplay it looks like it has more recoil now. I never had a problem 4 tapping people but I haven’t used it this update
@hippob0tamus713
@hippob0tamus713 29 күн бұрын
Critical Anomaly review coming soon?
@Xander--gd5lb
@Xander--gd5lb 28 күн бұрын
It’s an adaptive sidearm at base. It was semi auto if you didn’t have the perk active until somewhat recently. People thought the RoF change was too jarring. That’s why it deals the exact same numbers as Drang and has the same exact fire rate. It was an adaptive Sidearm with built in full auto. Now with TFS, it’s got the firing animation of a Rapid Fire Frame so you can actually see what you’re shooting at when using it with other people. A consequence of this is better recoil in PvP, but likely stronger bloom.
@wrongthink3885
@wrongthink3885 29 күн бұрын
It came in quite useful in legendary solo campaign.
@deanwalker38
@deanwalker38 28 күн бұрын
I noticed a BIG difference in this sidearm in the new season, but couldn't think what? Love using this with my ratpack pvp buds, even though I'm crap 😂😂😂
@lotr98765
@lotr98765 22 күн бұрын
Thanks
@Ice-ou6es
@Ice-ou6es 29 күн бұрын
Rat king has been my favorite sidearm for a long time, but heliocentric still exists and is still very good.
@skuirrelTV
@skuirrelTV 29 күн бұрын
I have the gun, but need the catalyst. I hope Xur sells the catalyst soon!
@philipbrackett443
@philipbrackett443 28 күн бұрын
Only thing I can think of is that full auto has an accuracy cone penalty, kind of like Forerunner. Tapping the trigger keeps the cone nice and tight for rapid headshots--that's my theory anyway
@FootBeard
@FootBeard 29 күн бұрын
I'll try it out but having to put down Forerunner is gonna hurt
@freakinsweetdude
@freakinsweetdude 26 күн бұрын
It looks like it shares the same recoil animation of cryo now.
@shoop52
@shoop52 29 күн бұрын
When did you come back to Destiny?
@Sliq_tv
@Sliq_tv 28 күн бұрын
I like Rat King because of its powerful exotic perks. I think if it was a good dueler it would be way too good. Invis and health regen is a bonkers strong combo and has a lot of class and exotic armor synergy.
@melvinnavarro5671
@melvinnavarro5671 29 күн бұрын
Hey there TV. We have never met but I just wanted to say that I appreciate your videos, insight, and whole vibe. I wanted to push you to keep pressing on as I have been a long time fan. I also heard in one of your recent videos that you have a degree in biblical languages which I wouldn’t mind picking your brain about someday if I ever get the chance. I hope that you and your family are doing well and I pray blessings be with your channel and content. Thanks for all you do.
@oinkwoof8378
@oinkwoof8378 27 күн бұрын
Great breakdown. I love Rat King, but maybe is the right answer on this buff.
@griffinshields2259
@griffinshields2259 29 күн бұрын
pc player here- its zero to 100 on MnK. my pc group have all decided its the very first sidearm that is perfect on MnK. i am a meager 1.0 player and i can extremely regularly hit 4 heads, and i never did that one single time on any sidearm before the rat king recoil change.
@Sudden-Death
@Sudden-Death 29 күн бұрын
It’s a laser now almost zero recoil, but I can’t get j to it still somehow
@anobodyonyoutubesaid
@anobodyonyoutubesaid 29 күн бұрын
Here’s a tip you don’t need rat king to go invisible. Just play anything and there you go
@thchildishalbino2819
@thchildishalbino2819 29 күн бұрын
just played a trials match with you, at least i hope it was the real tv
@TrueVanguard
@TrueVanguard 29 күн бұрын
yup. ggs!
@thchildishalbino2819
@thchildishalbino2819 27 күн бұрын
ayee, ggs!
@wolf07913
@wolf07913 29 күн бұрын
I can’t get the cat to drop. Waiting on Xur
@asrielhirai7031
@asrielhirai7031 29 күн бұрын
I was thinking of using sidearms in pvp and then I checked my subscribed page what the fuck
@xironheadx-4590
@xironheadx-4590 29 күн бұрын
Awww but i liked the old recoil pattern. It was fun
@renegadezero0
@renegadezero0 27 күн бұрын
I'll stick with my buzzard and allied demand. They just hit crits better. Plus swash makes it a 3 crit terror
@Fei2222
@Fei2222 29 күн бұрын
I’m coming up on 20k PvP kills with rat king. I think it’s worth using.
@ZlPPENHAFT
@ZlPPENHAFT 29 күн бұрын
Traveler's chosen is way more consistent, it's day and night.
@mellebo4112
@mellebo4112 29 күн бұрын
Do you know any pvp focused clans I can join??
@HAVARMS
@HAVARMS 29 күн бұрын
⁠@@ZlPPENHAFTyes but the rat king heals you and makes you invisible. Can’t tell you how many 2v1s I’ve clutched in trials thanks to that. Traveler’s Chosen wins you duels. Rat King wins you matches
@ZlPPENHAFT
@ZlPPENHAFT 29 күн бұрын
@@HAVARMS well traveler's choosen gives abilities by alot. i dont really enjoy invis since radar nerf.
@MrCODYROB55
@MrCODYROB55 29 күн бұрын
This guns stats look bad compared to travelers but I've been messing people up with the king. It's amazing
@FAUXCUSpd
@FAUXCUSpd 29 күн бұрын
rat king is one of those weapons that’s so good that it’s kind of boring to use because you just roll basically everyone you see
@vindeta360
@vindeta360 29 күн бұрын
I have hated rat king since the very first time I tried it. After the buff I tried again. Still hate it. Your dead on about it being allergic to head shots.. its so painful
@Kumari_44
@Kumari_44 27 күн бұрын
The guns amaaaazing :)
@more.art.less.war.
@more.art.less.war. 25 күн бұрын
Skill issue
@ZlPPENHAFT
@ZlPPENHAFT 29 күн бұрын
thanks now i know why i hate this sidearm and i love sidearms. thats sad that bungie penalize us for holding the trigger...
@naiveveg8447
@naiveveg8447 29 күн бұрын
its new recoil bugs me. not cuz its not better just that i was much much more used to its old recoil animations.
@coinisinorbit
@coinisinorbit 29 күн бұрын
TLDR Tap fire and use claw grip on controller
@TwoFugs
@TwoFugs 29 күн бұрын
Yup, perfectly said
@ryangraham3076
@ryangraham3076 29 күн бұрын
👑🐀
@lumas69
@lumas69 29 күн бұрын
It's crazy how much time .07 seconds is in crucible and yet people still call Destiny slow
@martindesgagnes6368
@martindesgagnes6368 29 күн бұрын
Destiny gunfights don’t happen in a vacuum. With all that Prismatic space-magic going on, Rat King is just too good to pass up for me!
@LuniNightwind
@LuniNightwind 29 күн бұрын
Was hard to hit head shots with Rat King?
@SuperRaids13
@SuperRaids13 26 күн бұрын
Alright rat king is unironically overpowered.
@nicholasgrogan856
@nicholasgrogan856 29 күн бұрын
2 things need to be said here. 1. We didnt get better. Bungie allowed to triple stack enhanced targeting mods and that is the "skill" difference. You used to at MAX have 1 enhanced targeting mod and more likely you had a single normal targeting mod. 2. You can still just body spam ppl with sidearms for easy kills.
@SubmarineElk6
@SubmarineElk6 29 күн бұрын
In all honesty I prefer the old shooting animation for the rat king but the new one is alright
@wezzy9437
@wezzy9437 29 күн бұрын
I wish they'd do this to Sunshot because it's recoil is ridiculous.
@FAUXCUSpd
@FAUXCUSpd 29 күн бұрын
ong bruh
@Copeharder00
@Copeharder00 28 күн бұрын
Drang > Rat king
@candi_appel
@candi_appel 29 күн бұрын
i just wish Sidearms felt as comfortable to use on Mnk as they did on roller :(
@FootBeard
@FootBeard 29 күн бұрын
There are some that do. I highly recommend trying High Albedo with headseeker, lonesome with zen moment, or any other burst that has tap the trigger
@MrMalvurious
@MrMalvurious 29 күн бұрын
so you're holding the controller a little bit like a rat wound?
@lucasblanchard47
@lucasblanchard47 29 күн бұрын
What?
@LimySilver2
@LimySilver2 29 күн бұрын
I used it after watching dfp ise it in a video but i still didnt like it
@curtisnielsen1399
@curtisnielsen1399 29 күн бұрын
I guess this is why I saw a 3 stack using this in comp this weekend. We had a 3 stack, but one member d/c. The 3 stack annihilated the two of us with those...
@michaeljaca7831
@michaeljaca7831 29 күн бұрын
I can't F'n unlock the damn catalyst because I need to use it with people who use it! damn stupid
@Kumari_44
@Kumari_44 27 күн бұрын
At least you have it. It will never ever drop for me in strikes. Ever. I hope xur sells it this week.
@akuchi_bleh
@akuchi_bleh 20 күн бұрын
You can get and complete it alone though, just takes longer
@GingerBeardMan977
@GingerBeardMan977 29 күн бұрын
i still need to have people do the catalyst for me. why does it require other people to use it to get it. EDIT: apparently you can just get kills with it now
@Twinfalcon31
@Twinfalcon31 29 күн бұрын
It's doesn't anymore....thank me later
@GingerBeardMan977
@GingerBeardMan977 29 күн бұрын
@@Twinfalcon31 only fireteam members will advance the objective
@Twinfalcon31
@Twinfalcon31 28 күн бұрын
@GingerBeardMan977 try again cause I just completed solo. Equip it, shoot stuff and voilà It's faster with fireteam but not necessary anymore.......thank me later😉
@GingerBeardMan977
@GingerBeardMan977 28 күн бұрын
@@Twinfalcon31 I'm stupid and never noticed that's on me
@TestingTesting1
@TestingTesting1 29 күн бұрын
If they make D3, here’s hoping they keep invis out of PvP
@Spartan0417
@Spartan0417 25 күн бұрын
I miss the old recoil animation. I could consistently get headshots with it but I can’t with this new one. I wish they’d put it back
@AkiAndFam
@AkiAndFam 29 күн бұрын
Should you use it? Yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah 😂
@AkiAndFam
@AkiAndFam 29 күн бұрын
Jokes aside, glad to see the rat king lives on best as a group used weapon - stacking weapons like this or malfeasance makes for fun silliness in crucible to break up the regular meta!
@BigZaddyYumYum
@BigZaddyYumYum 29 күн бұрын
Its a small cancerous tumor in pvp and i love it
@The_Ragequit_Cannon
@The_Ragequit_Cannon 29 күн бұрын
Personally I like to pair Rat King with Graviton Forfeit. Match made in heaven if you ask me
@jbazley001
@jbazley001 29 күн бұрын
I stopped playing three years ago, and the rat king was a beast then. You're late TV.
@DrMetalpin
@DrMetalpin 29 күн бұрын
The difference is that now you can just use it effectively solo without the rest of the team having to also use it.
@zun-viik
@zun-viik 28 күн бұрын
6:32 You hold the controller like a sped kid's first game. No, it's not easier to hit shots when "your pointer finger in on the THUMBSTICKS" Maybe just hold your controller firmly? How hard are you TAPPING your fuckin trigger, TAP!? You've literally not given an example of why this is better just fucked up and worse. The "best" way is pointer on R/L1, middle on R/L2, THUMBS ON THUMB STICKS (that's the important one) "Yah I play M+K w my feet, it's just way better for aiming. Gives me more leverage"
@donovan9316
@donovan9316 29 күн бұрын
When you claw - where’s your thumb? Middle finger on trigger, and pointer on sticks? Your clawing sounds bonkers 😂
@TrueVanguard
@TrueVanguard 29 күн бұрын
I lost my right thumb in a horrific foreplay incident. I kid. I totally brainfarted and misspoke on that section. Thumb on stick, pointer on reload/jump/crouch/swap, middle finger on the trigger.
@lukatosic09
@lukatosic09 29 күн бұрын
Skill issue TV
@0ptimismPrime
@0ptimismPrime 29 күн бұрын
clicked off the video as soon as being a controller player was mentioned
@TrueVanguard
@TrueVanguard 29 күн бұрын
i literally don't care lol
@warriorgoat5939
@warriorgoat5939 29 күн бұрын
Stayed because it mentioned playing on a controller.
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