Trump is Not Immune from Prosecution, Duh.
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@LegalEagle 3 ай бұрын
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@osmosisjones4912 3 ай бұрын
Democrats are planing ordering seal team 6 to assisanate Donald Trump
@michaelmayhem350 3 ай бұрын
He already filed an appeal with the Supreme Court.
@dee_dee_place 3 ай бұрын
Devin- Thank you for explaining this matter from only a legal perspective. All the other channels are explaining it with their opinions thrown in. I can make my own decisions on matters; I don't want anyone else to try & sway me with their opinions. Just give me the facts, & I will use my critical thinking mind to come to my own conclusions. Thanks, again.
@calvinlynch5014 3 ай бұрын
The Supreme Court taking these cases just because Trumps name is on it are why our Supreme Court is breaking our laws. They are in fact placing the people's cases in double and triple jeopardy because they will interfere with any conviction with any technicality they come up with. What's happening isn't Justice at all it's a continual abuse of criminal cases that cannot even be tried because of the abuse and undue burden placed upon the people's cases. This is not equal justice by any standards. Unconstitutional interference at every turn and even if a conviction occurs it's going back to the criminal Supreme Court. Hopeless at this point and Trump has already won. Having a Judge Cannon still looking at a case involving Trump is unlawful in itself.
@andiralosh2173 3 ай бұрын
How does one appeal a bonk?
@daiakunin 3 ай бұрын
Let's take a moment to reflect on the former president's legal strategy. He's not saying he's innocent. He's not saying he didn't break the law. He's saying he can commit any crime he wants to because he has 'presidential immunity'.
@Techydad 3 ай бұрын
Without realizing that he's arguing in court that Biden could assassinate him legally. Would Biden that? No. Should Biden do that? Definitely not. But the mere fact that Trump is saying that would be legal is extremely worrying for many reasons.
@jordansweet8054 3 ай бұрын
That's like me breaking my parents rules as a kid and saying I'm to special to be punished or have to follow the rules. Yuck.
@Rawnblade13 3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of his defenses against E. Jean Carroll. He rarely actually denied doing what he was accused of, he just said things like "She's not my type".
@HopefulCanadian 3 ай бұрын
AND if he didn’t commit any crimes why is he fighting so hard for complete immunity. Also how many pardons did he give out to his friends before leaving office (if they hadn’t committed any crimes either, why did they need pardons?)
@warlordofbritannia 3 ай бұрын
It's like his musing on whether to pardon himself. Why would you need to pardon yourself if you're innocent?
@SurlyHannah 3 ай бұрын
The whole point of the Constitution was keeping any one person or group from having ultimate power. How this immunity bs is even a question is bizarre at best, and dangerous.
@NiteshadeX2 3 ай бұрын
Easy. They just want a dictatorship
@derpeth2101 3 ай бұрын
Not really, the US constitution endorsed slavery.
@prismpyre7653 3 ай бұрын
and then fasciset appointees to the courts can just drag out 'deliberations' of such absurd made up questions for years and years until election time so it becomes a totally moot point anyway anyone counting on courts to save us in this country is a fool- courts in this country were designed to *shield* wealthy men from justice, not bring it to them
@mitchconner403 3 ай бұрын
I love how the entire purpose of the Judiciary system is the determine if something the President or congress does is constitutional or unconstitutional But Trump is all like. “Actually the judiciary department is corrupt, and I can determine what is constitutional.”😂 it is funny that he doesn’t understand the irony of that. That is exactly what I would say if I was trying to do something unconstitutional
@bobhanson1037 3 ай бұрын
Constitution is just a means to the end they want. They will shit on it like they have so many times.
@FoxGaming00 3 ай бұрын
Things went from "i dident break the law" to "i broke the law but im allowed to"
@bluecoffeecancergirl8589 3 ай бұрын
Exactly!! 😆 🤣 lol
@thatjillgirl 3 ай бұрын
It's just Nixon again. "If the president does it, it's not illegal."
@michaelgreenwood3413 3 ай бұрын
Actually, he never said said "I didn't break the law." Ever. it was always "I'm allowed to break the law because I'm the president."
@GerryRR 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelgreenwood3413he claims both, he says he did everything "perfectly legal".
@jefflebowski8470 3 ай бұрын
Trumpers are always moving the goal post...
@danimartin818 3 ай бұрын
Republicans during impeachment: It is not approriate for us to hold him responsible, put him through a criminal trail after he gets out of office. Republicans now: It is not appropriate for him to be put through a criminal trail now that he is out of office, he should have been held responsible during impeachment.
@0ctopusComp1etely 3 ай бұрын
Ha ha So true
@AH-64EApacheGuardianHelicopter 3 ай бұрын
Pepople who are not from Us: 🤣
@JimDandy49 3 ай бұрын
What a catch 22 they have invented.
@fourierbird 3 ай бұрын
@@AH-64EApacheGuardianHelicopterpeople from US who have functional frontal lobes: 😭
@Rugelacharugula 3 ай бұрын
@@fourierbirdpeople anywhere with family trees that fork…
@chegeny 3 ай бұрын
Why on Earth would anyone support a candidate who wants absolute immunity to commit any crime? It's absolute insanity.
@arturoaguilar6002 3 ай бұрын
My guess is that they expect his crimes to be against the people they hate...
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
@@arturoaguilar6002 Until they run out of those people and he goes after them, it happens every time.
@Spuzaw 3 ай бұрын
@@arturoaguilar6002Exactly. They want a dictator that will enforce all of the policies that they agree with. Republicans no longer care about democracy or the constitution. They want to destroy the whole system and empower the man that agrees with them.
@Dan55888 3 ай бұрын
Trump voters are not voting with any sort of brain power behind them...
@gregorturner9421 3 ай бұрын
@@youdontneedtoknow7548 or those people get in the way of him making phat profit.
@mafuletrekkie 3 ай бұрын
I mean, Trump's argument seems to be that if Biden can get 34 Democratic Senators to sign off on it then Biden can walk a team into a courtroom, find Trump, remove his head, stick it on a pike to post on the Courts steps and there is nothing that the Court could do about it. The level of arrogance that that argument takes is just mind-boggling.
@YourMajesty733 3 ай бұрын
This. AND Biden could get all the conservative SC justices "removed" and lead an insurrection after his 8yrs to remain in power. The democratic party would become a one party dictatorship.
@mattf5935 3 ай бұрын
It is because he knows Democrats would never do that but he has all kinds of things planned if he gets a second term. No need to go small here where you have big ambitions and you already stacked the Supreme Court. So it is now a bet on how far his appointed justices + 1 will bend for him. (You know he already has Thomas.)
@kray3883 3 ай бұрын
Remember he also thinks that it's OK to invade a country if they don't pay a fair share.... If we extend that to individuals.............
@MrBeetsGaming 3 ай бұрын
@@mattf5935 You people are so ridiculous.... God you will literally believe anything the democrats say, this is absolute nonsense.
@jaelwyn 3 ай бұрын
@@mattf5935 I've seen this stated repeatedly. I honestly have to wonder if Biden might not have all SCOTUS members who voted in favor of it immediately locked up and simply be willing to take the hit when the court eventually reversed itself into sanity. Heck, he could simply say it was for their own protection, and probably not even be lying. There would be a whole lot of unhappy people, and some of them would almost certainly decide it was worth it to make a point. Biden may seem easy-going, but I really don't think he would let that kind of "malarkey" slide without demonstrating exactly why it was such a problem… in the nicest possible way.
@gnohms 3 ай бұрын
Grant was pulled over twice while having horse-drawn wagon races through the streets of DC during his term, and he did try to say he couldn't be ticketed because he was President. The same cop pulled him over both times, and basically said "no you don't" and Grant paid the fine.
@mitchellenderson7194 3 ай бұрын
Now this is a story I need to know more about. Do you have a source I can start my search at?
@steeb3778 3 ай бұрын
@mitchellenderson7194 They're documented in Wikipedia's "Arrests of Ulysees S. Grant" article. I'm not an expert on historicity or whatever, but it seems like the narrative of Grant getting arrested is based on newspaper articles publishing things people said around that time and they don't have actual documentation or evidence of any arrests actually happening. But thats just what I got from Wikipedia, idk
@moo123wat 3 ай бұрын
@@mitchellenderson7194 "When President Ulysses S. Grant Was Arrested for Speeding in a Horse-Drawn Carriage" by the Smithsonian Magazine, of the Smithsonian Institute. The title you can find online with google. Very recent article with pictures of the time talking about the only office who arrested a president, there's also a link right below that picture to the newspaper clipping host website.
@AlexVanDover 3 ай бұрын
Whenever I hear this story, it's always Grant that was the one who asked the officer to fine him like everyone else?
@WJS774 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, because having races in the street is _totally_ part of the duties of a president, right?
@Tamizushi 3 ай бұрын
The more power someone has, the more accountable they should be held. Always be suspicious of anybody who seeks power whilst also seeking immunity from accountability. That's the sign of a horrible leader.
@itsd0nk 3 ай бұрын
Trump’s lawyers: “You shouldn’t impeach trump here... You should convict him in criminal court!” Also Trump’s lawyers: “You can’t convict Trump in criminal court... You have to impeach him first!” So, basically their legal defense strategy is being that really annoying friend that ruined every game you tried to play as a group.
@wta1518 3 ай бұрын
It's like when you ask your dad for something, and he says "go ask your mom". Then you ask your mom, and she says "go ask your dad". Except usually the thing I'm asking for doesn't involve overthrowing the government of the United States.
@TheBunnyodeath 3 ай бұрын
Lol
@ebnertra0004 3 ай бұрын
This is the time-honored 20 GOTO 10 strategy
@markg.7865 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, now they are even arguing the president isn't a officer of the U.S.
@BatkoNashBandera774 3 ай бұрын
you don't know my life@@wta1518
@TheAceAdventurer80 3 ай бұрын
Isn't this, in theory, also a ruling on whether or not Joe Biden can just wack Trump and solve all our problems? Or am I understanding wrong?
@RHCole 3 ай бұрын
Nah, you're right.
@JohnDoe-jh5yr 3 ай бұрын
According to Trump's argument, yes.
@magpie_jazz 3 ай бұрын
Logically, yes, but you must understand that Trump (and the GOP in general for that matter) is always striving to operate on "Rules for thee, not for me."
@RFDN0 3 ай бұрын
Trump will try to have it pushed to after the Election.
@thefourshowflip 3 ай бұрын
Yes. We’ve been warned about this for centuries …just as one example: “He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.”-Thomas Paine (1795)
@jasonrodenbeck5064 3 ай бұрын
The most absurd circular reasoning of "we can't convict him on the impeachment because that's up to the DOJ to arrest him" then "you can only indict him criminally if he is convicted on impeachment."
@zklpr4661 3 ай бұрын
It's hilarious how Trump's legal defense went from "I didn't do it" to "I should be allowed to get away with it" after being confronted with hard evidence.
@Grimmtoof 3 ай бұрын
The irony is by the time America became independent it had already been established that even the king of Britain wasn't above the law. The last king that tried got beheaded!
@exoZelia 3 ай бұрын
We should take the opportunity to bring that back
@saltzkruber732 3 ай бұрын
Great Britain was a constitutional monarchy in the 18th century. And they got rid of slavery 30 years before the US. So what Patrick Henry should have said is «Give some of us liberty or give some of us death»
@midwinter78 3 ай бұрын
Nah, that was the one before. After that there was the Glorious Revolution where the King was driven off and replaced by one who promised to be a good boy and do as he was told. Either that, or we arranged to be conquered by The Netherlands. Take your pick. Anyway there was the original Bill of Rights, some clauses of which were, err... creatively... interpreted by American revolutionaries.
@saltzkruber732 3 ай бұрын
Great Britain was a constitutional monarchy in the 18th century
@davidlloyd1526 3 ай бұрын
Compare the dates of the Declaration of Independence with the dates that Britain first had legal cases declaring that Slavery was illegal. Just saying.
@zdrusse11 3 ай бұрын
His argument is akin to "All dogs are mammals. Cats are not dogs, therefore cats must not be mammals."
@emw8386 3 ай бұрын
look if cats were mammals the framers of the constitution surely would have included them in a list of like four mammals
@sitfish1113 3 ай бұрын
Clearly cats aren't mammals because the constitution said all hair covered animals are mammals. They didn't say cat once!
@ToEuropa 3 ай бұрын
No, his argument is more like, "I'm Donald Trump and I'm an ex-president. Therefore, I'm above the law. And once I'm president again, I'm going to prosecute ex-president Joe Biden."
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 3 ай бұрын
Too high brow. This case is more about the precedent set in I Know You Are v What Am I, the landmark ruling upheld after I Am Rubber v You Are Glue
@ZombiePepperoni 3 ай бұрын
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThingrubber v glue was a landmark case.
@SaiyanHeretic 3 ай бұрын
It's crazy to me that this is even up for debate. *Nobody is above the law, period.*
@geoffok 3 ай бұрын
Unless you're rich, famous, and powerful. Then you can do whatever the hell you want.
@5267w 3 ай бұрын
@@LBCAndrew that was done under the AUMF if he had done it randomly or on US soil it likely would have been a crime but it wasnt
@julianemery718 3 ай бұрын
@@geoffok Which is obviously insane, but it's unfortunate that's how it seems to work currently. But ideally, no one should be above the law, period.
@johndoe6032 3 ай бұрын
This has never been about Trump believing and eventually receiving total immunity. Doing so would mean he's implying Biden can kill him and get away with it. This has always been about delaying his trial until he can go hide in the oval office again. The crazy thing will be if the SCOTUS doesn't just immediately say the lower court is right and allow Trump the prosecution delays he is really looking for in all of this.
@wensiangfong 3 ай бұрын
Lol Biden, his son and hilary seems to be above the law.
@paultapping9510 3 ай бұрын
Taking a pardon while claiming innocence is somewhat like asking for an extension for a paper whilst claiming you've finished writing it.
@BaronSengir1008 3 ай бұрын
Technically, accepting a pardon does NOT automatically mean they were guilty of it in the first place...
@erinodonnell386 3 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who still genuinely believes that our leaders should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us, not a lower one?
@ianrau6373 3 ай бұрын
You and me may think that, but those in power are clearly still on the fence.
@warlordofbritannia 3 ай бұрын
With great power comes great responsibility
@Rawnblade13 3 ай бұрын
@@ianrau6373Unfortunately many of our fellow citizens don't think as such either. All Republican voters want to put this wanna-be dictator back in power and make him our absolute ruler.
@jhemp 3 ай бұрын
@@warlordofbritanniawith great power comes great disappointment more like it.
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
@@jhemp Every time.
@pridelander06 3 ай бұрын
"Now the average American probably thought they already had the answer to this question because, like, duh." I'm afraid the 45th President has raised a lot of questions I thought the answers were painfully obvious only for me to be sadly mistaken.
@ajlichty7399 3 ай бұрын
There’s a podcast called “What Roman Mars can learn about con law” where a constitutional scholar outlines the constitutional questions that Trump has brought up. It’s quite good and I do suggest it because it’s absolutely brought down to the average person’s ability to grasp the questions.
@pikapowns 3 ай бұрын
@@ajlichty7399 If we are just recommending law podcasts, I like the 5-4 podcast.
@Rawnblade13 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately a significant chunk of the American population would love nothing more than to have Trump as a dictator in power...
@PeterAlanA1234567890 3 ай бұрын
If you vote blue then your mistake mn.
@longforgotten4823 3 ай бұрын
We have seem to have evolved into a society where simple questions require very lengthy processes to now confirm. I have noticed this in scientific journals, public understanding of civics, education, and other disciplines.
@sauron1427 3 ай бұрын
Imagine arguing that presidents can kill their political rivals while your own political rival is president
@VisibleNoises 3 ай бұрын
Genius strategy 😅
@lyndsaybrown8471 3 ай бұрын
He knows Biden won't do it because Biden has morals and a country to run.
@mobiusflammel9372 3 ай бұрын
@@lyndsaybrown8471 Biden also views Trump as the greatest domestic threat in the country, and if the court did argue presidents have the kind of immunity Trump is saying they do I could see a scenario where he decides Trump has to go.
@TrueMohax 3 ай бұрын
@@lyndsaybrown8471 What morals?
@BaronSengir1008 3 ай бұрын
@@TrueMohaxThe morals that Trump clearly lacks...
@IceWolfLoki 3 ай бұрын
What sort of constitution would give someone legal immunity from trying to overthrow the government? It's pretty much the one thing it absolutely wouldn't give immunity to.
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl. 3 ай бұрын
Giorgio Agamben’s book “State of Exception” is kind of about that
@dielaughing73 3 ай бұрын
You know that, and I know that, but tens of millions of American voters don't care to think about it
@bud4121 3 ай бұрын
The constitution is there to tell the government what they can not do to citizens, also read the bill of rights about what duty the citizens have regarding the government
@antaresthirdeldenlord4840 3 ай бұрын
bruh he didnt try to "overthrow the government"
@adamwheelerproductions1607 3 ай бұрын
@@antaresthirdeldenlord4840 He literally did though.
@Alister222222 3 ай бұрын
What citizen would EVER support a constitution that either said or implied that 'whoever is in charge can commit an infinite number of crimes against anybody in the country without consequence'? That is, frankly, a non-functioning constitution, or an authoritarian one. I can only assume that those wishing the president was allowed to commit crimes at will basically expect that the president will commit those crimes against people they don't like. Which is, you know, deplorable.
@ypp0p 3 ай бұрын
Doesnt matter what the citizens think if the ruling class can keep them fighting amongst themselves
@Meamery 3 ай бұрын
They can’t be republicans and want monarchy they have to pick
@Chiefs_fan1595 3 ай бұрын
Great point. These same people who feel that way are incapable of realizing Donald Trump can and DEFINITELY will turn on them. As he has shown time and time again.
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
@@Chiefs_fan1595 Every time and he's pretty blatantly obvious about it. Somebody turns against him and all the sudden they're just the coffee boy that he doesn't know. He'd find a way for his own kids under the bus if he could.
@isabelmcgaugh711 3 ай бұрын
@@youdontneedtoknow7548 I mean, he already did in the case about his New York businesses. He blamed his kids for the mismanagement of his company and tried to say he wasn’t aware of any of the illegal activity his company had taken, it was all under the direction of his kids.
@grayoso1828 3 ай бұрын
I think it's important to keep in mind that the people who cry about "big gubment" coming in and stamping on your rights are also now arguing that the president should be able to do whatever they whenever they want, and can never face legal consequences from that.
@TheRogueWolf 3 ай бұрын
It's because to those people, "big gubment" is only a problem when it affects _them._ They want "daddy Fed" to make those _other_ people live how they want.
@seankrake4776 3 ай бұрын
they don't like big government,[in trump voice] they like the biggest government that has ever existed, you know other governments wish they could be that big, but no, he is the biggest government that has ever existed.
@dense_and_dull 3 ай бұрын
They're not intelligent. It is a well documented phenomenon. It is exactly what I expect from individuals who are easily susceptible to conspiracy theories and hoaxes.
@deykuzor 3 ай бұрын
Because it's not about rights, it's about rights that put "THOSE PEOPLE" in their "Rightful Place". It's a bigotry issue at its core that has managed to reach beyond bigots by preying upon moderates with half truths.
@GaganSingh-nx2yv 3 ай бұрын
They are only against big government when it helps the poor and minorities.
@stephbenson7340 3 ай бұрын
It gives the game away that these goons don't have a case, that one of Trump's representatives argued "he shouldn't be convicted by this impeachment because you can prosecute him now" and now his lawyer is saying "you can't prosecute him because he wasn't convicted at impeachment".
@binnad7091 3 ай бұрын
The part that fascinates me is this: *He claims his indictments are a political attack from the Biden administration *He also claims that presidents can do whatever they want *He ALSO claims he's immune because he was president -- so WHY would Biden prosecute him rather than have him "disappeared"?
@WJS774 3 ай бұрын
Who exactly do you think Trump had "disappeared"? When you make absurd comparisons, you shouldn't be surprised that you get absurd answers.
@InfiniteDeckhand 3 ай бұрын
@@WJS774 Way to miss the whole point.
@TheGrumbliestPuppy 3 ай бұрын
@@WJS774 ...What? The comment you're replying to is saying "if Trump is claiming a president can break any laws with no punishment, then why would Biden prosecute him instead of just executing him?"
@dragonflye4561 3 ай бұрын
@@WJS774 Jeffrey Epstein . i know he was not disappeared but come on look at it he had him offed
@Rugelacharugula 3 ай бұрын
@@WJS774take your own advice.
@tomlawrence1335 3 ай бұрын
The fact we even had to debate this question shows how far we have fallen.
@joonasmukala8208 3 ай бұрын
Not pretty from outside view
@LBCAndrew 3 ай бұрын
The fact you think he doesn't have immunity shows how stupid people actually are. The President is given immunity from prosecution for actions taken fulfilling their role as President so they can make tough decisions without idiots dragging him into court the moment he's out of office. The legal remedy for illegal actions taken by a president is IMPEACHMENT. Which in this case had already been done and he was acquitted by the Senate. If this wasn't the case, then when will we be seeing first degree murder charges on Barack Obama for the murder of two US citizens in 2011. Anwar Al Awlaki and his teenage son were killed at the direct order Obama, via a hellfire missile fired from a predator drone. Obama made a public statement admitting to the killing. It's a slam dunk win.
@thorodinson3597 3 ай бұрын
Just be happy the majority questioned it so ferociously. We didn't let the vocal minority get away with obvious extremist ideology based terror & laws. Other empires, commonwealths, and nations have collapsed under far less political pressure, from far less cultists/beliebers /ideological-simpltons/etc..., and some before the debate could even occur.
@tomlawrence1335 3 ай бұрын
@thorodinson3597 The majority never questioned it, most of us already knew none of them are above the law. Our founding fathers were pretty adamant about not wanting a king. The only ones that questioned it were the ones claiming he had immunity to do what ever he wanted.
@tomlawrence1335 3 ай бұрын
@joonasmukala8208 I bet not, the rational and sane among us have no idea what's going wrong here besides russian influence. It's like half the country just forgot 200 years of our history and will do whatever they are told without questioning it, even if it means abandoning our allies and everything we have stood for.
@boondoggle4820 3 ай бұрын
Trump is like one big walking, talking stress test for the entire legal and political system of this country.
@LeonardTavast 3 ай бұрын
Not only the country. America's allies are severely stressed about his disruptive behavior.
@scootergirl3662 3 ай бұрын
The amount of people I see on social media screaming about freedom and then defending trump for acting like a 1700s king is the darkest irony there is.
@stingerjohnny9951 3 ай бұрын
MAGArs and Trumpites: FREEDOM Me: You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
@eldibs 3 ай бұрын
The Republican party is stuck in a Prisoner's Dilemma - They could be rid of Trump and free of him if they cooperated and decided to be rid of him. However, they can't trust each other to not turn on the rest of them and support Trump for cheap political points, so they all default to supporting them. They can't trust each other. As an aside, one day I hope my Windsor knot is as good and consistent as Devin's. I'm practicing though!
@WyvernYT 3 ай бұрын
Did you see his tailor sponsor? Those are nice suits; I hope I remember to try them the next time I need some new suits.
@chanterelle483 3 ай бұрын
Or, you know, they could be brave and take a stand for justice no matter the price they'll pay for it. Since they are all about that traditional morality and stuff.
@cristyablad 3 ай бұрын
Let me be clear: I don't really support Mitt Romney, but I present this to demonstrate your comment. Around the very beginning of this debacle, he was one of the very few Republicans that did support 'hearing evidence' on Trump. He didn't say he wanted Trump impeached or anything explicitly anti-Trump, but rather that if a trial was going to happen, which he rationally thought it was (and it did) that all evidence should be presented. For that alone he was viewed as a dissenter to the Republican party. They wanted him not only to be kicked out of the party but also to be fined, legally penalized, stripped of office, and some Republicans wanted harsher punishments still. For saying he agreed that evidence should be heard. People were often gathered outside of his house. I don't know if he received personal threats, but I would feel it isn't outlandish to think so. I would love it if other Republicans were able to take a stand within their party about corruption within their party. But I believe your comment to be spot on. Because of all the threats which came from something as routine as agreeing to hear evidence they would either have to have literally nothing to lose or just off-the-scale chutzpah.
@rickchatham4333 3 ай бұрын
It literally came down to, what, 10 Republican senators standing up and saying, "Yeah he's guilty" and we would have been done with all this.
@WyvernYT 3 ай бұрын
@@chanterelle483 Liz Cheney stood on conservative principles, and got formally kicked out of the GOP for it. That's a lesson to any other Republican who's tempted to have principles.
@newflesh666 3 ай бұрын
it sure would be nice if powerful people were held to the same legal standards as the common man...
@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 3 ай бұрын
What a nice world would be if Fauci faces the consequences of lying under oath to the Congress.
@cynthiacrescent 3 ай бұрын
Never have been never will be. The country was predicated upon changing who made up the ruling class, never has been about justice or democracy.
@thunderb00m 3 ай бұрын
You only get as much justice as you pay for. Rich don't live by the same standards as the rest of us. Its really messed up but its the reality. So go vote to try and change it, even if chance of actual change is miniscule.
@StellarBoBellar 3 ай бұрын
@@thunderb00mvoting doesn't help much when republicans engage in mass scale voter suppression and gerrymandering. Democrats seem to bend over backwards to compromise with Republicans. We don't have a two party system.
@exeggcutertimur6091 3 ай бұрын
vote in primaries, too. Thats the real election, often.
@mastercadillactus 3 ай бұрын
That we have to specify WHICH criminal investigation we're referring to when discussing Trump without batting an eye really shows how far the office has fallen.
@kubaGR8 3 ай бұрын
Best part is, even if he goes to prison, he can still run for president WHILE INCARCERATED.
@Blokewood3 3 ай бұрын
The average president gets charged with two felonies. Before trump, the average was zero.
@lukasg4807 3 ай бұрын
@@Blokewood3the majority are pretty goofy
@TheGrumbliestPuppy 3 ай бұрын
@@lukasg4807 I don't think we can really judge how credible they are until they go to trial. The media from both sides spins this stuff so hard that you can't really believe what anyone has to say about it, but in court only evidence talks.
@lyndsaybrown8471 3 ай бұрын
Not the office, just him.
@christfriedrodeyns5300 3 ай бұрын
I live in Europe. And I am stunned by the idea that you can be candidate for president even when you have legal cases against you or when you in jail.
@Maladjester 3 ай бұрын
Disclaimer, I have no formal legal knowledge. Seems to me it would be possible to derail an election by throwing a frivolous lawsuit on the other guy at the last second. Your opponent won the vote but, oh look, there's "a legal case against him." He's ineligible. That means you win! Except he also would have done it to you. Complete clusterfuck.
@blakekaveny 3 ай бұрын
You have to be allowed to run when you have legal cases going on. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
@michaelgreenwood3413 3 ай бұрын
@@blakekavenyWhich he has. Repeatedly.
@lolilollolilol7773 3 ай бұрын
@@blakekaveny This holds only before he is convicted. He has been convicted, meaning he is guilty. The fact that he is appealing doesn't make him 'innocent until proven guilty". It makes him guilty of rape until that conviction is reverted. That's how the law works.
@blakekaveny 3 ай бұрын
@@lolilollolilol7773 That was a civil case not criminal. So it’s not the same thing. If it were criminal he’d be in prison.
@MartyWoodcock 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion, anyone who represents the law in any fassion must be held at a much greater level of accountability than regular citizens. This includes but is not limited to; law inforcement, lawyers, politiciens and heads of state. (The last one is redondant because that position must be held at the most accountable of them all).
@geoffsmith82 3 ай бұрын
Yet all those sorts of people listed get various forms of immunity!
@jlev1028 3 ай бұрын
That's not an opinion, that's a matter of fact.
@iceofwolf 3 ай бұрын
That this has gone so far is amazing and terrifying. "Don't convict him during impeachment, go after him when he's not president" followed by, "you can't go after me because you didn't convict me during impeachment." And during the impeachment, there were so many "it's not an actual court of law" excuses to blow off the whole thing, but now they're trying to treat it as one.
@bobbolan4672 3 ай бұрын
Hypocrisy has become a way of life for the GOP.
@joonasmukala8208 3 ай бұрын
Not USA citizen. But he would probably be already In jail over here. If anything probably treason
@guadalupeestrada410 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like we are in a toxic relationship with the former president tbh, feels like Trump and his followers are using narcissistic tactics to avoid any and all forms of accountability
@LBCAndrew 3 ай бұрын
He wasn't convicted during impeachment because he didn't commit a crime.
@znail4675 3 ай бұрын
@@joonasmukala8208In most modern nations so are politicians held to a higher standard rather then the reverse.
@ianrastoski3346 3 ай бұрын
I'm starting to realize how terrible our system is. These nearly 250 years we rrally have been operating on the honor system.
@warlordofbritannia 3 ай бұрын
All forms of government ultimately reside on that. Even authoritarian regimes take it for granted that the people are cowed enough not to try anything and the dictator's right hand men are truly loyal
@nathanharvey8570 3 ай бұрын
Laws don't enforce themselves, everything runs to some degree on norms and traditions. It's the kind of thing that you don't think about, because it's always surrounded you, until enough momentum against those prevailing norms builds up.
@rickb.4168 3 ай бұрын
We don’t have this problem in Britain… 😂
@snowingwolves606 3 ай бұрын
@@rickb.4168 is your favorite pastime making fun of everything wrong in America over there?
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
@@snowingwolves606 To be fair my favorite thing to do is to make fun of everything they do over there, I mean brexit? Come on!
@Wingsaber 3 ай бұрын
For people who worship the founding fathers so much and their intentions for the country as laid out in the constitution, they really seem to love having a monarch-like figure above the law...
@brooklyn5755 3 ай бұрын
This is such an underrated comment
@dolly_gwendolyn 3 ай бұрын
And they are certainly stuck in that time period as well with their ideas
@Tranchelevent Ай бұрын
Genuine question; which specific leaders or ideologies from the late 18th and early 19th centuries do you deride less?
@SonofStormblessed 3 ай бұрын
If the supreme Court overrules this, then it's time for the supreme Court to be completely gone. NOBODY EVER should be immune from any criminal acts. Nobody is supposed to be above the law in the United States. You can't say that you care about the country, and that you support the country while also supporting king-like rule.
@LilJbm1 3 ай бұрын
Hunter Biden? Joe Biden? Hillary Clinton? All our politicians act like they are above the law. You want to abolish our systems I want them to work as intended.
@Alblaka 3 ай бұрын
If the Supreme Court were to overrule this, and thus underline that a president can assassinate whoever they want with no criminal repercussions, it would be a rather bloody, but kharmic, irony for Biden to promptly 'remove' all supreme court members until (including new members) rule that maybe that's not a power the president should hold.
@cristyablad 3 ай бұрын
Until semi-recently I thought the Judicial System was perhaps the last branch of government that wasn't totally broken. That has very much changed for me, and I feel very discouraged by it.
@agm65ccip 3 ай бұрын
Agree, nobody should be above the law, but when the DOJ releases a report that he sitting president has indeed broken the law by mishandling classified documents and that his ghostwriter should have known classified material was being leaked but declines to prosecute that doesn’t hold a high bar for fair ness or willingness to take the first hit
@WJS774 3 ай бұрын
So when will you be calling for Obama to be arrested? All the talk of this hypothetical "having seal team 6 assassinate people", Obama _actually did that._ He didn't get charged because of presidential immunity. You want to see presidential immunity go away? You won't like where that goes.
@andiralosh2173 3 ай бұрын
How are we going to commit all these crimes and retire without immunity? -- every president, apparently
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx 3 ай бұрын
Power corrupts...
@pdcdesign9632 3 ай бұрын
No, just the most corrupt one.
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
@@pdcdesign9632 So basically every Republican candidate ever from here on out. Assuming the party doesn't get disbanded first which it really should be.
@warlordofbritannia 3 ай бұрын
Except no President before Trump tried this novel legal strategy-even Nixon made sure Ford would pardon him
@noakinn 3 ай бұрын
@@youdontneedtoknow7548Arguably it started with Reagan
@troubadour723 3 ай бұрын
One positive from the Trump era is the definitive illustration of whether our entire legal system has any credibility or not.
@exeggcutertimur6091 3 ай бұрын
He's done a very good job of showing how bad the corruption currently is. He might not be draining the swamping, but at least showing who lives in it!
@charlieangkor8649 3 ай бұрын
I feel ▇▇▇▇▇ towards the US legal system. I feel ▇▇▇▇▇ towards the US government.
@lasagnahog7695 3 ай бұрын
Yup, that's always been his silver lining. He's forcing many of us (americans) to actually confront the state of our union. If he becomes president again it turns out that the system has been irrevocably destroyed. Right now is a weird time because either the system is in the process of collapsing or not and we won't know for most of a year.
@BatkoNashBandera774 3 ай бұрын
@OP I'm from the future: it doesn't.
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
@@BatkoNashBandera774 I'm from the present : it never did.
@altortugas5979 3 ай бұрын
I can’t, even having to have this conversation is too heartbreaking.
@TheFreeBro 3 ай бұрын
Then figure out how to register to vote and vote!
@Brasswatchman 3 ай бұрын
Meh. It's like hearing the mathematical proof for a problem you've known the answer to since day 1.
@viscountslappy5085 3 ай бұрын
"when we all have access to the same information, its easier to bridge the gap" except that one party/preference will see the facts and data - indisputable though they may be - and still cry foul because they think everything they disagree with is a conspiracy.
@user-eo3bm9sg7n 3 ай бұрын
The fact that anyone would even entertain giving one man the ability to commit any crime he so chooses with no reprocussions is ridiculous beyond belief.
@Xfhcgnjffhjmjvfg 3 ай бұрын
"Poorly educated"
@grimcatnip 3 ай бұрын
i honestly think Trump watched Lethal Weapon. And saw how the bad guy was like "you can't do anything to me. I have diplomatic immunity."
@ChrisCaramia 3 ай бұрын
He must've stopped watching just before Murtaugh revoked said immunity.
@Maladjester 3 ай бұрын
Getting my nerd point for the day: In the Star Wars universe, this is how Hutts think. "He who can, may" is their entire moral philosophy. Laws are for beings too weak to take what they want, thus the Hutts regard laws as convenient shields at best, trivial obstacles at worst.
@chriswarr641 3 ай бұрын
@@MaladjesterIn a sense they are not wrong. if the only punishment for breaking a law is a fine then for a set of rich individuals that law is more like a suggestion that has a cost for not following. If they can make more money by ignoring that law and paying the fine then they will...
@schris3 3 ай бұрын
Nixon would have been dragged to hell if he tried to pull the presidential immunity crap himself. Is nauseating that Trump is receiving some sort of preferential treatment.
@MS-jp3op 3 ай бұрын
It's almost like being president doesn't make you godking, weird...
@BaronSengir1008 3 ай бұрын
The President isn't Leto II...
@Xeonerable 3 ай бұрын
It's just crazy to me that this is even a discussion. Nobody should be above the law.
@9eIcee4Ws9Xnq8POvmVT 3 ай бұрын
hey hey buddy, if trump isn't above the law then nethier is biden or any other previous president.
@Joppi1992 3 ай бұрын
Whenever Trump is active in the news, South Park receives years of content for free.
@kahn04 3 ай бұрын
And every other form of comedy really
@itsd0nk 3 ай бұрын
It actually makes writing comedy really difficult when the actual person is crazier than the exaggerated comedy you wrote for them.
@Joppi1992 3 ай бұрын
@@itsd0nk Needing to try harder isn't a bad thing though. It's what often tends to lead to better results.
@davidchristie6003 3 ай бұрын
There is a character in the UK tv show Ghosts that is a scandal ridden, privileged 1980s politician who died from drugs during an affair with his secretary. Basically an extreme caricature of the worst right wing politicians in the UK. Then Boris Johnson was elected Prime minister (tbf after a couple years of political chaos) and ushered in years of scandal, shame and other ridiculous characters disguised as politicians. A team of talented comedy writers could no longer outdo the government. Sadly it had real consequences and it makes the character a lot less funny now, more an infuriating reminder
@SimuLord 3 ай бұрын
As Jon Bois pointed out (see episode 7 of "The History of the Atlanta Falcons"), you can't make a joke about a joke, because everyone already knows the punchline and you've got nothing to riff on. (his example was the "hamberders" Deal or No Deal parody Saturday Night Live attempted that fell flat.)
@86fifty 3 ай бұрын
The third part of the argument puts me in mind of a 12 year old tryna explain that since he got sent to the principal's office and got detention, he can't ALSO have his Xbox taken away at home because that's "double jeopardy" because that's two punishments for the same action. Like, honey no... Two different bodies CAN impose two different punishments.
@Night_Hawk_475 3 ай бұрын
In the opening audio clip, I think a key part to highlight was that the judges question specifically said "if he was not impeached", and the lawyer responded "[yes, but only] if he was impeached" which is why the judge simplified his answer to "no", since other than the actual word "yes" everything else he said definitely meant "no". It'd be like if your car broke down and you asked me if I could come give you a ride with my car, and I responded "if I can drive your car to do it with". the fact I responded in the positive doesn't change the fact that the actual answer is definitely a no.
@LollipopKnight2 3 ай бұрын
The judge did an excellent job of cutting through the BS, aye.
@WJS774 3 ай бұрын
@@LollipopKnight2 The judge asked an absurd question. Any president who would do that would be impeached. Asking insane trick questions is what lawyers are supposed to do, not judges. Good on Trump's lawyer for not falling for the trick.
@ericdculver 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the logical fallacy! I feel like so many people think "If P, then Q" is the same as "If not P, then not Q" when they are not.
@seankrake4776 3 ай бұрын
I love when people use logical terms to show fallacious arguments.
@RepChris 3 ай бұрын
yup, a material conditional does not imply its own converse, but it does imply its contraposition. If P then Q =||= if not Q, then not P
@christiangibbs8534 3 ай бұрын
This should have never been a question, and definitely should not have been reviewed in court. The only reasonable action for SCOTUS to take is to reject this appeal without review or comment. The very notion of absolute presidential immunity is an affront to everything that the U.S. Constitution stands for and everything that the founding fathers fought and died for.
@UpYourArsenal 3 ай бұрын
Mayhaps you don't actually understand the Founding Father's intent at all, if you think prosecuting Trump for not committing crimes is a legitimate plan.
@RHCole 3 ай бұрын
@@UpYourArsenalTrump has done many crimes on and off camera.
@SatansSimgma 3 ай бұрын
How do you feed yourself?@@UpYourArsenal
@JasonBoyce 3 ай бұрын
The issue here, as plain as it may be, is that the question has never been asked before. Ford helped Nixon dodge that bullet by pardoning him in advance, which led *directly* to Trump doing this, as Trump was friends with Nixon and took away the lesson that the President was above the law. Had Ford allowed Nixon to face accountability, we would likely not be in this position at all. Now, the DC Circuit got this answer right, and it is an excellent opinion. But it is a landmark ruling that clarifies directly what the judiciary can do regarding the executive, and so it’s likely SCOTUS will take the case up so that they can make this ruling themselves.
@UpYourArsenal 3 ай бұрын
@@SatansSimgma My brain works, and unlike you I use it instead of just parroting lies told to me by handlers.
@chrise8275 3 ай бұрын
Trump’s lawyers are the type of lawyers to talk their clients down from a speeding ticket to the death penalty.
@GregPrice-ep2dk 3 ай бұрын
By claiming immunity for the Insurrection as an "official act", isn't that a direct admission that he DID intend to incite an insurrection? Can that be used by Jack Smith, the state of GA, et al?
@thecharlieramirez 3 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics these people have to perform to defend the former president are astounding.
@titaneum9243 3 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics these people have to perform to defend president Bidens own ongoing crimes are astounding
@UpYourArsenal 3 ай бұрын
The only gymnastics involved are the media continuing to feed you lies and believe their fake b.s. about Trump. Name a crime - name a single time the media didn't lie to you (oh wait, you can't - you believed every word they said)
@harvbegal6868 3 ай бұрын
Gold medal level Olympic gymnastics.
@haxie4516 3 ай бұрын
@@titaneum9243 What crimes?
@haxie4516 3 ай бұрын
@@UpYourArsenal So you haven't checked the indictments? Well, to start with the ones that have been proven in court: He's a rapist. He's a sexual abuser. He committed many counts of Tax fraud. He violates the civil rights act. He's a racist. Etc etc. Then there's the many indictments, so there's conspiracy to defraud the United States, there's Obstructing an official proceeding, there's conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, there's conspiracy against rights, there's 30+ counts of violating the espionage act, there's perjury, there's evidence tampering, there's witness tampering, there's conspiracy to obstruct justice, there's withholding documents & records, there's 30+ felony counts of falsifying business records, And then there's the indictments that came in Georgia, and then any others in other states for his election interference...
@verdebusterAP 3 ай бұрын
God forbid , we actually hold someone accountable by law
@Desertphile 3 ай бұрын
It apparently depends on political party when it comes to being punished for crimes.
@RunTheEmpire 3 ай бұрын
@@Desertphileor it’s like one political party likes to break the law more than the other
@UpYourArsenal 3 ай бұрын
Accountable for what? How about your Democrat friends, intend to ever hold them accountable for *actual* crimes and violence as opposed to the fake crimes and fake violence the media blames on Trump?
@arshdeepchauhan4275 3 ай бұрын
@@RunTheEmpire yes, and unfortunately they are in charge right now
@RunTheEmpire 3 ай бұрын
@@arshdeepchauhan4275 indictments and prosecutions say otherwise
@kikaku2501 3 ай бұрын
The fact that "on bonk" is a legal term explains why judges have gavels.
@Maladjester 3 ай бұрын
Was listening rather than watching. When I heard "on bonk," I imagined a legal defense consisting of chasing the opposition around the courtroom with a club, trying to bonk them, the whole thing happening at high speed while "Yakety Sax" played.
@MaybeAnnatar 3 ай бұрын
So, his argument was that he had to be impeached and indicted to be prosecuted but that if he was impeached and or indicted prosecution is double jeopardy? His argument is "I couldn't be prosecuted unless I could be then if I could be I couldn't be."
@mauricemusician7636 3 ай бұрын
During impeachment "I can't be impeached because I haven't been found guilty in court." During trial "I can't be found guilty because I haven't been impeached."
@margaretwordnerd5210 3 ай бұрын
Well said. I'm waiting for Dolt 45 to try the Sovereign Citizen defense, but with the qualifier that only a true sovereign like himself can claim unlimited rights and no responsibility.
@rakshithanand8262 3 ай бұрын
Now, I'm no Trump fan and think that he should very much be tried, but you ARE misrepresenting his statement. What he says is not that indicted prosecution is double jeopardy. Rather, he is framing a prosecution WITHOUT an impeachment conviction as double jeopardy that the impeachment clause specifically works around by explicitly stating that a convicted official is open to prosecution.
@haxie4516 3 ай бұрын
@@rakshithanand8262 What? That makes even less sense. It can't be double jeopardy if it's not been in court before...
@BogeyTheBear 3 ай бұрын
Same circular logic of Catch 22: Only a crazy man loves to kill, so the fact you hate to fight in a war proves your sanity and your Section 8 claim is hereby dismissed.
@olympic-gradelurker 3 ай бұрын
The fact that we're able to even argue the legality of assassinating political rivals is ludicrous in and of itself.
@Ironcorgi2 3 ай бұрын
Ya it really sets up a bad precedent just discussing it. The fact it doesn’t get condemned by half the electorate is disturbing.
@charlieangkor8649 3 ай бұрын
I am writing off United States as a lost case.
@jeffc2630 3 ай бұрын
Keep talking !
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
@@charlieangkor8649 What took you so long?
@robertclarahan2766 3 ай бұрын
The legally of it was not being argued, the method of conviction was being discussed albeit incorrectly
@dlp1750 3 ай бұрын
We are very close to the point where this whole mess ceases to be a question of law and becomes a question of politics..., if we're not there already. If that weren't frightening enough, the bigger issue is there's a large, vocal, and highly loyal swath of U.S. voters who just don't care.
@albea1695 3 ай бұрын
Thank God you're the lawyer. The bureaucracy and legal jargon that, not only do you have to search-out and find in all of those documents to help state your case, but then decipher their meaning.... Woof... Lawyers deserve their pay. 🤙
@michaelcoward1902 3 ай бұрын
By claiming immunity...isn't he basically admitting to it?
@ArDeeMee 3 ай бұрын
Yes.
@jdotoz 3 ай бұрын
No, that's not how it works. He's claiming that the matter can't even be tried, guilty or not.
@warlordofbritannia 3 ай бұрын
Tacitly, yes. Legally no.
@dolfuny 3 ай бұрын
Not necessarily
@kylenguyen7371 3 ай бұрын
What warlordofbritannia said. He is implicating himself as guilty in the court of public opinion, while also claiming that it can't be proven in a court of law because of said immunity; ergo, he must be presumed innocent at a legal level, even if we have substantial evidence to demonstrate/prove his guilt.
@daveetcetera7952 3 ай бұрын
You know at least 3 of the conservative judges will dissent or abstain from striking down this insane immunity argument.
@warlordofbritannia 3 ай бұрын
Ironically, not the ones he appointed though
@sotek2784 3 ай бұрын
All they have to do is not get involved and it stays struck down - they don't have to take his appeal up.
@johndoe6032 3 ай бұрын
Trump doesn't care what they say. All he cares about is WHEN they say it... preferably after November or as close to it as possible. And then he probably just hopes he'll die before anyone else can eventually prosecute him after another term in office.
@L3x4Pr0ne 3 ай бұрын
@@sotek2784the issue I have with that is that they SHOULD. This should be upheld by the highest court in our nation, so there is no more question. If they abstain and it stays lower, someone will always argue otherwise. I could never see the USSC upholding this though. By that logic, one of the strongest powers in the US would then be weakened, ruining one of the fundamental balance of powers. That is to say, trump could order the assassination of one or more of the judges he disagrees with and say he’s acting in the best interest of the nation. That is literally a dictatorship.
@sciencenate 3 ай бұрын
They won’t - they already were gifted lifelong power - PROVIDED America doesn’t drastically have its government changed, they have lifelong power and money.
@nassirahmad4873 2 ай бұрын
The idea that anyone is America is above the law is absurd. We elect a President, not a king or dictator.
@queercandy1 2 ай бұрын
i love that the argument isn't even about whether or not he violated the law. it's about whether or not he's above the law. love that, love this country
@brainstewX 2 ай бұрын
Trump has argued both many times
@nonsuch9301 3 ай бұрын
To anyone from Seal Team Six who maybe reading this. There have been soldiers in the past who tried to use the argument they were only following orders. It didn't go well for them, something to keep in mind.
@Redactedlllllllllllll 3 ай бұрын
Who is going to punish the seal team? A bunch of overweight guys who've not run a lap in 15 years?
@JargonMadjin 3 ай бұрын
@@Redactedlllllllllllll Resisting arrest will just make it worse
@wta1518 3 ай бұрын
@@Redactedlllllllllllll Seal Team 7.
@paulcruz168 3 ай бұрын
@@Redactedlllllllllllllthe units that don't need ghostwriters I guess
@robertclarahan2766 3 ай бұрын
Thinking trump would actually order them to do an assassination on a political rival is hilariously stupid
@Phoenix_flying 3 ай бұрын
I don’t EVER want to hear Trump’s attorney talk again. It’s like nails on a chalkboard.
@jessice293 3 ай бұрын
He voice is awful! I avoided all those legal proceedings because his voice made me agitated lol
@frostyrobot7689 3 ай бұрын
He sounds like a malfunctioning Cylon.
@pearlimagines1040 3 ай бұрын
He sounds AI generated lol
@LBCAndrew 3 ай бұрын
Then stop threating every attorney in the country with disbarment, firing from lawfirms, etc who takes him as a client.
@KingBobXVI 3 ай бұрын
He sounds almost exactly like Robert Kennedy Jr.
@kingjgamer5977 3 ай бұрын
Wait, Biden's full name is Joseph R Biden? Man, I feel dumb for not knowing that...
@VoteByGaming 3 ай бұрын
Don't feel bad. I got that same question from our election staff, including the "Jr." suffix on his name on the ballot.
@falcolf 3 ай бұрын
I did not know that and I shall now forget that I ever did.
@bramverhees755 3 ай бұрын
How the hell were people even wondering about this? What a country…
@dielaughing73 3 ай бұрын
It's really inflammatory
@BeardyBaldyBob 3 ай бұрын
It annoyed me beyond belief that the judge kept letting the lawyer re-frame the question before answering his different version of it. She should have been MUCH stricter and ORDERING him to answer the question she was ACTUALLY asking.
@andrewharrison8436 3 ай бұрын
It would be nice to think that this was just a judicial tactic to reveal how much of a slime he was.
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but that's the case with interviews or legal proceedings or whatever. You ask somebody to answer a yes or no question and they just talk for hours without saying yes or no if you let them.
@skeetsmcgrew3282 3 ай бұрын
@@youdontneedtoknow7548 So you say "Answer yes or no or be removed from court until you can come up with an answer." They have that power
@jackprice4959 3 ай бұрын
I'm looking for my middle school teacher to let her know that checks-and-balances crap wasn't true.
@themanhimself3 3 ай бұрын
Get the math teacher too. "You won't have a calculator in your pocket in real life."
@basilmcdonnell9807 3 ай бұрын
Not that it wasn't true so much as in the end it didn't work.
@christianseibold3369 3 ай бұрын
It *is* working. What's happening now *is* our Checks and Balances system working. When the Supreme Court Justices decide that presidents don't have immunity (which they *will* do), that is a victory for our Checks and Balances system. So what the hell are you talking about?
@JebeckyGranjola 3 ай бұрын
@christianseibold3369 Is there any way to delay it? It's weird that Devin argued that they might "want to have final say on it", when this ruling was explicitly because they declined to hear it. My opinion is that they know they can't say the president is immune, but they don't want to say No to Trump. So they would rather not decide anything and hope that he will win the election and pardon himself.
@themanhimself3 3 ай бұрын
@@JebeckyGranjola Hopefully the 91 felonies will take care of him before that.
@Marychelle 3 ай бұрын
I love sending these videos to people. They’re great. Thank you.
@statisticallysound 3 ай бұрын
Starting to think this Trump guy’s highest priority isn’t upholding the Constitution
@Kanner111 3 ай бұрын
It's like playing Monopoly with nine year olds who try to make up a new rule anytime they're losing. (Quite aside from anything else, it's very funny to watch people from the party that went relentlessly hard for *years* on Bill Clinton, trying to find anything at all, have to try to make arguments about how the presidency is, like, *super* important and can't possibly be distracted by little things like law suits and constitutionality.)
@jfantis 3 ай бұрын
Like when they bring endless lawfare against their primary political rival after 234 years of precedent.
@WyvernYT 3 ай бұрын
I hope you try repeating their position back to them like that. "So, no matter what evidence we might find, there's no prosecuting Clinton or Obama for anything they did...?"
@Maladjester 3 ай бұрын
When YOU do it, it's patriotism. When THEY do it, it's treason. Everybody just wants Their Guy™. By any means, at any cost, with precisely zero regard for legal realities or moral arguments. EDIT: Side note, my favorite house rule in Monopoly is you can do anything you can get away with. Other players look away, snatch a $500, or sneak a third house onto that property. Creates a wonderful paranoia.
@WJS774 3 ай бұрын
@@WyvernYT You expect consistency from these people? Of course, they _know_ that the leftist controlled establishment will only ever go after conservatives. They didn't do this to Obama.
@OmynysFence 3 ай бұрын
Man, i hope your channel is experiencing significant growth from all of these Trump legal cases. Not enough people are well enough informed about these processes, and you do a very good job at presenting these facts without any considerable political slant. Godspeed to you and your whole team. Keep up the fantastic work.
@venomsjunkmail 2 ай бұрын
SCOTUS: Hold our bribe money, bro.
@stevenneiman1554 3 ай бұрын
I could sort of get the idea of presidents having a stay of arrest and judgement for their term of office (otherwise ACTUAL witch-hunt tactics could be used to eat up their time and keep them from effectively performing their duties as president), but the idea of true immunity is completely unhinged.
@tara2944 3 ай бұрын
Imagine the president making a joke about getting away with shooting someone in a busy street and people finding that funny. I'm really worried about those people. What a country we live in
@MDNyx 3 ай бұрын
it’s literally homelander but old
@TheEXGamemaster 3 ай бұрын
@@MDNyx EXACTLY!
@geoffok 3 ай бұрын
Cultists
@LBCAndrew 3 ай бұрын
Biden was joking about murdering Americans with F16's just a week ago.
@Sercotani 3 ай бұрын
@@MDNyxwould love if they actually write a scene like that for Homelander in the new season. Watch as the point totally goes over some people's heads anyway 😂
@jtcmk 3 ай бұрын
the fact we need to have this conversation, in AMERICA, is beyond me.
@ypp0p 3 ай бұрын
This is what the system is designed to do. It has always been set up for the benefit of the rich and powerful at everyone else's expense.
@LBCAndrew 3 ай бұрын
And that's the problem. It's beyond most people because they are inherently stupid and only listen to viewpoints they agree with. The President is given immunity from prosecution for actions taken fulfilling their role as President so they can make tough decisions without idiots dragging him into court the moment he's out of office. The legal remedy for illegal actions taken by a president is IMPEACHMENT. Which in this case had already been done and he was acquitted by the Senate. If this wasn't the case, then when will we be seeing first degree murder charges on Barack Obama for the murder of two US citizens in 2011. Anwar Al Awlaki and his teenage son were killed at the direct order Obama, via a hellfire missile fired from a predator drone. Obama made a public statement admitting to the killing. It's a slam dunk win.
@purplelibraryguy8729 3 ай бұрын
On the double jeopardy, surely there's an even stronger point to be made: The constitutional impeachment language SPECIFICALLY SAYS IT'S OK! It goes out of its way to note that someone successfully impeached can still be criminally charged for the crimes they were impeached for. Why would that be different just because the impeachment was unsuccessful?
@DBRising 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Impeachment is a political process. Civil and criminal litigation stand on their own as respective legal matters.
@amytprincessamygaming6022 3 ай бұрын
Republicans and Trump supporters should be asked the same question but using Biden’s name instead. Guarantee they will say he should be banned from running for office & because jailed for treason but since Trump did it, Trump should have immunity. Double standard.
@supernenechi 3 ай бұрын
It's incredible, isn't it? The first time in the entire history that we have to answer the question "is the president immune from treason?" is now, because what sort of president let's a rally storm the capitol? What a time!
@watchm4ker 3 ай бұрын
Not quite. It actually goes back to an earlier point in English law: Can the King be tried for Treason? In the wake of the English Civil Wars against Charles I, he was arrested, and put on a trial by the House of Commons. The problem was, the definition of 'Treason' at that time was threats or harm against *the King.* There was barely any concept of a King being subject to any law, let alone insurrection against his own government. It was a farce of a trial, but the principle it established stands today: The King was bound by the decisions of Parliament, and could not take up arms to depose it. And this was over a century before the American Revolution, let alone the subsequent revolutions in France and elsewhere.
@supernenechi 3 ай бұрын
@@watchm4ker History sure is fascinating! Thanks for telling more.
@watchm4ker 3 ай бұрын
@@supernenechi What's funny about it is, this may have been the key factor in why the British Crown *survived* the 19th and 20th centuries. As weak monarchs, they weren't held liable for the ills and misfortunes of Britain the way the French, German, or Russian crowns would be. The blame was focussed on Parliament, and an election would take care of that.
@TincMetals 3 ай бұрын
Only treason is your patient puppet pres. lol
@user-fd1tq4il6n 3 ай бұрын
Biden is literally immune from treason lol they keep trying to throw the book at Trump cause he's a political enemy.
@girlintraining 3 ай бұрын
I suppose we still can't talk about the elephant in the room which is a significant chunk of the population doesn't believe in a rule of law society and apparently insurrection earns you less time in jail than being declared depressed by your doctor and put on a hold. So yeah, it's more of a crime to say you're sad than that you want to end the government apparently... I'm sure there are no consequences to this. Forgive and forget right?
@stevelarry3870 3 ай бұрын
Being depressed isn’t a crime and doesn’t have any jail sentence attached.
@prismpyre7653 3 ай бұрын
correct. a third of the population at *least* are basically nazis. and that's true everywhere in the world, alas
@renatatostada3318 3 ай бұрын
Mate wtf are you on about???? Im gonna go out on a limb and say no one has ever been imprisoned just for being depressed
@tfkdandsvkc 3 ай бұрын
@@stevelarry3870 that wasnt the point the op was talking about how insurrection is not taken as serious offence and that his followers dont even know or respect the rule of law so many volatile people lacking in not understanding basic stuff its infuriating,,trumpism extremism has caused many people to loose their sanity,,he should have been banned from vying for breaking the law
@starbishop4916 3 ай бұрын
@@renatatostada3318 I believe they're referring when you get put on a psychiatric hold because you're considered a danger to yourself or others because of mental illness. You can be held for a significant period of time until the doctors consider you safe to be on your own/interact with society.
@blitzwinters5687 3 ай бұрын
I usually apply this to the police, but I find it's even more important here: If you're going to be an enforcer (or executor) of the law, you must also be exemplar of the law.
@DrSeuss-sf3cn 3 ай бұрын
yet Biden is doing coke in the white house as we speak
@SonsOfLorgar 3 ай бұрын
@@DrSeuss-sf3cn prove it, traitor.
@angiki9988 3 ай бұрын
"A president can only be criminally charged for a crime if impeached first, but also a criminal charge after impeachment is double jeopardy." The logic is fascinating.
@luiseneas 3 ай бұрын
How can anyone argue double jeopardy if there wasn't the first jeopardy?
@BatkoNashBandera774 3 ай бұрын
RIP Trebek
@ypw510 3 ай бұрын
They're claiming that the impeachment trial was the first part of being in jeopardy, while also claiming that criminal prosecution can only proceed upon conviction in Congress. However, the Constitution says double jeopardy is about "life or limb" - meaning proceedings with the possibility of criminal punishments. Obviously life means freedom (possibility of jail time or execution) although I'm not sure about limb since I haven't heard of chopping off anyone's hand like criminal punishments in some countries. The impeachment trial doesn't come with any criminal punishment - only removal from office.
@portmantologist 3 ай бұрын
This claim is meritless on so many levels that it's infuriating that it's even being heard by courts.
@kubaGR8 3 ай бұрын
Funny thing is, it will likely change nothing. Trump will go to prison, and he'll still run for president from prison, and people will still vote for him.
@MoneyGist 3 ай бұрын
"...in all cases EXCEPT treason, felony, and breach of peace" Sorta ends the argument right there.
@seahawk124 3 ай бұрын
6:45 Jesus!!! That's the first Cilla Black meme, I have ever seen!
@juances 3 ай бұрын
Some americans are just weird, they cry freedom and democracy but want their leader to be treated like a king with absolute power.
@necordektox879 3 ай бұрын
The Republicans are outright anti-democracy now. Look at what's happening in Ohio, they're trying to stop people from voting on abortion rights directly without their interference. They openly hate democracy.
@Redactedlllllllllllll 3 ай бұрын
Double think. But you know tribalism is trumping the ideals people pretend to have,even the founding fathers were full of shit elitists.
@ignitionfrn2223 3 ай бұрын
1:30 - Chapter 1 - How did we get here ? 7:35 - Chapter 2 - Separation of powers 10:45 - Chapter 3 - What about "functional policy considerations ?" 14:05 - Chapter 4 - The impeachment judgment clause 19:45 - Chapter 5 - What happens next 21:05 - End roll ads
@willparkin 3 ай бұрын
great but you missed the self promo that I almost closed the video because I thought it was done
@kueifengtung2693 3 ай бұрын
"tortured interpretation" is such a hardcore burn - great way to describe the defense
@nob2243 2 ай бұрын
_"...and that's why it's important to have a consistent and continuous legal strategy."_ Ooh, I love the shade being thrown here.
@Qdobafett 3 ай бұрын
I love how everyone involved with this hearing with Sauro is like exasperated trying to even make his argument make sense let alone be strong. Even Sauro sounds like he’s not even able to make his argument but knows he has to try. It’s pretty scary that any of this is even happening. Scotus should have rejected outright. What scouts doesn’t seem to understand yet is if they go with trump on these cases they will give him so much power he won’t need them for anything and they will be at risk of being replaced or lose their power. A future trump presidency could look like executive orders are just at his whim and there’s no overriding them. He could just eliminate the court.
@basilmcdonnell9807 3 ай бұрын
Risk being replaced? They risk being gunned down by Seal Team Six.
@JasonChinniansoulmod1 3 ай бұрын
Love the Cilla Black 'Surprise Surprise' 😂😂😂 hilarious 😂😂 How did you even know about that UK TV programme?
@turbokadett 3 ай бұрын
Popped down to check the comments to ensure our Cilla recieved a mention! Worra-lorra-laffs!
@hi.genevieve 2 ай бұрын
the clip of “surprise surprise” shocked me lmao 😂 i forget how funny legal eagle can be sometimes
@brentgroen3204 3 ай бұрын
If a president brings this up, it might not be someone who should be president.
@northuniverse 3 ай бұрын
✌️ I am not a crook ✌️
@brentgroen3204 3 ай бұрын
@@northuniverse ?
@mrgoober6320 3 ай бұрын
I actually miss the time when we thought Nixon or Jackson were the lowest that the presidency have ever sunk.
@macmcleod1188 3 ай бұрын
Thing is, ruling the president is immune would apply to illegal acts against disliked Supreme Court justices. It's in their self interest to rule against this level of presidential immunity
@paulastiles5507 3 ай бұрын
Yep. They are in a pickle. If they rule that Trump is not immune and can't be on the ballot, their rich and shadowy backers will be quite cross with them. But if they rule that he is immune and can be on the ballot, they're basically giving away all of their power to him if he wins in November. But even worse, they'd basically be giving away all of their power to Biden *until* November. Either way, they lose power.
@coder0xff 3 ай бұрын
Spicy
@youdontneedtoknow7548 3 ай бұрын
I mean that's not even a theory, Texas is kind of doing it right now just because they can apparently.
@paolovantassel1989 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Trump has a deeply unsettling ability to convince people to act against their own best interests. It's how he destroyed the USFL for no reason other than his own ego, and it's how he turned over a thousand random followers into an army that attempted to take over the US Capitol.
@chrisbeer5685 3 ай бұрын
Yeah until they go "If we allow the face-rating leopard to eat a few faces, surely they won't eat MY face"
@joeybaby. 3 ай бұрын
Truthfully there is something concerning your presentation that I "get it " Coming from a different discipline Your explanation clarifies confusing matters. Thank you.
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