Thanks!!! I really love fixing up these busted up instruments 🤗

Yes!!! That's awesome!

The roller is made from steel. I use yellow buffing compound to polish my dent tools to lessen the chances of scratching the metal. Also a little multi purpose grease on the tools never hurts. The tool I'm using is on bearings so the surface moves with the bell when I roll out the dents.

🤣 and it gets worse than this too!

Marching instruments have the unfortunate general run through the ringer every once on a while. It's a shame. But it's always a breath of fresh air when someone takes care of an instrument that's not their's.

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Thanks for stopping by and checking out the channel.

Thank you so much it really means a lot me. I'll definitely never stop. I live for repair!

It's a life and time saver for sure!

Thanks! Just out here showing folks the fun we techs have fixing those "uh-oh" problems.

Thanks! Glad to hear you had success with your repair!

Thanks! Glad you stopped by my channel and took some time to check out my repairs!

Thanks for the support!!! Much appreciated!

Thanks!

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

😂 that's awesome

Everything is always worth trying. It may seem overwhelming and scary but once you get into it it's really fun. With hammering brass just listen for how the hammer sounds when it hits the brass. When using a steel mandrel to work out dents the hammer will sound hollow and you can cause damage when the brass isn't contacting the mandrel but if it sounds like metal on metal you're on the right path. It's all about patience and not rushing it. Take your time and you'll be just fine. Ask any questions you want!

Thanks!

I've never been on the side of using a bell mandrel and a steel burnsiher. while these help in removing the dent they also completely thin the metal. I use this technique because it will not change the thickness of the metal therefore retaining as close to the original instruments intonation as possible. But if an instrument is completely destroyed i just use my dent machine or MDRS. But once again these techniques thin the metal.

The hammer I'm using is made out of delrin, but ABS can be used too. Honestly they're really easy to make but if you're looking for a company that makes good hammers look into Allied Supply Company or Ferres's Tools.

There's a home made option for you. Take a piece of steel stock, at least 12mm in diameter. Then find a bearing that will press fit over the steel stock, find some PVC pipe that will press fit over the bearings, the PVC should be 6 inches in length or so. One bearing lines up at one end of the pvc tube and one lines up at the other end. The steel stock should go through both bearings. Boom you got a roller! Most of my repairs are from customers looking to have their instruments fixed. But look at local pawn shop or yard sales to find cheap used instruments. Good luck!

If each moves fine on their own then the problem is the spacing between tubes. If you measured inner slide and that seems fine then focus on the outer slide. You can move the tubes by sliding the 1st tuning slide tube and main tuning slide tube (if they fit, which they usually do if ones an inner and the others and outer) to make it easier to manipulate the third slide.

If you want to anneal the brass you'll need to strip the lacquer, buff and lacquer the bell again. That would have been a lot more expensive for the customer and they only wanted the dent fixed. Yes, you could anneal the brass to work it if, and only if the brass is too hardened to move. Too many technicians jump straight to annealing, but realistically the average customer doesn't want to pay for that kind of extensive service.

You should be able to find what you're looking for in ferree's website. They make great tools and really easy to work with.

Noooo! That's a bummer, sorry to hear about that.

I don’t have the same model but that happened to me today to and I’m pissed.

That sucks! Just find a local repair tech you can trust and they'll be able to fix it up for you!

Thanks! I use a few different hammers for different situations but I mostly use delrin or steel hammers for dent work.

If the bell ring in the rim is loose and you can hear the vibrations then yes you could have that soldered again. Some bell rims are hollow and don't need soldering. But in all honesty if you're not familiar with solder work I would take your trumpet in to a repair tech like me in your area. It's easy to mess up a solder job and even harder to clean it up with out the proper set up. In the long run you'd save time and money having it done. Thanks for checking out my channel!

@@vampcaff Thank you for the response. I don't hear anything rattling inside, so the rim might be hollow but not 100% sure. It's a Bach Strad 18037g and unfortunately the horn was handled carelessly (impact of side of bell against a surface, long story) which caused some light creasing in the bell, which caused a couple splits in the rim soldering.... one is about 2" long and the other is about 1" long, and not as separated.... Definitely don't have any instrument repair experience and will be taking it to a tech...it definitely needs a cleaning and some work. I'm wondering if it's one of those things where if it's just cosmetic, then it may be just better to leave it..... I'm worried about it spreading though. Thanks again.

For silver plating it depends on the manufacturer but usually we're talking ten thousandths of a mm thick. If it's solid silver then it's as thick as the bell is. Silver is a lot easier to work with in my opinion than brass.

The roller I am using is about 1 1/2 inches wide by 4 inches long. I have several tutorial videos planned for the future! Stay tuned!

Buy a socket and a extension

@@emidioaquino8039 😂 i get it now. Total joke, i thought you were serious for a second there.

Why wouldn't a socket work?

Thanks a lot! That's very good ingenuity using a glass bottle for dent work! You can order rollers like this from any machinist tooling company or from a Band Instrument Repair tool company like Votaw or Ferree's.

I didn't see anything like this tool on either of those sites.

Does it have a technical name?

Dent roller maybe have no clue either

Votaw sells them, make sure you're on the right votaw tools website. Should be the one for instrument repair. They're called rolling mandrels.

If it's badly crimped, yes. But if it were that bad I would anneal the brass to soften it then hammer it out. Repeat the process off annealing when the brass is work hardened until the creases are hammered out.

Holes will need to be patched and dents are usually on a case to case basis. I would have to see the trumpet i guess 😁

Hourly rate for repair is $65. Dents like this are usually estimate only and don't have an exact price. I pretty much start the clock when i start and when I'm done i see how long it took and charge accordingly.

Okay thanks!

20 minute video. so..... about $25? :)

😂 exactly!

With severe dent work like this it's done on a per hour labor rate of $65. I pretty much start the clock and when it's done that's what it costs. As far as estimates go it's all on a case by case scenario but this one in particular was $120 which included a $60 play condition (chem wash and valve throw regulations)

You'll get the best results with a roller but in a pinch a highly polished tapered steel mandrel will work.

@@joshsinstrumentrepair thank man 👊

Mallets work best when the brass can be layed flush on a steel mandrel. In the case of a bell your best bet is a bell roller. There are occasions where a mallet on the bell comes in handy but that's more for sharp dents rather than folds as in the example shown in this video. The material of the mallet also matters greatly. I only use delrin and steel hammers for dent work.

I do show in the video the use of a raw hide mallet to straighten the lip of the bell.

There's several companies that specialize in band instrument repair tools. The two main companies I like are Votaw Tools and Ferree's.

No!!!!!! I'm so sorry that your instrument was ruined. Such a shame that people are so quick to repair as fast as possible. The dent machine is a great to tool to get quick results but quick isn't always best. I get pretty good results with my shops dent machine but at home I go old school.