A 7/8 Annoy-o-tron. What's he do, play Pauly Shore movies at full volume?

It's kind of annoying how many people don't get that discarding specific cards when not going into fatigue is not bad at all, and annoying how often Trump has to repeat something that obvious. Sure you can say, Fel Reaver is bad because it makes you go into fatigue, that's all a matter of opinion. BUT you can't say it's bad for discarding specific cards when it doesn't go into fatigue. Like saying: "Oh you discarded Jeeves, so bad." The probability to draw a specific card (when not going into fatigue) is exactly the same, no matter if you discard 9 cards or not. As often as you discard Jeeves, just as often it will happen that you only draw Jeeves because of discarding the 9 cards above it. That's probability, and it is a fact, no opinion.

Lol, when a Fireblast to the face is the right play. 6:48

Oh Trump, you have taught me so very much about Hearthstone and the meaning of true value. I would agree with your opinion on 99% of the cards. Fel Reaver is in that 1% I don't. A 5 mana for 8/8 is truly amazing. When you add the drawback onto it, I would actually put it down there with magma rager. There are far too many situations in which you lose at least 9 cards and then it gets destroyed. Against zoo or other super aggro decks you might lose 15 or maybe even 18 cards. So basically no matter how many excuses you make. It's shit, get rid of it. Kind regards, Most of the people who watched this video

The new sounds in GvG are so adorable and so funny, My favorties consist of HELLOOOO! Special Delivery! HAHAHAH For a little bot, I pack a big punch! The Trumpet that gives taunt which name I can't remember Come close, and listen. Those are just some of the sounds I most enjoy in GvG

I've been playing a rogue mech deck too, and I'm always so happy when I get annoyotron vs warriors. really messes up their insta-fiery war axe turn 2.

Hah. Disguised toast.

To describe my thought about Fell Reaver i shall use a recreation of the Warlords of Draenor trailer. Gul'Dan: Play this card Hellscream and you will win the game *offers Hellscream Fell Reaver* Hellscream: And what, Gul'Dan...must I give in return? -.- Gul'Dan: *dramatic face* Everything! *dissenchant sound*

Here is a simple way to tell if fel reaver is bad or not: When it's played, did the person who played it hit fatigue? If not, it was a 5 mana 8/8. If so, it was a 5 mana 8/8 that essentially discarded 1 card for however many turns they were in fatigue. That's it, that's all there is to it. The ONLY time fel reaver isn't a 5 mana 8/8 is when you go into fatigue. If you think otherwise, you're wrong.

"All the obvious mech cards." ...no Piloted Shredder, wut?!?

Im litreally wondering, why so many people here don´t understand why fel reaver is such a good card. It simply does not statisticly affect your draws at all, except if you go into fatigue, which is highly unlikely in an aggro deck. Did this people who don´t like the card never have math in school?

Still not convinced fel reaver is worth it.

Good to see that people still don't understand Fel Reaver whatsoever. Great card in the right deck.

I swear, all Control Warriors have the same starting hand: War Axe into Armoursmith/acolyte into Death's Bite. I say it's far more cancerous than Hunters ever were.

The title " I Don't Need No Deck" is saying that you need a deck. (double negative)

I don't think that Fel Reaver is bad, but it's strange that no one seems to realise it has a hidden drawback. Your opponent sees which cards you discard. This can make a big difference. For example if I know my opponent is out of hard removal, I can play my late game cards freely. If I know my opponent is out of burn taunts are not as important, etc.

I love the darkwisper flavour text (druid card) it says "don't warrie we fired the guy who named this card"

Hey Trump, I just went 12 wins in arena with mage and I wanted to thank you. You have allowed me to learn and enjoy the game as well as make entairtaining videos and streams while doing it. Just wanted to say thanks.

Fel Reaver is Goldshire Footman tier. Idk why people are saying, "if you don't fatigue, its like nothing happened!" Trunp doesn't realize that those cards do something. He lost both of his Jeeves one game. Those cards could've brought him back into the game by filling his hand

Oh my god, the Iron Sensei's voice is amazing.

Iron sensei has such a baddass one liner when you play him.

Fel Reaver would work a lot better if their were more cards like Mana Wraith and Lotheb. Think about it, by making it harder for your opponent to play cards, the Fel Reaver's drawback will have little to no effect.

"As long as you don't go into fatigue..." sure, but Fel Reaver makes it more LIKELY that you'd go into fatigue. I agree that if you had a 1000 card deck, then burning 30 or even 60 cards would be largely insignificant. but in a 30 card deck, burning half of it or more makes it extremely more likely that you'd fatigue then you would have had otherwise. and THAT is the real misunderstanding people have about fel reaver

Playing Freeze Mage on ladder , opponent hunter has HUGE board. Suddenly, opponent played Fel Reaver! Blizzard+arcane intellect, opponent burns 6 cards next turn, nova+doom burns 6 cards more, suddenly hunter has only two cards left! opponent auto concedes!

Gosh, all these people complaining about Fel Reaver. Trump never hit fatigue, so the downside was never relevant. As long as you don't hit fatigue, the effect is the same as "put the top three cards of your deck onto the bottom of your deck." Discarding cards from the deck doesn't do anything to the board, yet playing an 8/8 for 5 mana is quite a big swing.

I like how Jeeves is the new Gadgetzan in a couple different decks.

*The Fel Reaver Debate Solved (An Article)* _What Trump and the Majority of the Comment Section Got Wrong_ Disclaimer: This is purely my assessment of thoughts, feel free to add to the discussion by replying. *The Two Cases* 1) Trump argues that the card discards from Fel Reaver have absolutely no impact in the game. 2) Others argue that the burns from Fel Reaver have a negative impact on the game. *Card Advantage* Wikipedia defines card advantage as “a term used in collectible card game strategy to indicate one player having access to more cards than another player, usually by *drawing more cards through in-game effects.* The concept was first described early in the evolution of Magic: The Gathering strategy, where many early decks relied on a player drawing more cards than their opponent…” The key to understand card advantage is the act of specifically *drawing* cards from your deck. The cards you draw are totally random and their order is too. This is why cards such as Azure Drake and Gnomish Inventor are considered good cards. They essentially replace themselves in terms of cards, while still providing a body with good stats on the board. Cards like Thoughtsteal and Arcane Intellect act similarly. They generate card advantage because they replace themselves but add an additional card into your hand. Unlike the previous example, however, they do not provide an additional body. Both cases are still card advantage. If the Azure Drake or Gnomish Inventor manage to trade for 1 or more of the opponent’s cards, such as removal spells or an enemy minion, then the player with the Azure Drake/Gnomish Inventor managed to gain card advantage. It took a card to kill the body, but the card replaced itself. Hence, the Azure Drake/Gnomish Inventor created a favorable 2 for 1 scenario. If the body managed to draw more of the opponent’s cards, then the scenario turns into a 3 for 1, etc. A way to generate card advantage is through overall “value” minions/spells. These are cards that manage to remove 2 or more of the opponent’s cards with the use of just 1 card. Fel Reaver without card text is a “value” minion, because is a 5 mana 8/8, which is spectacular stats, which will can draw out 2 or more of the opponent’s cards, generating card advantage. However, the debate arises over it’s card text: “Whenever your opponent plays a card, discard the top 3 cards of your deck.” *Random Discards* Would you consider discarding cards as having a significant impact in the game, despite absolute randomness? The answer is yes, and no. This is due to Hearthstone's fatigue mechanic, and the fact that Fel Reaver reveals burned cards. Take this scenario as an example. Let's take a card that is usually absolutely crucial to win most games. (i.e. Alexstraza in freeze mage) Alexstraza is a key card in freeze mage, as it sets up lethal for burn spells or restores the health of the mage to the point of stabilization (though the former is more likely). Although illogical (for obvious reasons), let's say the mage runs Fel Reaver in her deck. There will always be a random chance of Fel Reaver burning Alexstraza. The chance of Alexstraza being burned is the same as any other card in the deck. Remember that the deck orientation throughout the game is always random, and there is no way to know what card the players will draw, except for when the card is the last card in the deck. There is always (in fraction form) a 1/x chance (where x is the number of cards left in the mage's deck) of any particular card in the mage's deck being burned. It does not matter how many cards are burned, there is never a higher chance of Alexstaza being burned than any other remaining card in the deck. Because there is always an equal chance of discard, and Alexstraza always assumes a random position the mage's deck,*the probability of Alexstraza being discarded is EQUAL to any other card in the deck, and the probability of Alexstraza never being drawn is EQUAL to any other card in the deck.* Yes, I know. Some may comment “but the mage runs _two_ Ice Blocks and _two_ Fireballs, and _two_ Ice Lances, etc.!” Just because they are two copies of one identical card doesn’t mean that the probability of “two-ofs” vs. “one-ofs” should be excluded. Let’s name the remaining Fireballs in the mage’s deck (assuming that there are 2 left) For simplicity’s sake, their names are “Fireball 1” and “Fireball 2.” The probability of Alexstraza being discarded is still the same as any other card. The rule still applies for identical names of cards. *Probability of Alexstraza discard = probability of Fireball 1 discard = probability of Fireball 2 discard.* In terms of cards (Fireball 1, Fireball 2), there is still an equal discard chance. *However, since there are two copies of Fireball left, the chance of Fireball being discarded is twice as likely as the chance of Alexstraza being discarded.* Therefore, Fel Reaver’s discards have no effect on card advantage whatsoever, under the circumstances that you never hit the point of fatigue. This is because the cards you burn are essentially you never drawing them. *Tracking* Still not convinced? Take the hunter card Tracking for example. “Look at the top three cards of your deck. Draw one and discard the others.” This card is considered good because while it does not generate card advantage, it provides the player with more options. The fact that the two discards are gone may actually be a benefit, because the player may not want to draw those cards in the coming turns. Is tracking bad because you “lose” the two cards? No, because as we discussed before, the odds of discarding the cards is the same as never even drawing them. The exception comes from fatigue. For now, just think of Fel Reaver’s discards as that of tracking, but you have no control over it. In other words, this was just to reaffirm the point that Fel Reaver’s discards DO NOT matter until fatigue. As a side note, at one point I believe Trump had to defend the card Tracking because of its discard “downside.” I find it amusing that he has to employ the same argument again for Fel Reaver. *Where Trump Went Wrong (Slightly), The Value of Information* Trump claims that there is “absolutely” no downside to Fel Reaver’s discard until the player hits fatigue (more on fatigue in the next section). This is wrong. Because the Fel Reaver’s discards are shown to your opponent, he/she knows what cards to play around. He/she knows, for instance, that Gromash Hellscream in no longer in your deck, or that you have no more Eviscerates, or that the secret you just played can’t be Ice Block because you just burned two of them. Information comes at a cost. *Fatigue* Tracking and Fel Reaver have a _potential_ downside, in that they induce fatigue. If fatigue is never reached, then there is no downside to Fel Reaver’s discards except for information. This notion of information can’t be said for Tracking, though, because the discards from Tracking are not revealed to the opponent. If at any point in time, a player cannot draw a card at the start of their turn mainly because of Fel Reaver’s discards, then card advantage is to be taken account. Fel Reaver does not affect card advantage initially because it is on the contingency of fatigue. Because cards in the player’s hand are not affected in until the end of the game, Fel Reaver isn’t strictly a loss in cards. *We can interpret Fel Reaver’s limitation of card draw at the end of the game as a “delayed loss of cards.” Again, this only applies because a player could not draw a card normally. *Final Verdict* *As long as Fel Reaver’s discards do not limit cards drawn because of reaching fatigue (essentially losing a card), it has no downside except for information.* *A Typical Fel Reaver* Let’s take Fel Reaver for what it typically is: “5 mana 8/8, reveal the ⅓ (one-third) of the total cards in your deck to your opponent, and discard the cards.” Would it be a good card, or a bad card? In the case of an aggressive deck in which most games don’t result in the player reaching fatigue, it is 5 mana 8/8, lose deck information. In the case of a control deck in which reaching fatigue is more likely, Fel Reaver is a 5 mana 8/8, take a delayed loss of card advantage dependent on the number of cards you were limited from drawing, lose deck information. *Implications* Don’t run Fel Reaver in a deck which is heavily reliant on drawing a particular card. Don’t run Fel Reaver in a deck in which you do not want to reveal an innovative play style to your opponent. Don’t run Fel Reaver in a heavy control deck, or a control deck in which it is somewhat likely to reach fatigue. Never play Fel Reaver against a Miracle Rogue. *Fel Reaver is best suited for an aggressive deck like Trump’s. :)* In the case of reaching fatigue with a deck like Trump’s anyway, the downside of Fel Reaver’s “delayed loss of card advantage” is even less so than previously discussed. By the time Trump is fatiguing, he probably lost anyway because the game went long enough and he is playing an aggressive deck against a slower deck.

The two warrior games truly illustrate how the Fiery War Axe is definitely a Fiery Win Axe. If that makes sense...

why not running in a deck with silence and use it on your Fel reaver

gotta love da video output

once when facing a weird mill warrior i had fel reaver discard two burrowing mines. It was beautiful.

I'm so glad Trump checked the Tinkerer's draw at 24:38 xD I literally said aloud "N-no, wait!"

Aw, I thought I was being super original by putting Fel Reaver in the Rogue mech deck. But really, with mechwarper its like a Mountain Giant that doesn't require your deck to have no tempo. I'm glad my love of Iron Sensei is being validated, too

THAT MAGE PULLING 2 LEGEND OMG I DIED

I am a strong independant player who needs no deck to win a game

Hey trump. do you think you could go over. What should you disenchant and what not to? Like which legendaries to just absolutely scrap and get the dust for ones played in the current meta

7/8 Annoy-o-tron: Chewing with his mouth open.

"Good to know a deck like that can't run Pyroblast." Well Trump, you would be in for a nasty surprise against my mech mage deck :)

Very enjoyable deck to watch! plzmore

So fun fact about Fel Reaver, you want it in the late game because it doesn't trigger fatigue, it cant discard nothing.

Just looking at that title and a word enters my mind: Reaver.

Trump how do you manage not to rage when the RNG lords just spit in your face? That is your greatest talent I wish to gain.

where can i get that mod, he has running in the left of his screen? i think it would be very helpful for a person with a destroyed short time memory like me.

So it's turn 10 and I'm playing against a shaman in the arena as a mage. He is winning big time and i'm out of big guys to play. My opponent then plays Fel reaver. I play the three 2-drop minions in my hand and polymorph his reaver. Can you guess who won? Hint: i got a friend request afterwards.

11:39 "A recent opponent would like to be your friend!" We know whats going to happen next.

Is that thing that shows the cards left in the deck an addon? Thank you!

The Micro Machine's voice reminds me of Mr. Hankey.

I actually wish more ppl would play Fel Reaver. I enjoy burning them to fatigue with the peacekeeper hard counter, warrior/rogue multi card removal, and mill druid... that one is just sinful feeling

That last match, when the warrior threatened, I said "top deck Iron Sensei." A few moments later, I was in tears of laughter.

I hate that doge meme.. but that 'wow' in the beginning cracked me up.

Oh, shit. Does Trump let out a small "fuckin'" at 10:42? Never heard him swear before. What a champ

There is already a:"Hyper aggro mech rogue deck" based around Mimiron's head.

Is there anyway to consistently give your opponent one of *your* minions? If so, Fel Reaver could make a kick ass mill deck.

Unstable portal so broken right now. Not so much in constructed... but all the arena runs I lost because of t3 Cairne.

I made almost this exact deck right when GvG dropped. Posted on liquid hearth also. I ran the 4 drop mechs though, and none of the one drops.

Title: "I don't need no deck." First seconds of video: Crafting two epic cards. No.

Okay, now we need a giant with the following effect: Costs 1 less for every card missing in your deck. Mana cost: About 20?

Gazlowe is a nice add to this deck seeing s though i dont have fel reevers

I felt the doge 0:14

What the program he use to show his deck , is that an edit or a program ?

I will never run Fel Reaver. I don't care how many times the pros say it's good, I disagree. Maybe that's why I'm not pro, but I just don't think it's a good card.

Only with Trump do I find myself shouting ''JUST FUCKING DO IT'' at the screen so much

The Fel Reaver looks terrible, but my logo is based of a Fel Reaver, and Fel Reavers are my favorite mobs in WoW so I MUST have them.

One thing I would change about this deck is add a silence to help with enemies minions and to silence your fel reavers so they are just 8/8's.

Haha this deck is amazing, i've had 3 turn 3 rage quits when i brought out mechwarper + iron sensei + micro machine xD and i've replaced the fel reaver with sea giants, works perfectly

The Fel Reaver is an extremely situational card. The only class I can see it having any real success with is the priest since they can silence it on the same turn. Even with that, odds are high that your opponent will have a way to remove it. I haven't watched Trumps twitch stream in awhile but I'm pretty sure he's dumped the card at this point.

A fel reaver on top of a full board is sexy in an aggro deck since your main goal is value for face but once the reaver gets cockblocked your game could be done. Just imagine a doomsayer into frostnova against that

i fail to see how the fact a card cuts through your deck like a rotary saw through warm butter is NOT a downside...

I like this mech deck a lot. However, I didn't like his recent Mage mech deck. I'm not sure why, but the Mage version just didn't feel cohesive and seemed more vulnerable. Clearly they're both aggro decks, with the Mage version having the burn option with spells, but for some reason, this one just seems like more fun, and I find it more entertaining to watch.

I am new can you explain me why trumps use the normal card when he have the golden form

Aldor Peacekeeper Vs Fel Reaver = Massive Disappointment for the reaver owner. GG.

drop fel reavers for Gazlowe and extra mech / 1 cost spell = way more value. Gazlowe is a legend with a gimped unstable portal mechanic and runs very well in a mech rogue deck.

One off enhanco-mechano could be good. I also like the fell reaver inclusion

fel reaver could work in combo with silence. Without it, it sucks. Or play 1 on 9 mana and on 10 mana 1 fel reaver with wailing soul. While you have silence in your deck you can use ancient watcher too. Together with argus defender it would make a solid start. just a thought....

Well, a few days ago i got a golden gallywix out of a pack. I made alot of research and didnt find any deck i could afford. I wanted to ask you if you could show us a working gallywix budget deck or even comment a link to one. Thanks for your Attention.

How can I make so I can see my cards at the left liek Trump?

thanks for the video :3

is that an in-game tracker on the left ? or just for us to see the deck ?

Lol, I play mill rogue, I once discarded half the deck from the opponent on turn 5, coldlight oracle, shadowstep, coldlight oracle, shadowstep, preparation, sap thanks to fel reaver, then sap him back :) He lost a total of +18 cards due to mill + fel reaver effects.

"Burns both Jeeves" Burn didnt hurt at all- Trump 2014 Seriously, I think trump is delusional about the fel reaver. The best cards in hearthstone are the ones who do consistently good things, and fel reaver is going to consistently burn 6+ cards and then get hit by hard removal. Constructed decks, even aggro ones, thrive on synergy. Too often is the fel reaver going to burn your crucial cards, in this case, both jeeves. And thats pretty much the average scenario, lets say we get one of the better scenarios where he plays two cards and we dont burn anything important, but cant remove the fell reaver. We get a 5 mana 8/8 going into turn 6. Is that actually that good? Is this scenario good enough to win you the game and is it even going to happen that often? I will say we should give it a chance, GvG is still relativity new. But I can't see the fel reaver sticking around in many non-gimmick decks

Is the Deck tracker edited afterwards? or is he using some sort of addon??

28:08 The worst kind of hearthstone player: "I lost so I'll concede halfway through your turn."

I love the effort people are putting in the comments trying to explain how Fel Reaver is supposedly bad? 8/8 m8 4 effort, but I don't think anyone should care about your comments until you have broken rank 20 at least

Is iron sensei not the best card you've ever seen?? His emotes are so bad-ass lol

whqats that thing on the left side counting his cards?

The card counter to the right is extremely helpful XD could do with one

That gold hunter looks like his name is bruce.

someone should build a mass silence deck, where the goal is to silence your own minions to stop their negative aspects, like for instance the beast or that 6 mana 9/9

Trump, i've got a question for you, with all the golden cards you have, why you never select them?

iron sensei sounds so cool.

2 legendaries from Unstable Portal and 3 unlikely heals to the face with Gelbin's Awesome Invention. Someone's hacking that RNG :P

ohhh the salt from that warrior lose, I can stop the upcoming snail army!

That last Warrior was pretty sour. HELLO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!

how come unstable portal keep making legendarys?

There should be a "Give your opponent target minion card"! Think about it! Fell Reaver would be much better, and you might even be able to trick your opponent into the Mistress of Pain- Auchenai Soulpriest combo!

I tried Fel Reaver a few times in arena, and I got decked ALOT. They would be able to stall enough to exploit. It would also be terrible to be aldor'd

Your decklist in the left... Is it a tool/program? Because you can see qhen a card is out etc.

how can I put the deck on the screen side ?

To any people out there who think fel reaver is bad because you lose cards: You're silly. As long as you don't go into fatigue, it doesn't matter what cards you lose, because they aren't in your hand, and therefore don't matter as much. That aside, I think more thought should go into Trump's decks. I spend hours on end finding the perfect cards to put into my deck, and I usually have about five or six different versions before narrowing it down. Seeing trump just throw "good cards" into the deck sort of peeves me, but whatever floats his boat. He is a pro, after all.

wait wait wait, unless im missing something, at 23:46 when he used eviscerate on the first ironbeak owl, couldnt he have saved it and had lethal if he used it face? or was it a case of not knowing what the secret was? forgive my grammar, spelling, punctuation, diction, syntax, spelling and repetition; im drunk