73 year old addict here. I go to local parks twice a day every day. I just got back from trying this grip. Wow, an average of 20 feet farther. I did not change my current style, just the grip. At first I pulled them to the right but when focusing on the line of my throw (point the elbow) straighter and longer thanks. No if if I can only do this when surrounded by trees!

Broski, I tried to tell people to try this about a decade ago and everyone thought I was stupid. Baseball doesn't palm the ball. It's in the fingers not the palm. So SO many of the best discers don't even know what their own body is doing. I'm not hating. You don't need to explain it to do it. That's why coaches exist. Somebody has to do the thinking and training of others. Great advice and great delivery. Athletic movements are nearly universal. Kids today don't know bout Bo Jackson. But Bo knows... 😂

I watched this video one time doing my best to copy the grip change. Felt very foreign to what I had been doing for 10+ years then played the following day and was crushing it off the tee and everywhere else. Have watched dozens of videos about generating snap to no avail. Simply awesome, the disc left my hand nose down and with more effortless speed I could not believe it. Got to places on the course that I have never been from the tee. Thank you

Great tip! Going to work on this asap. Keep up the vids coach T.

I found my snap-grip when i reverse rolled the disc from my fingertips in to my palm. I also only use 3 fingers. It works great. Now im gonna try focusing on my back leg and the weight shift you talked about in your other video. Thanks!

This is the exact grip I use. I found it using a radar gun and later a TechDisc. Most people grip with their "fist." I call this gripping with your fingers. It keeps your wrist loose and adds an inch or so to your "whip" length. I get 2-3 more mph with this grip.

Thank you for sharing this. This is what i was missing. This will be my final grip. i just started but i would always fiddle and change my grip because there is a lot of different style and information according to the other videos on you tube. i felt like i was gripping/doing it wrong. I say this because i started with this style grip on one of my first throw and i bombed it. impressed one of my friend who's been playing for years. Like you said, everyone is different and find your own comfortable grip. Thanks again for this tid bit.

I just had wrist surgery and lost more than half of my range of motion. I lost a good 75 feet in distance, and am struggling to get close to 300' again. Your in and out video gave me an extra 50' before the surgery. At this point, I'm kinda depressed, and I'm desperate to get more distance. I'll give this a try. Thanks!

That slow motion pull speaks volumes. That disc looks like a fricken taco in flexibility.

Crazy I was just talking to a local who can consistently hit 500' with a max of 600', he grips the same way. Ive been having some serious griplock and early release issues with my mids, just tried this and now the disc is releasing cleanly with a ton more power, easily getting over 220' with minimal effort around my small yard, can't wait to try this at my local course on a full rip. Thinking I'll be able to hit 300'

Been trying all sorts of grips for the past 1.5 years now. But I also finally learned to plant my brace foot first just recently and oh boy... you really can feel those hips lock with explosion at the end. Was able to get my 9 speed fairway out 400 thanks to you! Now I'll be trying this grip out and see if I can bomb it 400+ consistently.

100% agree at the very end there. The grip and grip pressure should scale with the power being generated so you get snap and accuracy.

Will have to try this. Have you done a video on what workouts/stretching you do for the slingshot?

Same grip ive used for yrs. Helps with nose angle IMO.

very much a beginner...started father's day when me son's got me discs and a basket. I struggled to throw 200. My max was 225, once. I switched from Stokley's palm grip to your grip and then next two sessions I threw over 300. Birdied a 350 hole that I struggled to get to in 4 in the past. Plan to purchase your course when I know I have time to go through it.

100% my grip, would also suggest looser grip provided greater wrist mobility for increased spin and snap (squeeze the disc hard and check how mobile your wrist is). Great post and comments on core strength, mobility, and body mechanics!

Nice video. I do a similar thing but with only 3 fingers (idk it just feels better for me). I'm working on the off hand motion but it messes with me mentally so bad that its hard to practice cause my throw goes to shit. Appreciate the content as always mate.

Interesting to get the disc out of the palm. Can't wait to try it out!

Very interesting, can't wait to try it out

great vid. cant wait to try it.

Love your videos. Now if only I could make these changes

I couldn't never get the nose angle down with a 3 or 4 finger power grip i think its just my large palms and weird palm crease shape but i started using the bonopane grip and it works great for me to get nose down and and i get some snap out of it. This might help me with a normal 3-4 finger power grip since it takes the disc out of my unusual palm crease shape.

So everybody is always like get it deep in the palm, but I've just been messing with my grip and that limits the wrist action. Granted it makes it very easy to get the nose angle right, but it makes it hard to snap. Same with a fan grip. I simply went from middle finger on the rim to index finger on the rim for forehand last year and went from zero to very good with control and distance just because I can hinge my wrist one way and not the other. I have been trying to figure out how to get over 300 feet forever and it's not a power problem. I train for strength and explosiveness and if I hit first available there's a loud bang and a cloud of pine bark dust. It disc goes where it's going fast, but not far. I think it's a lack of spin problem. This has me confident enough to start working on what I've been staring at holding the disc and moving my hand around with different grips even though it's "wrong."

Just gotta figure out something. Cant seem to get up to 300'. Too tired from my job to actually do field work. Quit my job to practice more? Dammit man youre right, ill put my notice in today. But will for sure try this before sunset and i go practice, finally.

This is how I naturally gripped the disc since I started in 2012

Gonna go try some drills with this when the weather doesn’t suck.

If your disc leaves your hand going 70 MPH, it had to accelerate to that speed from zero in the total distance from your reachback to release, (6-7 feet). Your body has to generate a specific amount of NET energy to perform this acceleration, it comes from the combined output of your legs, torso, back and arm muscles, (probably mostly abs and back). This requires 2.38 pounds-force for a 170 gram disc. The longer your arms (Anthony Barela) the more leverage you have to create that force. The stronger your torso (Garret Gurthie) the more core strength you have to create that force. Since you can't grow longer arms, the best way to gain big distance (once your form is moderately good) is Standing Bar Twists, Decline Situp Twists, and weighted stair climbing.

My grip is traah I need to try this. I have a bad habit of letting go before releasing. I was always told to put it in my palm so it will be interesting to try this out

I do this too, and the lighter the disc, the more fingertip I use

it worked for me but i couldnt replicate it for my midrange and i like to keep same grip for max distance even if using different disc and i can throw about 420ft sometimes around 450ft on a low ceiling flat shot in no wind.. if really nice tailwind can get a bit more out of it so im happy with my modified fan grip like Lizotte

I did this grip before, its nice when you get that good shot, feels more powerful but its harder to control the nose angle and i got lots of wrist rolls

I found this grip a few months ago myself and have noticed way more consistency, consistent nose angle, and snap with this grip. McBeth uses the same grip.

Tried this grip by accident the other day and went from 290 to between 365 to 400 ft in a matter of days this grip works.

I'll try this next time but it feels like my pinky can't get a strong grip, and if it does, the disc gets pulled deeper into the part of the palm yours is 'grazing'. Also, another way to possible describe getting into this grip could be: start with the normal middle-crease of your palm alignment, then bump the ball of the palm from below the edge of the disc to above it and then don't grip so hard that it is pulled tight into the palm.

This seems counterproductive to the “your index finger creates a pinch point for the disc to translate linear momentum to spin” with all 4 fingers contacting the disc. I guess I’ll have to use my own science experiments to test it out

Thought I was the only one who gripped this way.

im 6' 5" with big ol hands. I do this naturally because it feels like i have too much finger curl under the disc.

I have never placed the disc in my palm, it doesn't feel natural. I have always gripped it with my fingers first to get a natural feel and then dropped my thumb where I need it for the shot.

no power in the arm. this is the ultimate statement: generate power from legs, core, and shoulders!

Any suggestions for a grip with arthritic hands?

Do you use this for mids and putters ?

Old man here, I previously said 20' I meant to say 20 steps farther. 20 steps X 2.4' per step =48' farther. I will throw again today.

That grip looks like you have zero control where this disc is gonna fly

Before today I would rate myself between beginner and intermediate, 300' max golf shot, 350' max field distance shot, playing for ~13 months. Here's how my practice round went: Hole 1, neutral 9 speed, ripped it hyzerflip into a headwind, instead of hyzer, big miss, but 305' on a 315, still par. Hole 3, I noticed I was throwing 15 degrees right, so I started doing an angled walk up and straight throw(like with the sticks), instead of a straight walk up and stepping out on the brace. I did this for the rest of the round as it was the first time it felt good to start from off the side of the teepad. Neutral to stable fairway: the first time I've throw this disc and it went straight, bombed it as far as a straight 9 speed. Neutral 9 speed, good distance shot. Understable to stable 13 speed, I got this disc just for skips, this was my first full flight of it ever. Hole 4, 3 good flights, but all over the place because of wind(all still par-able). Hole 5, My best hyzerflip of my flippy Valkyrie ever, 320' into a 15' gap for an easy upshot on a par 4(I've birdied this hole once before, with a similar but shorter shot). Hole 7, sent my fairway on a straight flight OB over the path. I expected about 75' of a stable turn, which never came. Hole 10, early release due to low grip pressure. My neutral 9 speed still turned more than flat, very weird to have an early release and have the disc go 200'. Hole 12, Normally my play is mid - mid - putt because it's a wooded 300', from now on I'm saying goodbye to the bushes and going for the 300' shot(C1, blocked by branches). Hole 16, Hyzerflip on the 13 speed into a headwind. This one felt really good because the headwind on this hole normally tears up my 9 speeds, not a max distance throw, but the placement was the best I've ever had. Hole 17, a wooded 315'. My best shot ever here was a flat release with my neutral 9 speed, turning it over and back to the basket. This is a 20% shot for me, requiring a good tailwind to push me to the basket. I threw both the left gap with my 9 speed, and the hyzerflip gap with my 13 speed (not into a headwind this time). I had to go back and rethrow to make sure, my first throw was 10' and the other 3 were inside 40'. 4/4 throws on a 20% shot. Hole 18, a medium width fairway, 330', 3/4 shots were roughly as good as my best throw previously, 1 went into the trees. Normally with my 9 speeds I'm about 55% on throwing a shot with a good result. Today I had 2 bad shots, one early release(still a par), and one into the trees (probably a grip problem, but who knows). That's about 50 drives with only one shot costing me a point. On the way home I realized i had not one issue with nose angle. This is not normal. In one day I went from throwing for distance with drivers and using mids for when I need control, to throwing drivers with control. In one day I can throw a 13 speed for a full flight. TLDR; With this grip, it feels like my hand is locked to the disc. With the Stokely/everyone else power grip the disc feels loose in my hand, I can wobble it all over with my other hand, it feels similar to the stability my forehand grip gives. I believe with this grip I have had perfect nose angle(as far as I can tell), which only the Bonapane grip has given me in the past. This makes sense to me because I can go back and forth between this grip and Bonapane and my hand/wrist/disc angles are very similar This grip has allowed me to throw 6,7,9,13 speeds and get a perfect flight for the distances I'm throwing. I believe this grip has given me about 10kph/5mph more speed only based on the changes to how my discs fly (as if I had 10kph more headwind than I did), with additional rpm's to match. In one day I changed from being a beginner(in my mind) to throwing a shot(4 out of 4 times in a row) that only 1000+ rated players were able to throw in the A tier last weekend(and only 50% of them did) This was the last piece of the puzzle falling into place.

Grip is everything. I went from 100 feet to 500 feet just by switching from a 1 finger grip to a 5 finger

Good for an open field rip . But you aren’t getting any accuracy with that .

Hey... people who are as old as dirt NEED grip gimmicks! LOL.

Snap has never equaled distance.

I have a hard time getting a solid grip on my disc ever since I started baking sourdough bread for my goldendoodle. I have to use vaseline to lube up the dutch oven and I can never get it off my hands. Super slippery . What would you recommend for this circumstance? Thanks so much for your Special Talents and Advisories