Cameron has come closest to putting the ethos of the 40k universe on the big screen, that humans have cast-off so much of their humanity for endless war that they've practically become more violent, ruthless and threatening than the xenomorphs in Alien ever were.

I've listened to thousands of hours of the trap and this avatar review is the happiest, most positive, most un-sarcastic they have ever been.

The Age of Napoleon continues

my girlfriend cried when they killed the whale and then she was literally cheering outloud when payakan and the navi were brutally murdering the whalers

Part of the reason why the scene when Quaritch holds up his skull is so profound is because it's a reference to Hamlet and the message of immortality/life after death. When Hamlet holds up the skull, he does the famous "life is but a walking shadow" monologue, and the whole message of that monologue is that life is fucking pointless and meaningless. When Quaritch holds up his human skull, he's still coming to grips with the fact that that he was resurrected on behalf of capitalism because he was an investment, and the corporation needs to maximize its return on investment. Forget the fact that the faceless capitalist machine is creating sentience solely to maximize profits. Ethics be damned. So as he's coming to grips with the fact that he's been resurrected in hell (as a demon as the Na'vi call him), by holding the skull like Hamlet does, he's expressing that he thinks life is pointless, which is in part why he crushes his skull in frustration. But as the Chapo guys talk about, throughout this movie Cameron is expressing that life *isn't* pointless, and that if you, thru love and bravery, fight on behalf of the world and those around you, then you will live forever, just not with fountain of youth bullshit. So if Quaritch in Avatar 3, 4, or 5 realizes that life isn't pointless and that he can live forever by devoting his life to fighting against the faceless, ethics be damned, machine of capitalism, then he will switch sides.

Cameron: Every Frame a Painting Russos: Every Line a Tweeting

The initial landing of the Sky People is Neon Genesis levels of horrifying and the music during that scene is extremely reminiscent of the Evangelion soundtrack

it is actually adorable how much they love this movie

I AM NOW AVATARDED AND NAVIPILLED

The orcas (i.e. killer whales) have listened to this episode, and I wish them godspeed!!!

I'm glad the Chapo boys loved the "humans re-arriving on Pandora" scene as much as I did.

There’s some extensive similarities between the Dune books and the Avatar movies (not hating on either, just interesting). - messianic protagonist - protagonist is “the wrong guy” - extrasolar planet, currently uninhabitable for humans while another species/group thrives - each planet has its respective “unobtainium,” literal in the case of Avatar. - protagonist is introduced to planetary natives under the pretenses of colonialism - blue - protagonist assimilates with natives and becomes top banana - protagonist rides the biggest and baddest monster - Imperial humanity is successfully combatted, and overcome - one of protagonist’s children possesses even greater supernatural abilities

For all the people wishing they were Na'vi, realistically the most they could be in the Avatar Universe is Spider

The whale section of this episode is going into my gym playlist Also I'm making this comment on company time, look at me go

Waiting to see it in 480p, as Allah intended.

This movie works because they made it *real*.. the texture resolution in this second film is fucking INSANE. There were a few frames when the older brother Neteyam was smiling and I was seeing every gradient of white-to-yellow with slight chips and stains on his cat teeth. The Na'vi skin has more density, more pores and layers than the first movie and the amount of expression they were able to get with face mocap blows the first one out of the fucking water..

Felix is so unbelievably real for referencing Armored Core AND Zone of the Enders in the same sentence.

I can't enjoy the movie at my dead end job but I can be radicalized endlessly by its review. I was looking forward to this review for so long

One detail I noticed and appreciated with the Ahab guy and Payakan is that Payakan lost half of his one fin. Which he returns the favor by cutting off half of the whaling guy's arm.

All the Sci fi vehicle tech was so cool that I had to keep reminding myself It was being used for genocide. And that's def on purpose. I grew up in the jingoistic post 9-11 world with games and movies glorifying and sanitizing the reality of american conquest. It was so intense then that me and many of peers wanted to enlist for reasons that had no bearing in reality. If you are my age you have only seen America's wealth be utilized for just what's happening in the movie. I hope that the later movies show more what life is like for humans off world.

I always used to wonder why Avatar re-releases made such a surprising amount of money, but then I rewatched it again before watching the sequel and it became instantly clear

Sun Tzu says about the The Way of Water - "If you want to live here,you must ride"

Oh fuck yes I been waiting for this. The first avatar episode was a light in a dark time for me.

I don't know if Avatar 2 was some transcendent piece of art or whatever but I went on a couple edibles and it's the only movie I've ever cried at. The whaling scene just hit in a way no other "sad" movie ever has.

This movie is beautiful and is a harbinger of international revolution. 3rd viewing tonight Imax 3d regal unlimited bitches

I saw a tweet were someone said james cameron was a real life equivalent of a Shonen protagonist since everyone was doubtful that he could make avatar 2 well he really believed In this movie.

Seems like most people like avatar, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Most people seem to like it save for two groups, marines and ex military dudes, which makes sense to me. Then certain segments of the online left, which doesn’t. People seem legitimately mad or think they’re being trolled by Chapo because they like it? I do not see you.

personally, i thought there was an underwhelming amount of water. i expected WAY more water, so i'm taking off one bag from my score.

Damn i wanted more tulsa king

Little did they know. The big blue dommy mommy memes would continue till morale improved.

RIP Gangsta Boo

Matt has taken the SincerityPill

Avatar: honey they abducted the kids

Could've used 20 more minutes of Payakan/Luak spirit bro shit instead if rhe endless drowning.

Didn't know I am not supposed to like Glass Onion. Slamming billionaires is fun.

All I want to be is El Chapo

To all the naysayers who claim Avayar has no “cultural relevance” and no memes about it, it’s because it’s a true work of art that has to be met with respect, experienced in one’s own mind on a personal level. Like the mighty Tulkun, you can’t just drill into the movie and extract the meme juice

I do like listening to this but I feel like these guys fleshed out Cameron’s ideas better than Cameron himself. For example, they make Quaritch coming back sound deeper than it is or likely ever will be. In the movie, it felt like a way to just bring him back because why not? However, him not dying at the end made perfect sense.

Will Menakur doing the Rod Dreher soyface but over a bowl of Avatar Blu-Rays

I don't think Quaritch will switch sides but I definitely think he'll refuse a human body again if offered. I think what's most likely gonna happen is terraforming Pandora fails, so instead they're gonna make human/Na'vi hybrids which are essentially just blue humans with the head-tail who can breathe pandora air, but the upper elites will get full Na'vi bodies.

I was skeptical of Chapo’s Avatar love until some guys wanted to go see the new one, so I saw the original online and the Way Of Water the next day. I was absolutely blown away, they were not joking about how great these movies are. The creature design in particular I think doesn’t get enough love because it’s fantastic across the board, but especially in the second one. Absolutely looking forward to 3.

Evidence for Quaritch switching that they missed/didn’t bring up: When he finds his old body as a skeleton in the jungle, he remove the skull and examine it longingly, then crushes it in his palm in what seems to be disgust. To me this is him truly realizing that he as he is now is superior to his former self. He is also the most willing to try things the “native” way when on his journey to find Jake, taking joy in it in a way the other jarheads don’t.

So I’m not shocked at all that they liked this tbh. I’ve never had any love for the series up until I saw the first movie recently. (In fact, I saw it for the first time the night before I saw the second one) I LIKED the first one enough. Just a basic natives versus colonizer story with some alien love in there with amazing visual effects. But then I saw Way of Water in theaters and I liked that one way more than the first one. The effects are way better and I liked this story infinitely more than the first one. Kiri really stood out to me as a character more than Jake Sully and Stephen Lang’s Quaritch was a joy to watch. It definitely left a bigger impact on me than anything Marvel as made recently.

I think it hit me where this conclusion is going. Now that these Marines are undead Avatars, their memories including deaths can be recorded by Ewa and not humanity, and that can be weaponized at a certain threshold. How many visceral memories of your own painful death would it take for you to give up?

lmao at reddit absolutely melting down over avatar in the comments of this

Contrarian redditors in the comment section showcasing their superiority by dismissing sincerity and earnestness because it's more comforting to embrace lame irony, pathetic!

Lmao I love that Matt manifested white guilt from this movie and he can't explain why

Explosive tipped harpoons used to be a real thing.

I think the tulkans can use their second smaller set of eyes to better see things through the wavy surface (either from below up or reverse). They have a secondary sample that is slightly offset from primary and can use their big brains to apply a sort of correction to the image to minimize the noise caused by the chaotic surface lensing.

I have been a VFX supervisor for many years. It is both an inspired and very troubled industry. I think it is one of the great labor battle grounds of our time, where incredible images are created often at the expense of atists' health and family well being. This movie was made by the incredible vfx company Weta Digital. They developed the ability to make this movie over the last 25 years on LOTR. king Kong. Avatar 1.0 , Planet of the Apes, etc. To say James Cameron had anything to do with the quality of the FX is deeply disrespectful to the masterful LABOR that went into this. Weta could have achieved these results with any director. What Cameron provided was the clout and financial backing to buy Weta the time to not rush the process, which is rare.

So where is Sylvester Stallone or am I in the wrong place?

showed up late to my first vewing, missed like the first 20 minutes but Cameron knows how to tell a story I didn't have trouble catching up.

I love listening to these geeks

out for 8 hours and Content ID already cut the music from the movie from this

I finally know what to think about this movie

ya this movie is just too deep for my small mind to comprehend

IT'S ABOUT TIME! I just got out of seeing Avatar The Way of Water for the 123243 time and listened to this before going in. Truly an epic that makes you go how the fuck did Big Jim do that? several times over. I see you Big Jim at the Oscars

Am I trippin' or were the Navi not so subtlely "height-adjusted" in their scenes with Spider?

Sigourney Weaver is the best actress of all time for pulling off that performance as Kiri

🐳🐋

Why do so many people think this praise of avatar is ironic or joking? Has passion died? Has the immortal soul of the mortal withered away into dust? Shame on all the nay sayers found here, liberate your mind or perish alongside all the rest.

The whole movie is an allegory for adrenochrome harvesting

Avatar 1 Mechs were more MechWarrior, not Armored Core.

pandora pilled

have not listened to the episode yet but this comment section seems so fucking cynical

I can’t go see Avatar 2 because it will make me depressed I don’t live in an anarchist commune paradise or have have a 10 ft tall blue qt alien gf 😢

why don't the humans just drop those forest clearing incinerators on every na'vi settlement?

Jesus fucking christ FINE I will go and see it. This had better not be a fucking bit.

I would like to see Chapo review Redacted 2007 the ultimate anti military movie.

An eternity of CoD sounds like the lives of WingsofRedemption or OUMB2

If you put another persons memories in another body, is it truly the same person or a second new person?

They really "missed a trick" by overlooking the opportunity of giving Sully his own personal theme song (for us all to identify with) which of course would be a slightly modified version of the old "Village People's" homage to cultural appropriation, 🎵 "IN THE NA-VI" ! 🎶 ( you can make it if you're BLUE...can't believe it but it's TRUE...this can happen to YOU ! ... etc.)

Coffee was the fuel of colonialism

The Ilu remind me of Pinnacarids from Subnautica: Below Zero.

Even after all the episodes where they talk about Avatar, I still CANNOT tell if their liking it so much is a bit or not and if you ask me that was the real lesson of avatar all along.

I think we might actually see "regular" navii. A marine's training in an avatar body is a potent combination. Will there be a navii with knowledge of human science and technology, or are they viewed in fundamental opposition? There are a few key things happening that parallel what amounts to an alternate history of Westward expansion. In particular unification of the indigenous American population. I have believed for a while that the preserve or "reservation" system, given to many separate tribes across the U.S. was a method of erasure. Instead of a single comingling of many tribal identities they are sparsely scattered and dying. In 100 years I think there may be nothing left but pictures. In trying to remain what they were in the old times they can't evolve or adapt. They are crumbling Polaroids. Yet that is the intent of the system, of "cultural preservation" to keep them as they were until they die. The world tree mega mind seems to have a capacity to infuse all the navii with detailed knowledge and understanding. So I think that is how they will revise the history to give a collective Native American culture Western knowledge/tech, but from an outside perspective so they aren't poisoned by that thinking. In the end if the navii survive in a way that isn't slow extermination then they will change and adapt. The way of water. The way of change. Lastly, Will has it close to right for me. However it's not enough to be willing to die, you have to expect to die and to be completely owned. I remember a teacher talking about being willing to kill but also willing to die if joining the military. It's like killing? Sure whatever check. Dying? Heroically like a cool martyr? Mmm asterisk. However I'm sure Vietcong that saw their homes burn for days, and Taliban that saw hills and mountains that had stood for a million years imploded, knew they would die. Not maybe, but 100%, and with no book or movie to remember their name. It's s completely different I think, to go into something knowing you will die. The one other thing I'd like to see from a movie about war, is that all war, real war that can only be waged by civilisation with specialization, are won by rice. Any movie about war shows the fighting of soldiers. Yet every soldier must be fed, their machine must be fueled and weapons repaired. The more advanced the army the more complex the logistical needs and the more intensive the base most unit to make war. The war should be lost offscreen because they literally just don't have the fuel to send anymore armadas to Pandora*. I enjoyed the first movie but assumed they were bullshitting because everyone else seemed to think it was goofy. Glad Felix converted them.

I like the thumbnail

This sold the shit out of it to me, buying a ticket tomorrow

I had mixed feelings about 1. It was still good though. Guess I'll see 2!

What would James Cameron do?

LOWTAX FINALLY FIXED SEARCH HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALMAO

Third movie is gonna have the Colonel leading a tribe of Navi.

I think my favorite sequence in the movie was when the humane came back and it was shown in no uncertain terms that they were bringing Hell with them. As the humans landed, they burned and destroyed the forests and wildlife in that area. We are meant to view this as the literal desecration of the Divine.

It's easy to build and expand on the first Avatar since it was so simplistic, thematically speaking.

Wow, this episode is getting some pretty strong reactions in the comments. I'm fine either way. I think I'm one of seven people left that never watched the original Avatar. Nothing against it, just too much hype for anything kills my boner. Well, I guess it's gonna be another decade before I can give it a try.

What if there was a group of sh*tlib Tulkun whales, called the "Pod Johns"? I'll see myself out.

It's big in thumbnail

I also felt like glass onion was a bunch of things Rian Johnson wanted to tweet, glad they said it.

I'm a discreet individual

Rian Johnston doesn’t deserve the heat he’s getting😂

Abna wa abna Sons, nephews, and daughters?

I never watched OG Avatar because I am afraid of the "post-Avatar depression". I really don't need another depression to pile up on the three or four I already have.

I'm just going to download this movie into my brain

So glad to hear Lowtax is in this movie. I hope he can use a portion of the proceeds to fix his spine

Live Forever as You Are Now -Adult Swim infomercial skit (and KZfaq video) I'm reminded of the old greats. James C is a giant standing on the shoulders of giants. Based Lefty memes.

Glass Onion was reference hell

The only thing I disagree with Matt on here is that Clement is indeed returning in the sequal, and with a mechanical arm no less, but not as Ahab, he's coming back as Paul Watson and will be leading the Sea Shepherd/Greenpeace human faction.

1xbet!!

Just putting it out there- maybe he was speaking poetically, but it’s something a lot of people literally misunderstand: no, we are not just our memories. We are a conscious subjectivity- an observer. Our memories, thoughts, feelings, sense experiences, etc., isn’t our actual SELF any more than our address or our phone number or our favorite color is. It’s information about us, it’s part of our mind, but our mind & ego & beliefs & persona (the narratives & facts we believe about our identity as an individual)- all of these are objects of conscious awareness… Things we observe, which therefore are not the observer itself… That conscious awareness which actually can look at all of those things is our true self. But it would still really suck to have a military corporation own the contents of our minds, memories or otherwise. I only think it’s worth mentioning because identifying with the ego, with the contents of the mind, rather than recognizing that you are actually the observer who observes all of that (happening to you as much as being a part of you) is literally ego involvement/Maya (the illusion of separateness & alienated individuality that a lot of traditions would argue [I think quite soundly] is really the source of suffering, the thing that keeps us reactive, short-sighted, ensnared in the pain & difficulties associated with the material world). Given that he’s talking about spiritual liberation & release in this context, it’s kind of an important distinction to clarify, because if you think you have transcended, but the thing you think is the true self, is liberation, is actually still just part of ego, is actually still just part of the illusion, then… Well, that famous quote about how none are more enslaved than those who falsely believe they’re free pretty much describes it. In the extreme it can lead to full-on solipsism. People convincing themselves that they’ve transcended, that they’re seeing the deepest nature of reality, & that all it is is their own personal ego & memories & preferences… That everyone else are just philosophical zombies- automata, NPCs populating their own personal imagination… That isn’t transcendence- it’s the most profound form of self-delusion.

Another banger.