Tuning the Honda Civic Type R with Hondata and Bolt Ons! Baseline & Custom Tune Dyno Results

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5 жыл бұрын

Our client Danny brought us his FK8 Honda Civic Type R to put it on the dyno and get some baseline power numbers stock and with the Hondata Flash Pro OTS Mapping. We also had OnPoint Dyno do a custom tune for the vehicle stock to compare to the OTS mapping. We found the OTS mapping to be aggressive for our fuel and we were able to make the same power with less boost. Post baseline numbers we installed a Takeda Intake, AFE catted downpipe, and Invidia Catback Exhaust to remove some of the restrictions of the OEM components. We also installed a Koyo Radiator in the car to improve cooling efficiency when the car hits the track!
We put the car in the capable hands of OnPoint Dyno after the installation to dial in the tuning for the new parts and we saw some great increases in power over the baseline numbers. We also identified what was holding back the car from making it's peak power. These items included fuel quality and charge air cooling primarily. The vehicle came in running 91 octane which is okay for a stock vehicle but we strongly advise running 93/94 octane for any turbocharged modified vehicle. The charge air cooling can also be improved with an upgraded front mounted intercooler as the ECU uses charge air temperature to adjust the tuning quite aggressively. If we can keep the charge air temps lower we can make more power for longer.
Baseline Stock Dyno - 272WHP & 312WTQ
Baseline OTS Hondata Mapping Dyno - 295WHP & 345WTQ (24.5PSI
OnPoint Custom Tune No Mods - 295WHP & 345WTQ (21.5PSI)
OnPoint Custom Tune w/ Mods - 310WHP & 364WTQ
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@michaelblankenship7278 5 жыл бұрын

"There it is the quiet purr of the exhaust," as the music plays over it.

@unknownff15 4 жыл бұрын

Super informative video. Sashas breakdown on lowering the boost makes complete sense.

@pedrorivera2308 2 жыл бұрын

That Dyno is siiick 👀💪

@josiahbutler2254 4 жыл бұрын

it started off with 270 WhP and now 310 Whp, im highly impressed, honda never disappoints 🤗🤗

@b-conn6624 5 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to slap this tune on my Accord.

@emmadeeba2038 5 жыл бұрын

Drooling during this video! Really want one!

@jhezrylgundran2495 5 жыл бұрын

I’m starting to save up for one right now. My end goal is to pay it off in full by 2021. I’m screwed but I’m also Asian so I got this.

@emmadeeba2038 5 жыл бұрын

Jhezryl Gundran I’m so tempted too. I’ve got an absolute mint facelift ep3 with only 50k on the clock. I’m really thinking about letting it go to put towards a deposit on an fk8

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

From what we have observed these cars are really fantastic as track cars and they are reasonably comfortable too!

@damianpeter80 4 жыл бұрын

Bro that is so on point now i want that for mine

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

We can definitely help you with the upgrades if you'd like.

@damianpeter80 4 жыл бұрын

You guys are in Canada correct

@brentrudacille4672 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for mine to arrive today, I'm switching to Flashpro for the traction control. Sold my Ktuner last night.

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new car!

@V1ZFN 4 жыл бұрын

Woa... that exhaust is SEXY...love the sound too

@inferiorsinister 4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully get my Type R by this summer or early fall. I’ve been in love since its inception

@Shane-zx4ps 4 жыл бұрын

Inception

@abc.garage 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to tune my car, I look forward to hp and tq gains!

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

You won't regret it!

@em1ownerify 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t tune it!! I need to be able to beat it ;)

@footballfan7894 2 жыл бұрын

Sti owner here and these type R are dope. I would love to own a type r and an evo.

@A4ANT 4 жыл бұрын

I was disappointed to not find many FK2 tuning vids, then I remembered they share the same engine with FK8’s Woohoooo

@aikensbrown866 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video

@jamesc9897 4 жыл бұрын

That car is so sick

@luigitouchette421 4 жыл бұрын

I have a civic si HFP coupe with the same exhaust 😍 just fantastic

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@kseries27 5 жыл бұрын

Good upgrade video

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@755hp 3 жыл бұрын

Great video

@DoubleOSevan 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Darth Vader breathing with that intake haha. Gotta love the new CTR platform. Such a good dual duty street/track car.

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

It is such an awesome FWD platform!

@oraiosokypreos 5 жыл бұрын

Greetings fellow canadians! I am also from Ontario

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Greetings! 👊

@hongzihao8474 5 жыл бұрын

He definitely right, I’m getting only 16 psi boost pressure from my stock fk8 when I floor it now compare to 22-25 psi which was normal for winters

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

This is a good safety feature of the factory ECU and it will mean that keeping charge air temps down will be key for making power in the summer.

@vroomn_fk8 5 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning I installed a mishimoto intake and intercooler, no tune yet. I noticed my psi is only at 15-16 at max. I live at 5000 ft elevation and ambient temps have been around 75-85 lately. Is the psi low because the car is able to get cold air more easily?

@hongzihao8474 5 жыл бұрын

I’m getting only 13 psi now with 104 degrees exterior temperature, feels like a 1.5T civic when I floor it. LOL

@jeffpesos6554 5 жыл бұрын

This car looks good in black. Minimizes those fake air vents

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

The black does look amazing

@lbcitylacounty4982 4 жыл бұрын

Wished they get rid of the fake stuff! Or make a better design front and back bumpers painted 🤔

@stunna6572 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a shame the whole civic lineup looks better in black because of them but in my opinion the black ones actually look sick

@letd1995 4 жыл бұрын

2020 they don’t be fake anymore and 2 piece front rotors

@jaymee212 4 жыл бұрын

Luis Tavarez legit?

@Ashes_Eternal 4 жыл бұрын

those lowering springs were the biggest power adder

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Clearly the springs add a good amount of power ;)

@PiterStreak 5 жыл бұрын

my tuner has tuned a few of these and he's been able to get them to 360-380whp. he says upgrade number 1 for those cars is hands down an intercooler.

@Maroco918 5 жыл бұрын

He probably didnt correct for altitude

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

The limitation is the fuel, 91 octane, and the intercooler. With these 2 changes the power change is even more drastic.

@aneesgasant7916 4 жыл бұрын

You guys should look at Clown Performance in Cape Town, took a fk2 from its 228kw to 300kw using normal pump gas with some Bolton's and tuning with Hondata.

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Anees, check out our follow up video which shows the true potential with the 94 Octane and intercooler upgrade.

@CSIG1001 4 жыл бұрын

Hello are you running "disable EGT in hondata"?

@jakethesnake1503 4 жыл бұрын

I switched to 94 on my stock WRX and noticed abig difference just in drivability. I wonder if tuning a WRX is the same as in min fuel changes with timining and boost ajustments needed. Im trying to build my WRX around the stock tune but the stock tune has a mind of its own. Makes ever pull feel a bit different in everyday driving. Then the 3-4k dip... Just go damn you.

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah on 94 octane the car will be able to maximize power. The ECU on the WRX is very aggressive with timing changes. Getting a COBB AccessPORT will fix a lot of the minor issues.

@JIMMY_NEMESIS 5 жыл бұрын

would be great if you have links where you shop the parts! if it's you that bought them...love the Invidia sound, which one is that? I want that in my CTR I see ice on the street, still June freezing in Ontario? here nxt to Montreal is warm as hell...just kidding probably filmed back then

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Here is the link to that catback exhaust - tougetuning.com/shop/invidia-r400-cat-back-exhaust-w-titanium-tips-2017-2019-honda-civic-type-r/ We are working on adding parts every week on our website. Not all the parts are online now and can be purchased by emailing us at Sales@TougeTuning.Com.

@nick_romeo 4 жыл бұрын

Tell me if I'm wrong but You can hear the compressor surging as it just starts tipping into boost? the compressors on these things must be small like 13g small a drop in turbo would serve these things we'll is my guess

@endercozy9578 4 жыл бұрын

Colder air is much more dense, than hot air. Ramming those extra dense cooler air will cause a lean mixture environment, that's why the ecu is dumping fuel to compensate. That's why the fuel pump is out of breathe, technically you cannot put a bigger turbo and fuel pump or else you will risk over heating. Remember the manifold is one with the block, if you crack those manifold with the cooling lines say bye bye to the engine.. The Honda engineers know so well what's the limitations of that engine..

@ThaVoodoo1 4 жыл бұрын

Here in Australia our highest pump fuel is 98 RON = 93 PON in the USA.

@sukajaa6426 4 жыл бұрын

john reece in malaysia we got ron100 &97

@jojo-cx4cn 4 жыл бұрын

In malaysia Fk8 very famous car.

@sleepy2jz68 3 жыл бұрын

Look at that tourque 👀

@iron-iw2ij 4 жыл бұрын

What are the specs on the lowering springs??? Please advise

@mrluvus07 5 жыл бұрын

Vtec turbo sticker add another 50hp.

@Mcfc2Rich 5 жыл бұрын

Technically 76.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

At least that much

@lbcitylacounty4982 4 жыл бұрын

Stickers are Honda's signature don't hate lol 😂 Ricer baby! 😛

@jpizel1070 4 жыл бұрын

That joke has gotten stale.

@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын

that doesn't sound right to me, doesn't make sense at all. No way you would ever get more than 10hp and that's probably at the crank!

@oldman6487 2 жыл бұрын

On the hunt for Jakes Scoobydo STI

@YTkingcherry 3 жыл бұрын

What I wanna do to my 21 CTR is all PRL bolt (intake, inlet pipe, front and down pipe, charge pipes and inter cooler) ons and invidia r400 exhaust and a tune see how much that will make

@df9834 5 жыл бұрын

This guy Noes his shit 👌

@ejamejam1576 5 жыл бұрын

Nice car...i love vtec turbo...power full car....

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@ejamejam1576 4 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning welcome...

@bigdisme5622 5 жыл бұрын

I mean all in all, the car is tuned safer, putting out a little extra power over stock, so well done.

@ravenstylea2 4 жыл бұрын

How does it feel with the lowering springs?

@geforceginger 4 жыл бұрын

Which drop kit is that? The pro or the sport?

@kevinu6004 5 жыл бұрын

This almost ghastly design doesn't look too bad murdered out!!

@xplizitremix 3 жыл бұрын

Is the OTS maps from hondata ok with 94 octane from Petro Can?

@ommeking 5 жыл бұрын

sick bro. just picked up my ctr a month ago and thinking of getting hondata. what would you recommend as a conservative yet noticeable upgrade? id like to have the car sound a lot nicer too. i live in new jersey with highs of 95f and lows of 20f.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

An inter cooler and catback exhaust would probably be a good starting point. Intake and down pipes if you wanted to squeeze out a bit more power. The intake is responsible for the whoosh noise off throttle too. Of course we recommend a dyno tune as well!

@tommyly5019 5 жыл бұрын

isn't the whoosh noise from the blow out valve?

@JohnS-vr3yx 5 жыл бұрын

hmmmm my fk8 on ktuner base OTS maps stage 1 with DP , Intercooler, intake and straight pipe makes 345whp... on 94 octane.. Do you guys do ktuner pro tunes as well?

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

We don't offer tuning with KTuner at this time. Your power numbers on 94 with those mods seems good although if it's on a different Dyno the numbers would be lower on ours.

@jtoyz6050 4 жыл бұрын

Which brand gas are you running?

@chewsrise9439 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. Can Hondata or other tuning for FC5 1.6 non turbo?

@peturthorbergsson20 4 жыл бұрын

I have seen video where type R does not make that much power with all these expensive changes. The only thing that seams to be the killer power is the hondata flashpro. I like to buy Honda type R and put hondata flashpro in it. That seams to be a killer car. I might buy louder mufflers to get more sound out of this killer car although it will probably not make more power. Grate car.

@matthewmoss5928 4 жыл бұрын

Went to my local Honda dealer and inquired about the Type R...Guy told me they don’t allow test drives. Have you heard this before?

@chrishansen7004 4 жыл бұрын

I think avoid that dealer, that shit seems suspicious af

@snazari1994 4 жыл бұрын

It’s true. They don’t

@matthewmoss5928 4 жыл бұрын

@@snazari1994 Feel like maybe a bigger dealership might, but kinda tough to compare cars and be willing to spend close to 50K CAD after taxes without even driving the car lol

@snazari1994 4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Moss I have buddies working at dealerships and they were telling people would come jus to drive it around without any plans to abually buy the car.

@matthewmoss5928 4 жыл бұрын

@@snazari1994 Yea I get that, just sucks for the people that are serious about it.

@urielgomez4622 5 жыл бұрын

15 hp wt??

@260kappa 5 жыл бұрын

can you guys do this dyno again with 94 octane fuel

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

We have a video set to come out shortly with 94 Octane and some other upgrades. If you haven't already subscribed, do so and you will be notified when it gets released :)

@jonthecowboy 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly late to seeing this video, but if you’re tracking the car, why lowering springs just curious?

@christianmariano3278 4 жыл бұрын

why is it 272 whp when stop is 306

@chaserevstuning9271 5 жыл бұрын

14whp gain from a stock tune makes it rather blah but the torque gains are impressive. Torque is what Honda wanted to get the car out of the turns, the engine does just that.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

It made 38whp over stock, not 14whp. Thanks for the comment

@chaserevstuning9271 5 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning talking about the tune from flashpro completely stock. Before the power adders. 294 with just flashpro. The tune made the biggest difference imo

@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 4 жыл бұрын

Touge Tuning nope u are wrong

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

@@chaserevstuning9271 yes the tuning made the biggest change in this case.

@johnriggins9325 4 жыл бұрын

Recently tuned my Focus RS and made similar gains, base was around 280 on 92. Just a tune got me 330 hp but it’s torque under the curve that really changes how a car feels. The intercooler right now is the limiting factor and it will be the next thing changed. I love the type R especially in black because it makes it more “subtle”... if you can say that about a CTR.

@yuuki1538 3 жыл бұрын

i thought the civic type r had 306 whp stock?

@isabelle.c011 4 жыл бұрын

A lot of similarities with all the 2.0 turbo gdi st,gti,si

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

That's correct Nancy, a lot of the small displacement 4-cylinder turbo platforms will require similar modifications and strategies.

@1fast10r 2 жыл бұрын

Numbers are always higher on those dinos that don't actually run with your wheels on the Vehicle

@jamesmcintoshjr 4 жыл бұрын

can you guys supply the OnPoint tune with a hondata purchase? just wondering :)

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

We provide custom tuning with Xenocron tuning. We don't provide anything but custom tunjng.

@jTamayo34 5 жыл бұрын

Why does this car not sound aggressive when you rev to redline? Even with an aftermarket exhaust the sound doesnt change much from stock.

@kevkellius3647 5 жыл бұрын

805_S2K That’s whats turning off a lot of buyers /:

@msalazar89 5 жыл бұрын

Invidia exhaust sounds like garbage on these cars. Hks legamax is legit

@chaseteter 5 жыл бұрын

Turbos don’t help with an aggressive sound either

@louiemarquez2074 4 жыл бұрын

How much the setup cost for the type r the intake exhaust hondata intecooler??

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Pricing varies depending on the options/bands selected. We can provide you with an estimate if you get in touch with us Louie.

@zacharyparis 5 жыл бұрын

Boss.

@darienwalker7635 4 жыл бұрын

Hows the stock baseline 272 hp? Doesn't this car come with 306hp from the factory??

@bMPtuning01 4 жыл бұрын

272 wheel horsepower

@josiahbutler2254 4 жыл бұрын

Darien Walker crank horse power, crank my friend, wheel horsepower is how much is brings to the wheels, from 272 to 310 is good as hell with just mods & tune, honda is undefeated my friend 😍😍

@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын

For those talking shit on the K20C1 and comparing to a GTI saying the GTIs get like 80-100hp need to actually understand what is going on with the tune and the difference between the K20C1 and the EA888. This is actually really impressive gaining 15 WHP with just a few better flowing bolt on parts and on 2 psi less than factory. Try turning the boost down on a GTI and see what happens..

@YuriTTF 5 жыл бұрын

What are BOLT ONS?

@msalazar89 5 жыл бұрын

Tits

@AngryTango 4 жыл бұрын

I would never pay so much for a civic

@user-fq2dw2yk9j 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!! But in the video u guys didn't mention anything about the jailbreak (unlock ecu ) Do u have to take the ecu out and sent it to somewhere to get unlock(jailbreak) before u replace the downpipe ?

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Hey that is correct you do need to send the ECU for unlocking. This was done prior to the video.

@user-fq2dw2yk9j 5 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning still amazing video !!!!!! Thanks for sharing

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

@@user-fq2dw2yk9j Thanks so much no problem, we will be trying to put up as many videos as we can this year!

@PurpleHeartVR 5 жыл бұрын

Jail break? uhhhhhhh

@davothegreat9990 5 жыл бұрын

@@PurpleHeartVR the ecu would be software protected preventing upgrades. Jailbreak is to remove this software or disable it.

@ryanainlay224 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like fucking Darth Vader. So cool.

@kmsti8677 4 жыл бұрын

I'll take a Civic Type R over a new STi and I've always been a Subie guy since 2006.

@j4559 4 жыл бұрын

same here!

@steve9348 2 жыл бұрын

Hondas are reliable and suburus ain’t ..

@mgawna1684 4 жыл бұрын

Does this void the warranty?

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Warranty would be up to the manufacturer to determine.

@6ixshotit81 4 жыл бұрын

How do you make the turbo whistle louder

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

A Downpipe and intake make for great turbo sounds ;)

@6ixshotit81 4 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning thank u!

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

No problem at all

@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr 4 ай бұрын

That man definitely needs to go bald already he is hanging on for dear life 😂

@boostercontrol100 5 жыл бұрын

Really nice car man I know 91 octane but turn down from stock boost? Only 15whp from intake, dp and cb? Something not seem rite.

@boostercontrol100 5 жыл бұрын

@@amordeweso I know plus turning the boost down from stock boost leval after letting the turbo breath with the dp, cb and intake. Makes no sense to me.

@1stock1not 5 жыл бұрын

I know in the past civics in Japan made the most stock hp then America and Africa then places such as Canada. Idk if this is still the case but mayhaps.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Boost was turned down for safety and proper tuning. Cranking up the boost is not the right way to make more power. Proper ignition timing with lower boost is the right way to do things. Especially with 91 octane and the stock intercooler this is the correct method of tuning this platform.

@boostercontrol100 5 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning Ah cool where you getting knock the stock boost leval? I thought stock boost supposed to be conservative but idk about the type r. For example on a stock mazdaspeed 3 the boost is set at 15.6psi. You can easily turn it up to 17 to 20psi without knock especially with and intake and turboback exhaust so the turbo can breath. I know 91 is a limitation.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

@@boostercontrol100 the OTS mapping was too aggressive for the 91 octane fuel and it was pulling timing.

@BvtecturboEKHATCH 4 жыл бұрын

Awd doesnt matter if u put a sticker or not 8.51 in 1/4

@ravenstylea2 4 жыл бұрын

From the tests I’ve seen, all the intakes for the new type R actually lose hp over stock

@CJax749 4 жыл бұрын

Eventuri and injen absolutely do not

@luthersullivan5141 4 жыл бұрын

They do lose power because without a high glow exhaust/cat or headers. Where is the air going to go? Tune/exhaust/intake, thats recipe

@Kurosaki990Ichigo 5 жыл бұрын

I would never visit a Dyno having 91 octane in my car.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

We strongly advise running the highest octane fuel that is readily available to the owner.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

We'll have a follow up with 94 octane numbers and more upgrades soon.

@petrolhead8851 5 жыл бұрын

Why not? Some people can only get a hold of 91oct

@bigdisme5622 5 жыл бұрын

I added a 3.2L Kenne Bell uusing 91 octane to my '15 Mustang GT. So you think going to a Dyno was a bad idea for me? LOL :)

@PR1NCETD0T 5 жыл бұрын

Venom Svt exactly lol, i use shell v power 91 oct for my Z, if i could get a hold of 93 or higher i would. But i heard 94 octane at esso has a bit of ethanol which burns a lot quicker.

@tomatoknuckles 5 жыл бұрын

The lowering springs defo added 10bhp😂

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

That's all?

@Canyon_Shawn 4 жыл бұрын

Tomatoknuckles Stiffer springs will make a noticeable difference to acceleration. You lose HP through soft springs.

@troublezzzz 5 жыл бұрын

We have better mapping systems in the uk for fk2 and fk8 type R’s. We map the Fk8 type R to 410bhp and 385 torque easily with minor mods. Number 1 problem in the US is the fuel ⛽️. Our minimum octane fuel is 95 and maximum is 99 in the UK. I guess that is the problem you guys have in the US

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Actually that is incorrect. Your 99 octane is equivalent to the 93-94 octane we have here in Canada and the USA. The ratings are done differently for octane in the UK vs. the US/Canada. BHP is measured at the flywheel where as the numbers we provided are at the Wheels or WHP.

@leekirk4493 5 жыл бұрын

Was wondering why there is a difference between us/uk ratings thanks for that answer.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

@@leekirk4493 no problem!

@Bigbacon 3 жыл бұрын

should have did one with just the mods and no tune.

@franciscocruz6726 5 жыл бұрын

So to the wheels it has on or about 280whp and 330 tq.

@WeirdBrick 5 жыл бұрын

No that was WHP! 270 stock 310 after! Not great by any means!

@esantiago8989 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting how you came to that conclusion seeing as they are testing whp....

@franciscocruz6726 5 жыл бұрын

@@esantiago8989 they are not testing wheel horsepower, they are testing axle power since there are no wheels anywhere in this dyno.

@Canyon_Shawn 4 жыл бұрын

Are the bolt ons California smog legal?

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Some of them are CARB legal yes.

@TheMgiorivera 4 жыл бұрын

Hondata proved that takeda Intake and other brands dont make power for the type r. Stock had better numbers !

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

We do find on many modern cars an intake is not going to make more power until the exhaust and charge air cooling limitations are resolved.

@andrewsalas7774 5 жыл бұрын

All that for 15whp? That's a very expensive(I imagine) 15hp yikes

@joescivic 5 жыл бұрын

If you want power mods, best thing to get is a tuning software like Hondata.

@ambiently_occluded7154 5 жыл бұрын

It's due to the low octane fuel and air temps. He had to lower boost to make power and be safe on 91 octane

@JohanSalvattore 5 жыл бұрын

Not really, there’s a lot of factors involved. Better fuel and bigger inter cooler would put this car at plus 30-40 whp more than these gains

@madproficient2718 5 жыл бұрын

It’s actually 38whp from stock pull.

@thepassionofthegoose5472 4 жыл бұрын

It's where and how the machine makes power. With the addition of upgrades and the new radiator this thing will be better on-track, and it's already great from stock. $$$ very well spent, IMHO.

@YukoKurama59 4 жыл бұрын

I thought the fk8 Type R came bone stock with 306 hp?...

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

It does come with 306HP at the engine which is closer to around 260 at the front wheels.

@YukoKurama59 4 жыл бұрын

So it’s advertised as a FWD car with 306 hp but it’s more like 260 at the front wheels?. So the extra 46 hp goes towards the back wheels? Idk if that’s true or not but that’s kinda sad. Why couldn’t Honda make the FK8 type R 306 hp at the front wheels ? . I may sound clueless and I kinda am. I’m just starting to do some research about some stuff regarding tuning cars sorry I’m just curious because I absolutely love this Honda type R

@joshuaguevara1309 4 жыл бұрын

Caleb Rayner drive train loss happens in all cars, not all the power makes it way to the wheels Dynos measure what is actually sent to the wheels The 46 doesn’t go to the back

@msalazar89 5 жыл бұрын

Needs a full 3 in downpipe and uppipe, wasted money going takeda

@TechWiz1983 5 жыл бұрын

You don’t need 3 in piping, 2.5 in is more than enough for 500whp. You’re just talking out of your ass.

@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын

@@TechWiz1983 actually when you do go 3" catless downpipe and 3" front pipe on a CTR and a tune you do gain a substantial amount. I know 2.5" is sufficient for that much but 3" does provide better results

@Oosh-Xbox 4 жыл бұрын

How much did it all cost ?

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Pricing varies depending on the parts used etc. We can definitely spec it out for you if you're interested in doing your Type R

@Oosh-Xbox 4 жыл бұрын

Touge Tuning thanks for the fast response , I’m stuck between a Type R or a Focas RS ... or a 2nd hand M3 or 2nd hand RS 3. I love the type R 19 plate so I’m just curious if the upgrade costs are worth it

@Mk5forLife 4 жыл бұрын

Just like every other honda,you need 5,000$ to squeeze 50hp. I own a 19 on red but also had the chance to TUNE my 2018 GTI and that thing only need an OTA tune and you instantly gain 80+hp!

@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын

K20C1 > EA888 any day, this is coming from someone who owned a MK7 GTI for 4 years...

@alekdamyanov375 3 жыл бұрын

GTIs are not pushing 24 psi from the factory. They are pushing more like 12, when you get a downpipe and stage 2 you're tuned for about 20-22 psi. This Civic Type R starts at 24psi from the factory and has a smaller turbo because it is designed for fast spool. If you pay attention to what goes on in the tuning here they end up with +15whp and 2 less psi than factory which is impressive for only throwing a couple of bolt on parts and tuning fuel and timing. Try turning down the boost of a GTI by 2psi and see what happens on the dyno then.

@Kai240i 4 жыл бұрын

A bolt-ons and pro-tuned type R only making 38whp more than stock? that's pretty disappointed for a turbo car. Most German cars make 80-100whp more than baseline with the same set up.

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

Most German cars making 80-100WHP gains are either 6-cylinder or severely detuned from the factory. Check out our second Type-R video which shows the true potential of the car with 94 octane and a couple other mods that make a huge change.

@CSIG1001 5 жыл бұрын

ethanol is key

@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast 5 жыл бұрын

Didn't he say high pressure pump is maxed already?

@chrisnevergrowold330 5 жыл бұрын

in canada its Methanol injection, we hardly have any ethanol stations in the whole country. 91 is "premium" and usually the best you can find. meth injection cleans you up to almost e30 levels.

@aiGeis 5 жыл бұрын

@@chrisnevergrowold330 I think meth is better than that (e30), but sure is a fair bit off e85, unless you're running multi-port or pre-compressor. Meth/water injection is very underrated in the States, and even with the large amounts of ethanol the country produces it still is fairly difficult to find readily available. I'm very fortunate to have had a station begin offering e85 within a few miles of me, whereas a year or so ago I would've had to travel 30 mins or better for a tank.

@CSIG1001 5 жыл бұрын

I fill up with e85 , 5 gallons 1.84gal, hondata e30 tune will give you 370hp 385tq.. use 91 octane , cos me 27.00 to drive 300 miles and I get combined 26 mpg I can hit 30 mpg high way

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

We'd love to have easy access to E30-E85!

@hillbillysportsman5818 4 жыл бұрын

Are these motors prone to oil dilution like the 1.5 motors?

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

We haven't seen any hard evidence of this yet.

@optimusprime6436 4 жыл бұрын

I'd never live at a place where 91 octane was the highest petrol availible. 93+ or nothing.

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

It would definitely be unfortunate to only have 91

@bman1668 4 жыл бұрын

E85 bro better than 93

@alexsanchez3720 5 жыл бұрын

Who names there tuner Sasha 😂

@thepassionofthegoose5472 4 жыл бұрын

If you think Canadian 91 is not great, then get yourself over to California. Our 91 is basically gas scented water with mud thrown in for good measure.

@st4nc3isf22 4 жыл бұрын

Finally honda gets on board with the turbos? People forget that Hondas first turbo engine was introduced on the 2006 Acura RDX. 2.3l Turbo producing 240hp & 260lb-ft. So Honda is not new to the turbo engines.

@TougeTuning 4 жыл бұрын

That's definitely not forgotten but the RDX wasn't exactly an enthusiast car that was modified in large numbers.

@cxbra 4 жыл бұрын

Thats what I was saying! Honda has 10+ years of modern turbo technology and did so to iron out reliability issues and get testing before making everything turbo. We will see a lot of small turbo engines in the future from Honda.

@christopherzhu8176 4 жыл бұрын

The statement was more to do with Honda's production enthusiast cars. There is definitely a change in philosophy here moving on from high revving, high compression, naturally aspirated engines for their performance production cars.

@Emilthehun 5 жыл бұрын

But guys why not hit up snow performance for water meth injection?

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

Water/Meth is not 100% safe and when the system fails the engine will detonate catastrophically

@Emilthehun 5 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning that's only if you add extra timing. I've been running water meth for over 10 years and never a problem. Its only like 500$ , you should give it a try. Cooler egt, happier engine.

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

@@Emilthehun that is true, it could be run as a safety measure only if you wanted it.

@Emilthehun 5 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning it adds tq at the wheels without a tune

@ginganinja4957 5 жыл бұрын

that amount of torque in a front wheel drive makes first and second almost useless

@TougeTuning 5 жыл бұрын

The front differential is pretty good from the factory on the Type-R

@chaserevstuning9271 5 жыл бұрын

Well the K20c1 does not have a typical kseries trans in it. It is very low geared for boost. It is actually a TL-S transmission that is water cooled to keep the trans from getting to hot from track use. Also has a LSD diff that is well balanced. Great traction control for a factory system. But longer gears really help with traction.

@ginganinja4957 5 жыл бұрын

@@TougeTuning i was considering putting the hondata tune in my accord 2.0t sport, but i just thought it would be too much power for the front tires. It's a pretty torquey engine already, and adding close to 100ft/lb would be amazing, except for my poor tires..I know we're talking about 2 different cars with different gearing, i was just curious how much this engine is capable of. thanks for the great vid

@andrzejmalyszko2758 5 жыл бұрын

I know much cheaper and more efficient turning method. This method will give you stock 308bhp and it's called 98 octane petrol. What a waste of time. Does anyone else feel the same way?

@chaseteter 5 жыл бұрын

Andrzej Malyszko Driving to the race track for fuel sounds neither cheap nor efficient. This isn’t Europe.

@WeirdBrick 5 жыл бұрын

That was whp and youre clearly talking crank!

@herpderp1662 5 жыл бұрын

Im actually very surprised and kinda disappointed. My FoRS is over 400 AWHP to the ground with full bolt ons and a 30 tune. I was considering trading it in for the honda if I can get over how stupid it looks, because the interior and build quality is so much better.

@joescivic 5 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you're looking for. Like Insaid in another comment here though, these numbers can vary depending on the type of dyno. Also, they could actually see better numbers if they used 93 octane instead of 91. But a front pipe on my Type R, tuned on a dynojet, made 344whp 371tq. A downpipe and intercooler later, it dyno'd 371whp while having my tuner keep it conservative. Not even full bolt ons and only 93 octane, and it made 371whp. Give it an exhaust, an intake, and tune it on e30, and you could have 400+easy. Fuel system is an issue right now with our cars though.

@Craiggg12345 5 жыл бұрын

keep the RS