On my evolution that I had, I had to take off the blade guard. The mechanism for lifting the guard consisted of a small screw and a washer as a rolling guide. And that constantly fell of its radius edge that it was supposed to roll along. And that made it get stuck. So there's some shortcuts made in the design of the evo. But i bought it from UK to sweden for like 350$ equiv, and thats cheap compared to the prices in sweden. And I was really happy with the way it performed. It makes small jobs snappy compared to saw in horizontal bandsaws. And it doesn't need coolant that you have to wipe of after each cut. Coolant plus dust equals messy paste of chips that gets everywhere.
@melgross6 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been doing metalworking for over 50 years, I’ve come across a lot of good, and bad, things about equipment. But in evaluating the thicknesses of parts, you have to keep in mind the difference in material. For aluminum, which the Evolution saw is made of, you need approximately three times the thickness to get the same strength, or rigidity. I’m certainly not saying that the DeWalt is better. That saw there seems knocked about, which isn’t that unusual for equipment in a professional environment. Secondly, when measuring runout, you REALLY need to measure it near the outer circumference of the blade, not near the middle. All blades, no matter how good, are dished slightly, and the big difference is at the edge, where sometimes, the brazing on of the teeth slightly warps the blade body. In addition, all blades have a slight wobble, a couple of thousands on a 14” blade is pretty good. Also, the arbor has some wobble, which should not be more than about 2 thou. But when combined, the total could be 4 though, on a good product. I’ve got a way of fixing g most of that. I mark the blade at 90 degrees around. I mark the arbor at one point, and align one mark. I then tighten it correctly, and manually spin it around, being careful not to push the blade to the side. I move the blade through all of the marks, and measure. One of them will show less wobble, and one will show more. I mark which mark, or even between two, that shows the least wobble, and always mount the blade with that mark aligned with the mark on the arbor. That takes most of the wobble (or runout) out of the cut. I hope that was useful.
@raulduke856 жыл бұрын
Mel Gross the evo saw made out of alumnium (not aluminum cmon)? You must be kidding. The base and the vise of the Raptor are cast iron made. I have 1 and I know; infact It weights something like 28 kg.
@melgross6 жыл бұрын
My saw is 50 pounds, and is cast aluminum.. the vise is steel. Metal is heavy, no matter what it is. If the saw base was cast iron, it would weigh even more. Maybe your vise is cast iron, and you’re assuming the base is too.
@v8trauma6 жыл бұрын
The evo base is aluminium with a ferrous insert, probably mild steel.
@BobbyOfEarth3 жыл бұрын
I've had my EvoLution Rage 2 for several years and its been a solid tool and a worthwhile investment. Its heavy and ackward to move around but its built much like an industrial tool than the DeWalt, which actually has a higher retail price. The Evo is 62 lbs while the DeWalt is 47 lbs..
@GregsGarage7 жыл бұрын
Been using an EVO for a few months now. Uneven cuts seem to be normal. I believe its their blades. Dispite that, I love the saw.
@melgross6 жыл бұрын
Greg's Garage don’t always blame the blade. I find that the machines are often the major problem in that regard. If the back flange of the arbor which the blade sits against isn’t straight (exactly 90 degrees to the arbor), the blade will wobble, and cut mire like a wobble dado for wood. But since metal is far harder than wood, the cut can also be at an angle. If the arbor is too small in diameter, the blade won’t be centered, and just a few teeth will actually be cutting, and will wear out quickly. If the flange that goes on before the nut is a cheap pressing, it won’t be flat, and the blade could be bent when tightened. Also if it’s too large, the blade will be dished out, and if it’s too small, the blade will be dished in. It]f you tighten it too much, it will be worse, and can actually squash that cheap pressed flange. There’s so much more to this, but that’s enough for now.
@johnw45906 ай бұрын
Used chop saw with abrasive blades for years works great! These new saws good for quick small metal cutting. Clean precise for welding. Swivel bandsaw better option for wider range of cutting heavier steel tubing.
@AMetalWorks7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary for the plug. I truly appreciate it.
@1970chevelle3967 жыл бұрын
The problem I had with my Dewalt was that cheap vice would not stay in the right place when cutting. It would move a little bit when cutting 45's.
@chriss82065 жыл бұрын
You can adjust your saw to cut square. Adjust both vertical and horizontal.
@hawkdaddy646 жыл бұрын
I see where you've dropped steel on the DeWalt table due to distortion in the steel. If you want to do this fairly then you get two new machines and then judge, clearly yours has some heavy use.
@bigrick38344 жыл бұрын
I agree...
@mikemcdonough17936 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the Evolution from Amazon, I have the little one but like the Bigger one.
@tysonbally86284 жыл бұрын
I've been using Evolution blades for years. They last a lot longer when you oil them before you cut! The evolution saw is the best saw ever made👍
@acmegp4 жыл бұрын
Right up til the end where you noticed the buggered up threads, I was liking the evo but not after seeing those buggered threads. That indicates soft steel, not a high carbon hardened threaded rod like it should be. I bought a beat to hell ridgid saw that looks for all the work like an exact copy the the evo, or maybe it was made by evo for ridgid, who knows. Any way it has thread that look exactly like the evo but there is no quick release system. You just wind it in and out like the dewalt. I bought that saw for less then the cost of a new evo blade and the right angle gearbox on the ridgid saw is shot and screams. But even with an old blade with a tooth missing, she cuts steel like butter. I do heap lots of cutting oil on the old blade while cutting with it. When that old say blows up I will probably buy and evo but maybe not after seeing those buggered up threads right at the end. You should have contacted evo about that and then included their response in the video. No serious DIY home shop dude like me, and ex machinist who has a full machine shop in my garage is going to want that evo after seeing those damaged threads. As i said before that should have been a high carbon hardened threaded rod, not soft easily damaged threaded clamp rod like that. bummer....
@jonathangarzon27982 жыл бұрын
All thread replacement that big an issue for you?
@travishuberts64187 жыл бұрын
You are comparing a rotten apple to a fresh apple. The dewalt has seen abuse, not to mention a very well used blade. You can not compare a brand new saw to a old used saw
@santiagoramirezalvarez41256 жыл бұрын
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@waynesmith35266 жыл бұрын
Brb, gonna go buy a new car and compare it to my 20 year old car, I don't think the new car will be better than my 20 year old one though...
@randycastillo15905 жыл бұрын
😃
@hrautocustoms24684 жыл бұрын
Wayne Smith well it can be better depends on what are your requirements and keeping both are samw segments car and same or closer engine type say a 2litre inline 4. Ofcourse new one will be smoother and since its new it has new tyres whereas your 20 years one is still on some 4 years old tyres that have turned hard now and lost most of its tread and you tend to loose grip.
@jamestennimon99744 жыл бұрын
Dewalt chop saw tables are not flat. The abrasive saw is the same as this one
@frankensteincreations47402 жыл бұрын
Pitch on the blade and design of the carbide teeth is what changes the surface finish 👍 Awesome video!
@zip78065 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a Machinist reviews a Welders tool. Does is cut metal Well? Yes... Should you buy one? Yes... Was it worth the money? Yes...
@JoochJZL4 жыл бұрын
Have had them both. For my money, I prefer the evolution. However they are both good saws especially if used after using a cutoff saw
@stevegibbs721110 күн бұрын
Come back in 3yrs and see the difference between these results. My moneys on the DeWalt
@mikel91624 жыл бұрын
I think you will find the chatter marks are from the larger dia. blade. I have use a Evolutioin in the Knife Shop for years now. I bought a spare blade for it feeling it would fail quickly. I have never had to change the blade. I cut very tough and abrasive steels. ATS-34 and 154-CPM steels on it. Very impressive! KnifeMaker
@ron-namvet56514 жыл бұрын
The acme thread on the dewalt won't hold as tight as the fine threaded vise of the evolution. Acme just moves faster
@JonDingle3 жыл бұрын
Nope, you got that the wrong way around. An Acme screw thread is square to enhance clamping force. It is far and away stronger. Proof of that can be found in every good quality vice from a basic mechancis bench vice right up to high end machine vice. Fine threads or sharp peaked threads a similar or identical to bolts and can be stripped easily. Go check any vice, don't take my word for it.
@rodstephens66123 жыл бұрын
When you cut the bar you flipped it, changing the reference edge. When you measured it you maintained one reference edge. Unless you had milled both edges before the test, I would expect the result you got.
@bambambundy66 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky that nothing I do has to be that precise! I would have no trouble using either saw!!
@SYFGARAGE7 жыл бұрын
No matter how much better the saw is in general it doesn't matter if the screw gets screwed up after one use. Crazy
@turbocobra7 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the second time I used it, it bound up in the same way in a different spot and did something similar.
@turbocobra7 жыл бұрын
Wait, did I lose a sale by showing the screw issue ?
@SYFGARAGE7 жыл бұрын
no, price just went way down lol
@AMetalWorks7 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. Not sure what's going on with your threads but mine have held up so far. Knocking on wood lol. Real curious as to what is causing that on your saw.
@NickMcEntee7 жыл бұрын
That's odd about the screw. I've been using mine for about 4-5 years, daily use, and the screw is still in great shape.
@roqwire4 жыл бұрын
I take my Dewalt on the road, it's heavy enough..... Ive dropped mine a few times.... Its durable. Im sure that EVO is pretty heavey too. Have had my Dewalt over two years +/- and it still cuts precisely...... Maybe three blades since Ive owned it........ Alot of wrought iron including stainless
@peterm31595 жыл бұрын
For the price of the Evo you can get a Trajan Q1400 which is a real Industrial saw, it is what the new Evo was modeled after.
@albinasvanasius46802 жыл бұрын
TrajanQ1400
@michael3804 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a real review and not just an advertisement.
@LukeBrewMoreBeer6 жыл бұрын
You cut the bar on the Y axis and measured across the Z axis - the measurement with the indicator should of followed the cut (Y axis) as clamping in the mills vice, the extra parallel edge could certainly skew results. Both cuts should of been made with the same blade to. Other than that, overall a useful quick comparison. Both cuts are well within 'good' for this type of saw.
@johncurry75554 жыл бұрын
Great job on this video, I have never owned a Chop saw but I am looking to purchase one which is why I am looking for as much information as I can find. This was very helpful. Take carae.
@sidgar17 жыл бұрын
You should swap the blades to see if they have any impact on the quality and trueness of the cuts to rule that variable out of the equation during your testing.
@athanasiosskrikas7809 Жыл бұрын
I agree with "R" who made the comment. My raptor 355 doesn't cut strictly vertically. I've problem.
@robservice33227 жыл бұрын
Good review. I was happy to see the comparisons as I am wanting to upgrade from my abrasive chop saw.
@robotnicw4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Dewalt model before I saw this video. After it showed up I unboxed it and tried to mount a piece of square stock for a test cut. Just like in your video, the table is uneven so it's impossible to tell what surface is square to the blade. I boxed it back up without cutting and just returned it. Until this purchase, I unquestioningly thought DeWalt was high quality. Not anymore.
@daviddaddy6 жыл бұрын
You make good reviews but i feel you should have used Brand new blades in both saws. Same brand blades and i feel like that would have proved more accurate of a comparison of both Saws. I cant tell if your dewalt was cutting slower because of an older, duller blade? or because the saw just cuts slower? So i Kind of feel like the Results are inconclusive.
@q......6 жыл бұрын
The age of the saw matters also. I mean the dewalt is clearly beat up quite a bit more. Apples to apples comparison would be both being new and both using the same blades.
@antigen46 жыл бұрын
yeah it kind of invalidates the test but the reviewer is so inarticulate it was pretty unclear which saw he was talking about in many instances anyhow
@user-lf9fy3qx1e2 ай бұрын
Your video was very informative. Science behind the machine great vid
@tomsawyer55767 жыл бұрын
Have had both saws for some time. The Evo hands down is the better saw. Cuts faster and more accurately. The tread on the Evo saw clamp is standard vs the DW Acme tread but with the standard fine tread on the Evo you don't need to tighten with as much torque on the handle to get the same clamping force. After two years of using the Evo the clamping screw is still fine on our saw. When we changed blades on the Evo to a better quality blade the cut smoothness improved to that equal to the DeWalt. At our shop the Evo is the everyday saw and DeWalt was sold on Craigslist years ago.
@turbocobra7 жыл бұрын
Some great points, appreciate the info on the screw.
@v8trauma6 жыл бұрын
What blades do you recommend?
@funkypotamus7 жыл бұрын
Good man!! The exact video I've been waiting for! 😁
@papalilburn5 жыл бұрын
How can you expect a used blade to cut with the same accuracy of a new blade?
@mariantoader12604 жыл бұрын
O observația cat se poate de corecta! 😉
@AJC-jo3ds6 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a Diablo D1472CF blade, they outperform any dry cut blade 5x plus they also cut stainless steel and the best part is the price, $89.97 no other blade compares...Diablo leads the market in carbide technology..
@sheilamclaughlin9634 жыл бұрын
That blade on the dewalt has messed up teeth
@dougankrum33284 жыл бұрын
I haven't used one of these saws ...yet....but I'm 73 and every decent 'C' clamp I've ever used or seen in stores has a buttress or acme thread...like gear pullers...the standard 60 degree threads aren't designed for this application...but they are cheap... Actually not just 'C' clamps...but pretty much any type of clamp...metal working or wood-working...buttress or acme...you can really lean on them... The cast-iron tables on these saws seem stiffer and better...but I've owned and used several saws with stamped steel frames....they work fine if you don't bend them...or clamp them down on something un-even....and....most chop saws leave a small 'gap' under the drop side of the piece you're cutting so it falls away and doesn't jam the blade and damage it... I've cut 1,000's of pieces of material daily on chop saws (Aluminum and Steel)...if you want to get a nice cut, the better saws will not have that gap under the 'drop'...but you have to clamp both sides of the blade...otherwise you can find yourself with a bad cut on your hand or leg from that drop flying off....cutting many 5"-6" pieces from 20 foot long material....
@matthewfox37604 жыл бұрын
15 inch blade capacity but ships with 14 inch blade
@JerrysThisandThat7 жыл бұрын
Really fair unbiased review Gary. Seems like a winner to me just because of what you said about the deck.
@fatturbocars7 жыл бұрын
Jerry's This and That ii
@Vigoonline4 жыл бұрын
A fair comparison would be New to New machines. Also, check the blades run-out before installing it.
@gabewhisen34465 жыл бұрын
The fine thread enables more clamping force acme thread is stronger but by hand you can apply more force with fine thread
@roarkludwig17242 жыл бұрын
ordered this saw, based on this and some other reviews. Evolution S380CPS: Metal Cutting Chop Saw THe saw arrived DEFECTIVE,, the "lock" used to change the blade does not work. As there is not blade installed, it was a complete show stopper... How could a simple thing like this get missed ?
@turbocobra2 жыл бұрын
aww that sux... you just got unlucky. could have been packed wrong, could have just been mfg defect, etc. I bougth an ice maker recently on amazon and it had all good reviews, mine worked for 1 day and stopped workign and leaked water all over the place. No sense being emotional, upset or butthurt about it. just get a replacement and keep on moving
@JonDingle3 жыл бұрын
Last month I bought a brand new Evo s 355CPS saw and it has the square Acme screw for the vice. It's a great investment at only £220 delivered. I like your review but to be fair to the DeWalt you should have used the same blade across both machines so the results would have been based off one blade doing both cuts.
@davids16814 жыл бұрын
A bit TL;DW for me, so maybe you cover this - but the DeWalt's clamp jaw pivot, on a shaft that's deliberately NOT perpendicular to the table (I'm guessing in order to tend to hold stuff down against the table). The clearly-unintended result of this is that every damned time you clamp something, it's literally bending the heavy sheet-metal base material up along the adjustment slot. I had one table replaced under warranty because this was throwing my cuts off of perpendicular. Throughout that painful process, DeWalt seemed utterly clueless about this problem, where I'd have expected them to have realized how bad the design was by then and have retrofitted with something better. OTOH...the Evolution has a lot of cast iron in the base, which seems solid (I had an early model and thought I'd watch to see if it's been improved) but I shoved mine back at the seller almost immediately when I found I was having to diddle around with shims under the fence... and then that the saw mounting itself wasn't square to the base. Cast iron is cheap as hell, and though it may seem solid because of its weight, it's brittle and no better than the machining precision used at the factory. Carrying it around isn't a picnic, either. And not using an Acme-threaded clamping screw is just intolerably amateur. If someone made a precise cast-aluminum retrofit base for the DeWalt, I'd be looking to buy it.
@Paulman507 жыл бұрын
Evolution gave him the saw, I thought the review would only cover points that Evolution would win. But I watched the video anyway. My thoughts are that the clamp screw is stuffed already and at a guess, the motor will burn out before the Dewalt .
@choochoo39855 жыл бұрын
Great job, but all blades have a run out which doesn't relate to the power source.
@Karlheuken5 жыл бұрын
Don't you just love to watch guys unbox stuff?
@bbil81654 жыл бұрын
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@morrislucero8102 жыл бұрын
The rough cut could be in the blade and not the saw right ?
@etrtoolsrepairworkshop82952 жыл бұрын
Evolution cut of saw is outstanding and way way far better than all cut off saw I've came across with.very good machine trust me.
@mpowel035 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. One of my points of interest was the height of the fences.
@edwardpfaffel45023 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. The evo does have a more solid deck. The thread damage and the fact that it comes with spare brushes is scary. I still love my Dewalt!
@tcmixman5 жыл бұрын
I have an Evo rage and it’s going 10 years strong.
@Hunteratloppshop4 жыл бұрын
What blades?? Because no fool would use their trash blades and be happy
@sumising Жыл бұрын
Great comparison was very helpful! You do great comparisons must do other tools as well. Many thanks.
@jim40104 жыл бұрын
You should use your indicator on the vice jaw not the side of the vise and put a spacer in the vice and clamp it. Just saying
@jovannlopez98995 жыл бұрын
You should do both new machines .
@daviddemoise35267 жыл бұрын
We have an evolution at work and it is a great saw, but I have found the same issues with the screw clamp. I find the one on my personal milwaukee saw to be much better.
@turbocobra7 жыл бұрын
Interesting about the one at work. I used this one more today and had the screw bind up a couple of times.
@daviddemoise35267 жыл бұрын
Ramsey Customs - turbocobra it galled up day one in one spot like yours, it hasn't talked again in the couple months we've had it, but it binds up on a regular basis. The only dislike I can come up with.
@user-uv6ed4er9m6 жыл бұрын
David DeMoise كم ثمنها بالدولار ؟
@petertwiss3563 жыл бұрын
dood ... what a review, this is what I am talking about, legit metrics.
@jakubstanko40593 жыл бұрын
17:58 sec. What's that's strange sound when Evo. Almost stopped ?
@reideichner85977 жыл бұрын
Good information Gary. Thanks!
@tonydeleo36422 жыл бұрын
What is the lever behind the left side of the fence on the DeWalt?
@timwhalen44856 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation...Gary does a great job
@organicvids2 жыл бұрын
Evo look stronger. Saw vid of one cutting rail tie. Amazing. Blade life seems to differ greatly between users.
@CLPRPSD3 жыл бұрын
Is the dewalt base not flat because you have it bolted down in all 4 corners to something that isn’t flat, effectively twisting it?
@turbocobra3 жыл бұрын
the 4 corners its bolted to is floating and will adjust to the base rather than the opposite
@petermarsh49933 жыл бұрын
Dear Gary, from where I sit, the bearings on the Evo sound shot. That would give you the run-out on the cut. As for the Dewalt, if you look back at the video, the metal is not sitting flat on the bed. This means your cut is not 90˚ but something less. If you are fabricating, you want the pieces square so that when welded, you end up with accurate square joints in both directions. Neither saw passes the build quality test. How about trying a bosch? German manufacture rather than CCMIC {Cheap crap made in China}.
@thantsintun1004 жыл бұрын
Good job ! Thank . You are the man.
@spartaeus5 жыл бұрын
I have seen other reviews of the evolution saw. And they clearly showed that when you clamp something to be cut on the saw, the base of the saw buckles upward. Lots of flex and twist. Maybe it was a different model evolution saw?
@wildeyednorthernboy4 жыл бұрын
GOOD Review ,helped me ALOT on the price/better over all saw,thank u for the video gary
@turbocobra4 жыл бұрын
Hey Thommy, glad it was of use. Really both saws will do the job just fine.
@randynewtonsr96597 жыл бұрын
I too have the Evosaw 380 and while it's pretty good for the money, I'm a perfectionist and I was hoping for a little better quality going by all the hype on the Evosaw !!😏
@Jandejongjong3 жыл бұрын
Randy Newton Sr use a better blade. Evo blades are strange.. They chop and slide.. all bumpy cuts.
@versatileduplicity93133 жыл бұрын
Do a comparison with ridged !!
@lesschattermoresplatter5769 Жыл бұрын
My old DeWalt chop saw has a huge amount of flex in it and you can’t get a reliable cut out of it.
@brianharrigan88214 жыл бұрын
My observation was that 2 hands weren't the intended method on the ' finger wheel's of the Evo saw !! You used 2 hands and quite a bit of effort to loosen the clamp , resulting in permanent damage to the mechanism !! The Dewalt is no different , 1 hand,/ 2 fingers. Good effort though on the description. Cheers
@douglasthompson27407 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Gary. Valuable information. Take care. Doug
@rayeddy5287 жыл бұрын
Another great video Gary. Thank you. Interesting content. Be safe and God bless you!!!!
@marquezbailey83874 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Nearly anything that receives wear and tear would be subject to discrepancies, along with the cutting test. C'mon two handed vs one handed. Intended or not there's more weight on one than the other. The cut comparison was not accurate by any stretch, unless you were trying to prove the the base of the dewalt was not true for what ever ( W&T dropped steel) reason. If the planes are not parallel then the cuts are not going to be perpendicular.
@Fives-gm2bv5 жыл бұрын
Good video. It kept me from purchasing evolution saw.
@TSmitty853 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, very informative. Thanks sir.
@johndunn98195 жыл бұрын
two hands on evo, one hand on dewalt would account for time difference, plus old blade. dewalt has courser more durable threads on vise screw. evo has better table. although, you could correct by fine tuning... watching this video, i'd probably go with dewalt. depends on price.
@squirrel66873 жыл бұрын
So far, how much thickness, in and out of print does that brand coating add to the saw blades? The DeWalt's at the point of contact and is not deep in and out of paint craters and hills. The Evolution is obviously. The needle was moving. The previous point about the quality of the cuts will have been informative, however. Old vs new blade, bad comparison. Blade break-in helpful, at least with paint removal? It's the base you mentioned earlier as the culprit for the significant consistent deviation in one direction.
@franzb88825 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the aweful sound of the Evo slowing to a stop after the cut?
@robueleubor4 жыл бұрын
Ben B And he did not say nothing about that sound sounded like gears grinding
@zubairshaikh53253 жыл бұрын
How much cost machine & cutting blade
@yellowmetaldriver14606 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Looks like too much cranking on both clamps. No doubt the evo had a softer rod but i have used mine for years without a mark on it but i dont crank down nearly as tight as in the video.
@kb9oak7497 жыл бұрын
Runout test is meaningless. You did not isolate blade warp from the equation.Should have measured the shaft. I worked in a lab environment for decades testing. Otherwise very informative. Thanks.
@ednewell18477 жыл бұрын
The Evo saw can accept a 15" blade but is sold and shipped with a 14" and the base is cast aluminum
@thisdj833 жыл бұрын
My Dewalt gouged the slot where the blade goes into when it's pushed down. I don't know how. I put somebody to cut on my 2 day old saw and somehow it gouged the open slot. I used it since and I don't see how this happened but it did.
@sexybluelady7 жыл бұрын
I've been on the fence about which one of these saws to get. They both have been sitting in my amazon wishlist for a while now.
@user-zo6se3rc4k4 жыл бұрын
Long live Nikola Tesla
@zenmaster19797 жыл бұрын
Try switching the blades from saw to saw and repeat the test
@turbocobra7 жыл бұрын
That's a good thought, i will do that next time
@paulgrep31935 жыл бұрын
I think there s was a short review in there- between all the KZfaq adverts.......
@LemonySnicket-EUC4 жыл бұрын
Drag the red dot to the end of video. Then drag it back and watch video with no commercials.
@MrAtaripitbull4 жыл бұрын
The threading on the clamping bolt is what concerns me. I do hope evolution saw your video and went about the process of changing the design. $380 bucks may not be a lot for what the Evolution can do, but what good is it if the threading is gone after a few uses ?
@josecunha7316 жыл бұрын
I will never use a part that I need accurate to the within a few thousandths straight from a chop saw. Just me. If i need that kind of accuracy, I will machine it.on the knee mill. So nice to know its close, but kind of irrelevant. Very detailed comparison, though, and admirable that both saws produce such a cut, especially when the alternative is an abrasive saw which is not even in the ballpark.
@CrippleConcepts7 жыл бұрын
I have an Evolution and am fairly happy with it, but use my horizontal bandsaw far more frequently. John Saunders, nyccnc on youtube, makes a base for the Dewalts that seems like a huge upgrade....but of course that makes a fairly expensive saw super expensive. I almost always cut my material the way you did, but have seen a lot of others cut material the opposite way (flat horizontal) and that seems like a recipe for excessive heat in the blade and excessive wear on the blade. The same is true on horizontal bandsaws. Nobody would cut a piece of 3/4" x 4" material on a vertical badsaw with the 4" vertical, so why would anyone do so on a chop saw or horizontal bandsaw? I feel like I must be missing something, but maybe we are doing it right and most others are doing it wrong :-).
@turbocobra7 жыл бұрын
Agree with all your points on the horizontal bandsaw, I use mine most often as well, but a lot of home garage guys don't have one and this is a good solution
@CrippleConcepts7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I started with a drill press and Evolution chop saw in my apartment.
@KamiLoft3 жыл бұрын
Hi. how many cuts will the blade last? I think about something like 50x50x2 mm square tubing.
@volcom84bait5 жыл бұрын
i think these two saws are not meant to be for precision .. just rough cuts .. 4 or 8 thou off ...?? geez thats good enough for me ..
@CelularesAndroid3 жыл бұрын
The cutting discs are interchangeable, between brands? I have the impression that the Dewalts are more durable.
@jmc884806 жыл бұрын
The Dewalt is bolted down. Although the metal is thin, this may be the reason that the base plate is torqued.
@turbocobra6 жыл бұрын
i doubt it. The pieces its bolted to are free floating in truck receiver style hitches so the base should not be under any stress
@ryanb18744 жыл бұрын
Which blade last longer and are they exactly the same surface feet, and tooth count?
@21thTek6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info, beautiful video !
@bobfuller97596 жыл бұрын
Show the different in the miter clamp. thanks
@jeffreyhunterbuilder7 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review, kind of disappointing that Evolution would make such a nice machine, then cheap out on the threads, I hope they fix that. nice work on the review.
@sirmalus51532 жыл бұрын
The Raptor saw I have didn't come with the interrupted thread tightening, it's the first model and still going strong, after 9 years DIY use. It also still cuts square no problem, with none of the 'chatter' effect shown in this video. I don't think he had it set up right.
@apacheone36436 жыл бұрын
I would check the play in the pivot pin Neverlution has a lot of problems with this.
@strykerentllc2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately checking squareness on a cut without having a known square piece of material doesn't provide any empirical data of value. The take away on the soft thread form on the Evolution saw is self explanatory - pass, unless they have addressed the threaded shaft since August of 2017.