I think those count as "staring at a wall."

They don't have enough brain in the first place...

+Digibro xD

+captian bert The weird thing is that I know plenty of actually intelligent girls who like watching that stuff and find it "relaxing". I honestly can't get through 5 minutes of it.

i dont think thats completely true like, anybody that i know personally that watches the kardashians are watching it because they enjoy taking the complete piss out of them. the appeal isnt so much that people like to watch a bunch of rich idiots seriously, but that they like to laugh at them because of how god damn stupid they are- theres a thought process to willingly watching garbage. granted i say this based on a limited number of people, and im sure theres people who are legit emotionally invested in people like the kardashians. though i like to pretend neither of the three shows you mentioned actually exist.

ikr?

Why?

It makes it sound like he’s so grumpy that he hasn’t had fun in literally years.

Fun?! I remember fun. I HATED IT!

I heard that line and went immediately to the comments to see if anyone else found that as funny as me

I just realized that TV and videos are basically just moving walls, except just moving motions... that really all life is, just looking at moving frames in time, and being apart of those frames until one day, the show ends. Holy f#ck that was weird

Skele-Spider - Actually, staring at a TV is staring at glass, and the same thing for staring at a phone/tablet.

in his head screen = wall

You should try it sometime ~From an SAO fan

I'm able to do that. ADHD is a fucking nightmare when you are alone and tasked with something but when your are doing nothing it is a saving grace.

There's a difference between "thinking about something" and "trying to find the meaning of life". You can criticize something without picking apart every single frame of the entire animation. It's hard to have fun when there's so many glaring issues distracting you.

It all just comes down to a matter of perspective at the end of the day. I fall under the category of easily pleased so simply "turning my brain off" is as easy as sitting down for me otherwise when brain power is needed, i'll switch it on. Being biased plays a huge factor into whether you'll like a show too. I can't put into words how much I hate it when people say they dislike a show because it's "overrated" or "popular." Like how is that fair? I'm not here to say anything against what you've stated because I do agree with you. Just wanted to give you a perspective from someone with an opposite view.

Yeah I think what these people really mean is that they feel he's being overly critical. You can find flaws and errors in everything if you try hard enough and oftentimes people that don't see reasons why he disliked the show as big deals (likely because they don't care as much about that particular aspect of anime) may just come to the conclusion that he is criticizing things for the sake of it, not to compare and rate them relatively.

I don't agree with this turn off your brain as a critic myself. I won't criticize something unless that anime really disappointed me. Some critics fail because either the critic look at it too logically thinking the fiction world emphasis the real world. Once established said made up logic in a fiction, then you can tear it down with critiquing it in that area. Thus creating plot holes because it deny its made up logic in itself.

Edgy as fuck. Allow me to steal your comeback for whenever I'm asked that :D

You don't have to be an "intellectual" to be capable of critical thinking. I never said people aren't allowed to enjoy a show just for the sake of enjoying it. They absolutely are. I'm talking about when people get confrontational and defensive simply because of a difference of opinion.

just read this comment. you don't have to watch the video.

Whoa hey there. I think you're overthinking this. Try turning your brain off and just enjoying the comments. ;)

+Grey It is confrontational and defensive when someone argues against an analysis by basically saying "you're wrong because you're thinking too hard about this." Either respond with a counter-argument, or just ignore the analysis altogether and keep on enjoying what you enjoy.

I just kinda ignore it whenever anyone tries to use fun as any sort of useful tool in a discussion.

I'm saving this comment...its a work of art regarding constructive critisism! ;)

"That doesn't mean his opinions are wrong, as no one's opinions can be (unless based on incorrect facts)." Then opinions can be wrong. It's not because there are exceptions that opinions cannot be wrong. And you have to separate opinion with objective facts, because some reviewers out there conflate both. Like Digibro. If he doesn't enjoy a piece of media, is it because it's bad or is it because it's not his preference? You have to make that difference.

@@Wyllowisp The evidence of what is wrong is presented for us to see everytime Digibro explains his reason in opinion. Any claim of him using wrong information doesn't feel justified because of this.

F M I agree, but with an asterisk. Look at his Shin-Sekai Yori video and then look at the comments. Just like data and statistics can be influenced by how they’re presented, so can evidence like Digibro uses, and he seems to have done so (even if not intentionally) in that video

I'll happily defend the right for me to enjoy mediocre or bad things, but at that point I've conceded that, yes, the thing we're talking about is bad but I enjoy it anyway.

The thing is though, whether they realise it or not, the people who post those kinds of things do think the show is actually good. Otherwise they wouldn't enjoy it enough to see it as worth defending. I really wish they'd just be straightforward when arguing their points instead of this bs

aka why i cant process the things i consume and hype every new season as peak anime

People were just using these lines on me. XD

There is nothing wrong with pointing flaws, but apparently I'm an idiot who shouldn't have opinions for liking SAO for example. But the thing is I watch an anime I like it then I go to KZfaq I see a review and apparently it's 1/10 filled with plot holes etc. Then i see a supposedly a good anime said by some reviewer and well I go into it a bit annoyed because the anime I like is bad apparently and I end up finding a million plot holes from the "good anime", but apparently that anime is still good compared to the other one. Tbh though I hate all reviews etc. Oscar for example means a movie sucks pretty much. I do understand that some people like them. But if you want to find mistakes problems you are going to find mistakes and problems. It's your decision if you really want to hate the entire what ever you are watching just because you don't like some part of it.

Like what isn't there? What are you saying with that? And what are we supposed to check at the door ?

How was that open minded when he isn't trying to take in other people's opinion. His egoistic nature just get the better of him. He only cares about what he feels, and thinks is right and acceptable. This is how he thinks, one person's opinion is better than those of 7 billion on earth. Most people of digibro's kind are like that. I have heard him arguing with someone before on the internet. take for instance, that erased topic one about the basement. And it took them 1 hour to get into a conclusion. Simply because there were alot of digression in them. He talks shit about how this anime is bad despite being similar to any other show that he likes. Basically, most of what he says are emotionally motivated. Not by logic. But he uses things that aren't really evidence to talk shit about those anime. Although some of what he says are pretty agreeable. But pretty much, most of what he says are as well, BS.

+Jerry Korpi Liking something is different from it being good. Hating something is different from it being bad. Character, plot, design, music, animation quality... there are many objective ways to judge something's quality, and we can all see those things. If you like something that is bad, that's okay. If you hate something that's good, that's also okay. Opinions are not arguments. But if you want to argue that something is good when it's not, or something is bad when it's not, then you're going to be met with opposition.

Chameleonred5 That is probably, like seriously, the best explanation I've ever heard about opinions.

Mind-controlling mice, hitting a mine with a jet ski and nobody dying, the same thing with the observation deck taking a direct hit, absolutely no antagonist. I loved HSF at the beginning, but the plot didn't take any chances and went to logic-defying lengths to play it safe. It could have been so much better than it was.

That almost sounds like a complaint, somehow.

No no You could read the last paragraph of my comment to understand what I think High School Fleet did But in short, high school fleet didn't TRY to prove its bullshit they never tried explaining how the school works or what were the motives behind that virus They knew these didn't make sense and accepted it just as the viewers were expected to, because that's not the point of the show, if it was the point of the show and the show didn't have other things to offer, then it'd become a problem It would have been a problem if the show TRIED making sense with it and acting all oh so deep, because then it's like they're treating you as if you were dumb enough to believe their excuses

What is "BR"? Did you mean "CR", as in crunchyroll?

think they meant BluRay. Though that's technically BD

Same. And I'm pretty insulted that it did recommend this to me.

Let’s go

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True. Also, I love your username LOL

lol

Congratulations. You earned a laugh from me. This comments section is officially awesome.

I also appreciate you. But I am going to have to cast my vote for the Wilhelm and Thearesia couple. That was a dope ass love story that should have been expanded on more. I think. I just know I would have liked to have seen more.

somehow I feel that fun and hate contradicts each other

No shit

opinions in 2016,sigh* this generation of teenage is so spoilt...

I thought the plot armor of heavy object was the fun part about it. Soldiers bitching while in the middle of heavy fire; why the fuck not.

Yakasuki

It should turn your brain on! You should be imagining and thinking. I am in full agreement with you!

I think we have been educated to expect anime to turn out brains on since the times of Macross, Gundam and then Evangelion. It's a blasphemy to ask somebody to turn their brains on to watch anime. It's like asking those shows to have lesser standards.

Description Untitled Call me extreme but its like they’re saying i need mental disabilities.

If YoU dIdn'T lIke It ThEn WhY dId YoU wAtCh It

wtf? you're wrong

ALJustice0 Clearly they are right? why is it so clear?

ALJustice0 In what way? Am I to assume you're against digibro in that "you just gotta turn your brain off" is a valid argument for quality of fiction?

ALJustice0 Well, some people just want more. I mean. I'm critical of games (more so now that I'm a game designer) because I've played some of the better ones that have been presented to me. From simple games that aren't supposed to be taken too seriously (portal, the Stanley parable) to epic adventures with layers of depth and complexity (skies of arcadia, shin megami tensei.) If something is going to try something I want them to do just that. I want them to try. I, as a member of the audience, get kinda offended if a game or show feels like the creators didn't give a shit. I'm a huge fan of shokugeki no soma, which has a very nonsensical premise. But had so much effort put into developing the world and the characters so that even if the plot can seem nonsensical at times, pure effort had been put in to helping the audience get engrossed in that world. Gurren lagan did this too. Then I watch shows like (I'm just gonna throw out an obvious one) sword art online. And so many things contradict and conflict with each other, or just don't make sense logistically that I just can't handle it. The whole story was created (to the writer's very admittance) very poorly and quickly. And you can feel that when you watch it. Now I'm going to keep playing games and watching anime because I love games and anime. I've been buying and experiencing them my whole life. And I'm gonna keep telling people when I feel that something should be avoided and your time would be better spent elsewhere. (Like the new suicide squad.)

ALJustice0 Well if it's good, then that's good. If it's not, I'll point it out. I feel like pointing out that I really liked "Sakamoto" which was a show with minimal plot and great presentation. I think you think I'm saying I need a plot, I need immersion, I need this I need that. I just think that if a show sets out to do something, they should try at it. Sakamoto set out to be a great comedy and it succeeded. I didn't go on the internet going "the story was non existent! Bla bla bla!" no. But I do feel like if a show sets out to not try, then it's an insult to their fans. If you set out to not try, it'll show. The animation will suck, the plot will be hard to follow, the characters will be hard to like. And, at that point, what's the audience's reason to stick around? They'd be putting in more effort than the show did if they kept watching.

Um... Are you having an argument with yourself...?

Somehow I knew a comment like this was gonna happen as soon as I typed "battleship" into the script lol

Damn you Digibro!

if you hadn't said it I would have.

It's obviously a Aircraft Carrier

After doing 3 searches and using 1 source that isnt wikipedia, the difference between battleships is how big their guns are.

Maladaptive daydream powers, activate!

I like the fact that he said that she was completely out-of-place in the school play yet this is same play that has grade-school pupil starring in a high school play.

I think it takes more than that to be "cool"

fuk. Does that mean smoking cigarettes at the age of 12 isnt cool anymore? :(

Oh man, she rolled and went "aaah" at something, without a trace of emotion put into it.

She wasn't really supposed to put emotion into it. She's that type of character.

I would actually like to second this despite disagreeing with the principle behind it. There's also a little more to it though, as it also has a matter of ignoring nitpicks even on a large scale to appreciate the tone they contribute to. My favorite example of this would actually be the later entries in the Fast and the Furious series. Heavy Object is similar, if less cultivated. Of course, it's still pretty plain even if you do just turn your brain off, but it's not any different from High School Fleet in that regard. So do have an open mind, because forcing your own idea of what's good or not on something to suit your needs is as pompous as it gets. To put it simply, not everyone is after some exquisite, high-brow entertainment. Sometimes people enjoy media just to relax and get mesmerized by the fun images on screen in the hour or two they have to enjoy it every day. Not everyone is a professional consumer of media. If they were, then supermarket wine and Bud Light wouldn't exist.

It sounds like the phrase you're looking for is "Suspend your disbelief". That's the impression I got while thinking about "Turn your brain off". In a way, it's like criticizing someone for having a lower threshold for disbelief suspension, or possibly just for having different triggers to end one's suspension of disbelief.

"A teenager can't be god," Yet one of the most critically praised anime is Neon Genesis Evangelion.

+sageoftruth Yeah, I think that's the best phrase for it. I'll have to remember that the next time I want to say "turn your brain off". I probably have a larger threshold to suspend my disbelief than other people so I can enjoy lots of what many people would consider terrible anime simply because of their premise (popular example: yu-gi-oh). So I end up using "turn your brain off" when I feel like people are criticising or judging something simply by looking at it on a surface level. I think however the amount of disbelief you are willing to suspend realise a lot on the enjoyment of many shows. So "suspension of disbelief" would be a perfect explanation why I like many shows that many people don't ps. I hate youtube's replying system (it suuuuucks)

sageoftruth the term secondary belief exists for a reason

Or you know, just watch something else.

Wissenschaft Oh wow, really?

Absolutely destroyed Digibro how will he ever recover ??

For me it's I'll understand that you don't like what I like, until you insult me or anyone else for liking it.

"But..." "Don't sass me, you have to think to do that."

I don't think there's anything wrong with a critic doing that. If it bothers them, it bothers them--who are you to say that they're wrong to be bothered?

That's true, but it certainly makes their critique less useful, insightful or interesting in general.

+Digibro because Digi, you are saying stuff they don't like. So that means that there is something wrong with how you do things.

Well in the end, Critics are just ppl with Opinions, so if it bothers them then it bothers them no matter how big things are. heck sometimes, one thing can Ruin a show

Nitpicking generally means that they only tackle a single small issue with a series. Tackling a flaw of a series is fine, but once this becomes a nitpick it becomes annoying for the viewers/readers of the review as well. What about the other part of the series? Why is that not good? To put in an example of what you mentioned in the video, imagine if Heavy Object did have stunning visuals, amazing soundtrack, and maybe a slightly more cohesive plot, but still with the points that bothered you. If you still had rated Heavy object badly due to the points mentioned in the video, but mentioned nothing on the visuals, soundtrack, or anything else, that is when it becomes a problem. It undermines the good parts of a series because of a small thing that shouldn't have even dragged it down. That being said, pointing out small flaws does have a place in criticism, especially if the same flaw keeps happening and it stacks onto eachother, but once it becomes nitpicky it really devalues a criticism itself.

I agree! Some people can tune stuff out, or ignore certain problems in a show and still have fun with it. Others really can't.

I believe that "Do you hate fun" is a bullshit question. Everyone has a different idea of fun, whether it be watching Berserk simply for the extremely detailed butchering and bloodshed or watching Lucky Star because Konata is adorable being a devout anime and manga otaku. "Fun" is a totally objective thing that will differ from person to person and shouldn't be forced on someone once they've said that your version of fun isn't their version of fun. "Do you hate fun" can also be construed as "I can't believe you don't like what I like" or "You're different from me, so you suck".

Sporadicus Subjective... the word you were looking for is subjective.

As someone who personally enjoys SAO's 1st season and dropped it half-way because better sh*t was coming out (probably a game or something...), I wholeheartedly agree.

Ala. In my opinion..for Sword Art Online..I quit on episode 4. I knew what kind of anime this was: Harem. Well, there is more genres for it, but I can't stand it..too much girls. I'm more into action, comedy, or horror. So I didn't really "like" Sword Art Online.

AbsoluteKiNg92 I didn't and I still really enjoyed it.

OMG that is REALLY annoying! The show has a lot of depth to it! If your not paying attention your missing out! lol

And people who say the more story driven parts of the series are somehow "boring." Those were tense as shit.

No.

pretty much. Bu also how much you like character. Like the example with phantom world, if you like that sonic girl you will have fun seeing her. If you don't like god-alike deus ex personam then you won't be having fun with that concert.

how can you enjoy anything that is empty and inconsistent all the time. If something has organiced chaos it is consistent.

nyanfish It also boils down of each one interpretation of "turn your brain off" For me, it's all about what you said

Does your ability to spell count as 'organised chaos'?

that's funny I haven't had fun since I started trying to watch Haruhi

+ZeroHazard I haven't had fun since I last horribly misquoted someone

Headcrabgordan Nobody lets you live that shit down... ever

+ZeroHazard if digibro actually cares I'll delete my comment

That practically came out this year. Besides that, he also had fun with kabaneri. Another recent show.

ima add what I said before to this It's okay that it's the kind of fun that doesn't make sense because they don't try to make sense since it's not the point of the show and isn't being treated as if it were, then it's not a problem it would be a problem if they didn't have another point to the show, or if they tried convincing you with excuses that their bullshit isn't bullshit

Eyal Oged But gintama makes sense, is comedy with logic, is absurd logic, but is logic.

Celio Hogane idk I haven't watched Gintama But if the absurd logic is being treated as a joke and not actually trying to be serious with something that was never meant to be serious, then it's probably not bullshit

Eyal Oged Is not bullshit.

If Gintama tries to be funny, by adhering to stupid logic, and succeeds - are they really just "dumb sketches"?

A lot of times I find that a movie that has done really really well with the critics just isn't something I enjoy. For example The Last Jedi got a 91/100 on Rotten Tomatoes but I can't personally score it above a 5/10, thankfully I'm not alone and the audience score is a 47/100.

We're friends now.

Konosuba is not a mindless anime, they are shit persons and they act like shit, thats the fun part.

Now that's a show that's just mindless shenanigans that's fun to watch

Well KonoSuba is one of those anime that do try... And they succeed amazingly

The appeal and enjoyment of Konosuba is very simple. Everything that goes into the execution is significantly less so. Thus is delivers high-quality dumb comedy.

Exactly. I don't need a character to have an elaborate backstory or relateability or anything. As long as they have a reason for being on screen and as long as I enjoy the hell out of them, they're perfectly fine in my book.

Yes. If something wants to be mindless fun it need to be fun first.

JoJo is one of the funnest anime i have ever watched

Wouldn't say TTGL is "mindless".

Honestly neither is JoJo

So much salt it committed suicide.

This entire comment section is a salt mine

"The directing and composition of this joke was awful, I couldn't tell what was going on. I was so confused."

Shinichi Mechazawa xD exactly

Hey, look, someone with their brain turned off!

You do realize that he doesn't critique EVERYTHING right? The video exists to critique something...why is that so hard to understand?

But people aren't joking when they tell him to turn his brain off. So it's justified to explain why they shouldn't. It's not knocking them down a peg, it's showing why their attempt at knocking him down a peg is shit.

This channel has a habit of doing that. Kind of like Watchmojo, Smosh, trash in general.

"Hey, click on me, Do it, I know you're watching me......Come on, just touch me" That's what it's fucking doing...

I finally clicked on it just so I could dislike it. I don't want this on my recommended videos, and every time it pops up, I usually click "Not Interested." Still keeps showing up, though.

There is a 'not interested'?

Tecnophobe On your main page, just hover over the video, there should be three vertical dots.

Your Elmo profile picture makes this comment even better.

And let the silent kid with daddy issues turn your brain off

Stay in school kids? WITH A GUN??? omg

lmao

Oi Digi, Check out this anime I found called "Mitsudomoe"

It seems like it

True

dude someone say lolis?

I agree with you 100%. But this applies to basically every critic, which is why I hate critics and to be honest find them kinda pointless.

And I am happy that your own confirmation bias blinds you to the points we were trying to make.

But he did come off preachy, he didn't say so much why he didn't like a scene. One excuse was "another anime did it better", to which i say "so what?". And his other example his excuse was "it doesn't look pretty enough, watch moe instead". Both of his points are his own, and I am sure he stands by them. But given the topic of the video was "turn off your brain" and in the first 45 seconds he changed the video to "stuff i don't like and why" it became preachy very fast.

If we didn't have critics do you know how much shit you would have to go through to find something good

Ummm, what?!? Do you not understand how much shit we go through anyway?!? Critics jobs have been made obsolete by herd mentality of going online and whining. I don't, nor have I really ever needed a "critics" advice for watching a movie/anime/game. I do like when critics get informal and explain WHY a movie failed, rather than "I didn't have fun, don't go see it". But getting into the grit of it (flat angles, not playing the right characters enough, bad casting, blah blah blah)

because they know how there shows are and play with that idea

JoJo can also be serious, sad and epic almost at the same time. Greatest shit i swear

If you think that TTGL is just mindless fun and never stopped to notice a deep story and take on Epic's and the Hero's Journey, then i can't really take your opinion on what's mindless and whats not seriously.

Alas I think Gurren lagan did it too much, after watching it, I said I enjoyed it, but the more I pondered the show the less good I felt about it, it left a sour taste in my mouth

+Kerkelinker When did TTGL ''make up a shitty rule on the fly''? There is one rule, than beings with DNA can produce spiral energy, and the whole story is basicly built around that.

*MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA!!!!

It's clearly the work of an Enemy Stand.

MUDAMUDAMUDAAAAA Oh man I love those moments lol

what's it About?

(also I want to check what the anime at 0:34 is, I think I know but I'm not sure)

"turn your brain off" is like the exact opposite of RLM's "you might not have noticed it, but your brain did"

In the end, one actually helps the person who is being criticized. (It's constructive criticism)

constructive hate?

He probably could get more views, if he toned down his use of "colorful language" in his whole video.

A person can still hate something and have a reason that's constructive.

Yeah, but the statement would stop being a hate comment and instead be constructive criticism.

I found a few episodes to be (Endless Eight, The last chronological episode, and probably a few others) but I really liked it. Plus, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya was worth getting through any parts of the show I didn't like.

Same. I watched all of it, and I still don't get why everyone thinks it is such a good show.

CaramellNeko I like all the characters but Kyon is probably one of my favorite main characters of all time, so that's probably why. Did you watch the dub? It's much better.

I don't blame you, I binged watched it years ago and there were many things that was just "meh" or didn't stand out. It is kind of easy to forget the anime if you wasn't a huge fan of it. I still don't really understand why it was successful.

i kind of assumed it was supposed to be boring at times on purpose just to be even more bizarre

I just remembered, I particularly hate the whole "cast get-together" bit in harem series. I mean, I can understand why it's done there, since pretty much the whole point of a harem series is showing off all the cute girls (or guys in some cases), but what really bugs me is how it's usually done. Have some crazy event, get all the potential love interests involved, fair enough, but when they show how each character's experiencing said event, there's a sickeningly large amount of focus on the "main" love interest. Like, the series takes every opportunity possible to shove it in your face that the main protagonist is meant to be an item with this one character and the rest of the harem doesn't amount to shit. Oftentimes, there will be a love triangle that puts emphasis on two love interests instead of one, but it's still way too obvious that one love interest is the "main" while the other is just the "rival" who's not going to win, and it still makes the other five to twenty harem mates seem completely pointless. Admittedly, I am a bit biased, because all too often, the "main" girl isn't all that great in my opinion. She's either completely overshadowed by at least a third of the other girls, or she's even straight-up one of the worst options in the series (I'm looking at you, you damn Shana clones.... thank god that seems to have died out in the last few years). Then again, when the "main" is the best or one of the best girls, it makes the other girls seem like unnecessary baggage in comparison (pretty much how I feel about OreShura). This isn't to say that I think harems never work regardless of my personal preference, but I do wish there was more balance. Again, stop shoving it in our faces that one girl's totally going to win and everyone else has no fucking chance, and maybe give us some more harem series doing a genuine attempt to go all the way with the harem concept with a polygamous ending on the table (as To Love-ru and Highschool DxD seem to be doing, though I guess I should reserve judging until those series end). And if you are going to choose one girl in the end, at least try not to make it seem so obvious you'd have have to brain dead not to see it. Also, stop making the choice be either "so middle-of-the-road she's dull" or a complete bitch whose character arc has absolutely no success in redeeming her.

Overlord's main appeal is a power trip. It's good as that, but after you watch it and the euphoria end you'll end up with "Was that even good at all?"

The main problem of Overlord is that it's basically built on one joke - how everyone perceives Ainz as that near-unbeatable god, but he's actually an incompetent goof that gets by his luck. And I admit, it was pretty fun... but then the show never grew out of it. Or at least not within the time before I got bored and dropped it, dunno what happens further.

@@antongrigoryev6381 right, Overlord never grew out of it from the beginning. In season 1-2 and halfway 3 is okay but after that, Ainz never learn anything and he still use terror to subjugate his opponent instead of learning any diplomacy tactics whatsoever.

The funniest part is how in the beginning he fumbled through everything because he was a normal guy scared of not looking like enough of an evil overlord and worried he would get betrayed by his horrific subordinates if he slipped too much then just kinda fucking went with their assumptions of what he meant or wanted lel

***** Considering the high risk that I'll sooner have my brains leak out than passing out, I think I'll pass.

Well you WOULD of course pass.

You Good sir have made the most accurate description of this comment section.

The industry does not lend itself to anime thats makes people think. Stuff that challenged Japanese values or certain genres have gotten shit sales

''Oh, somebody liked a show that I don't like and find dumb, better bash them all for no reason!'' -You I'm not defending them, just saying you're not better

@Derek: While ironically being review and fan darlings after the fact. Welcome to the NHK, for instance.

That depended on more than just the shows' contents. Just take Kill la Kill for example.

Exactly; I find Digibro's videos to be fun to watch but not for any of the reasons Digibro gave for the supposed consensus of fun.

I think this video is mainly saying why he can't have fun with certain shows. He is explaining his reasons because people always tell him to turn his brain off.

There's no objective way of determining fun. It's idiotic to even want that or expect he could go about finding an objective "fun".

IamScarecrow it really seems that way. i'm not sure i'd agree with the idea that a disasociated kuudere character can kill the entertainment value of a show. But I don't have to, this is about "His" reasons for turning off of a show, and it would only really get to me if he attributes the subjective entertainment standards to a shows objective quality, which he sort of does with Heavy object when he linked his gripes to the shows market performance.

Is there an objective method of figuring out what's fun?

For my part, I think there must be a bell-curve of enjoyment for this. I like something that is extremely thought provoking and well thought out. I also like something that is so ludicrous and that just expects you to accept the unacceptable. And I have little tolerance in between. Like, I hated the first Madagascar. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out who it was supposed to be for. I thought the characters were obnoxious and that the jokes were poorly timed and executed. But, as the series went on, I found that I liked the movies more and more, culminating in the third one which I adored. But, I think it was the sudden disconnect from what had come before it that I enjoyed. And, to be fair, what I find fun, IS finding all of the plot holes and flaws and then laughing at them, and Madagascar 3 offered that in spades while Madagascar 1 was much more tame by having a more solid plot. I like to think that watching an MST3K of Madagascar 3 would be much more entertaining than watching one of the first movie.

Honestly, to me these types of complaints just sound like complete nitpicking. I watched the movie, and while I did notice some of those illogical things, I didn't notice very many, and wasn't bothered by any of them. Yeah its illogical, but I honestly don't see why that matters. I can never understand how people like DigiBro criticize even the smallest of errors in everything they watch. Wouldn't it be nice to just enjoy something and not complain about quite literally everything there possibly is to complain about?

I don't know, I get a certain amount of satisfaction not only noticing errors in things but also to know that others see them too, not just me. Some people can enjoy movies where the plot is secondary and the focus is on spectacle. That's fine. Some people can enjoy movies that focus too heavily on the plot at the cost of an engaging visual element. That's fine. Then some people, like me, who enjoy ripping something apart because of lazy writing or lazy direction. And that's fine too. There's no one right way to appreciate anything.

Not necessarily. It is reasonable to consciously accept improbable premises for a story so long as they don't break suspension of disbelief and don't otherwise ruin the narrative. I think Digi would say that accepting the central conceit of High School Fleet is easy because it's not contradicted by anything else in the narrative and still allows for (and is consistent with) the humor, action, and narrative tension that make a series like that fun. Whereas the central conceit of Big Order, which revolves around strategy, is hard to accept because it's not consistent with the main characters' succeeding despite their repeated mistakes, which ruins any narrative tension by making their success unearned.

I believe that the reason its so fun, is because you can watch the show without being taken out of the fun due to problems with the scene. Any show can be fun, but whether or not its enjoyable and worth the time is up to the execution of the show.

Yes, I think you are doing an excellent job of dancing around the fact that the show is a carbon copy of girls and panzer except that it takes place on the ocean with boats and not with tanks on land. I can easily debunk your entire essay by saying that the fact myself AND ShadowEliteHD know that a handful of little GIRLS are operating a warship that takes about 30-50 people minimum is in essence BREAKING your suspension of disbelief. Quite honestly all Digibro had to say was "It's not my style", and move on. However, I'm about to shatter your illusion. Why? Because the whole point of him making this video was to get people like us talking about what we like and dislike. Please leave your cinematic/critic logic out of this...it wants no part in what comes next.

+Blake Candin Fair enough. To clarify I've watched neither of these shows; I'm just making a guess at what Digibro would say based on how he talked about these shows in this video.

+ShadowEliteHD Hypocrisy is not uncommon with critics.

Except he's stated hundreds of times that everything is subjective

The WobbuffetKing Saying something doesn't mean you necessarily believe it. "Do as I say, not as I do" and all. Listen to him when he explains what fun, why it's fun, and that it *should* be celebrated. Simple, cute, well-animated, expressive, etc. Unsurprisingly, these are all (mostly) subjective qualities that vary in taste from person to person. He says prior in the video that dangling keys in front of someone won't entertain them unless they're 1. This is where he draws the slippery slope. He's trying to place an objective value on "fun" by implying that dangling keys is "bad" or stupid and [insert thing that isn't dangling keys] is superior, thus fun. Ultimately, if he believed things like this were subjective and vary from person to person -- as they do -- then this video is pointless. It's just dancing in circles in logic with conflicting and contradicting rationales in either an attempt to seem smarter than he is (don't take this as an insult -- it's not meant to imply he's an idiot) or to get easy clicks and views from people that can't see through the holes in the presumed argument he's making.

As a critic you strive to see things objectively, because no one cares about your subjective opinion unless it validates theirs. As a person it is impossible to truly be objective, critics still strive towards that by trying to state their own natural biases, watching a lot of shows, and talking with others to form a pseudo-objective standard. The biggest issue with digi is that he's arrogant. Extremely arrogant. He throws around his opinions and talks as if they are better and more objective than other people's opinions because he thought of them. No matter how many times he says "everything is subjective" it doesn't mean anything when he still acts as if his opinions are better than others, because he thought harder about them.

"If you want to make others have fun you have to work for it, you can't just dangle keys in front of someone's face and expect them to be entertained if they're over the age of one since they've seen that shit before and they have standards" The point of this sentence wasn't meant to say that no one over the age of one can not have fun with dangling keys. He used an example that most people would agree isn't fun to explain that making a show that's fun takes effort and is an accomplishment. The reason why this video isn't pointless is because many people use "turn your brain off" to disregard criticism of a show. This can be used in defense of any show and disregards the effort and talent it can take to make an entertaining show in the first place.

christopherjnr " As a critic you strive to see things objectively" It's equally important to be able to properly differentiate subjectivity and objectivity. "As a person it is impossible to truly be objective" Sort of, yes. Not necessarily because people can't be entirely objective but because most things don't have standardized, objective measure. "critics still strive towards that by trying to state their own natural biases, watching a lot of shows, and talking with others to form a pseudo-objective standard." Well you can still have natural biases and make rationalizations that are beside them. I might dislike moe, but I can say that a moe show is well-produce (although that's catch-all and vague, it's an easy example). My bias just means I won't personally enjoy it. " No matter how many times he says "everything is subjective" it doesn't mean anything when he still acts as if his opinions are better than others, because he thought harder about them." Correct. This is a case of "Do as I say, not as I do"

...thinking is boring?

do you have ADHD?

isnt fun subjective ?

This is a common excuse I somestimes hear when people excuse rwby's flaws.

I think people who don't think hard about everything are boring. If you can't even think hard enough about something to hold a conversation about it, then what's the point of even bothering? I don't want to hear from those kinds of people.

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How the fuck did they not get sued for that?

Yeah if you use realism as a standard for fiction, most works fall apart very easily.

I think the point is Heavy Object is about using tactics to outthink your enemy as the central theme. If you're going for realism then making stupid mistakes and dumb luck will conflict with the theme. Little girls on a warship is trying to be ridiculous and paces itself well.

It's not about logic, it's about the mechanisms of a world working as they should. Just because a show has magic, doesn't mean the main character should be able to conjure a solution to every problem.

actually if you follow heavy object close enough its not about tactics at all, its just about two guys who are stuck in deep shit and complain alot.

They were pulling a cruiser, I think. There was a destroyer in one of those shots though. I couldn't tell who was on what, so what do I know?

It's legit shit XD

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Why would he hate Re:Zero? I don't like the Fate/Stay series so I won't be watching it anyway, but what's up with it?

Re:zero is like a better dark SAO take out the fanservice and put in some Awesome characters and you get rezero

What does Re: Zero have to do with Fate/Stay? Those are completely different series that fit into different genres. Anyway, Digbro expressed in his Digibro After Dark channel that he dropped the show after the 2 part episode because it seemed like an overly dark and dramatic show and it didn't appeal to him. People started messaging him like crazy recently because of how popular it is, and he stated that he'd watch and review it when it ends.

Then Psycho Pass had more things he enjoyed than Heavy Object did. You can forgive little things if you love everything else in the show.

no series is perfect, and redeemable qualities are what make up for flaws, if a series has next to none, then don't expect its mistakes to be forgiven

Psycho-Pass is underrated, the expository dialogue fits with the characters and it has plenty of redeeming qualities to make up for any flaws. Psycho-Pass 2 on the other hand is shit.

Psycho-Pass underrated? lol every critic gives it a 4-5/5 just because its 1984 the anime. But it isn't. Psycho-Pass completely misses every question it should have asked and instead focuses on stupid half dilemmas. Psycho-Pass is overrated.

Yes, because you are an authority on which questions should be asked, and which dilemmas are "stupid half dilemmas", right? Granted, you may be an authority on these things when it comes to your own personal taste; but do not be so pretentious as to try to claim that this is some kind of universal standard that everyone should agree on.

True though.

But "Haters gonna hate," think whatever you want, same as freedom of speech---freedom of opinion.

It's amazing how many critics can't wrap their head around the concept that other people have opinions too. A critic's work is no more above criticism than anyone else's.

+RandominituFTW this is the truth, if your a critic expect other people to be a critic about you, their opinion is no more important than the next persons

Opinions aren't arguments. Arguments aren't opinions. Liking something doesn't make it good. Hating something doesn't make it bad.

+Rain Rai ok, look. In Haifuri they send newbies to the middle of enemy territory FOR TRAINING. Bullshit. Then they launch TORPEDO like a ROCKET and actually hit the enemy. Because screw the physics, we have lolis. Double bullshit. And you know what, the premise here is bullshit. Plot of the show built entirely on bullshit. And thats why: To drive a battleship you need a graduate a navy academy, which is several years of physical and mentally training. And our heroes like ten years old. Maybe even younger. So what, such complicated things like training in Navy academy is replacement for elementary school? I doubt that lolis can write their names properly and grammatically correct, not to mention driving a battleship. Yeah, fuck real soldiers, lets kids play in a war for real! Alchemy in FMA is not bullshit because it has believable logic behind it. World in FMA can work for real. In Haifuri it doesnt.

Context is important. Hot coffee in a desert is bad, but hot coffee on a cold winter morning is awesome.

Instructions unclear, turned my brain on. I see the fabric of the universe now. Everything makes sense.

who needs a brain

same tbh

I was thinking more of Archer

Except for Red vs. Blue is kinda funny, and heavy object was pretty bland imo

does that mean it devolves into an EVEN WORSE soap opera?

+Your Mom Aw man I watch that show!

Maybe he has hentai recommendations? XD

+HM Cloud mizuki kanojo and rance quest have been a few of my favorites.

+Tackson Caswell Thank you sir or madam. You see reimoo? The squad got you fam. #squadgoals XD

Rance is so good yo

+HM Cloud i haven't but i'll probably check it out tonight.

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Aaron Landry i watched the monogatari series theres to much talking wich i find boring and not fun

gon isdope I was referring to something more like the Yellow Submarine movie. It’s complete nonsense, but if you go into it just expecting some good animation and the Beatles, it’s great.

This is how I feel about Slayers, IMO. It's just dumb , silly fun with no real substance, but it's GREAT dumb, silly fun.

> I was referring to something more like the Yellow Submarine movie. I see you're a man of culture as well

digibro is addicted to moe shit and actually thinks moe =/= good

I'm not 100% sure on what you're saying here, but I like a lot of moe shit But I don't like Haruhi. That's because I think Haruhi is bad.

+Pedro Igor that makes zero sense

I'd be interested to see his take on the repeating arc, is it still a good anime because the alien girl is the only one noting the passage of time or is it good because they made the same episode like 5 times and changed a few of the camera angles and outfits or is it just shit and boring?

People have their own opinions, if you didn't know that xD

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Thank you, please keep doing what you're doing.

Look up DXfans review of Mirai Nikki.

+Kyuubi bomb That's exactly what I was about to say.

Yep. Was a good review.

Stardustbuster well at first I thought it was some kind anime funny moment then it turns out its a growth place of Debates of brains and fun. And I went with it hahaha (I was not complaning tho)

You shouldn't feel bad for enjoying something. No matter what so-called critics say, it is all subjective, it's all an opinion. This is why I barely care about reviews, I don't need someone else to tell me what I think about a show, I can do that myself. I'll I care about is being entertained because that's the whole point of entertainment.

+007MrYang As far as i know, Digibro completely agrees that the quality of art is subjective and people shouldn't feel bad for enjoying something. His analysis videos are basicly explainations of his perspective on whatever he's talking about, he isn't trying to tell anyone what they should think about it. Now if you don't find analysis videos interesting, that's fine, but i think you're kinda missing their point. They are about understanding someone else's opinion, not necessarily changing your own.

How about you stop being a pushover and argue for what you believe is right? Confrontation and disagreement should not be avoided. If you're not wiling to fight what you believe is right or for something you like, can you even say that you like it? Are you even worthy of having it if you are embarrassed by it?

I usually watch the first time for enjoyment. Perhaps look at reviews and rewatching the anime. It lets you step back.

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Litteraly the most distracting and interesting part of this video, despite its quite accurate points I couldn't help but be distracted by Animal girls fighting darth vader? Why did no one tell me about this?

Just turn your brain off

Comedy gold