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Brilliant. Am 81 and don’t intend supporting overpaid under talented people.

I love how the manual refers to us as "customers". I am NOT your customer and that's the whole damn point.

I was the one who told the TV license resistance guys that withdrawing implied rights of access only raises a red flag and causes Capita to pay even more attention to your property. Of course I was called a shill at the time. But the fact is that I cancelled my TV license in 1981 and have not contacted them since. Have received regular monthly threats from them since the mid 1990s. Before that I believe they were roughly quarterly. So at least 300 letters or threatograms. But the much more interesting figure is the amount of money I’ve saved over the 40 years I’ve not been dumb enough to pay for the BBC to puke its propaganda at me. In today’s money, the total is approximately £6,000. 🧐😎😜 Just think about that, imagine what you could have done with £6,000, then cancel your license and start saving now! Peace

I miss the goon visits I havent had one for 12 years since they bypassed the secure entry system into the communal areas of our building by saying they were gas meter readers so I buzzed them through the front door into the building. However they quickly came to my front door to read my meter although the meters 28 of them were in the building underground carpark. Strangely the gas meter readers wanted to quiz me about my TV license although I genuinely didnt have a TV much less license. I said no more than hello and thanked them for their call asked them to wait dialled 999 and spoke to the Police saying I'm a pensioner with two dangerous imposters in the building at my door allegedly from Capita who had obtained illegal entry posing as Gas Board officals. They didn't say goodbye but beat a hasty retreat and I've seen no sign of them in 12 years. I wonder how they wrote that up in the Enforcement Officer Visiting Procedures handbook? LOL

I remember when I was a 8 year old kid some 40 years ago watching my dad lay out a tv licence inspector out cold on the door step. Respect to the old man . RIP dad

I dont know how I ended up with ChilliJonCarne on my youtube feed, but I'm sure happy it did.

Imagine, in the last few months you haven’t been buying coffee from your chosen supermarket, and they send a sales rep to your house asking for permission to come in and check you haven’t got a coffee maker that is capable of making coffee.

The last time a goon told me that he needed to come in and check if I really didn't need a licence took the hint when I asked him if he was calling me a liar. He got back in his car a lot quicker than he got out.

Thank you Mr Chilli for keeping people informed..I don't pay so got no say..🎊🍺🍾🎉🍷🥃🍸🍹🥃🍷🍺 Party Time.. One Happy OAP..

They assume guilt because the BBC still think it's a world class broadcaster that everyone loves to watch. But facts speak for itself, look at the viewing figures Tim Davey.

It’s a pity there are no EO/VO brave enough to send you an anonymous copy of the UNREDACTED document.

I've not had a TV licence for about 35 yrs. I love all the kindling they kindly send to the occupier on a monthly basis 🤣

The reason they want to examine your equipment, is because *they're calling you a liar* . They even publicly admit, to assuming every unlicensed person is a liar. From the TVL website:- "TV Licensing works on the *assumption* that every UK household requires a Licence"

Could do with a former goon or undercover goon getting an unredacted copy of this because I bet the redactions aren’t covered by any law so can be talked about, they are just hiding behind “operational guidelines that could prevent enforcement if the public knew”

Trespass is a Civil Matter, however if you ask them to leave and they do not or they return after being told to leave or you have removed Implied Rights of Access and they return i believe they can be committing Aggravated Trespass which is a Criminal Offense. And can also be viewed as Harassment.

It's very telling that goons will ask a series of questions & accept the answers. But if folks deny them entry to check tv equipment, then all the answers become irrelevant & folks are treat as liars because they won't prove what they are saying. Just goes to prove that folks shouldn't answer any questions & just close the door.

You are priceless ! You score more points than Harry kane. ........ How do keep a straight face , because you have me in stitches. ....... Please keep up the sterling work .......... Am I scared ..... boo! Nah ! I've a chili Jon badge 😉👍

All their redacted statements are probably saying "STITCH them up wherever possible". Good video John.

I think watching your channel the best action is, " No thanks" and close the door. If the EO then leaves your property, that is the end of it. It must be very hard for the EO to get any satisfaction from doing this thankless job.

Regarding videoing, one of my visiting goons said "You know that's illegal?" He even said he was phoning the police. That was 8 years ago, and I'm still waiting for the boys/girls in blue to arrive. 😁

I seem to remember an un-redacted copy of the handbook kicking around online somewhere, would be good to get our hands on that :)

The redacted bit's probably touch the line or even cross the line of legal. Such as peering through windows etc. They're a bunch of tossers

Surely having redacted so much of this document it makes a mockery of the term 'freedom of information.' They haven't given the information that was requested.

Busy so missed a few vids (I'll catch up)....the blackbelt barrister (on KZfaq) has two very good information pieces on this.....yes he is a real barrister.....good vid as always chilli 🌶.

Interesting info, good to know. Thanks for the link, look forward to reading. Great video as always. Top man 👍

The redacted parts are under section 31, which means that revealing such information would interfere in their detection of license dodgers. They don't want to reveal all their tactics but if they've revealed some of them, it would be fair to say that the redacted sections are things the public would find objectable at best. TLDR: They're likely doing some shady stuff that they don't want to reveal.

Just makes me nostalgic for the good old days of "detector" vans, and Sweeney dressed muppets wandering around with a disconnected bit of aerial. Keep up the good work and if someone does turn up all that redacted stuff, be sure to post it!

Excellent informative video. Thank you Chili Jon and also to the person who sent you this info for us.

Interesting that in paragraph 3.1 they refer to us as “customers.” How can I be a customer if I don’t want or need their services?

Good Video and also shows the lies and pressure Capita put on people to sell you there product... If this was on the telephone or internet they would be called scammers....

I have not had a TV for nearly 20 years. One time after informing them yet again by phone that I don't have a TV following a letter I had received I then had a visit from two 'enforcement officers'. They insisted that they had to be given access to my property to verify that there was no TV. I told them that they could not come in and they went away after several requests to come in. As they left one shouted at me 'we'll be back'. I did not see them again.

The confusion with an implied right of access is regards to how the 'manual' is set out. There's a few things of note.. The manual begins to instruct on the basics to the trainee collector. When doing so it mentions implicitly some things that must not be done by the collector - the reason being that those are actual criminal offences and could well see a collector, or their manager, given criminal records. ie: Simply walking into a property by barging in. Later in the instructions book, the details it goes into are meant for collection agents with either a better grasp of the rules or some actual groundwork experience such as having been teamed up with another on the job for some weeks. Those latter instructions go a long way to the collections officer in helping give ways that extra leverage can be applied to a tv user - things that could be enough to worry someone into buying a licence despite them still not requiring one! Yes - scummy tactics. The manual is interesting. It's a combination of explaining the statute laws regarding permitted entry etc and what ways an agent can bend things in their favour. To many it reads much like a legal document/law outlining what the laws are. In reality it's nothing more than an official looking instruction manual for a sales person - yup a sales document. With the redacted things I can't help I'm afraid. Best I can guess is it's more of the scummy threatening tactics they are told to use when levering a buyer into buying something they still do not need. (licence) I'm hoping that an ex-licence agent who walked away from the job can supply you with a full manual. They will exist and it's only a matter of time until you get one. Interesting video. I'm like you - self declared don't need one. I do not have a tv set and do not watch tv at all unless I'm in a takeaway! So far I've had two of the yearly update letters and no visits at all. Thanks for sharing :)

Cool, I now know to ask for their phone number as well as their ID before telling them to bugger off.

Brilliant Jon very useful information not sure TV licensing or the goons will like this info being made public. (love it)👍👍

This is probably your most reassuring and informative video so far well done great job 👏

They may pretend to b someone important... That line really made me laugh. Love it!

I find myself always about to dig the front yard over with a large garden fork with 4 long prongs when they call. I emerge from the side of the house so they have get past me when they decide to leave. Meantime I am also practicing my thousand yard stare.

I might put together my own procedures Hand Book for visiting Goon salesmen! I’ll pin it to my driveway gate! Stating that under no circumstances can any TV TAX HARASSING GOON ENTER MY PROPERTY, AND IF DOES SO IS IN BREACH OF TRESPASSING LAWS! I had a refund and a confirmation letter to confirm that they’d received my request, but they may send someone around to check that I still didn’t require a Licence! Thus calling me a liar!🤬 I’m not surprised, cos let’s face it, we’re dealing with one of the most corrupt, mafia style corporations out there! Hope Tim Divy is enjoying his self approved pay rise, at the expense of thousands of pensioners! Shame Shame! Excellent content Jon👍

Would love to see someone just start reading their own manual to them

Regarding WOIRA (which I don't advise doing), I've seen several videos, where the goon has denied knowing there was a WOIRA in place, and has continued to talk, claiming the WOIRA has to be sent to TVL, before it comes into effect. Well, here's what TVL say, in their WOIRA policy:- *WOIRA notification* 5.1 Notice of WOIRA is not legally required to be in writing. TV Licensing may receive a notice of WOIRA via either: o letter o email o telephone o verbally when an enquiry officer is told by an occupant that he has withdrawn the implied right of access.

Always a pleasure to watch these videos. Information is useful and easy to follow. I wish there were at least a million followers and supporters!!

How difficult is it to find someone who has been a TV inspector who can get you a copy of this document. There must be hundreds or thousands of copies of this document out there. here in New Zealand we got rid of the TV license back in the 90s.I never paid it in those days either.

We should all keep using the right word "CENSERSHIP" a word they hate, not redacted, that word obviously doesn't sound as bad, use the word CENSERSHIP, DON'T FORGET.

If it was a freedom of information request how can they redact information like that? Its not the MOD or something related to national security in any way, they are a publicly funded organisation surely they shouldnt be able to redact information?

Thank you for your videos. As yet I haven’t learnt anything new, but appreciate the comprehensive but clear delivery. Keep up the good work 👍😊

Please keep up your excellent 'public service' channel. Informative and entertaining. Thank you.

"All instances of filming/photography must be notified to a manager as soon as possible, and a full report provided". Perfect: Immediate extra work for them. Also, I know it's better not to interact... But I'd be tempted to chuck in a cheeky "I'm filming you, so don't forget you have to follow Section 7.2 of your procedures handbook, and make a full report to your manager"

Very interesting, I just downloaded it, thanks Chilli! 😊 Awesome work there mate! 😊👍

Trespass is initially a civil matter. The landowner cannot prosecute for simple trespass but can sue for any damage caused. However if the trespasser does not immediately leave when asked to do so they are committing the criminsl offence of aggravated trespass and can be physically removed with minimum force and arrested and prosecuted.

longpastit Never knew this- From EO Visiting Procedures page 85 "If Computer Use is Claimed" By way of example, the BBC simulcasts all of its digital TV channels so BBC1 is streamed live and can be viewed using the BBC I-Player as it is broadcast. Therefore a licence is required to use this service. The BBC I-Player also allows a user to access an archive of programmes that have been broadcast over the past 7 days. "This service is not live and does not require a licence."!! Thanks for all the info - great campaign.

I actually had TVL hang up on myself multiple times as I harranged them so much on the phone they pleaded for myself to stop lol. They do the same to their customers so they got good service in return.

47,900 have no TV for sure thanks to chilli😆

Brilliant video jon. Very well presented. Those 'Redactions' need to be challenged. There must be a way to challenge a freedom of information enquiry where Important information is 'Redacted'. Keep up the good work Jon.

I keep getting the lovely red love letters.. Keep getting stood up! They give me a date and never turn up!

This info was absolutely great!! Thankyou! I am disabled and I missed paying my licence for a few weeks. Yes, I was prosecuted, so I now have to dig into my disability benefits to pay the fine and court costs which amounts to £200. That is money I could be paying on my gas meter to keep warm

Brilliant info....I only just filled in a "Dont need a license" form the other week and low and behold your channel was recommended!!! Spooky!....Great to know how to deal with the visit if and when it comes. Thank you :o)

Fabulous Mr chilli thank you 🤗I'm looking forward to seeing this

Not had one for well over ten years, easy just fill in the No Licence Needed declaration.

Once again, nice one CJ, VERY INFORMATIVE VIDEO

I used to fill in the no licence needed forms but got fed up with it. I put all their letters in the bin these days.

Sounds dodgy, all those redactions. When you said 'Collected,' are they actually taking payments from people, at their own front doors, that's bloody dodgy too. How many vulnerable people have been made to pay, right then & there. Surely that's Coercive behaviour. They probably assume the Elderly don't have Cameras too, I'll bet. TFS, & take care everybody. ♥️🙂🐶

Another great one CJ, keep them coming

You are one of best ways of showing all of us who we are in the eyes of their law. And its awesome. This can be used for all other such demands that are unlawful.

Another brilliant video mate. Thank you!

I always thought that if a person who demanded money through threats, was committing a criminal act ? Extortion I think it's called.

I reckon all that [redacted] parts relate to their "goons" sitting in the backs of vans, catching people watching "columbo" 😂😂. BUT, if you're watching "Quincy", you're fine

Mate, that vid was awesome, delivered, excellent work mate, keep it up 👍 subbed

Should get a sticker for the front door saying... NO BBC HERE, NO LICENCE REQUIRED, ENTRY DENIED, TRESPASS, HARRASSMENT WILL BE REPORTED. Couldn't hurt. At least your stance would be succinct. Maybe even put in their own handbook codes you're referring to, just the numbers, let them look them up. Someone could make a fortune printing these.

Thank you for the info much appreciated as usual!

Invaluable. Reminds me of that Clash song, "i fought the goons and the, goons lost!"

That one was very interesting Jon thanks for the good work mate keep on, we're watching😜

a brill post,cheers Chilli.

Put a 500 pound bounty on the unredacted copy.👍👍🤣

Jon I have just paid my licence fee for another year. I hate every program and person on the BBC. It just hurts that I have paid this. The problem is I have my own house and feel I am an easy target. Please keep up the good work. Please make it a subscription service.

I watched this video for a second time still has good CJ great

Thanks for your superb info on the subject. I saw an article on MSN from Chronicle Live media outlet just now so, having picked up your advice and information a couple of years back and used it to cancel my TV Licence requirement both then and last month (2 year re-check) I headed over to the article. Low and behold the entire piece looked as if it had been ripped off the Tvlicensing website! As there was a comments section I went in added what I would call an "essay" firstly saying the article looked as if had been written by TV Licensing themselves (which it had as most of the stuff in said article had been ripped from their website). Next I added multiple recommendations to visit this site for proper and correct information. It seems Capita are still frightening the elderly and most venerable in society with their quite frankly freakishly worded correspondence and even those who aren't but just don't see the need for a TV Tax as they are pretty much exempt (from what I could gather) from paying. So thank you for helping me personally and possibly thousands of others who no longer hold the BBC as a "bastion" of programming. I'd like to think I did some good today. Not sure if your still doing upates or anything as sometimes the language in Capita's letters and on their website changes. But thanks much.

Top respect to you sir.

Thank you very much indeed for providing this. Much appreciated.

Don't open the door and they go away !!!

I don't require a pilot's licence but the CAA has never turned up at my house asking why.

Even if you had no receiving equipment when the officer visited, then it would not stop anyone popping next door, picking up a tv and installing it. Therefore, EO visits are purely fishing affairs and whether you do, or do not have receiving equipment at the particular time of the visit really doesn’t matter anyway. The EO officers have to assume guilt anytime they perform a visit, otherwise why bother to visit ? Even if there is a note on file to say no license required, it means only at that one instant in time when it was added, 1s later and you are back to being assumed guilty until you can prove yourself innocent - round and round this loop will go. Therefore there is no point in getting annoyed with an EO because it’s British Law which has created the loophole of guilty until proven innocent. If eventually they do end up at your home with a search warrant, then, as long as you’ve played by their rules, they will record short term innocence, but tomorrow they will be back knocking. They can even bring the Police along, who will act on behalf of the corporation regardless of their oaths.

If you have withdrawn their implied right of access, post a sign stating that trespassers are by trespassing are agreeing to pay a fee of say £250 cleared funds within 7 days. If they enter and you record them on CCTV, after 7 days issue a final demand to tv licensing, stating when and where plus the amount. Allow 7 days plus 4 for post, then if the funds have not been paid. Issue a claim in the small claims court, state the facts and quote the notice, ask for amount plus costs and interest at the court rate. If they have not responded within the time limits request a summary default judgement. Then transfer the warrant of execution to the high court and request that bailiffs execute it. The full amount owed should be paid to you relatively quickly as the BBC has plenty of assets to seize.

Thanks for a really informative video keep up the good work

I'd tell them to use Their TV detector vans to see if I'm watching live TV.

Section 31 of the (English) FoI Act relates to an exemption where disclosure of the information might prejudice law enforcement. Clearly, TV licence enforcement is as fraught and high-stakes as fighting organised crime. Security of the operation is paramount ... I'm reminded of the joke where the TV licencing officer claims he'll get a search warrant because he saw a TV through the window, and "it's clear that you have the equipment". The homeowner responds that should this occur, he'll have the TV licencing officer arrested for sexually assaulting his wife. "Based on what evidence?!!?", cries the TV goon. The homeowner responds, "Well, I'm assuming you have the equipment." ;) On a side note, I can't state with any certainty what year it was the last time I paid the licence fee or watched any TV that would make me liable to pay it. Thanks to good folk like ChilliJonCarne for giving us the confidence to lawfully stand up for ourselves on this issue.

I watch your channel and back in 2011 there was a warrant out for me non payment of TV licence which went knowhere I still watch although for years I've never paid BBC for a "pass" to watch the old box still I find every video informative and interesting and I sure do pass the word on about not or never needing a BBC TV licence!

Brilliant again Jon, great information.

I have always assumed that the sort of people who do this work are similar to those who clamp cars and then demand money for release. This is a tactic that is illegal in the UK. Attending your home to accuse you of lying and to try and stitch people up is a similar low level of criminality. It amazes me that the BBC condones this conduct.

I think the benefits of having an implied right of access denied sign is as trespass is a civil offence if they then ignore your notice and return again it counts as aggravated trespass and harassment which are both criminal offences...

Had the “dreaded” we will visit you on this date letter today. Makes me laugh, i can cancel my Car insurance which you legally need and they dont send the Go Compare guy or the Meerkats knocking on my door. I never answer my door unless i know family or friends are coming

I think you should chain a 6 stone German shepherd with an attitude problem to your front door with a sign saying this dog bites and see it they got the balls to knock then

Like what your doing keep up the good work things can be hard enough without pay or being made to pay for something that you don’t need. These big companies think they can do what they want. Your so right never say anything to them they will just turn it on you. A lawyer said to me Even if you haven’t done anything wrong you are better to say nothing because you don’t no what the person that you’re dealing with is like. Are they out for themselves and your just over time or a bonus or are they going to do the right thing ??? They say it’s good to talk but in this cast I would just keep my mouth closed. Keep up the great work 👍🤐🤐🤐

I called TV L, yesterday after receiving one of their letters. I asked them for an appointment and they said 'not possible' so I asked why and they said 'we only come unannounced' So I said I remove your 'implied rights of access' then they said 'fine that will stop us knocking on your door but not the letters!' Surely if I ask them to stop sending me letters that's harassment?

Mate, there is a very good point in denying there implied rights of access, because if u do not do this they will just keep hounding you and for some it can have devastating effects to there mental well-being receiving threatening letters and continued doorstep visits, I withdrew there implied rights of access and they have not bothered me since, neither by letter/ email or doorstep visits, it all stopped immediately and I have not herd from them since, this was 2 years ago I submitted the declaration. So it is infact very beneficial to do that and get it in place regardless of what you think they should or shouldn't be doing they are just going to continue relentlessly until you take action, And as I said some people do not have the mental capacity to deal with this level of harassment, myself included I could be at work while the mothering law is at my home taking care of my child and she could let them in and other scenarios like this, you cannot lay in your bed or be out at work worrying about things like this, so best to nip it in the bud so u can go about your business without looking over your shoulder and becoming paranoid and fearful

Your good and brushed up. I’ve joined

Remember people Goons are like Vampires, They can only come in when invited

Those Redacted sections are probably encouraging the EO to act outside of the law, when it comes to a NO situation.

I have just received a letter saying, I have 10 days to sort my licence out, or a full investigation in to my address.

Great video great information keep it up