Final Stages of Our Investigation - TV Licence Threat

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ChilliJonCarne

ChilliJonCarne

Жыл бұрын

Time to look at another tv licence letter, this one is quite threatening I feel, they are proceeding with the final stages of their invention…oooooo
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@ChilliJonCarne
@ChilliJonCarne Жыл бұрын
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@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Жыл бұрын
Investigators that don't know if they are investigating a sir or a madam? I wouldn't worry about them.
@tommason870
@tommason870 Жыл бұрын
Yep, got one of these this Week. Even though I do not live at the address anymore but still own the home. This is because I have cancer and mobility issues so have moved in with my parents. I have told them the property is empty and still they threaten with those stupid letters.
@markc7440
@markc7440 Жыл бұрын
Dear TVL, I am writing to inform you that this property is legally licence free and instead of paying for an unwanted and unneeded licence I have been buying more legally kept Samurai swords and working Antique firearms. Yours sincerely, Mr A. Nutter 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob Жыл бұрын
They can only interview you, if you stand there and comply, otherwise they're interviewing a door. 😊
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
Too true.
@davek2276
@davek2276 Жыл бұрын
Good response is, "Oh, don't be standing out there in the rain. Bugger off!"
@fredbloggs8072
@fredbloggs8072 Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching/recording live TV (and using iPlayer) about 5 years ago. It was only 2 years ago that I finally cancelled the licence. I'd been very nervous about doing it, as I thought there was a good chance I'd get prosecuted, even though I actually didn't need a licence, or get constant hassle from the goons. It was Chilli's videos that gave the confidence do to it. Many thanks, mate. (My only regret is that I didn't bin it off sooner.)
@angelawhelan7061
@angelawhelan7061 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@alanjones9101
@alanjones9101 Жыл бұрын
And here
@Thetoxictiger1980
@Thetoxictiger1980 Жыл бұрын
6 years and counting licence FREE for me!... Keep up the good fight everyone 💪👊
@782sirbrian
@782sirbrian Жыл бұрын
And another the same
@peteb5280
@peteb5280 Жыл бұрын
Only 18 months so far & no letters. I’m feeling left out !
@concernedcitizen12577
@concernedcitizen12577 Жыл бұрын
The law states you are innocent until proven guilty. But it's the opposite of TV Licensing and the BBC. They seem to think You are Guilty until proven innocent.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves Жыл бұрын
Unless, not until.
@frankbrodie5168
@frankbrodie5168 Жыл бұрын
Yeah... To be fair TVL isn't the only thing where this sort of assumption is made. There's a little known company called HMRC that can state pretty much anything to a court, and you better be bloody well sure that you're 100% innocent of EVERYTHING they claim. AND can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. In triplicate. Else you will be deemed to be guilty because you can't prove you're innocent.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob Жыл бұрын
I've had the "As you have not responded to our letters yet", no less than 29 times. 😁
@icdgyixifyinstereo
@icdgyixifyinstereo Жыл бұрын
I do not even open them. I send them back to the sender.
@fredbloggs8072
@fredbloggs8072 Жыл бұрын
@@icdgyixifyinstereo I think that's the best strategy. I've not had any letters yet, but if/when I do, that's what I'll be doing.
@ptinca
@ptinca Жыл бұрын
Getting used to the colour of the envelope and what the letter inside says without opening the things now
@bretton_woods
@bretton_woods Жыл бұрын
@@icdgyixifyinstereo I keep all the letters as evidence of serial harassment
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
There is no requirement, legal of otherwise, for anyone to respond to any letters of this nature.
@pam164
@pam164 Жыл бұрын
They should be not allowed to do this, but they get backing off the big ones.
@dave0smeg
@dave0smeg Жыл бұрын
If anyone else acted like they do they would be reported to the police for harassment. Maybe that's what everyone who gets these types of letters should send them to the police.
@MetalVII
@MetalVII Жыл бұрын
We’ve just cancelled our TV licence today . We only watch catch up services, KZfaq and Disney+ and with one of your recent videos informing that the licence fee is going up we thought, “Why are we paying this?” Thanks for all your videos with the information that people need to see. I’ll let you know how quick we get a sales person at our door. Don’t worry, I know not to say anything and my wife also knows that they cannot come in and not to talk to them.
@stuartb4525
@stuartb4525 Жыл бұрын
Watch your tv, don't worry about it. Whatever you want to watch. Just don't tell them.
@alancrane4693
@alancrane4693 Жыл бұрын
Well done 👍
@Nickle314
@Nickle314 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club. Now keep a running total of how much you have saved, and how much you cost the BBC in postage letters, free fire lighters, ....Every little helps.
@ep1929
@ep1929 Жыл бұрын
You won't look back, streaming on demand is the future.
@G4RY1159
@G4RY1159 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on saving some cash And Thankyou for cancelling Together we can finally get our msg over and get this farce scrapped for good.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob Жыл бұрын
I have a policy of *absolute* silence. My last goon was gone in 60 seconds. 😁
@nicadair7700
@nicadair7700 Жыл бұрын
Same here. That's the way to do it. Silence is golden.👍
@MikeEves
@MikeEves Жыл бұрын
I did that with a goon. Just stare at them, it's hilarious, and they scurry away.
@fredbloggs8072
@fredbloggs8072 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, like it! I was planning to just say "no thanks" and shut the door if/when I get a visit, but I like your strategy better. Make them feel uncomfortable. They couldn't give a stuff about us, so why should we care about their feelings?
@mrcbeee
@mrcbeee Жыл бұрын
My daughter received a letter from the TV license people saying they watched this and that in specific rooms of the house. Weird, she wasn't even in the house, she was here at home as it was the Christmas break and in fact, there wasn't a single person in the house at the time they said. She got really scarred and I was like "ignore them" and sat and had a conversation with her about the tactics they use. She was like "how is this even legal?" - I had to then explain how ruthless they and now she can relax. It is truly awful how they treat people and this really needs to stop.
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
They have no way of telling what anybody watches at any time at all. There is no way for them to find out this information unless you invite then in, you foolishly admit to anything, and even more foolishly, sign anything. Just close the door with a polite but firm 'No thank you'. Nothing could be easier.
@BondDerek
@BondDerek Жыл бұрын
Any other corporation using this level of harassment would be ALL over the news channels...they are all complicit in this, the mainstream channels, I have seen no reporting on this insidious and troubling behaviour on any one of them.
@robertdonald7190
@robertdonald7190 Жыл бұрын
They spend millions on these stupid letters, just proves they don't care about wasting money.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
They operate like spammers..... send off thousands with a hope x% respond... it must work as they continue to do it.....
@mohammedpervez
@mohammedpervez Жыл бұрын
I have been tv licence free for 3 yrs now and iam still under investigation
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
But that's irrelevant as you don't need a licence.
@andreaschapman9886
@andreaschapman9886 Жыл бұрын
Hello Chilli, yes I’ve had that letter last week, I read the letter and then promptly tore it in half and binned it.
@bretton_woods
@bretton_woods Жыл бұрын
i keep all my letters for future as evidence of serial harrassment..
@brianstuntman4368
@brianstuntman4368 Жыл бұрын
I've received every variation of the TVL threatogram, I don't even open the envelope these days. I would laugh, but I can imagine how terrifying these letters may seem to the most vulnerable people in our society. The wording is devious in so far as what they say COULD happen may be technically correct (e.g. they can APPLY for a warrant, BUT NOT without sufficient evidence) and their intent is to instil fear. If any other 'reputable' organization adopted these methods, it would be a scandal.
@onehairybuddha
@onehairybuddha Жыл бұрын
At least they no longer make this letter look like a final demand for a utility. I'm assuming somebody told them to knock that off.
@RogerBeverley
@RogerBeverley Жыл бұрын
I just write on them " RETURN TO SENDER" and repost them . 😆😆😆
@ViN-kr3ri
@ViN-kr3ri Жыл бұрын
These letters should have a line right at the top in bold letters saying 'Please ignore this letter if you don't watch or record live television or use iplayer'.
@thelegaloccupier1982
@thelegaloccupier1982 Жыл бұрын
It gives me great satisfaction that it must be costing tvl a damn fortune on sending out all these threat-o-grams on a daily basis! 😄
@ptinca
@ptinca Жыл бұрын
And as a non funder I don't mind them wasting as much money as they can trying to sell me something I don't want or require all the more the merrier plus send the boys round as while they are at mine not getting a sale they are not bothering a lone woman or aged person
@batintheattic7293
@batintheattic7293 Жыл бұрын
They'll be passing it on to the people who need and buy a license, though.
@stevegee8010
@stevegee8010 Жыл бұрын
£7 million pounds in 2021.
@Kingcarparpeggio
@Kingcarparpeggio 6 ай бұрын
thelegaloccupier1982 : Its not costing TVL anything…..it’s costing the licence payers a fortune.
@iggysfriend4431
@iggysfriend4431 Жыл бұрын
I made a no licence declaration and they ignored it and kept sending me letters. I have now received 20 of them in 2 years. I will never buy a TV licence and I have no intention of ever buying one. I use Amazon Prime and Netflix. Interestingly I recently was away on business and I stayed in a hotel with a TV in the room. I refreshed my knowledge of BBC and god was it crap. It just reinforced my opinion of not watching it. If the licence was free I still wouldn't watch it.
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Жыл бұрын
I have had exactly the same experience with the constant threatening letters, also at the hotel thinking to myself, “I’m glad I’m not paying for this rubbish at home”.
@Nicole-Faith
@Nicole-Faith Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't be allowed to do this, it's straight up harassment! I can imagine it could tip some vulnerable people over the edge. It's off the scale inappropriate.
@alancrane4693
@alancrane4693 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's designed for that purpose and fully supported by parliament.
@Nicole-Faith
@Nicole-Faith Жыл бұрын
@@alancrane4693 Yes this has always made sense to me that it's designed to be that way.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves Жыл бұрын
The letters are approved by the dim-witted. It's Pipa Doubtfire, she's a moron.
@RealShadowfiend180x
@RealShadowfiend180x Жыл бұрын
I know loads of peoples tvs work without a tv licence 😂
@davidhaslett9777
@davidhaslett9777 Жыл бұрын
If I get a letter addressed to "The Occupier" I check the postcode, if it is unwanted, such as TVL, I put "not known at this address" or "gone away" - "Return to sender"
@robg521
@robg521 Жыл бұрын
Don’t return the letters, each letter and envelope has identifying codes and marks that tie to your address, so if you send them back it will flag up on their radar that someone is living at your property. Put them in the bin or shredder, never communicate with them in any shape or form and stay under their radar. I have been living in my own place for 35 years and never had a licence, I’ve had 2 visits in the 1st 10 years to which I just closed the door and haven’t had one since, i shred all of their letters without opening them. My address is on their mailing list for the letters but They don’t know if my address is empty or occupied or even if I exist. It is the same as spam texts or emails, if you reply it will flag up that they have found a real person and it will trigger the sending of more spam emails and texts.
@ep1929
@ep1929 Жыл бұрын
Yes I've had these "occupier" letters, I'm the owner in the literal sense (mortgage free), so I don't know anyone named occupier!
@MikeEves
@MikeEves Жыл бұрын
Just ignore them, don't react. Your home is a black hole.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
@@robg521TVL have a system with the postoffice where no letters are returned. If you do this they are just discarded... no tracking, no nothing..
@mrLoftladder
@mrLoftladder Жыл бұрын
@@robg521 100% with you on this, say nothing do nothing is the best way to deal with the scum. All these doorstep debates/withdrawals of implied access, returning of threatening letters and aggressive attitude to the goons if they call only encourages them and helps them to get a warrant
@grannytakesatrip1128
@grannytakesatrip1128 Жыл бұрын
Canceled my tv license over 2 years, received all the threatening letters of a visit, ignored them all, and threw them in the bin. The letters they send out are quite intimidating and play on people's fear of a knock on the door from them. Even people who genuinely don't need a tv license will buy one out of fear of being prosecuted for not having a license. If you don't watch any live tv broadcasts from any recognized broadcasters, you don't need a tv license. If tv licensing sends you letters saying you do, just ignore them, if you receive a visit from them politely say no I don't need one, and close the door. Don't enter into a conversation with them.
@obeanddarth
@obeanddarth Жыл бұрын
i canceled my tv licence after watching a lot of your videos. i only use my tv for youtube, netflix, disney plus or i am on the playstation. thank you ChilliJonCarne :)
@johnbellamy6449
@johnbellamy6449 Жыл бұрын
Our sons just had a letter saying just that .he knows it's not going to happen if and when they come .lock your gates ,dont answer the door .you've broken NO LAW AS YOUR NOT WATCHING TV .
@ladykaycey
@ladykaycey Жыл бұрын
I cancelled my TV licence a few months ago. I actually commented on one of your videos. I even got a letter saying they'd contact me in a couple of years to see if anything has changed. A few weeks ago I got a visit. He said your licence has run out so I'm just going to fill out a new direct debit form for you. I said no, I don't need one. He was shocked! I'm autistic and suffer from severe anxiety. I came in and called them up telling them about having cancelled months before and got told 'oh there was a mistake, I'll make sure that everything gets sorted' Well just over a week ago I got one of those very threatening letters. I phoned up again and the lady said they'd not completed the cancellation and that she'd send me a cancellation letter. I asked for her name which she gave me and a reference number. I still haven't received the letter. An elderly neighbour who doesn't own a TV was very distressed when she got the exact same letter the next day. She's waiting for a visit and was talking about having to let them in her house. I told her everything I've learned from your videos. Its disgusting to frighten the elderly this way!
@jerrybootneck1736
@jerrybootneck1736 Жыл бұрын
Had that same letter just last week and on two previous occasions and I'm still waiting for a goon to knock on my door. Trouble is, the government allow them to send this type of threat 'O' grams.
@MrAndroidData
@MrAndroidData Жыл бұрын
simple fix....any letters ANY letters through the door, just shred, dont reply, knock on your door, say "no thanks" shut the door, thats it
@danielyoung_
@danielyoung_ Жыл бұрын
It seems like the only reason they get away with it is because these letters are only classed as "slightly misleading" and not "entirely misleading" according to BlackBeltBarrister.
@stratblacknosugar.5125
@stratblacknosugar.5125 Жыл бұрын
I open the letters to confirm that they are from tv licensing, then bin the letters.
@79aimless
@79aimless Жыл бұрын
I got one of these yesterday, hilarious. Even if they do get a warrant, unlikely, you have to be in and answer the door for them to be able to enter. They can't pick your lock and enter.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves Жыл бұрын
They can't enter if you open the door as well. Their BS warrants are meaningless as they require consent, which they don't have.
@stevegee8010
@stevegee8010 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeEves Not true. I've seen the police threaten to arrest the occupier for obstruction if they don't allow the goon in after he'd shown the warrant at the door. Baz is correct, they won't force entry at a closed door.
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
@@stevegee8010 Unless you know who the person is, don't open the door, or keep the chain on. They would then have to execute a forced entry if they saw fit to do so.
@stevegee8010
@stevegee8010 Жыл бұрын
@@brimkathstampex2306 I don't keep batteries in my doorbell unless I'm expecting someone, so I've no idea if and when strangers are even at the door. Also has the benefit of making the batteries last a lot longer.
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 Жыл бұрын
@@brimkathstampex2306 The good thing about a forced entry is that if they're wrong they have to pay damages. The police also have to pay damages if they force entry and find no proof of wrongdoing which is why the police won't back Capita up if they want to force entry🤣🤣🤣
@lollipop0220
@lollipop0220 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon. Waiting for the next letter from my new friend 'Scott Robson'. Keeps teasing me but never turns up 😂😂.
@ep1929
@ep1929 Жыл бұрын
Mines from Jane Jeffers
@lesblack8996
@lesblack8996 Жыл бұрын
*you have left us no alternative* ....... blatantly nasty threatening use of language there.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves Жыл бұрын
"You have left us with no alternative... to send you another bluff letter in 28 days time". 🤡 🤡 🤡. I have over 70 letters, it's hilarious 😂
@BrumKid
@BrumKid Жыл бұрын
I got a red letter yesterday and did what i always do and that is RTS.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
That doesn't work, but will make you feel better. None of these gets returned as TVL have a system with the PO to not return these letters, but discard. Best if you send to your MP asking why they are permitting harassment. Explain how they are impacting on your mental health (nice big tick!) and to keep you informed of your queries progress as they investigate.
@alancrane4693
@alancrane4693 Жыл бұрын
I've written to the BBC about these letters! How dare they send these letters only once a week. I want more two a day the price of toilet paper nowadays is ridiculous. So it's a welcome relief to receive a TV licence letter butt BBC letter could be a bit softer and absorb better. So BBC do better by making these letters softer I be sending a couple of used letters back to you BBC so you get the idea!
@VulcanDriver1
@VulcanDriver1 Жыл бұрын
I remember buying a TV in the 1990s from Comet. I was asked to fill out a form for TV Licencing telling them I had TV. Thankfully, this has now stopped.
@stuartb4525
@stuartb4525 Жыл бұрын
I was savvy even back then, I used to give the details of somebody in my street I didn't like.
@Nickle314
@Nickle314 Жыл бұрын
I always given the postcode and number, that's sufficent to identify who has to pay. SW1A 2AA/10 is worth remembering.
@alancrane4693
@alancrane4693 Жыл бұрын
Bought second hand for Nintendo SNES then N64. I was going to get TV from comet once they did same thing i laughed and walked out without purchase. Got Panasonic plasma from independent shop no worries 2003.
@robg521
@robg521 Жыл бұрын
I remember that, I refused and they told me I had to, to which I replied “do you want to sell me the TV to me or not?” They sold me the TV, and I didn’t give out my details or address. 😂
@Nickle314
@Nickle314 Жыл бұрын
@@robg521 A thought just occurred to me. You opt out for 2 years. After a month, you buy a TV. They get the address and start harrassing you. Have they broken the law?
@XXXSHARONOXXX
@XXXSHARONOXXX Жыл бұрын
Got rid of virgin tv last year way to expensive....But to be honest i was scared of saying i did not need a tv licence...It was you that gave me that courage to go ahead and do it....Thanks so much ❤
@luapnitsua5859
@luapnitsua5859 Жыл бұрын
I like it when Jon gets a little "animated"... Good job bruva.I think my 2yrs of not paying for a uneeded TV licence is up the end of this month and may just phone them after 1 reminder to tell them I don't require one still👍.Capita can find another door.Why would I want to keep Capita gainfully employed by ignoring letters?
@andywrollo2915
@andywrollo2915 Жыл бұрын
8 years here 🤣🤣
@bretton_woods
@bretton_woods Жыл бұрын
The TV Licence MAFIA can effing do one... 5 years licence free here and I never bothered to call them to cancel. Don't have to. Actually that comment was a little unfair: at least the actual mafia made some good films.
@chrissmyth4116
@chrissmyth4116 Жыл бұрын
No need to call them do it online thats what I do every 2yrs alot easier
@laceandwhisky
@laceandwhisky Жыл бұрын
No requirement to call them after two years it is their rules not law. 😁
@pam164
@pam164 Жыл бұрын
Had an other one today red with big letters in black on, went straight in bin
@garethchaplin3780
@garethchaplin3780 Жыл бұрын
John gave me the confidence to cancel mine. But I'd love to know how the BBC can stop you watching all live channels (itv, ch4 etc), but keep the money for themselves.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
The licence is from the 1940's, that should tell you... :)
@robg521
@robg521 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the exact same copies of theses letters many years ago, but I have no idea what’s in the letters that I get now… because they all go straight in the shredder without being opened. 😂
@DavidSmith-ze2wi
@DavidSmith-ze2wi Жыл бұрын
Just had my monthly threatening red letter. Same here straight into the shredder. Gives me such pleasure.
@icdgyixifyinstereo
@icdgyixifyinstereo Жыл бұрын
If you give them a bogus name and signature, you will really waste their time.
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't - I'd just say "No thanks" and close the door.
@djmattblack
@djmattblack Жыл бұрын
Your mate BBB just did a really interesting video on that no license needed declaration questionnaire, even he can see how fundamentally flawed the whole thing is
@djmattblack
@djmattblack Жыл бұрын
@@ViN-kr3ri he does it purely from a legal perspective but even he agrees that the license fee is fundamentally flawed
@nickerrison-davey9099
@nickerrison-davey9099 Жыл бұрын
It's crap,Chilli Jon has already covered it.
@Nobby1961x
@Nobby1961x Жыл бұрын
BBB is a rubbish barrister. He suggested the goons can look at your internet history to see if you’ve watched tv that you shouldn’t. How would they know you watched it in your house? Stick with CJC.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
I like BBB and can see he's not a TV fan. This issue is as he always comes from a legal perspective using legal speak he often doesn't make much sense..... trying to be concise about a vague set of terms is challenging!
@Nobby1961x
@Nobby1961x Жыл бұрын
@@robtheplod I used to like BBB but I think Jon knows more about the TV licence.
@ep1929
@ep1929 Жыл бұрын
I bet the BBC hated the day when fast internet, smart TVs, firesticks, Roku and Chromecasts became widespread. Think of all that revenue gone - and more people seeing the light every month!
@siypic
@siypic Жыл бұрын
They will be trying to get everyone to pay for the BBC through the council tax or similar over the next years..... a corrupt organisation.
@djburland
@djburland Жыл бұрын
A guy on KZfaq got put away for doing less than these threatening letters from the BBC. Guess it's one law for them another for us.
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
Can you supply KZfaq details, so I can have a look?
@marknestbox
@marknestbox Жыл бұрын
Folks, it is so simple. Keep your front door, and your mouth, Shut! Thank you.
@themole1944
@themole1944 Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for some lawyer to take the letter writer to court for demanding money with menaces
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Жыл бұрын
People who receive these letters that are not addressed to them personally should be tossed back in the post with "not at this address" written on the outside of the envelope.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
That doesn't work, but will make you feel better. None of these gets returned as TVL have a system with the PO to not return these letters, but discard. Best if you send to your MP asking why they are permitting harassment. Explain how they are impacting on your mental health (nice big tick!) and to keep you informed of your queries progress as they investigate.
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
Apparently this would be no good at all, as the BBC have an agreement with the Royal Mail not to accept these return letters. You'd be better off sending it back in an innocuous looking envelope, handwritten.
@dahdidah8553
@dahdidah8553 Жыл бұрын
INTERVIEW YOU UNDER CAUTION. Let us remind ourselves of the CAUTION. "You do not have to say anything " ....... So don't. Close the door having said nothing.
@Pugwash.
@Pugwash. Жыл бұрын
My first letter was with green ink and the second with red. There's a certain amount of psychology aimed at you when they make these threats.
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 Жыл бұрын
I think in the last 15 years of having no licence I must have seen just about every variation of these begging letters and I'm at the point where if a letter doesn't have my name on it, "return to sender", back in the post box. I include junk mail in this category as well so my postman must hate me when he empties the postbox. I have never had a visit, never signed anything, never spoke to TVL (Capita) and never rung them up....
@marcothorsen950
@marcothorsen950 Жыл бұрын
Not a good idea sending letters back. Then they know the address is active.
@DavidsCafe
@DavidsCafe Жыл бұрын
i've been here in my flat for a year....had about 10 letters of all degree.. i haven't or don't need a tv so they get filed... 😁
@robg521
@robg521 Жыл бұрын
I moved into my 1st flat in 1988, them moved to my own house. And I have never had a TV licence. All of their letters go in the shredder unopened, and I have never had a problem. I had a visit at the flat in the 1st year, I never spoke to them, just closed the door, they didn’t call again. I had a visit at my house in the 1st year, same agin I just closed the door and 30 years later haven’t seen them since. Never communicate with them in any shape or form. my address is on their mailing list but they have no idea if my property is empty or occupied or even if I exist.
@gazhilts53
@gazhilts53 Жыл бұрын
Got one yesterday for a house thats not been built yet. Postman put through my door (New housing development) saying they're "sending the boys round" as no one had responded to their letters. 🤦‍♂️
@timothywilliams4089
@timothywilliams4089 Жыл бұрын
Surely by now we must be able to return the gesture and be in a position to send them a threatening letter which has a 'legal' tone about it? Any lawyers out there could come up with an isea?
@roybiglicker4331
@roybiglicker4331 Жыл бұрын
I haven't had a licence for over 12 years, I still keep getting the letters, I still put them in the bin. It must have cost them a fortune in postage.... As yet, never had a visit but I know what to say if they do visit 😉🤭
@lluke18
@lluke18 Жыл бұрын
It’s disgusting some one needs to take these to court for stress
@shamteal8614
@shamteal8614 Жыл бұрын
In any other circumstances it would be deemed as demanding money with menaces, a protection racket on a par with a bunch of gangsters coming round and saying pay up or else.
@parapilot4694
@parapilot4694 Жыл бұрын
All these letters are obvious where they are from without opening them. I now write "return to sender" and put them back in the post. Hopefully, they have to pay to receive their own crap back
@clare6249
@clare6249 Жыл бұрын
Good strategy but steam it open first, put something heavy in the envelope like a coaster or thick cardboard, glue it back sealed THEN send it back. They'll pay for the weight of it too.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
That doesn't work, but will make you feel better. None of these gets returned as TVL have a system with the PO to not return these letters, but discard. Best if you send to your MP asking why they are permitting harassment. Explain how they are impacting on your mental health (nice big tick!) and to keep you informed of your queries progress as they investigate.
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Жыл бұрын
You’re right. Imagine Netflix writing to you like that. 😂
@Lee_303
@Lee_303 Жыл бұрын
So when you're at work, obviously your TV is off but they're not satisfied with that.
@grahamhall8249
@grahamhall8249 Жыл бұрын
Your info and videos did it for me, I gave my licence up at the start of last November. Not frightened by these salesmen anymore!
@09philipr
@09philipr Жыл бұрын
Bearing in mind we are looking at a criminal offence, what kind of ACTUAL EVIDENCE is TV Licencing required to produce to meet the standard of proof 'beyond reasonable doubt'? THEY have to prove your guilt; YOU do NOT have to prove your innocence.
@stephenoliver9235
@stephenoliver9235 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon have you seen the BBC questionnaire the BBB had it on his channel , the questionnaire will confuse a lot of the public , as I was but I would advice to avoid at all costs.
@lollipop0220
@lollipop0220 Жыл бұрын
I definitely chose to ignore that questionnaire. Another trick I expect.
@stephenoliver9235
@stephenoliver9235 Жыл бұрын
@@lollipop0220 very wise choice
@noobs2239
@noobs2239 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work for us all
@Songforyall
@Songforyall Жыл бұрын
my best mates wife let the goons into their house last week. me and him got back to their house in time to see them going through BBC Iplayer's history to prove it hasn't been used which it thankfully hadn't. we kicked them out and hopefully she wont be doing that again.
@stevegee8010
@stevegee8010 Жыл бұрын
I've had a few 'final stages of our investigation' now - doesn't seem very final to me.
@davek2276
@davek2276 Жыл бұрын
Just cancelled on behalf of my son who is disabled and doesn't watch live tv. Amongst the statements is "You need a licence if you watch live on streaming services (e.g. All 4, Amazon Prime Video, NOW, ITVX, Sky Go) ". I checked Amazon Prime has started to stream some live programmes, but if you don't watch them you don't need a licence.
@sandman4198
@sandman4198 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha I received a RED ENVELOPED one today!!! Sh!t is getting real if it's the red one right??? Instead of it being intimidating it looked just like a valentines/birthday card 😂😂. Fools!
@robertdonald7190
@robertdonald7190 Жыл бұрын
I got the big red one today too! It said 'OFFICIAL NOTICE'. Very threatening - in the bin!
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
@@robertdonald7190 You binned it simply because you don't need a licence, so no big deal.
@davidellis279
@davidellis279 Жыл бұрын
Had one of those letters today and went straight in the wood burner along with all the others I’ve received over the last couple of years,like you say who do these goon’s think they are thinking they can intimidate people like they do,I await their knock on the door as always.
@myles7522
@myles7522 Жыл бұрын
Keep chipping at the wood Jon….I wonder how many people stopped the licence last year…
@thetopcat8946
@thetopcat8946 Жыл бұрын
Mine go into the fire
@Nicole-Faith
@Nicole-Faith Жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@francishatton6683
@francishatton6683 Жыл бұрын
If they require a reply they should send a pre paid envelope.
@stevedawg9588
@stevedawg9588 Жыл бұрын
Report them to the environmental agency...how many trees are chopped down to make the paper for letters that just fill our recycle bins...
@jackygeorge5096
@jackygeorge5096 Жыл бұрын
Just had a scary letter Red envelope,scared!! Keep sending letters told them didn't need one still averaging letter every 2 mths,so not bothering to tell them next time,thanks for giving me the confidence to cancel 2yrs free yah!!
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Жыл бұрын
Dear sir/madam" .... "proceed with the final stages of our investigation" Sounds like their crack team of elite investigators isn't very competent.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves Жыл бұрын
Investigation = another bluff letter, same as the previous.....🤣🤣
@melwalters8531
@melwalters8531 Жыл бұрын
I had the same letter. i put a small hole on the top corner of the letter. put a string through, and placed by the toilet roll. bonus saved money on loo roll. thanks for your help your doing a great job
@alancrane4693
@alancrane4693 Жыл бұрын
That's what I do 👍
@Keithbarber
@Keithbarber Жыл бұрын
How csn you use it as loo roll when it's already covered in shit?
@sjjarjarbinks
@sjjarjarbinks Жыл бұрын
One thing I hope they never do is make it a tax in that case property can be asset forefit to pay delinquent taxes
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 Жыл бұрын
My mum was prosecuted for no TVL about 30 years ago and my dad says "it was their detector vans", he doesn't realise that my mum admitted the offence when the goon knocked on the door and said "you don't have a licence". My mum even told my dad that but he still thinks detector vans are a thing🤣🤣🤣🤣
@PixelProfessor
@PixelProfessor Жыл бұрын
I didn't think they had any tech. TVs just received and never broadcasted signals. There wasn't anything to detect.
@paulopiano6455
@paulopiano6455 Жыл бұрын
@@PixelProfessorRe detector vans. It was a simple system they used really, in the days when there was only 3 or 4 channels it was easy for them, the detector vans were equipped with a TV aerial and a TV set, all they did was camp near your house at dusk and switch channels on their TV set until the flickers and flashes matched your TV flickers and flashes lighting up the room , it was visual
@stephenhargreaves9011
@stephenhargreaves9011 Жыл бұрын
Why has no-one ever taken these clowns to court on libel charges?
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
Because the BBC is the Government's mouthpiece.
@nigelreadon8381
@nigelreadon8381 Жыл бұрын
If the licence does go on the c tax its the end of the enforcement officer. I'm hoping things stay the same.
@bobbydazzle4113
@bobbydazzle4113 Жыл бұрын
Shut the door.. Don't even say no thank you...... Chap, chap.. Hello I'm from TV licence.... Shut the door!
@PixelProfessor
@PixelProfessor Жыл бұрын
I moved into a new property, and I don't need a TV licence, as I don't watch 'live' telly, or BBC services. My daughter watches Netflix, Disney+ and her fav KZfaqrs, and I download other US shows/films. I never told them, that I live here, and still down as the legal occupier. My last letter was in a red envelope, which scared my elderly mum. I had to reassure her that it's just intimidation tactics.
@casper1240
@casper1240 Жыл бұрын
Scary letters but only if you read them ,i can sniff out these letters they seem to have a funny Smell to them
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
But you do that because you don't need a licence.
@stanpritchard7436
@stanpritchard7436 Жыл бұрын
I've had three of them over the last two years, they all finish in the same place , the shredder.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod Жыл бұрын
shame, you should send them to your MP asking why they are permitting this harassment. Explain the damage and stress its doing to you and to keep you up to date with the progress of your query.
@markmccabe9688
@markmccabe9688 Жыл бұрын
I've had exactly the same letter , can't wait for them to dare knock ,I did tell them 3 years ago we don't need one but apparently that only lasts so long
@krisjames999
@krisjames999 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the letters to start coming, think I’ll just bin them without opening them if it’s clearly from them on the envelope.
@DjiMavicMini58
@DjiMavicMini58 Жыл бұрын
After being conned for a TV Licence fee for many many years I just had my refund of £90 after declaring No Licence Needed I fall into the over 60s age group Thankyou Very Much for your channel
@luapnitsua5859
@luapnitsua5859 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if any of these really wealthy families (stately home types) have ever received a visit from Capita???. Would love to see one of those made in Chelsea types receive a threat from the BBC...I may actually pay to see that lmao
@harveymutch4158
@harveymutch4158 Жыл бұрын
I've also been legally licence free for the last 10 years or so, I've had loads of these 'final stages' letters before their system reset and sent out the merry go round sequence all over again. I have also had the 'somethings changed at this address' letter which is another fishing attempt, in fact nothings changed. Very early on I withdrew the implied rights of access which I know is not currently recommended, but should they turn up at the door, I would not hesitate to commence proceedings against them. I never reply or correspond in any way with them. You would think even the dumbest organisation would understand that I am total immune to these ridiculous letters after this length of time and sending numerous letters every year is just a total waste of their money. However, the letters have now suddenly stopped and I miss my moments of mirth and and merriment as I added the letter to the huge pile, but fully understand the distress and concern felt by many other in dealing with these disgraceful letters. It remains to be seen when and if the one sided communications recommence.
@johncorbett1130
@johncorbett1130 10 ай бұрын
It's Been 33 years & ton's of threatening letters and in that time only seen one bloke turn up as I went off to work ,he tried to talk to me as I drove away ! but he didn't actually know which house I lived in anyway😊 as my door was closed & my car was parked on the street
@ritadoggrell2349
@ritadoggrell2349 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just had my ten day warning, let them bring it on, I’m not bothered
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
I bet you don't need a licence?
@ritadoggrell2349
@ritadoggrell2349 Жыл бұрын
@@brimkathstampex2306 No I don’t. I refuse to pay the fee after having a free licence for eight years. Don’t miss it at all, got better things to do.
@Alan-gx8gf
@Alan-gx8gf Жыл бұрын
Over the last 5 years of being Legally License free , I have had around 30 letters and one visit from a Morissons/Data Goon and another from TV License /Goon ! I have not had a Letter for about 3 months , and if they come to my door , I'll say what , Albert Steptoe might say " Up Your Khyber " then close the Door ! 🤣🤣🤣
@yorkshirepud6676
@yorkshirepud6676 Жыл бұрын
Well Said ... I just don't want the postman making a trip down my path for nothing, I'II wait for the first letter then do the online thing again, If you get a kick from slamming the door fill ya boot's but I don't want the Scumbags near me.. "You do a great Job Mate as always"
@barrystubbs983
@barrystubbs983 Жыл бұрын
with the b.b.c. you are guilty until you PROVE to them your innocent
@80PercentScottish
@80PercentScottish Жыл бұрын
I still haven't heard a thing since writing to them and telling them to remove any information they hold about me from their systems, and that if they send anyone to my property, it will be treated as trespassing and the police will be called. Also warned them any future letters will be treated as harassment and as such I'll engage legal proceedings. They wrote to me (without being able to use my name mwahaha) to confirm receipt of the letter and that my info would be removed. Send them threatening letters back! It works!
@mrLoftladder
@mrLoftladder Жыл бұрын
could be a bad mistake, a sympathetic magistrate could take this as a sign you have something to hide and issue a warrant if requested. Listen to Chilli, say nothing unless they call then a polite no thank you and close the door
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
Trespass is a civil matter so calling the Police would be a complete waste of time.
@80PercentScottish
@80PercentScottish Жыл бұрын
@@mrLoftladder I'm sure after four years and counting, they are just biding their time 🙄.
@80PercentScottish
@80PercentScottish Жыл бұрын
@@brimkathstampex2306 I'd be within my rights to call the police if a company that is harassing me breaches my property line. I'd be 'in fear for my safety'.
@RadioJonophone
@RadioJonophone Жыл бұрын
I received this letter in November, 2019 - I file them all away. Since then I have received many giving 'ten-day warnings', 'will I be in?', 'Investigation escalated', 'investigation in your area', et cetera, warning me of visits from the scary salesmen. So far, since 1972, I have been visited twice, both tens of years ago. 'Who are you?' - 'TV Licensing' - 'No thanks', door closed does the trick. If you do have a salesman visit, keep your thoughts about Jimmy Savile, Gary Linaker, political bias, and the optional nature of this subscription service to yourself. They've heard it all before, it will do no good, and your loose lips may incriminate you, even unintentionally. E.g. "Blah blah Jimmy Savile!" - "Oh really? Did you see him omn Top of the Pops?" - "No mate, I turned to ITV whenever his fizog came on the screen." An admission to watching TV, maybe recorded or witnessed by a second salesman. Whoopee! off to the magistrate for a warrant, or "may we just step inside to clear this up?"
@peterjones7763
@peterjones7763 Жыл бұрын
I filled in online no licence needed,I recieved confirmation from tv licence that I wouldn’t hear again for 2 yrs or unless I tell them of any change, since then I recieved 4 of their letters and a salesman calling at my home, I again have contacted them to tell them I’m not a licence needed user and to stop sending me letters and callers of salesmen, I expect to recieve more letters and maybe a salesman calling , now if they do can I pursue a claim of Harrisment ? I have all the emails from them.
@xx3868
@xx3868 Жыл бұрын
Impossible situation where if you were watching live tv for say 5 years, thats a savings of $1000 by not buying the licence but when caught, you only pay a few hundred to the court unless they can prove you been watching 5 years and then the max is 1000 fine anyway. Cant be enforced and expensive to do so and some are paying while most are not so not equatable.. Here in Aust we just pay a few cents? a day automatically to fund our ABC and i thing thats how the UK will have to do it as people see these videos and realise the goons cant look through their windows or force entry to get evidence and you just close your door...
@Maggy47
@Maggy47 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice x
@Mwwwwwwwwe
@Mwwwwwwwwe Жыл бұрын
I got a letter which said "by law we have no other options but to ....investigate" which law manages this I wonder
@user-of4sd1rm8r
@user-of4sd1rm8r Жыл бұрын
The way you present your video blogs is very reassuring and must be appreciated by everyone who watches your videos especially those that are finding it hard to make ends meet right now. Keep up the good work buddy.
@saabirfootball
@saabirfootball Жыл бұрын
Thank You So much @ChillJonCame now im not scared anymore
@williambarnes3868
@williambarnes3868 Жыл бұрын
we have not paid the TV tax for over 6 years. In fact the quality of TV programmes on both BBc and ITV is so abysmal that we actually took our TV to the local recycling centre a few yaers ago. Just ignore all the threatograms and put them through the shredder.
@brimkathstampex2306
@brimkathstampex2306 Жыл бұрын
So what?? You obviously don't watch any live TV.
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