Twisted Metal 3 Makes Me Sick | How Twisted Metal 3 Ruined The Series

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Tactical Bacon Productions

Tactical Bacon Productions

11 ай бұрын

To quote a great man, oh the fishy odours we must endure as we lay between the thighs of fate. Now let me tell you something, there was once a period in my life when I basked in the idea of negativity, of cynicism, of being just a horrible miserable person. I would say for the first couple months of this channel's existence I was still in that mental state more or less. But as time went on, I just grew to dislike the idea of going out of your way to be miserable, because it's just so wearying. Chronic negativity is so tiring, and I see a lot of that on various social medias. People going on righteous, angry Crusades on nothing in particular, seemingly just to have something to be angry about. That's not me anymore, why should I make myself mad in my own home? So over the next half hour or so, I'm going to be ripping into Twisted Metal 3 by and large. But please understand I don't enjoy this. I will be much happier if Twisted Metal 3 was a game that I enjoyed playing without any sort of asterisk, and could actually get excited about covering. But that's not the world in which we live. I've made my bed, now it's time to sleep in it. So how did twisted metal 3 in its current state come to be? Well the long and the short of it is, when SingleTrac split from Sony to do their own thing, they took the Twisted Metal game engine with them, so while Sony held the rights to the intellectual property, they had to find a new developer to create a brand new game from the ground up. They ended up getting an internal development team, 989 studios to do it, who also assisted development with other games by SingleTrac. So it was not a bad idea in theory. So what went wrong? Well it starts with the fact that apparently they only had 9 months of development time. Which even for 1998 was a bit tight when you were building an engine from the ground up. So you take a short development time, mix it with a studio that's splitting their focus between several games at a time, and add a splash of potential inexperience with the genre given that they'd never been the main developers, and the result is this.
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@TBP
@TBP 11 ай бұрын
Don't ask me how I feel about the TV show, that will get its own video soon.
@EnlightenedTrucker
@EnlightenedTrucker 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the show. I look forward to the video!
@ViremasterOfUSA
@ViremasterOfUSA 11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to it. Subbed.
@miltonpitts4185
@miltonpitts4185 11 ай бұрын
@@damian_cross that’s what it needed to be. Not bad
@pleasesmokes5286
@pleasesmokes5286 11 ай бұрын
Needs more sweet tooth
@Artemis_262
@Artemis_262 11 ай бұрын
It was good imo
@Bardia006plus1
@Bardia006plus1 11 ай бұрын
The fact that they manged to make an engine and make and release this game in 9 month is kind of a miracle
@Roggor
@Roggor 11 ай бұрын
As you go back in time in development history, time frames for games shorten drastically An AAA game today, needing 5 years and 300 development, could be done in the 90s under a year with 25 people and that's including the intern/coffee boy.
@MrRBX
@MrRBX 11 ай бұрын
Games were much simpler
@matg9844
@matg9844 11 ай бұрын
They were indeed simpler by today's standards, but still pretty complicated, especially with that kind of time frame. There's a reason PSX hacks are somewhat rare compared to cartridge games.
@georgebaynard4096
@georgebaynard4096 11 ай бұрын
More like a monkey’s paw
@blockwearingman
@blockwearingman 11 ай бұрын
it was a really dumb idea
@nicksignore8301
@nicksignore8301 11 ай бұрын
I grew up on TM2, but I actually have a lot of good memories playing TM3 and TM4 with siblings. It's a weird feeling seeing games you loved as kids get shit on for being terrible, but I think as kids we simply leaned on the games that we had access to. We also had a lot less basis for what was good and what was a bad game, so we just enjoyed them regardless.
@LostBeetle
@LostBeetle 11 ай бұрын
It's because it's actually a good game. Especially for the time. Weird and the atmosphere doesn't feel like twisted metal? Sure. But still a good game.
@Space_Ghost_Hunter
@Space_Ghost_Hunter 11 ай бұрын
Its not really that bad of a game, just not the best TM game. But still fun.
@shinji1264
@shinji1264 11 ай бұрын
They were good games as a kid I didn't give af about the story and guess what in 2023 I give even less of a crap bout story
@zipherdias420
@zipherdias420 10 ай бұрын
No, its ok, its just they think they have to conflate a bunch of stuff and basically sensationalize bad takes to get more views. its a new youtuber tactic that I hate because it throws shade on things that don't deserve it.
@c8h8e8c8k8m8e8o8u8t
@c8h8e8c8k8m8e8o8u8t 10 ай бұрын
TM4 was a 10.
@spoonmugen5599
@spoonmugen5599 11 ай бұрын
There was a group of people that did make some fan-improved ending concepts for this game. For Warthog, they had Rogers mortally wounded, yet he's still able to tell Calypso his wish. Calypso actually does make him fully young again, and Rogers is grateful for it. In return for granting his wish, Calypso asks of a favor to him, which he obliges. The following year, Roadkill/Marcus seems to have won the tournament, but just one catch. Captain Rogers has taken Minion/Primeval's place as the big boss of the contest, and is piloting an M1 Abrams tank. Marcus can only watch in shock and horror as he gets blown to bits. Auger actually goes for the wish mentioned in the profile, and even twists it against Calypso. Auger wished that wherever his company built/redesigned something at is permanently off-limits from Calypso's contest. Unbeknownst to Calypso, Auger's company built or redesigned things practically everywhere on Earth, allowing society to heal and improve while Calypso has a tantrum over it. Until he realizes he can host the contest in the sky (or space). Club kid wanted to host a party that would make international headlines, with him at the center of the mosh pit. The twist, it's a dance party full of Zombies, and he's the only human. Lastly, Flower Power. She basically gets rid of all man made structures and basically make life like it's Adam and Eve. People are pissed she probably killed millions from that stunt (People in hospitals, for example), and chase after her in an angry mob.
@personman1148
@personman1148 10 ай бұрын
Where I can I find this group?
@spoonmugen5599
@spoonmugen5599 10 ай бұрын
@@personman1148 Just look up "Twisted Metal 3 Better endings". They only got those four on standby. The rest were lost as the site it was on was deleted, but one got lucky to save some of it.
@davidmuir405
@davidmuir405 10 ай бұрын
Where can we see these endings you speak of?
@nickrustyson8124
@nickrustyson8124 10 ай бұрын
God I would love a Twisted Metal in the sky, think Crimson Skies, but more handmade shit and more themed vehicles
@Agentshadling
@Agentshadling 10 ай бұрын
Thank goodness fans don't make the endings
@napalmsanctuaryx4129
@napalmsanctuaryx4129 11 ай бұрын
The biggest issue is that it came AFTER Twisted Metal 2 and Vigilante 8, the 2 best games in the genre.
@vengefuljuggalo
@vengefuljuggalo 11 ай бұрын
V8 is so good. That and Rogue Trip 2012 were a lot of fun compared to TM3
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын
@@vengefuljuggalo V8 2nd offense was the peak for me, it played the same as original (even had the first game's levels unlockable) but also added more characters and upgrades for cars.
@brianlawl1
@brianlawl1 10 ай бұрын
TM2 was def the peak of the tm
@napalmsanctuaryx4129
@napalmsanctuaryx4129 10 ай бұрын
@KasumiR while I liked the expansion of vehicles and levels in 2nd offense, I hated the traversal pickups, and how you needed them to drive properly on certain surfaces. It just gummed up the flow of the gameplay IMO.
@pbanks2384
@pbanks2384 10 ай бұрын
@@brianlawl1 I personally don't think TM2 is better than TM Black.
@Issac_The_Last_N7
@Issac_The_Last_N7 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved Twisted Metal 3. It was nice when enemies would battle others instead of only attacking you
@LEWIS1992
@LEWIS1992 10 ай бұрын
Good point. The guy in this video doesn't mention the A.I. at all - it's WAY better than in the first 2 games.
@bremaster93
@bremaster93 10 ай бұрын
@@LEWIS1992Twisted Metal 3 is underrated. Loved it as well when enemies would kill each other too. I hate when the A.I. would only go after me. That should have been an optional thing in the other games.
@DementedDistraction
@DementedDistraction 10 ай бұрын
The enemies fighting each other was definitely a blessing considering that in addition to the enemies themselves, you also had to constantly fight with the horrible camera, terrible controls, and even worse physics engine.
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 10 ай бұрын
Like Black, where all the enemies will seek your ass out.
@Skitskl33
@Skitskl33 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but the TM3 and 4 AI would also seek out health pickups when their health was low which was BS.
@MrRBX
@MrRBX 11 ай бұрын
3 was my fave as a kid. The 4 player split screen was so much fun. 3 and 4 was always a hit in my house among friends until Black came and took the crown. And yes we played 2 first
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын
People forget how in 2 you can't even make multiplayer deathmatch with computer enemies on screen. Multiplayer is EITHER duels or two against campaign with levels in always same order. 3 or 4 improved on free play MASSIVELY.
@brianlawl1
@brianlawl1 10 ай бұрын
@@KasumiRINA i just love TM 2s gameplay way more. the crazy jumps and the ramming make it for me. felt way more like an arcade and captured the essence of the series
@Ry-dy8xr
@Ry-dy8xr 11 ай бұрын
It's been a couple decades at this point, but my brother and I as kids beat this game in my uncle's basement with his pair of steering wheels. I remember that the steering controls actually worked pretty well, which is something I can say would have been impossible on TM2
@christopherpho9424
@christopherpho9424 10 ай бұрын
The main issue I had was that Calypso won every wish. With every other game, there is one character that gets one over Calypso (usually Sweettooth). In TM3, like you said, their wishes are all goofy which just disincentivized me from playing.
@buttslapper6969
@buttslapper6969 11 ай бұрын
I actually really like the artstyle of 3 and 4, the creepy playdough people kinda fits the weird/dark but goofy feel of twisted metal
@blockwearingman
@blockwearingman 11 ай бұрын
they nailed it in 4
@MobilityInert
@MobilityInert 10 ай бұрын
That shit was revolutionary in the late 90s
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын
@@blockwearingman 4 was really solid, it just didn't use old characters outside of bosses, and levels weren't as memorable as 2 and 3's landmarks.
@naiveveg8447
@naiveveg8447 9 ай бұрын
4 will still be my favorite tm. I like them all but 4 is my goat
@Larry
@Larry 11 ай бұрын
Sony must have had second thoughts too as this game never received a PC port unlike the first two, and was never released outside of the US.
@ZMowlcher
@ZMowlcher 11 ай бұрын
Single Trac is really to blame. They made two good games then decided they're gonna be publishers. 989 wasn't a bad choice either they made Syphon Filter.
@binary1123
@binary1123 11 ай бұрын
Ayoo it's Larry Bundy!
@huuuuuumpy
@huuuuuumpy 11 ай бұрын
@@ZMowlcher lol I still remember playing the syphon filter demo as a kid just to set bad guys on fire with the tazer.
@hecksters423
@hecksters423 11 ай бұрын
​@@huuuuuumpyUNLIMITED POWERRRRRR!!!
@siempreretorna
@siempreretorna 10 ай бұрын
Saw your video, you suck playing this game xd
@stanxd0
@stanxd0 11 ай бұрын
I still laugh at how absurd the endings are, my favourite part of this game.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 11 ай бұрын
Mr Grimms ending is just.....why?
@noahboat580
@noahboat580 11 ай бұрын
I like it when hes like "your wish is to *hang with your homies?* " i just find it so goofy regardless of the grim connotations
@160sharp
@160sharp 10 ай бұрын
Worst part of the game
@flyingferron
@flyingferron 10 ай бұрын
I give props to 989 for TM 3, doing what they could in the short time frame they had while still trying to make a game that mostly fits in with its predecessors, by way of the vehicles/character roster and "world tour" aspect of the tournament. TM 4 after that though went too far off the deep end for me to try giving it the same praise.
@towertooth456
@towertooth456 10 ай бұрын
There’s plenty of voice actors who worked on this game, though not a ton of lines. In the character select menu you could read each character’s description, and you would hear it read in their voices.
@julestheraccoon
@julestheraccoon 9 ай бұрын
I was going to say this, too. There are WAY more than just 1 voice actor in this game.
@mdpofficial
@mdpofficial 11 ай бұрын
I played TM3 when it first came out. It felt like your best friend decided to change to fit in with the cool kids, ditching you.
@etbonz3499
@etbonz3499 6 күн бұрын
Very well said!
@Kuson2
@Kuson2 10 ай бұрын
The problem with TM3 is its both a victim of a short development cycle and the idea of "We can, therefore we should". "We can ditch the comic book style cutscenes and add cutting edge 3D animation". "We can add rollover physics and realistic steering mechanics". "We can take design liberties with already established characters". They then proceeded to half ass all of it because they didn't have a choice or the time to do any of it properly. Its honestly a Miracle that it came out even half as good as it did.
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 4 ай бұрын
I wonder why AXEL needed an animation to flip over, when hes basicly stuck in a giant GYROSCOPE why wouldnt he just turn his body right side-up
@doopderp
@doopderp 11 ай бұрын
As happy as I am for this! Just as eager to hear your thoughts on the show and it's direction.
@El_Febo_Abel
@El_Febo_Abel 10 ай бұрын
The endings in TM2 have something that was missing in this 3rd installment: All the characters have interactions with Calypso, Calypso never knows their wishes before their meeting and some wishes overcome the unfortunate twist (some even turn against Calypso). The only thing that I found "bad" was that they needed more voices (Twister does not speak in his own final) and not repeating so many Calypso sketches, but they are details that never tarnished the game for me.
@LeeEverett1
@LeeEverett1 10 ай бұрын
I remember as a kid feeling something was massively off about TM3 and just not enjoying it compared to TM2 which I kept going back to until 4 came out. The soundtrack was pretty much the best thing about this game.
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 7 ай бұрын
The songs in Level 2 and 3 are the phoniest crap songs Ive ever heard. TM4 had more "so bad theyre good" songs way better soundtrack
@Canada407
@Canada407 11 ай бұрын
So glad to see you talk about this in full. Been waiting for awhile
@clearmountain28
@clearmountain28 9 ай бұрын
If you are open to suggestions, could you do a discussion on twisted metal lost; in particular what you think of the change in the characters motivations (as well as the new character they added Severed Sam) and what you think they would have wished for and/or how the wish would have been twisted.
@Mikewee777
@Mikewee777 11 ай бұрын
The game objectives are unclear beyond : " Shoot at this box " .
@Nahpax
@Nahpax 10 ай бұрын
The clips at 5:20 and 20:45 unlocked a core memory. I can't tell you how many times I had to quit out and restart a level because my vehicle got stuck in a completely vertical position shimmying side to side.
@markkroman4545
@markkroman4545 11 ай бұрын
I love how Spectre is quite literally driving a 2nd Gen. Dodge Viper lmfaooo
@Cheeto65788
@Cheeto65788 11 ай бұрын
Twisted metal 4 is a gem in my book. I don't care what anyone says.
@ulyssestyler9685
@ulyssestyler9685 11 ай бұрын
it's not awful but I think it's still one of the lower-ranking TM games. Still better than a lot of the "off-brand" car combat games imo.
@TheKongdoo
@TheKongdoo 10 ай бұрын
It is surely underrated.
@TrapeZoid_-117
@TrapeZoid_-117 5 ай бұрын
The worst part about the endings is that they are pretty easy to fix. Outlaws could easily have been “oh, everyone collectively agrees that nothing is illegal and the world falls into chaos”. Meanwhile, they could have used outlaw’s ending for Auger. Just change his wish to making his buildings indestructible, then reveal most of his business was reconstructing the buildings.
@littlezimty
@littlezimty 11 ай бұрын
I think "Regeneration" might have been intended to address the concern from the previous games where the endgame levels could feel like a 1v7 because computer players did little damage to each other. Spacing out the spawns means you're less likely to get overwhelmed by a bunch of enemies targeting you at the same time.
@mrpeeps1455
@mrpeeps1455 9 ай бұрын
Last time I played TM3 was in '03. Dad and I often played videogames, mom as well. I mean I'd come home from school, walk in and there he was, immersed in the game. I miss those days.
@StormDragonZ
@StormDragonZ 11 ай бұрын
I remember having to make a decision between getting Twisted Metal 3 or Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus, and I picked Oddworld. Never played TM3. Later on, I got around to seeing how it was, and I do not feel bad anymore about my choice.
@stefcannon2580
@stefcannon2580 10 ай бұрын
I’ve just discovered your channel through these Twisted Metal videos, great job! I used to play TM3 with my school friend way back as he had a copy, but not since until yesterday when I got my own copy to help complete my TM set. I’ve been through the first few levels as Thumper, and somewhat enjoy it so far. Strange with him not having his flamethrower but variety can be good. I like the idea of flipping over but wish it was more like Vigilante 8 where you flip yourself back upright. Great to have more Calypso commentary though!
@tyrantm7
@tyrantm7 11 ай бұрын
As the first Twisted Metal game i owned and played, it was amazing without having the others to compare it to. Add that i had friends who played it with me for hours and we used cheat codes for extra fun. Its a nostalgia trip. Hindsight, not a great game, but the memories are great. ❤
@tinkerer3399
@tinkerer3399 11 ай бұрын
Memories are what life is all about.
@gooblaka
@gooblaka 10 ай бұрын
I actually really enjoyed Twisted Metal III but then again it was my introduction to the series. That aside, as a game developer, I can tell you that this game suffered from many different things. The first major point of contention is that when Sony acquired the intellectual rights to the series, they failed to really press the original creators on giving them the game engine as part of that acquisition. As a result, when they handed off 3's production to an in-house studio, the requirement to make an engine from scratch probably consumed most of the time and resources, and it probably got to the point of, "If it's playable, ship it." Another point is the creative direction of the game. Every ending felt like a big fuck you to the player, as each ending resulted in the driver being screwed over no matter what. It's like the writing staff that created the character profiles had little communication with the writers who drafted the endings, when really they should have been the same people if they weren't. That causes a huge tonal inconsistency such as with Auger's profile vs his ending. The endings should have been made more sinister, leaving some room for interpretation or a much more ironic result from the winner suffering from their wish. Making everything a mandatory monkey's paw is contrived, lazy and makes the endings predictable once you've seen just two of them to confirm it, Take for example Twisted Metal 2's Hammerhead. They wished for the ability to fly, and Calypso provided... them airline tickets. It was a funny and ironic ending, and if it were handled by 3's ending writer staff, they would have probably been turned into flies or something, and die when Calypso swats them. Endings need to either provide a twist of irony, consequences as the result of the winner's own actions, or set up for a sequel with a cannon ending. At the end of the day, Twisted Metal III suffered from a short development time (even if it was the 90s and for a PS1 game), but particularly from needing to have a whole new engine created from scratch.
@elmoreoocyte
@elmoreoocyte 10 ай бұрын
Will you do Interstate 76 and Vigilante 8 at any point?
@RaineAsteria
@RaineAsteria 11 ай бұрын
I was so much more a Vigilante 8 fan than I was Twisted Metal, but I always pay respects to what I think is the OG of the genre.
@USAirsoft
@USAirsoft 10 ай бұрын
Been watching for a long while now, just wanted to say that I’ve been loving all your stuff! Can’t wait to see your review on the TM series on peacock. I really enjoyed it but had to turn my brain off a lot.
@BleedForTheWorld
@BleedForTheWorld 11 ай бұрын
I kid you not, when I was still in my early-mid teens in 1999, I was at Best Buy and I had the option to choose THIS game or Super Smash Bros for the N64. Guess which one I went for? I was a huuuuuuuuge Twisted Metal fan and I had to swallow my pride and selfishness that day because I still think back on how much I would have regretted getting TWISTED METAL 3 and how much it would have changed my life based on this decision because I got my buddies at the time into Smash Bros (4 dudes, 2 of them younger than us). They would come over my house and it would be A. BLAST. Other people had LAN parties or whatever but we had Smash Bros. My older brother would even come in and play with us at some point and that would be 6 dudes in a rather small space. It didn't last very long because the next year was the year that everyone went to a different school and I was the only one that didn't attend the school they went to. I guess you could say it was the exact opposite of the experience I had with them some several months before. To elaborate a bit further, it was my brother that convinced in the end because we would watch the Smash Bros. TV ad and we thought the game must be amazing. Before I left to the store and pick this up instead of TWISTED METAL 3, he said, "Get Smash Brothers! Don't get Twisted Metal!!". If you made it this far, thanks for reading.
@Mikewee777
@Mikewee777 11 ай бұрын
Smash Bros was a broken game with a weird three handle controller . At least Twisted Metal was balanced enough to prevent hackers from starting glitch tournaments .
@ThatGuyChristo474
@ThatGuyChristo474 10 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to how you would fix the endings.
@creativerealms
@creativerealms 11 ай бұрын
I had this friend in high school that insisted Twisted Metal 3 was superior to the first two games.
@Mikewee777
@Mikewee777 11 ай бұрын
It is superior .
@RobotReg
@RobotReg 11 ай бұрын
Your friend is wrong
@TrippingHawk
@TrippingHawk 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, a good handful of mid to late 90s games give me motion sickness now. I think it's due to them being played on much larger, clearer screens than what they were intended to be played on. I can play the original Half-Life on my old CRT for hours, but anytime I hook it up to my main TV, I get motion sickness within like 30 min.
@akistheman
@akistheman 11 ай бұрын
Twisted Metal 3 was my first game of the franchise I got to experience as a child but not even my nostalgia makes this game look good
@simonbelmont65
@simonbelmont65 11 ай бұрын
Twisted Metal 2 is 100 times better than Twisted Metal 3.
@akistheman
@akistheman 11 ай бұрын
@@simonbelmont65 agreed
@fabiozonatto2554
@fabiozonatto2554 8 ай бұрын
Lol whatever dood.
@timwardo5877
@timwardo5877 10 ай бұрын
I genuinely pogged when i heard you mention a way to fix every Tm3 ending. I’m actually playing every game atm and ranking every single driver. I love TM3’s terrible endings but realizing i have to sit through so many…not looking forward to it
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын
Oh come on they're like 30 seconds long.
@timwardo5877
@timwardo5877 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@KasumiRINAyes but the same 30 second cutscene with slight changes in what calypso says and what character fets bad ended…yeah its just going to get tiresome after the 5th one.
@GNoMe610
@GNoMe610 11 ай бұрын
I have such fond memories of playing marathon TM2 co-op and deathmatch sessions with friends into the wee hours of the morning. This game also brings back strong feelings... What is the opposite of nostalgia?
@hatboi_xd
@hatboi_xd 10 ай бұрын
Twisted Metal 3 made my wife leave me.
@Rocket_Skates
@Rocket_Skates 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely hated the tonal shift in three and four. It was like a dark, gritty, edgy comic book being adapted into a Saturday morning cartoon.
@LobsterPuncher
@LobsterPuncher 10 ай бұрын
I actually love TM3. Almost as much as 2. Sure it was different, but I had a blast as a kid with this and still play it to this day from time to time.
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 4 ай бұрын
4 is better though it has a lot of fucked up issues. I still play 3 too and its frustrating as fuck with the cars going straight for the Health Items goddamn the coders for that
@metrosity5863
@metrosity5863 10 ай бұрын
Its crazy to see how big your channel has gotten. I still remember when you had 13k subscribers. Good Job!
@Absolhunter251
@Absolhunter251 10 ай бұрын
I may have missed this one. I only played TM1 and 2 and 4. But this was…wow, what? But on the flip side, I love the fact I get to see calypso with his VA from TM2. But wow, seeing this one… the sounds don’t have that punch that 2 had. 😮 My fellow man, you are awesome and the only one I know who is another Twisted metal fan! Looking forward to more!
@TheWickedArcade
@TheWickedArcade 11 ай бұрын
Can u make a tm easter egg video? With each one from each game.
@combatking0
@combatking0 9 ай бұрын
We didn't get TM3 or 4 over here in the UK, so I was always interested in seeing what they were like.
@darrinfromvault801
@darrinfromvault801 10 ай бұрын
Running Wild is another 989 game that could deserve a video being shit on. As a kid in 1999 i had a classmate related to someone who worked at 989. When i asked if he could get me a copy of that game he said 'Why would you want that? That game sucks'
@IAMTHESTARMAN
@IAMTHESTARMAN 10 ай бұрын
Regarding using energy for reverse shots, it’s to keep you engaged in a battle and not simply run from battle the entire time. My brother was a Spectre main, and it was annoying as hell to chase him and only to get spammed.
@NoeIram
@NoeIram 11 ай бұрын
As a kid, I never owned TM1 but owned 2, 3, & 4. I never really saw the glaring issues of 3 as a kid which is why I occasionally swapped between 2 & 3 when I was itching to play. I played through a bit of TM4 but eventually quit that game as I could never beat Sweet Tooth and my usual cheese method of baiting cars onto the rollercoaster to get mowed down doesnt work, since the cart is destroyed when Sweet Tooth arrives. Completely forgot about the buddy car system and remembered how I would always use to and tried to keep my friend alive. That being said, TM3 did not age well in the slightest.
@neon_vendingmachine
@neon_vendingmachine 9 ай бұрын
Your intro has this 90's feel to it, like a Primus music video or something... i love it lol
@NicolasOlivas
@NicolasOlivas 11 ай бұрын
tw3 is my favorite. I always wondered why tw3 have so much backlash among the TW community . But I can see many of the points youve made. Still i had a blast most of the times I played, and probably since this was the only one I had when I was a kid, made difficult to compare with other games.
@RobotReg
@RobotReg 11 ай бұрын
People hate the awful story and endings.
@super8bitable
@super8bitable 11 ай бұрын
@@RobotRegAnd the very wonky gameplay
@NicolasOlivas
@NicolasOlivas 10 ай бұрын
@@RobotReg i guess not understanding english till my late teens was good for something then 🤣🤣
@Itiswrittenkjv1611
@Itiswrittenkjv1611 10 ай бұрын
​@@RobotRegthose ppl should be playing games for gameplay. You want a story read a book.
@Itiswrittenkjv1611
@Itiswrittenkjv1611 10 ай бұрын
​@@super8bitablegameplay was solid
@Proutbedaine
@Proutbedaine 10 ай бұрын
You shared pretty much every single thoughts I had about the game when I played through it recently with every character and researched myself on it's development history. The good, like the bad and etc. Couldn't agree more on everything. Except the lil bit about TM4 at the end though which caught me a bit by surprise! Since personally I saw it as a big improvement in every single aspect to TM3. But again, missing the point thematically and also still not being as good as TM2 overall or TM1 in most aspects even. So I'm definitely pretty curious to see why it's the worse one for you and hear your opinion about it! Always enjoyed your reviews and I'm sure I'll enjoy that one too and you'll have an interesting angle on it. My best guess would be, based on your past reviews and your mentions of what you liked in the series (which among the many things was when the games playthrough were short and sweet), is that your biggest grippe would be that it overstays it's welcome by being 8 stages long on top of having boss fights at each stage? Which personally I both liked that aspect of it and kinda was annoyed at times with it too. Especially since I did it with all 22 characters + one custom car hahaha! But I guess that in itself shows my level of patience which is certainly more than most (and not that makes me better than anyone btw.) Now that I think about it, I think you mentioned that issue you had with it, before in one of your videos. But I'm curious if there's more to it too. So yeah, looking forward to that one! :)
@druid54us
@druid54us 11 ай бұрын
Even as a kid I wondered why the fuck the cars on the intro keep swerving lol that was the actual cursed part for me
@ulyssestyler9685
@ulyssestyler9685 11 ай бұрын
Funnily enough that's how controlling the cars feels lol. But yeah it does make the cutscene look worse than the actual models do.
@technounionrepresentative4274
@technounionrepresentative4274 11 ай бұрын
I have not played many twisted metal games, this is one of the few that i have played what turned me off of it was the endings, i remember completing this for the first time as auger, I picked him because i liked his motivations displayed in his bio, The ending would have made more sense for nearly every other character even sweet tooth
@Mikewee777
@Mikewee777 11 ай бұрын
I could tolerate the bad controls and graphics . I drew the line at the fact that the AI has no aggro control . They just spam blindly and deny players access to any recovery time . The game objectives are unclear beyond : " Shoot at this box " .
@alienman-_-
@alienman-_- 10 ай бұрын
You should do a ranking of calypso of each twisted metal game (maybe even 4?)
@docholiday4129
@docholiday4129 10 ай бұрын
This game just makes me feel bad for Mel McMurrin, he was such a good voice actor as Calypso and that's all he was ever famous for. What's worse is that 2 of those roles were associated with 2 of the worst games in the franchise.
@RogueHero
@RogueHero 10 ай бұрын
I remember playing twisted metal 2 & 3 with my homies in the 90s , man what a time to be alive. Im so happy the show is a success.
@brianlawl1
@brianlawl1 10 ай бұрын
the show sucks to people who love TM
@Go_Coup
@Go_Coup 10 ай бұрын
I’m so confused. Is this the Rob Zombie one?! Almost none of this looks familiar, but I remember listening to the CD. I might have listened to it more than I used it to play the game.
@rihoonigan
@rihoonigan 10 ай бұрын
I remember wanting this game for Christmas but my older brother said he wouldn't get me any video games for a present... I had TM2 and created a cheat/code book in hopes my cousin would make an trade 😅 We never traded nor never had the chance to play it and I'm happy it played out that way. I think Vigilante 8 ended up coming out soon after and TM3,TM4 became an after thought until TM Black and Smal Brawl came out. Can't wait to see what you have coming up next! Also, Old school Attila goes so well with TM2 🤙
@harryvass9018
@harryvass9018 Ай бұрын
Doubt you'll care but when I started my first job doing the night shift I loved listening to your videos and I loved this video the most it was great listening to this while I worked I have a better job now but I just wanted to say thanks for making videos like these that helped make that stressful job bearable
@sebastiancintron29
@sebastiancintron29 11 ай бұрын
When you play games like Twisted Metal 2 or Black, going back to this game just shows how bad it truly is. Both tonally and gameplay wise.
@awsomebootsironmelon8998
@awsomebootsironmelon8998 11 ай бұрын
I think you can fix outlaws ending by making it a lawless world so there is no laws to break so no crime
@blockwearingman
@blockwearingman 11 ай бұрын
fr
@kojithedark6866
@kojithedark6866 10 ай бұрын
idk but now i'm curious what u will say about twisted metal 4
@PowderedToastMan3
@PowderedToastMan3 9 ай бұрын
I like how Darkside, who is literally Satan, is the boss of the Washington DC level. Really makes you think.
@typoking
@typoking 4 күн бұрын
when you are at about half-health, enemies will chase you. use this to your advantage by firing weapons backward at them. You can even get out ahead, do a quick 180, hit the ice-code, and freeze enemies before they can do you anymore damage, then lay into them until they're dead.
@MrsxLadieeb
@MrsxLadieeb 10 ай бұрын
Yo I haaaaaated the damn blimp stage. Who knew to hit those dumb controls to stop the enemies from regenerating. Without the strategy guide i believe how would you figure that shyt out? I only did cuz I had invincibility code and I had plenty of time to drive around and figure that shyt out.
@whompywhomperson2139
@whompywhomperson2139 11 ай бұрын
I loved playing this as a kid but I also played TM2 first and noticed something was off. I also remember one of my older cousins talking smack on it(and being a kid I thought he was only saying that because I was playing it) Tried playing it recently and man it was really rough to go back to. Nowadays I'm willing to believe they blew a lot of their budget on the soundtrack lol
@AutisticMan2004
@AutisticMan2004 10 ай бұрын
Regarding Outlaws ending, better twist idea, no crime because there's no such thing as laws anymore
@vibinrat8552
@vibinrat8552 10 ай бұрын
Found this channel a few days ago and its how I learned of twisted metal. I just wanted to say thanks for introducing me to a really cool game series through your awesome content, tbp.
@WhipLashJimmyFrank
@WhipLashJimmyFrank 10 ай бұрын
9 months basically building an engine from scratch is one thing. It’s also another thing when one of the mandatory levels is literally just a flat square with 1 elevated surface, that’s your helping.
@thewanderer4336
@thewanderer4336 10 ай бұрын
What do you all think the worst TM game is? Do you think its whats coming up in the next video?
@commandervile394
@commandervile394 9 ай бұрын
I'm biased but Twisted Metal 3 was my first TM game and being around 10-11 years old at the time of receiving a Playstation 1 back in the 90's, Twisted Metal 3 also introduced me to my first real big interests in Industrial Metal/Rock music, such as Rob Zombie and Pitchshifter.
@Reallife315
@Reallife315 10 ай бұрын
Good video. Now I wanna play it. It’s been so long. I do have a hard copy. But I could’ve sworn this was also released on the ps3 as a ps classic. I know one and two were. Can’t remember for sure on this one …..
@necessarychaos
@necessarychaos 11 ай бұрын
Old man here I lived through all the twisted metal series and this one made me and my friends so mad because we thought the level design was great but the driving was nothing like tm2 also I like what you did there pulling the calypso saying twisted metal makes me sick
@johanrey1416
@johanrey1416 11 ай бұрын
I know this game is bad, but there are things that fans are wrongly accusing this game and 989 Studios of a couple of things they didn't do. Most infamous was calling Needles Kane, "Sweet Tooth" to the character and the vehicle, despite Twisted Metal 2 did that in his own ending. And Outlaw's Officer Carl changed his name to Buzz which again Twisted Metal 2 did that first until Head-On changed back to Carl.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 10 ай бұрын
Not an uncommon phenomenon.
@LonelySpaceDetective
@LonelySpaceDetective 9 ай бұрын
Even the first game has Calypso calling Needles "Sweet Tooth" in a pair of endings, and 2 IIRC also has Calypso referring to a bunch of other drivers by the name of their vehicle; indicating that they're not just car names but also the title or alias of the driver. Not to mention that "Sweet Tooth" _does_ works as a name for the clown in a way. Like is it really so unbelievable that people may take to nicknaming a serial killer who drives around in an ice cream truck "Sweet Tooth" or "the Sweet Tooth killer"?
@rogeliorufin9204
@rogeliorufin9204 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to think that Flower Power wasn't so much a serious potrayal of hippies, moreso thode celebrity types who act like they give a shit about the environment but only care about the clout they'll get if they do.
@IconicBoar097
@IconicBoar097 11 ай бұрын
granny dread's bio seemed to set up her ending of wanting to watch tv away from all the noise of the tournament only for the ending to be completely stupid i always imagined she'd wish to be able to watch tv in a quiet place and then calypso puts her on the moon or something similar
@darkdemonwerewolf
@darkdemonwerewolf 10 ай бұрын
19:15 Are you joking? I'd say sweet tooth has one of the best endings in small brawl. That freaking grin right before the final cutaway.
@TBP
@TBP 10 ай бұрын
Small Brawl came out several months after Black
@scottfisher1311
@scottfisher1311 10 ай бұрын
I picked up the series over the past few days after admiring from a distance for years and seeing these vids be posted. I wanted to make my own opinion before seeing others. Playing all of them in order with only the last 2 missions in Twisted Metal PS3 to go, I find the series such a mixed bag. I liked 1, was mixed on 2, didnt like 3, despised 4 with a passion, was neutral on Small Brawl, Loved Black and have been bown away by PS3. Probubly contraversial to suggest a genre switch but id love to see a new Twisted Metal that plays like Jak X Combat Racing. Great Video Btw!
@joelowes7893
@joelowes7893 10 ай бұрын
Hey great videos by the way and yes fixing the endings for twisted metal 3 would be amazing
@Apache616
@Apache616 11 ай бұрын
Even though this was my introduction to the series i loved it and got into White Zombie because of it, I can still accept that it’s not the best in the franchise. That being said still leaving a “like” simply because i just love this channel.
@garvensman
@garvensman 13 күн бұрын
True story: One day I was playing this, getting all the endings. Get to the Primevil fight, and it ended before I ever saw him. Yep, he fell down the hole on his own.
@MadMax-el2el
@MadMax-el2el 11 ай бұрын
The sound track that came with it at launch was "good"... i hated 989 after this abomination, the car flipping and sloppy controls drove me nuts But i still love the character endings. They are just soooooo fuq'en bad
@KineticRhyme
@KineticRhyme 10 ай бұрын
I think the Regeneration feature could work if, along with spawning new enemies, the game would give you a full health repair and a couple more weapons/pickups automatically too.
@jjohnson71958
@jjohnson71958 11 ай бұрын
whats the name of calypso again? and does he have an email
@theinvincible316
@theinvincible316 11 ай бұрын
As much as my dumb 11 year old self liked 3 back then, I probably got more use from it as an audio CD than a game. I felt so cool when I learned you could do that, it was like being in a secret club or something. And it was how I first discovered Rob Zombie. I don’t pretend to be a massive metalhead or anything, but I do still enjoy his music casually from time to time. Also, the only game that has made me motion sick was Assassins Creed Black Flag, that freaking boat… Great video, appreciate you sharing your thoughts, can’t wait for 4 and the show.
@audunjemtland8287
@audunjemtland8287 10 ай бұрын
Did this ever release on PS1?
@paulhuskey8026
@paulhuskey8026 3 ай бұрын
I originally played Vigilante 8, then tried this on a demo disc. Despite coming out the same year as V8, it felt so basic. Like you said, the scaling makes it feel like you're driving toys. The entire game is running at a super low resolution, and I was expecting more to do besides 'blow everyone up'.
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 11 ай бұрын
I missed playing this one as a kid. My older cousin let me play the games on his Playstation when I was young.. that or it was so bad I forgotten about it
@packattackallday
@packattackallday 9 ай бұрын
TM3 was my first in the TM series. Only played that, 4, and Black. The nostalgia of 3 keeps me coming back. The one thing that always irritated me was accidentally jumping or sending the freeze. So I randomly start jumping on the map for no reason…That and the lack of control and flipping over was always annoying. That said, I never got into TM4. In fact, I never played beyond the 2nd map. I just get/got bored of it. Can’t explain why as I recall the control of vehicles being a lot better.
@huuuuuumpy
@huuuuuumpy 11 ай бұрын
I always wondered if we thought TM Black was so good simply because of how awful the games between 2 and it were. Shout-out to all the NPCs who just sat through a 23m video on why this game is ass and still type up "Idk why people dont like this game and think it sucks" lmao. Develop a real personality and stop relying on contrarianism to distinguish yourself from the crowd. Sometimes the crowd is right.
@felipemagalhaes8028
@felipemagalhaes8028 10 ай бұрын
Only now I realized that Firestarter was a reference to The Prodigy's Keith Flint
@korhol2065
@korhol2065 11 ай бұрын
Despite how bad the endings are, a few somehow elevate it to so bad it’s actually good Some like Auger are stupid while ones like outlaw are prettt funny because of that ridiculous premise, and the hell Michigan was pretty clever too. These endings just need either a new premise or just add more polish
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын
I wish original TM also kept the cinematic endings TBH, it's all very charming.
@LilApe
@LilApe 9 ай бұрын
TM3 was literally the 1st video game I ever played back in I think 98 or 99. I actually love it more than TM2. I would say TM4 is actually my favorite in the series.
@Jaimas
@Jaimas 9 ай бұрын
I wanna share with you the reason they gave the rear attack an energy cost, because it's really stupid. If you are playing a character whose rear weapon can't actually rear-fire, such as Outlaw, if you fire it off, the rear fire completely bypasses the attack cooldown - you can do this to fire off three or four specials in succession, no problem, and use it to basically instant kill things with some of the Special Weapons. The energy cost was the only way they could stop you from doing it even worse.
@thenoblerot1511
@thenoblerot1511 9 ай бұрын
I love tm3, I enjoy the art style, soundtrack, and stages. The physics weren’t the best but it made you feel like more of a physical object instead of a voxel. Also there is voice acting in the character bios.
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