As a Lightning owner, I 100% agree with the guys. Thanks!

2023 Lightning Pro owner. I've owned cars with maxed bling, and after a couple of weeks it's just a bangle, never actually used. I don't even use all of the extras that come with the Pro! Fantastic vehicle, and you do not need a $10,000 upgrade to power your home manually. I have a NEMA 14-50 in my garage for level 2 charging, and if you splice a pigtail for two of the Lightnings Pro power outlets into one NEMA-50 plug, you have 40 amps at 240 volts right back into your house AFTER flipping the 200 amp breaker to isolate the system...not automatic, but it works. What you will realize when you own an EV, is that range, not speed is the goal....you will slow down, and you'll be safer to boot!!

It's all about charging....I have never had a trip where I wasn't ready to stop before the car was. I drove from Fairfield, CT to Lincoln, NH and was in the car for 4 hours and 8 minutes before my charging stop...I was ready to stop after 2 and a half hours. I have a model 3 LR so charging is never an issue. I can't wait for the all the other MFGr's to start using NACS.

2023 Lightning Lariat owner, 10K miles. I agree with them; one thing I'll say is that based on what several videos would imply is that you can write the Lightning off as far as towing. However, I have a 5000lb "couples" 26ft camper, and in western Virginia I have a large number of state parks and other camp grounds within the towing range (which works out to about 130 miles max). You don't have to worry about charging stations in this case, since the camp spots I rent have 14-50 outlets and I can fully charge on the portable charger overnight. Downside is that I can't run the A/C on the camper while charging the truck. I run A/C during the day, later at night when it is cooler I shut it off and start the truck charging.

Great edit! Thanks for having me on again had a blast!

Guys - you hit all the points I share with others as to why I also love my Lightning. Yes, I've towed 8,000 pounds - but only about 50 miles each way. I've carried sand, top soil, building supplies in the bed (not at the same time) and I didn't even notice it when I accelerated from a red light. The frunk has proven to have so many uses - and the low lip makes it much easier to load/unload heavy objects like suitcases. Dave - I think you should find a couple of F150 Lightnings wives to interview - if they're anything like mine they were highly skeptical at first, but have come around to absolutely love it! It's now my wife's vehicle of choice if she has to run errands over her beloved Mini Countryman.

I love my Lightning. I’ve owned 2 previous f150s, the 5.0 and hybrid 3.5. The Lightning is my favorite and has been perfect for our suburban daily use.

I have owned my 2022 Lightning Lariat ER for about 2-1/2 months and 3000 miles, and I agree with the positive comments these two make about the truck. I traded a 2018 XLT with a 2.7L eco boost for mine. The only thing I lost in going from an ICE to an EV was the need to stop at a gas station. One thing that was not mentioned but that I really appreciate is the camera system. With the cameras I can get into some pretty tight parking places without much effort.

Great video, Dave. Thanks for letting these guys carry the heavy load on their experience with their EVs (i.e., do nearly all the talking). Very informative users’ opinions. Two take aways: 1) Yes, we need to move away from “range” anxiety. Once you have an EV, you realize that’s putting a lot of worry on something that’s a minor concern. It’s more “charger anxiety” these days. This will improve with time, as more and more charging stations get built and with the move to NACS. 2) Along the same line, I am far more focused, like these guys, on efficiency (how many Wh/mile is my Tesla M3 SR+ using) and what is the SOC percentage remaining. Those numbers are far more useful than a simple (and simplistic) “range” number in understanding how my vehicle is operating and knowing when I need to recharge. (Thanks to Kyle, I try to get into the single digit percentage SOC when I’m on the road!) Last summer, I drove my Tesla from Sacramento CA to Louisville KY. It was such a fun and easy trip, even with my M3 trim, which is the cheapest, slowest charging, shortest range Tesla they make! Had zero worries, and zero issues (in all the charging stops I made there and back, I had ONE 5 minute wait - I’ve waited longer on hold and in line at the grocery store - and at the Costco gas line back in the bad old days of my ICE vehicle😂!) Great video!

crazy, i'm seeing a few of these Lariet Lightnings popping up for sale now with about 25,000 miles for $45K. Huge hit for the first owner. Hopefully it doesn't detour people from buying them, as i like being a 2nd hand buyer.

This was a great video. I've been thinking about a truck for a while now and this pushed me over the edge to an electric truck. It just makes a ton of sense for me and my small hobby homestead.

I believe most people that are disappointed with their lightnings are because they didn't properly research it prior to purchasing it. Many wouldn't have purchased it had the realized the charging infrastructure just isn't ready yet.

Great video Dave! Awesome to hear the experience of two different use cases

Really great user data and use case scenarios. This really answered a lot of questions. Thank you so much for making this video Dave.

What a terrific interview to not only put together in a lively, interesting way but more importantly, there’s just so much information that was relayed during the interview from all the parties that participated. Awesome job Dave

Great Video. Lightning owner here for 14 months, 22k miles, people just don’t know what they are missing out on. We need more videos like this Dave, helping normal truck people understand that its not hard to switch and its better in every way. I 100% agree with the guys that all the knocks on the lightning that people say are the 1% or less use cases that shouldn’t turn someone away from the Lightning.

The Lightning is one of the best choices in the EV truck space. Glad to see some non-Tesla content. The Lightning is on the radar.

nice one Dave, Mike and Jay. love hearing every day use owners opinions!

I have two "mega" dealerships in my city. Both have several Lightnings, the XLTs are $72k. I just traded my Rivian for an XLT and pocketed $6K. 18 months ago my Rivian sold for $107K on a car auction website. The 2022 XLT I traded it for was listed for $53k on a national car sales website. I love the XLT because I do not like the large screen of the higher trim levels. My XLT was custom ordered with tow max, brake controller, and the 9.6 kW pro power. The XLT is my 10th EV. After driving 2 software-first cars, I simply can't stand the screen-only interface. These have to be cars first. By far the worst thing about software first is aiming the vents. You should not have to stop the car and pull off the road to adjust the aim of the vent.

Interesting interview. We own a Lariat Lightning, 2022 also. We love the truck, and it fits every need we have. Great truck.

Great video Dave. Have over 13K miles on my 2022 Lareit Lightning.

They nailed it! Infrastructure, Infrastructure, Infrastructure!⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

I have a 2022 Lightning Extended Range Lariat. I have been driving trucks for close to 50 years. Chevy C-10's GMC's, F-150's and F-350's along with E150's and E350's. Gas and Diesel. My previous truck was a 2020 F-150 ecoboost. The Lightning is by far the best truck I have ever owned. We drive it everywhere. I could go on, but the best I can say is: Drive one and you'll never go back.

Very Informative. Thank you

Great information! Thank you.

This was great info, thanks.

Great input from 2 real world users thanks 👍

Excellent video thanks for sharing

A very nice interview. I am a 2020 MYP owner. 1. People generally think they drive much further than they really do. If their assessments are realistic the 2 vacations a year that require long distance travel (if they are lucky) could rent the ride of their dreams and still save. 2. Never heard you mention the ease of 1 footed driving. It is super convenient and 1 of the 1st things I thought wasnt needed til I experienced it. 3. Tesla is not as perfect as you imply. I paid for FSD 3 years ago, I am in Beta and it is ok at best. Always defaults to the left lane even though most State laws dont allow it. You mention Ford listens and there are ways to communicate? Are you sure they are listening? Is there a confirmation or acknowledgement from them? Tesla has no such option that shows they listened or cared AND THERE ARE NO PHONE NUMBERS to speak to a human, even in an emergency. The lack of maintenance is a big plus too. I came from an M3 SMG and still enjoy my Tesla for its performance.

Best video you have produced Dave. Great.

I can definitely do without blue cruise. Lane centering and anti collision is all I really need with my cruise control.

I can't find anything wrong with my lightning. I have a platinum so I get a little less range, but hasn't been an issue with me. On average I charge to 85% and haven't ever gone below 15%. On average 60 miles per day. My only complaint would first be public chargers cost too much secondly there's not enough available. But no issues with the truck itself.

I drive a Lightning for work and it is a great truck. I can’t wait to buy one of my own.

Outstanding fun interview. F150 sales are impeded by only higher priced models at dealers, dealer markups, and high interest rates. Leases on all EVs are very expensive now.

I had a preorder for a lightening however the dealers marked them up 20k. I bought a Rivian for MSRP and I’m happy I did.

Great observation about reading your energy gauge instead of relying on what the vehicle says your range is. I own a CX90 PHEV. I have learned that especially in colder weather the range estimate is very pessimistic. The gauge is always more accurate and it is closer to real world (I mean… it is the same thing you do with your ICE vehicle)

My dream truck it is am really learning alot from this review video

I have a lightning and recently purchased a model 3. The lightning is perfect except for road trips, I almost got stuck a couple of times and thankfully played it smart and extra charged (painfully) just to play it safe. Hopefully when the magic dock is available for purchase I won't have any issues driving the lightning wherever I want.

great stuff good information....

Off Topic. Hi Dave. Love your videos. Need advice for my new EQB purchase. What is to do when the Purchased Car (ordered to my specific options) reveal after purchase that major Items (Driver Assist Package) is not present? Lemon Law? Or do I have to go a legal route. Same or even higher price paid than the Order showed. Thanks.

Cool video!

I really like how fast they are ⚡️right out the line.

Awesome video.

Great video.

This was an awesome video. The Lightning will likely be my next vehicle. This is the first time I have heard the term "charger anxiety" and I'm 100% going to use that from now on. I bought my first EV at the start of this year, a Harley LiveWire and although it has limited range of about 120 miles it's not the range it's the chargers that cause me anxiety. Where I live/ride there are very few DC chargers and almost exclusively they are 50kW and only one charger per station. The 50kW thing doesn't effect me while I'm charging (the Harley only does 22kW) but having to wait for someone in a Hyundai or any other vehicle to charge at that rate is painful. I will likely go for a Lightning Pro with the pro power onboard so I can charge my Harley off the truck in about 2 hours from home :)

Hey Dave - Great video! Great content! Better than Kyle :)

If I would have had any idea that the price of a Ford Lightning would go down this low I really believe I would have waited and got it instead of my CX90 PHEV. At the beginning of the summer of 2022 I was reading reviews of the Lightning and thinking I wanted one. However, the prices were so ridiculous. I really like having a third row. However, the utility of a truck along with the additional utility of the Lightning at these current prices really makes it appealing.

I have a 2018 f150. I bought it 2 and a half years ago. It has the 5.0 in it. I love it. I do a lot of driving. Sometimes more than 300 miles at a time. And i dont have time to let it charge for hours . I would get a hybrid. And theres not to many places to charge it up where i live.

Got do stay with the F150, I love the keypad entry, you can lock your keys and phone in it when you swim or whatever....The Lightning is the only EV Truck with the keypad on the driver's door... Great video...

I've had my 22 Lightning Lariat X battery 14 months and 100% agree with the guys. 21k miles and best truck I've ever owned for my use case. I do some light towing to the beach ( 124 miles on way). Been a non-issue. Great truck.

I will look at a Ford EV truck when they get the NACS.

ive been looking at one of these really hard but here in Canada there really expensive. the dealers have them just sitting there same thing, and i priced an XLT with the larger battery and the max tow package and tow tech pack nothing else its 80k... and thats if you can find a ford dealer thats not trying to rip you off still with mark ups

One of the reasons why the Ford Lightning isn’t selling is people are waiting for the truck to be equipped with Tesla charging plug. For me, that’s what I’m waiting for.

Dealers expect a $50,000 truck to sell for $110,000 and wonder why the demand isn't very high.

Great video. Thanks. I wish every EV had the same electrical outlets as the F150. I have no need for a truck, but I would love to power a blender or instant pot from a normal outlet on a road trip or camping.

U can get these used with low miles for like $40-50k

One guy said he liked tge platinum black.Can you image how hot the interior will get. The mate black looks like a flat black primer. Not for me. I have a platinum but would've been completely satisfied with the ER lariat, which would have increased my range from 300 to 320 miles.

What Ford should have done when they were first developing the Lightning is take 10 of them and give them to farmers, ranchers, and contractors in different areas of the country for 1 year and take the feedback and design the vehicle in the real world way.

The reason these are just sitting on lots, is that the dealerships all ordered short range trucks, and nobody wants that. When I look around everything is short range, the extended range trucks are not available sitting on lots.

People have a hard time with the price and interest rates. The base price is 60k in my area and to get set how I would need it is almost 70k. I can get a 3/4 truck with diesel for about same price. Then you have the winter battery loss.

23:25 to be fair 200-400 miles of range is normal in the mobility industry for really anything dino juice, hydrogen or BEV the issue is refuel time which is something barring a major breakthough BEVs can ever overcome.

my latest firmware update from over a month ago gave me the battery percentile on the main dash screen.

Their big selling point was the power options that are also available on the powerboost f150

A little chatty (no surprise on this channel), but it was interesting listening to two other Lightning owners. It makes me want to go to a meet-up.

Really great video Dave. I wrote off the Lightning due to price and will probably get into a Model Y some time soon....but the appeal of the bed to do "truck things" is strong, just wish the prices were a little more reasonable. I had a Canyon up until November of last year and really miss tossing things into the bed. Also hate to bother others borrowing trucks....but with two car seats the pickup wasn't practical anymore for me...with the frunk on a Lightning the car seats taking up the back aren't as much of an issue.

Great video. Thank you. Any thoughts on susceptibility to flat tires with the larger wheel size on the platinum vs the Larat? With my Tesla, my larger wheels look nice but I get my fair share of flat tires in NY and CT.

Once you have an EV, you’ll most likely never go back. Thinking of selling 1st gen maverick hybrid for a Lightning

I wish a lighting fit my use case because I want one. Tough to tow a gooseneck with one though😂

Every gas station should have at least 2 to 4 electric chargers

Counterpoint to their trim choices: with Lariat, you get animal skin interior, whether you want it or not. In hot climate, I’ve never had a leather interior that lasted as long as cloth. Also, you get cooled seats, whether you want them or not (imagine sitting on a wet park bench, and having the cold-wet soak through to your skin… that wonderful feeling is the experience of cooled seats, imho). The cloth interior of the XLT feels much softer, and yet supportive- more comfortable overall than the seats in the Lariat. The 12” landscape-oriented Sync screen seems more useable than the larger, portrait-oriented screen of the Lariat. XLT 312A with Max Tow add is the sweet spot: Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Centering (not just ping-ponging Lane Keeping), Speed Sign Recognition. And all for $thousands less than a Lariat. Buy a 2024 XLT, and it will likely even have Bluecruise.

It's good someone likes them

Do you guys have tonneau covers on your trucks and if so, do they really help with range?

Love my lightning. Can we turn the beeping off for the frunk?

they just stopped making those little diesels lol, upvoted!

Pet mode and 1-button ProPower mode would be game changers. Also, the app sucks. WTF can't I set cabin temp via the app? Why can I only do two remote starts before the truck needs to be driven? Why can't I crack the windows via the app? Why does opening the frunk shut down the truck when it's in remote start mode?

As a fairly new lightning owner, and a first time ev owner, I love my lightning. I agree with most of what the guys said except the trim level discussion, I went with an XLT, because that’s what was on the lot here, and it really gets you a ton of bang for your buck. Please don’t pass up the XLT trims! I thought I would never have a car again without leather seats, but with our cold MN winters I don’t think I’ll mind the cloth seats! Pro power added and max towing package and the price came in under $60,000. This truck is NOT out of reach for many people!! I’m having so much fun with it so far!

Charger anxiety = 1970' road trips where gas stations were 70-100 miles away from one another. A lot of younger drivers have no understanding that there weren't 3-4 gas stations on every exit.

Ford needs to add a camp mode & pet mode to compete with Tesla on some of the basic features

Far too much fun!

Based on your video I checked out the Lightning. Nice truck but I could NOT find one STEALERSHIP that wasn’t gouging WAY OVER MSRP plus other fees. Don’t tell Elon I even looked but back to Tesla we go! When you see Jim Farley remind him this is ruining the Brand.

How can they claim savings when the price is 80,000 dollars , that's unaffordable for most people and the monthly payment ($1400 to 2200 a month) and interest erases any gas savings. They are ok if you buy a new car every 3 to 5 years, time will tell the real story, but they are not transportation for the general public .

I would buy Lariat again, just extended battery

22:20 I have found that most salespeople know very few specifics about the vehicles they are selling, weather it be an ICE car, hybrid, or EV. They generally (not always of course) are sorely undertrained, and held to a low standard of competence.

I would love one but I don’t see how many can ever afford trucks at this costs. Things need to come down a LOT for the average person to be able to buy.

Need a bit more on challenges please. What is the software like? Updates regularly? What maintenance does this EV require?

The price of the Lightning and 230 miles per charge made caused me to order 2024 Ranger

Still charging a premium in North Texas. So I guess if I buy one, get it up North and drive it down.

If I am considering a 2024 F150 platinum with the 3.5 hybrid, how to I evaluate the use case for the lightning? I am going to invest over 85k for the gas model.

I hope Ford will build a "Ranger" size EV soon. Loved the video, but I really don't need a full-size F150. They would be a big seller for Ford.

Great video for ford. Im sure they are lovin it

I wouldn't recommend the Sunrun home integration system, way to expensive and hasn't had any good reviews. I use an interlocked generator receptical located at my main service panel to power my home in an emergency. 7200 watts available instead of the 9600 watts available when using Sunrun integration. 7200 watts is mire than enough to power my critical loads.

How long does it take to charge each time you have to stop Thats what really bugs me I can get gas and be on my way in a matter of minutes

I’m in CA how important is the heat pump? Should I get a 23 or wait till 24? Thoughts?

As a former EV owner, I’d like a Lightning for local stuff, but I tow boats too far and travel empty too far to make one feasible. My 2019 with the 2.7TT and 36 gallon tank takes me from my house in SW Michigan to my brothers house in southern North Carolina on a single tank, so my only stops are a few five minute bathroom breaks. I save well over an hour vs needing to charge a few times, and zero range anxiety. Most of my used boat purchases have been over 200 miles round trip, and it’s never enjoyable finding a suitable charger when towing a long trailer.

I have been around EVs since the Leaf came out. I don't agree with these guys because I have also been a truck guy since I was a kid and I was a schooled mechanic for many years until I went back to school and became an electrical guy and controls guy and trouble shooter. The best way to deal with EVs is miles per KW and state of charge in percentages. If you want to keep your battery happy and give it a long life, learn how to use it. The more time you can keep it between 35 and 75 percent state of charge the healthier your battery is going to be. The fewer times you cook it to death on fast chargers the better off you will be. KW used is also good information to have while driving. If you have a 90 KW battery and you have used 70 Kw you know how much farther you can drive if you are averaging 2 miles per KW on the highway. You could always use percentage or state of charge and just know that you should be stopping and topping off somewhere between 10 and 35 % . Juice up quick to near 70 to 85% and get rolling again.😉

Great video Dave from real time users. Top show.

At 6'6", it'd be awesome if they offered a longer bed length; slap a topper on there and that's stealth camping FTW.

Great interview and I enjoy hearing from real owners. The hesitation for most is the fact that it’s being forced on us and the cost is out of reach for most. Plus, the lack of operational chargers is an issue and the time to charge. Driving around town is great but depends on where you live and cost of electricity. Then how the batteries are sourced is an issue and not really an advantage for the environment not to mention the lack of battery recycling. I’ll stick with ICE until the next breakthrough. Great video and do like the trucks!

In Canada a Ford F150 Lightning costs $140,000 with taxes!

Get the Pro- long range at $50k and they’ll sell better. I had an original reservation and by the time it was open the base pro was $60k. Not happening.