The women who view their own daughters as “competition” are the absolute worst.

The husband is absolutely horrible for this but I would just divorce him and tell my family what he did, however, I would literally have to fist fight my mom for this 😤

The expression goes, “The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.” Meaning found family can be more important than your connection to your biological family.

The premediation is sickening. This poor girl, lucky that she didn't end up starting a family with this nasty dude. Still just so disturbing.

I would just wait until the next family gathering to just stand up, make a toast, and announce “We’re getting a divorce!…because my mom F-Ed my husband the night before our wedding! Have fun with that one close relatives!” Just to walk back in the room a quick second to be like “Oh and it was planned”

I wonder how the ex-husband's family reacted on hearing the news. I know that if my son did that, I'd beat the shit out of him.

I need to talk to my therapist after hearing this story. It’s giving me trust issues.

I wonder why the daughter kept up a relationship with her mom when the mom had a history of trying to come onto this girl’s boyfriends. 1000% agree though that she needs to just flat out tell the family the real reason, no sugar coating. “The biggest issue was the actual cheating” as if sexting doesn’t count as cheating?? What?? Exchanging nudes and sexting IS cheating. Sleeping with someone who isn’t your partner IS cheating. Any romantic or sexual action that happens with someone else or multiple other people while having a partner IS cheating.

“Guys will never shit on a woman unless they want to f*k them” YESS! This is so freaking true.

“two generations of wet” SARAH PLEASE 😭😭😭

Even though both of them were of age, it sounds like this “mother” could possibly be a predator. The daughter said her mother had done this before? When? When she and her past boyfriends were minors? And there was a near-30 year age gap? I’m not trying to imply that she is indeed a predator, but the fact that there’s history of that behavior is disturbing.

They had sex, that was bad. But for me the even bigger break in trust is the lying about it. Also, the fact he doesn't see sexting as cheating... About the family, cut the mom off and tell the rest the truth. If anyone fights op on it, cut them off too, they will truly show you who they are.

If my partner and mother did this, I'd be punching. Hope she gets the support she needs from dealing with this crazy

I heard another story almost exactly like this before, a psychiatrist weighed in and said the mothers issue isn’t needing validation by sleeping with younger men, she would’ve sleep with a DIFFERENT younger man if that were the case and not gone after her daughters man. When a parent sexually singles out their child’s partner it’s because the parent has severe and irrational jealousy issues of their child and views the child not as their child but rather as their competition in life. This behavior will usually not change because the parent has spent the child’s whole life viewing them as competition and at this point that’s their dynamic. The psychiatrist also mentioned that this occurs far more often in mother/daughter relationships than it does son/father relationships and often stems from narcissistic mothers who blame the child for “wrecking their bodies, stealing their youth and stopping them from fulfilling dreams they’ve had for their lives”. It’s completely stupid. There’s no salvaging that relationship, you have to bail.

The "blood is thicker than water" has been twisted somewhere along the way. The full saying is " The blood of the covenant is thicker than the waters of the womb" which is the exact opposite of that first quote.

I HATE she says “she was not enough” NO STOP THAT RIGHT NOW! He was not enough for YOU! You did not “fail” here 🤬 So angry!

You know how they say “violence is not the answer”? This is the exception, violence is 100% the answer in this situation.

I can't believe some people have mothers like this. This sounds like something out of a nightmare. I'm so thankful to have an unconditionally loving and caring mother who would never in a million years scar me as this mother had done.

They’re both absolutely abhorrent. Kick them both to the curb. Hope they’re in one of those states where she can sue for causing a divorce.

There was an inverse version of this story also on reddit. A woman in her 40s to 50s married a younger man in his 30s. She suspected he was cheating and caught him in the act on the house security camera, WITH HER SON who was like 18-22 or something. She confronted them about it and they both said they wanted to be together and the husband left her for her son. I feel so bad for both these women. I have family problems, just like anyone else, but thankfully nothing like this. I genuinely cannot fathom the lack of empathy and consideration these people have toward their CHOSEN partners. Don’t want commitment? Don’t commit! I really just don’t understand people, never have and probably never will. To me this is such a simple thing to say no to.

the fact that he felt the need to reassure her that he wasnt attracted by her mother in the first place is a red flag

I'm a heavy drinker and I'm scandalous, but this is beyond anything I could ever even think of doing. This is fucking disgusting.

I would divorce my husband, cut off my family, and get a therapist to help undo all the crap my family has done to me and really accept that I don't need them in my life.

I literally gasped on the first story while ironing, then had to sit down when the update came. Heart breaking.

Throw her mother and husband away. Expeditiously. And she doesn’t have to forgive them ever. Hope she finds the peace, love, and family she deserves.

Can we start to normalize not having to explain ourselves and why we are getting divorced? I had a terrible time when my family and friends demanded why instead of offering support. Obviously when a divorce happens there are reasons and you'll be curious, but if you're not in the relationship then you're not owed an explanation. Divorce is hard. If you love your friend or family member, just be there for them. She shouldn't have to explain to them.

My wife's mom is the same way. She was disappointed her kid was gay for the reason she could not steal her spouse. She is a legit narcissist, so is this mother.

Damn, i feel for this person. Getting cheated on is an absolute horrible thing to have happen to. People who cheat should have bigger consequences.

So... my great aunt on my dad's side married her daughters widower whom she had 3 children with. I'm pretty sure the kids still call her gma too... I know it's not as severe but I'm pretty sure they hooked up for the first time at the daughter's funeral. My grandpa also refuses to be around her (she's my grandma's sister) because he's afraid she's going to force herself on him...

A reminder that "Blood is thicker than water" is a shortening of the original quote, which completely turns the original meaning on its head. The original is "The blood _of the Covenant_ is thicker than the water _of the Womb."_ It's saying _literally_ about choosing the people you consider family.

Dude wanting to get with his fiance right after her mom is more suspicious. Probably been wanting to check that mom and daughter box his whole adulthood 🤢

The mother should be written off asap. I’m sorry but that isn’t a parent- she is like a teen girl competing with a girl she dislikes. The husband is disgusting. It’s one thing to have been blackout drunk and not knowing it happened. But the fact that he initiated the morning after, the texting and all that was awful. People like that are quite pathetic- even teens behave better. He was out of line and shit but her mother is the one that hurts more. A parent should never do that to a child.

I would love to be in the courtroom when her lawyer explains why she is filing for divorce! I also hope he gets nothing and has to pay her.

“Chosen family” isn’t a gay community thing. That is something that has been going on in different communities forever! As a result of toxic families and broken families people have been forming their chosen families for years.

My sis was friends with a girl who had a mom just like this. Talk of the town. This kind of behavior destroys people and families

Gosh what a story! Yikes. What a disgusting mother! The only thing I want to add is, I can't believe the husband. It sounds like he implied that sexting wasn't cheating. Leaving it out because it wasn't the physical act, etc. That's insane!!! If it wasn't cheating in his eyes, why didn't he tell her sooner? Obviously he knows it shows extra premeditation. I feel for op so much! I really hope she has a wonderful life after this. She deserves it.

I agree with Sarah, fight the mom. She needs to learn.

i LIVE for the episodes with sarah!!! their commentary is so fucking good

So glad this wasn't a "how do I forgive him" post, that is totally unforgivable

Omg, my daughter said mom you need to listen to this. This is your life. My mom did the same thing. Except they got busted so she moved in with him and they tried to take my daughter away. Now the whole family has forgiven her. I learned after that she had approached many of the men I had dated.

Yup this sh*t happens. I told my now husband that if he EVER interacted with my mother in any way like this it would be 100% over. She had come onto previous boyfriends and I'm pretty sure she slept with one of my hs friends (17 yrs). You have no idea how damaging it is to have to think about sh*t like that.

Anyone that uses being drunk as an excuse is always still in the wrong. Being drunk is an inhibitor, so it will make do things you wouldn't normally do. However, it won't make you do things that are completely against your morals. So this guy probably has had thoughts about her mom but never acted until then. Edit: paused the video for the earlier comment, but yep I knew there had to be more lol.

"The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" We've always use this phrase wrong. It means that the bonds we choose to make are far more important than the bonds made by the water in the womb. Fits perfectly in this scenario!

it makes me happy to hear two people openly talk about cutting family off. i always hear "well, she's still your mom." or "family is family, just try to talk to her about it." but some things are just unforgivable. and the fact that her mom didn't even try to apologize makes it worse because she likely won't apologize. she'll just manipulate her daughter and gaslight her into thinking it never happened or that it didn't happen the way it did. sometimes you just need to cut family off and not look back.

19:20 my psychology take is similar to yours. That the mom sees the daughter as an extension of herself and therefore she owns whatever the daughter has. Meaning relationships, etc. It's a very toxic dynamic, full of emneshment and poor boundaries. My own biological mother was the same. I cut her out when I was 18. The fact that the daughter falls in love/dates all these guys who end up sleeping with her mom, could be a by product of childhood trauma and witnessing/experiencing an unhealthy dynamic with her mother and family. The mother likely taught the daughter poor self worth and value amongst herself as in the post she does mention that she feels like shes blind to red flags and she blames herself for the situation. It is possible to heal from this though and it's good that she's getting a divorce

This story made me feel physically ill

The husband & mother are VILE VILE humans & deserve nothing good in life. To try and redeem himself by saying “you deserve the real truth” & he won’t take the “easy out”. God some people are horrible & I can’t fathom acting or doing this to someone else. AND THE MOM???? What mom? I’d have no mom after this.

I’m listening to this without headphones, I’m going to buy them and this grandma next to me just starts nodding when you guys start throwing around theories.

After she told him that she used to flirt with her dates he just wanted a part of it while while pretending to be disgusted by her behavior.

I love that addition, "Viscosity is not what family is about." It's now my new go-to rebuttal for people who use the "blood is thicker than water" cop-out in poor contexts.

I would straight ghost my mom if she ever did this. I'd change my name and address and never speak to her again.

“viscosity is not what family’s about” i love Sarah

My younger sibling has dated TWO of my exes!! Literally broke my heart

17:31 I once read that the phrase "Blood is thicker than water" is actually not the full quote; it's actually "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb," which means that the bonds that you form by choice are more important than just being related to someone. So basically, people misquote it thinking that genetics should win out over friends, but it's actually the opposite.

Oh my god, that made me gag so much. What pieces of crap... OP needs to throw those two in the garbage- trash like OP's (hopefully) ex and mom deserve each other. I mean it. Let them rot surrounded by dirty diapers and rotting pizza, because that's all the respect they deserve.

Fists would be FLYING. Absolute animals.

I remember when I went to US Navy basic and our first phone call home, we were told a story of a girl who's boyfriend got her mother pregnant within the first few weeks of her being at basic.

What's funny about the expression "blood is thicker than water", is that it has been paraphrased to mean the exact opposite of the original quote. People use it to excuse shitty behavior and/or force people to side with family who is in the wrong against friends and others who are in the right. The true quote is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb"; which essentially means the family we make is more meaningful than the family we are simply born into.

Yasssss can't wait. This is the earliest I've ever been LOL love you two.

The best revenge is shrimp tails in the curtain rods

HE DIDN’T GO SHOWER BEFORE HE GOT IN BED WITH YOU?!

Okay, don't give the end of this podcast an excuse for the mom. No matter her insecurities, sleeping with her daughters new husband is NOT a valid excuse. Period.

“stepmom is his favorite genre” HAHA sorry for her experience but oh my god

I thought is was going to be the other my mom is sleeping with my husband story where they were messing around for over 15 YEARS AND HER TWIN YOUNGER BROTHERS WAS HER HUSBAND’S. Clearly I’m still not over it.

I know someone who’s mom slept with multiple of her boyfriends (even when she was a teenager) and just regular friends. She now has nothing to do with the woman and anyone who praises her mother.

She’s literally trying to compete with her daughter, that’s sick!

Honestly, I would lose my mind. My mother would be banned from my life, she wouldn’t get to be part of anything. And the husband? Out on the curb with all of his stuff. Time to take out the trash!

This fucking story hit deep. While I was on deployment my mother attempted to sleep with my husband. I called my mom I asked one question “is it true what ____ told me” she started screaming and yelling that I’m a whore and I’ll never be good enough for anyone. He’s better off without me. She completely cut me off and turned my family against me. Moving on she was messaging him saying how could he do this to her. Blah blah blah. She said she wanted to save their “friendship” while still blocking me. When he denied her she threatened to not care FOR OUR DAUGHTER and to put her on the street. Mind you, myself and my husband are OVER SEAS. Can’t get to our daughter in a quick manner. My husband never took to her (as far as I know) but EXTREMELY long story short I cut that bitch off.

No because the husband admitted he was fully aware of what he was doing . It’s not the bs excuse of “taking advantage “ esp if they had been se*ting before AND he fully married you after AND COCKILY admitted that if he’d got the opportunity to he would sleep with the mum . Like no the mum is getting beaten tf up .

I totally believe in “ you make your own family “ …. My family is extremely toxic with the way they treated me especially when my stepdad passed away last year so it’s been an extreme learning curve to realize that the family you are born with is not REALLY your true family . If this was my spouse and my mother … divorce for the spouse and for dear old mom ? Pull up to her house with a huge sign and balloons and set it on her front lawn for ALL the neighbourhood to see “ BEWARE : HOME-WRECKER LIVES HERE !!!!! Signed her daughter 😘 “

Usually men in those scenarios have deeply rooted, and a disturbing past with mommy issues and or childhood trauma. Being preyed upon by an older women growing up (groomed), only to end up looking for that same experience later on in life. I've met several guys that exclusively date women 20 to 30 years older than them for this exact reason. (Not justifying anything) This is just an observation I've made.

I feel very sorry for her, I understand. In 2017 my only and older sister was sleeping with my boyfriend (the three of us lived together) my family knew before I did and nobody told me. I have never been the same since

When I was in high school my mom would tell me about dreams she had when she slept about my friends, how she was dating so and so or even kissing my own bf. On top of that she would individually add anyone I mentioned or who she knew from extracurriculars on facebook or instagram and dm them all the time. She always talked about how she "adopted" in everyone I knew and "took care of them" but she'd actually talk to them about their relationships and even start shit, gaslighting them about me and sometimes giving them fuel to try and spread to start drama. It was such a weird control thing but I had no idea until it came to a head my senior year when my bf's parents threatened to call the police because she was dming him excplict details on how to do sexual things in a "healthy" way (backstory I got a UTI around the same time and she knew). That's just a quarter of her insanity and even today 5 years later and after I cut her off she's still reaching out to people I used to know trying to start drama about me. I have so many other stories about her but this just reminded me of each time she'd be dropping me off at school going "So I had a dream I was dating your bf and he kept trying to make-out with me!"

Fun fact: The full quote is actually “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” which originally referred to the bond you’ve made with someone you’ve shed blood with is stronger than one had with someone you’ve shared the womb with.

I OMFG I felt anger run up my spine it made my body shiver. I like I can’t this is just disturbing. Fucking idk what’s worse the fact that he had the audacity to fucking pretend he came home and tried to f u c k or the fact they were SENDING NUDES FOR 7 MONTHS!?!?

NOT THEM SEXTING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE?????????????? HUHHHH?????????????

I love when Sarah is on!! 💗💗💗 she’s so spicy 🌶 with the BIG FACTS….😘😘😘

For me, the fact that he slept with her the next morning is the most fucked up shit. Cause it was for sure intentional and part of the "experience"

OP's mom is a baddie in her younger years and never moved on from it and stayed delusional even hurting her own baby

I need an “I love divorce” sticker for my mom that would be hilarious. 😂 (She’s still friendly with my dad and he would die laughing.)

Love these twos commentaries together, y’all are so entertaining 👏👏👏

I wish these two had their own podcast together ♥️♥️♥️ they’re amazing together with these chaos stories

I can't remember if I already read this on Reddit or saw y'all react to it in a longer video. Sarah, love the videos with you in them!

I just looked at the thumbnail and knew straight away this channel is going to be good. There are so many TTS reddit channels, so many that just read the post and put nothing from themselves. Two pals chilling to a reddit story is something I had no idea I needed.

HOW is this my first video with Sarah? She's bloody hilarious I am in love with her 😭❤️ I need to see them all now.

My ex told me that he wanted to have a harem. Yes...a harem...I knew then it wasn't going to work but I stayed because I loved him. He was my first real love. I ended things a little bit after that. We ended amicably and now he has a baby with his girl friend. And I'm just happy it wasn't me🥰

I know this is off topic but I always love your set up! It always looks so cozy! It’s a cool sleepover with friends type vibe lol Also, I love this collaboration! I watched both you guys separately since the beginning and I never would’ve expected you guys to do videos together but I love it so much!!

in the first 10 seconds, that "Oh cheez" got me

the thing about men lying they would never be with a certain woman is so true. my ex WENT OUT OF HIS WAY to pull up a certain girl’s pics on IG and insult her, and he ended up leaving me for her a few months later.

Bring back Sarah if possible!! I love watching you two bounce off of each other and reacting to each other's energy. Also, what a crazy story! This is my second time watching it

This podcast is so cool. It makes me feel so cozy watching you guys chilling with the blankets drinking wine. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy

10:41 this is true, when your guy reiterates how a woman is not attractive, not his type, guess what? She probably is his type. Happened to me, my ex bf and now ex bff...

I was walking around the mall listening to this. I literally started talking to an employee about this story cause holy shit

It's different if you came home drunk and a mistake happened.. (I'd still divorce) but this was planned, this was plotted, this was wanted. I'd want to die. I would hate every single thing about him and her. I could never forgive either. I know my revenge body would be on point tho. Cause it didn't happen to me yet I'm still sick to my stomach.

I love how comfy y’all look 🤣

“May I introduce you to my fists, Sense & Sensibility?”

What really stuns me is realizing this is something I genuinely believe my mom could do…. And realizing that’s not normal

I love Sarah's commentary... 10/10 have her back again

I love Sarah, please invite them on more💕

My first time coming across this podcast & i love that they are sitting on couches under blankets because i am doing the same 😂🧡