I thought Eddy's first tip would be to make sure you're not late. 😂

Not even a musician but here I am, listening to a half an hour podcast about surviving in orchestra.

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Me, a vocalist: yes this is very important for me to know

1. Do not play concertos 2. Show up 15-30 minutes early 3. Do not look at the winds players when they have a solo 4. Bring a pencil and eraser to rehearsal 5. Do not talk behind people's Bachs 6. The inside player always turns the page 7. Practice before the first rehearsal 8. Watch for bow marking and changes 9. Listen, blend in and watch the conductor 10. Don't talk to your deskie too much

Oh, another really good one: when someone in your section has a solo, DO NOT FINGER ALONG WITH THEM....that is SO annoying! It's like you're a vulture, waiting for them to miss so you can jump right in. Also, don't hold up rehearsal by asking questions of the conductor that your section leader can probably answer....at least ask them first, or let them ask the conductor. And if it's specific to your instrument, ask the conductor during the break, so you don't waste everyone's time.

So, to sum up: don't be late and have 20 eyes to be able to look at everyone and everything at once

Great episode. It was (understandably) a bit string-centric. Would love to see a few more episodes with special guests to discuss issues for woodwinds, brass, percussion, etc.

Basically, do what will help the orchestra to succeed, including being pleasant to work with. And as much as you don't want to gossip with the other players, do NOT gossip with the pianist. We know EVERYONE. 🙂

Would love an episode about how you balance your personal/professional lives. With all your touring and practicing, how do you make sure that you’re taking care of yourself and leaving time for your other goals and interests?

Yes, orchestral survival guide part 2 please!

Would love to hear you each talk about some of your favorite pieces in depth and why they are your favorite.

YOO I WAS LITERALLY THINKING “why did they abandon this podcast :(“ YESTERDAY

I'm dying inside listening to Eddy talk about his Rachmaninoff 2 story. Oh god

I cant believe that Vio-kelele apology video. Absolute savages

one of my fav twoset videos was the one where they talked abt their embarrassing stories. i was so into it that i actually thought that lol these guys should make a podcast, i would definitely listen to it. AND DAMN 4 YEARS LATER AND NOW HERE WE ARE

My High School band director would say to us "if you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late." to impress upon us to always show up to class and performances early enough to get ready and sit down.

YES...those people who constantly play in every break...and it's always flashy, fast stuff....you never hear them playing something slow and beautiful....no, because they can't show off with that!

If you get a magnet ring for your pencil you can leave the pencil stuck on your music stand and never forget it. Plus there are magnets that also have a rubber coating. You can stick the pencil to the music stand from below which will make turning the pages easier.

I’m still a terrible page turner (it’s the dry skin), but I actually had to be taught to turn them properly, when I was a graduate viola student. Instead of putting the instrument down and turning with the right hand, continue to support the instrument with only the head and shoulder, and turn with the left hand. My classmate taught me, and 40+ years later, I taught one of his students, who we had just hired. This may not work for the violins, but it’s a regular practice for the violas.

I knew Twoset Talks would be back. Quality over quantity, and I totally approve.

Also an episode on the art of practising in general. How to practise smart, efficient and effective and how you could schedule a practise session, in order for it to be all that. And not countless hours of mindless repetition with no progress. Especially because everyone tells you "to go practise" but no one teaches you, HOW to actually practise, in order to achieve the best possible results, in as little time as possible. Since it is so difficult to master practising and additionally having few guidelines on how to be smart about it, it would be very interesting to hear your thoughts, experiences, knowledge and wisdom on it. Love you guys❤

If you have several bars of rests before a page turn (maybe even with meter changes), copy them to the top of the next page. That way, you can turn the page early and still safely count up to your next entry without forgetting how many and what kinds of rests you have.

Omg my clarinet section needs to hear the “don’t talk behind other people’s backs”. My band didn’t have a bass clarinet so I was assigned to it this year and sucked because it’s a bunch of different technique and they basically ostracized me and refused to even look at me, and I’m the director’s favorite. Lol.

I think exploring about what you should do on your first day, first week and first month in orchestra could be interesting. This could include deductions on the paycheck, preparing for your first concert, concert dress, guest conductors, and performing with choirs and soloists.

21:57 as a choir singing, I can relate to the blending, we practice that A LOT. And when I was in the audience for the Wiener Filharmoniker and Symfoniker in Musikverein, one of the quality markers for me was that the violins all sounded as one, one gigantically projecting violin, with the cleanest sound I have ever heard

My biggest tip: Try to start in an amateur orchestra as early as possible. Don't wait until you have to sit in a professional one. A youth orchestra is much more relaxed about these things and you can get the experience without the drama.

Would love for you guys to talk about your process in coming up with video ideas. Who's idea was violin charades? What's your favorite type of video to produce and why? What goes into putting these awesome videos together for us viewers and what have you learned along the way?

First activity of the day: putting on Chen&Yang headband. Second: listening to TwoSetTalks. All other things can wait.

Twoset are the bear grills of orchestra and classical musician life!

TwoSet talks is like the podcast we have been waiting for years!!!

to add to the tip about bringing a pencil/eraser- bring extras. literally the quickest way to make friends if someone forgets theirs and you save their ass lol

4:52 random noise and Brett's quick witted response by giving Eddy's flexing time

Thank you for not abandoning your podcast channel after the first episode ❤

Could hardly wait until I could take my daughter to school today. Now I finally have some time to enjoy this podcast. I just love how Brett and Eddy are role models for everyone, not only about classical music and practice, but also being authentic and creating an encouraging, constructive, non-toxic environment. Keep up the good work guys, and also take care of yourself 💜

Aaaaaah, finally!! Honestly, I would love for you to talk about your book collection that we can see on your shelf and why its there. Thanks guys!

I'm so glad you did not abandon this project!

14:25 What a great story about Eddie and the kind concert master defending him to the conductor! That would be my worst nightmare though...you think you're safe in the back and then getting dropped up front with the concert master!!!

"Twoset Talks Episode Number 2" I didn't think I'd see the day, oh my god, finally 😭

I don’t Even play in orchestra but I watch it because TwoSet.

Honestly, I’d listen to any topic you guys decide to feature! It would be really cool to hear your opinions on music school and youth orchestra, though. I’m in youth orchestra and I’m curious about your experiences. Much love!

Sat near a harpist for many years in a pro orchestra. You may put your extra set of strings in a jacket pocket, but the harpist puts extra strings in that bag on stage, along with Tibet Almond Stick to take care of all the dings and nicks the instrument get when being moved, and a dust cloth because they don't get to clean this instrument at home.

Eddy, that concertmaster was not only kind, but he was a GREAT TEACHER.....he knew you needed to experience to teach you a lesson, and he provided it.

I know I’m late but here’s some advice from me (kinda same as the video but more detailed and with stories) 1. Never EVER put your phone in your pocket cause one time I had my phone in my pocket in like a big rehearsal and it started ringing when we were playing some really loud part but when it fricking got really silent EVERYBODY heard my phone ringing and it was really embarassing 2. Be careful to NOT touch the strings before playing cause I made a really loud noise just when we were going to play (same people and piece as on the first advice) and all of the people playing and listening heard it.:/ 3. This is same as in the video but really do come earlier to practice!! I always come about 20-30 minutes before so I can prepare and chat with friends. 4. As i said in the third advice (chat with friends) PLEASE DO MAKE FRIENDS. I know it’s hard to talk to people sometimes and idk even how I got friends in orchestra, people kinda just started to talk to me and yeah. It really makes a difference when coming to practice if you know you have friends to talk with 5. This is also same as in the video but really DO NOT TALK WITH YOUR DESKIE ALL THE TIME. Because the conductor will get angry, you WILL miss the markings when they are being said and you WILL miss entries and where youre starting in rehearsal if you talk too much. (And also don’t bring your phone to your desk and look at it when your section is playing)

B&E: practice your part before the 1st rehearsal Me: Hahahaha! 😮 LOL! 1st rehearsal is for practicing sight reading.

"that was super intense" "he send a message" a professional musician played the next phrase of a concerto.. "super intense". But in the movie adaptation : Duel!! Two string players fighting with bows!!

Would love an episode or segment with advice for people learning later in life (20s/30s), people who didn't get to go to music school or get a lot of musical education growing up. Things for them to practice, skill wise. Things for them to study, music theory wise. Things like that. Loved this episode, keep 'em coming 👍

As someone who has a habit of turning my head towards the speaker in a conversation automatically (Trauma habit), it lays over in my behavior-in-orchestra habits and makes me the stinker who looks at the woodwinds during rehearsal when they have solos-though it doesn’t show through in concerts.

89 days without Twoset talks new ep, UNTIL TODAY, FINALLY GUYS

Great that I’m wearing Chen&Yang headband in my Japan trip right now and thank you for uploaded more Twoset talk(the headband freaking cute)

more twoset talks! thanks brett and eddy!

thank you guys so much for this!! i’m studying violin performance for college this fall and although i’ve played in youth orchestras since middle school, i’m so nervous about college orchestra 😭😭 wish me luck

Even if youre not in Orchestra and just a musician in orchestra but still want to be professional these tipps are so important and as you can also hear by their story that sometimes you get these lessons a bit late and then have awkward or embarassing moments that could have been averted

I JS FOUND THE CHANNEL IVE NEVER SUBBED TO A CHANNEL FASTER IN MY LIFE-

I really enjoy listening to both of you just talking in such a relax mood

Omg, I'm so happy they didn't give up of this channel!! ❤

tbh this is so calming

FREE THERAPY ILY guys so much!!, You have inspired me so much and I’m so happy you made a new channel where you guys talk and teach!!🤩🤩🤩

I would love to hear more "nerding out about music"-type discussions. It's always fun to hear people talk about what they're most passionate about and what they're currently discovering!

Super duper love love love this new podcast channel! So awesome getting to just listen to the gained wisdom that both of you have had over the years. Very valuable information and lessons. Thank you both, Brett & Eddy. Really appreciate your valuable time and shared knowledge and years of experience. Sending warm hugs filled with love and encouragement. 🫂💕💯🎻🎻🥰🥰

it`s so interesting to hear your experiences, especially when i`m not involved in all these things so i`m not familiar with how the orchestra works, please talk more🙏🙏

If you can survive in orchestra for a short time, you can survive for a long time.

I'M SO HAPPY!! And the timing is so perfect because I just finished Episode 1 this morning. Then I was like, "ohh it's been two months. I wonder when Twoset will upload a new episode 😢" . Then here we are!! You guys read my mind 😭

Yes please to more orchestra episodes!

Thank you for sharing all those inside stories.

I'd like another episode! I just like hearing y'all talk.

I'm an amateur violinist and choral singer - nowhere near professional, I just play for fun. But I was nodding along when you talked about blending with other sections. I taught myself, almost by accident, to listen to the other sections while playing in a community string orchestra as a teenager. I found that skill applicable to choir as well, and I'm always baffled when other people can't do it, or don't think to do it. You're playing in a group, you should be listening to that group!

You know, a lot of what you say not only applies to Orchestral rehearsals, but also anything that has a group of musicians coming together, like choir... tho I must say, we have the privilege of having our own scores, so a big thing is - remember to bring your scores!

Loved it. It's a rare insight into professional orchestras... and funnily enough... in our community orchestra it's so similar! I always get SO annoyed with the two girls that NEVER bring a pencil.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately, but it’s difficult to put it into words. I’d love to hear more stories about your experiences. And not just yours, but the personal stories of other musicians as well. To hear these behind the scenes stories, somehow makes me understand the music better. I’m not a musician, but as a dancer I have worked with a lot of (middle eastern) musicians. Knowing these people and the difficulties they are facing, made me better understand what is going on onstage during a middle eastern concert. Until I discovered your channel I always saw a symphony orchestra as a body of anonymous persons just doing their job. That changed. I went to listen to some symphonies lately and it is much more relatable to me now. Your little stories in many videos made me understand better the people who play the music. And that makes the music more enjoyable to me. I don’t know if this makes sense to you.

Loved this one too! It's always fun to hear some new anecdotes from your orchestra days (or more details about anecdotes we already knew about). I've not played in orchestra much, but as an amateur choir singer, a lot of this is really relatable!

Hurray!! I really hope there gonna be more orchestra-talks! Btw, about the last one, don't you ever talk ON STAGE because literally everyone can see that, even if you are in winds section(and maybe hear too if there are some mics around) ☠☠☠

While the concertmaster serves the a, only tune your a. Wait until the concertmaster sits down to tune your other strings.

Love these podcasts ! It would be interesting to have the same format but with tips for music university ! how to prepare for the audition, how to organise your schedule between classes and practicing but still having a life on the side (lol), etc.

Such a great episode! Even in high school, I got flashbacks of most of the tips you guys said. I don't know if you guys will read this but I would really love another episode like this. Personally, I'm a recently graduated high school going into university for music this year, and I think it would be really helpful for not just me but other musicians as well for more tips. Love your videos!

This is great, and I hope there will be many more in this series! You two never disappoint!!

I would really love more orchestra stories from you guys

I would like another orchestra one this was great 🙏

I love these types of videos, please make more!!!

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I feel so fortunate I only discovered this channel in episode 2 so I didn't need to do the agonising 3 month wait the others had to do. But welp, 3 more months for me to wait now...

Lovely detail and specifics! I was waiting for the tip about not having B.O.! Haha!

Great! I would love to hear an episode about the ideal conductor orchestras will always love to work with 🎵

I worked for a professional orchestra before. You can sit "7th chair" second violins and still be literally 3 feet from the conductor because the seatings were circular position, and right behind us were the oboe, flute, etc. You can't hide.

IVE BEEN WAITING FIR EP 2 TO COME OUT 😭😭

Guilty of most of these things! no idea that playing a concerto at break is bad form. Thank you for this. Great channel!

I’d like to hear about how you prepare for a lesson. I don’t mean practice that week; that’s obvious. What I mean is, in like the hour or so before your lesson what are you doing? Do you do a basic warm up? Go over the pieces? Make a list of problem areas? How do you prepare to get the most out of the lesson time?

A lovely channel to listen to while practicing

This channel needs wayyyy more recognition!!!❤

PLS DO PART 2, love u guys ❤

Thanks for another great episode 😎I'm hoping to have Pekka Kuusisto as a guest in your podcast. He's known to spice his violin playing up and make it his own so I think you guys would have a lot to talk about together. It would be interesting to hear all of your thoughts on not taking the classical music profession too seriously!

I’m not a musician and I still find your tips fascinating! 😂

"doggy tears" has now entered the musician's vocabulary.

omg the headbands!!! So excited for the episode ✨

Pearls of wisdom! Yes, more on orchestra tips please

Love these! I’m all for a part 2 of this episode!

On the page turning: I see it increasingly more often that the outside person turns the page because its so much easier for them to reach it since they sit on the side where the page is, that needs to be turned. Its an exception ofc with the concertmaster or section leaders since they still need to lead the orchestra/section.

I have some: stop playing when the conductor cuts everyone off....don't be those people who just keep going on and on. One for woodwind players is, be aware of the tuning tendencies of the other instruments you're playing with, particularly the other woodwinds, so you can adjust intonation on specific notes that you know are problematic. And when you have a duet passage with another player, like bass clarinet and bassoon in the grandfather music in Nutcracker, make sure you balance, because the dynamic marking is ff, but the bass clarinet can play much louder, so the bass will have to come down a little so we hear both instruments' colors in that passage.

please do a part two! That would be fun!

Yayayyayayay finally ep 2