I agree, it sounds like their teachers are actually working artists and that's why they keep having to shuffle their schedule around. I know some schools advertise this fact as a good thing, that their faculty are industry people with real world experience, but this is the down side of it.

So my dad actually teaches at Eastman, so I don't know everything about it but I do know that ECMS is an abbreviation for Eastman Community Music School, which is basically a community outreach program where children and teens can take classes from qualified musicians who also teach at Eastman, and toddler classes and things are offered there. So it sounds like to me that the kid who took lessons from this teacher was a kid and not a college student like what the teacher is probably used to working with. However that doesn't excuse that teacher for being a bad teacher.

I go to Eastman and personally my professors are great. I guess it depends.. But overall my experience at Eastman has been nothing but awesome so far.

Sometimes the best teachers/instructors are the worst skilled players. I wish more people understood this.

I went to art school for a few years and out of all my teachers, I'm pretty sure only one had an actual licence to teach. The others were just artists. The difference was noticable, let's just say that...

I was trying to do that but I just kept pausing at the start and the end. Couldn't read the middle portion properly but I got the sense of her complaint. Eddy and Brett could have skimmed it, if their team thought it was interesting enough to include.

@@oxoelfoxo you can either hit spacebar really fast twice in a row (from paused to resumed to paused again) or you can use the . and , keys to go forward or backward frame by frame.

@@bobdagranny7431 thanks, techie granny! never heard of the comma and period keys, I just use left and right arrows and they move 5 secs, I think, which is too big a jump

@@bobdagranny7431 learned something new today. Thanks dude/girl XD

Teachers at the con i go to are like this too 🥲

Yea I’ve heard that the classic Berklee story is to get in, form a band, and leave before graduating. You’re probably right about there money though because I think berklee doesn’t have the same kind of money as other music schools

Yeah, it's a cliche that Berklee students drop out when they get a job in music or a record deal.

Once you JIMIN you can’t JIMOUT • • • • • Yes…BTS meme reference here~ but honestly it fits (not only for Berklee college…but some other private colleges too) oT^To

It definitely seems like the really successful people you hear about that went to Berklee didn't graduate, but I don't know if it's because they let people in who can't manage the education. Maybe it's changed in the last 20 years, but I had looked into Berklee when I was in high school and the entry requirements were pretty intense. I was told that I would have to attend a regular college for a year or 2 just to take the music theory and other requisite subjects that my high school didn't offer before even bothering to apply to Berklee

yeah, they have like a joke, that those who drop end up making it

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YES THIS

lmao me too, only at 1:37 am

and I'm here at 4:37 a.m.🌚

Haha, that's stupid.

Same time in Sydney but I didn’t watch it

@@dimes3967 nah today is Sunday because it’s at 12 am

Absolutely. But good teachers are hard to find. Great teachers ('maestros/maestras') are practically non existent these days (at least in the vocal category).

Seconded!!!!!

No kidding. Truly the institutions will give you grate resources and connections. But when you don’t know anyone, you can be put with a really shitty professor and basically be destroyed no matter how hard you try.

thank you for this message, i sometimes worried that i wont be playing in an orchestra, because theres no music college in my country and i just feel sad that i even learned the violin and piano :(, like i cannot even get a real job, and if i can, it will be hard to find it everywhere, but yes, what you said is true, your teachers will gave you like chances of joining a competition, and if you win, you might get like a big appreciation like those prodigies out there

I at some point agree with you! I think too, that having a good teacher you can work with really well is always more important than being at a famous school. HOWEVER: As being a bachelor student on the baroque cello, I did have to make a smart choice regarding where to go to study. When it comes to early music, it does matter quite a lot where you did your degree. For example an early music degree from the Netherlands, Basel or Paris will most likely get more appreciation than a degree from a austrian university, even if Austria has some damn good universitys (I'm austrian). But of course that is a very specialized topic and doesn't apply to the broad mass of music students.

Get out **swish finger**

@@myfyp2 😂😂

I like that comment! Of course, I was a Singer! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

ooooh haechan

@@moshimoxiei see you're a person of culture as well

lol

Do you mean Julliard became Jailliard?

@@ILikeBirds or jail yard

Awwee that's so adorable, calling young students meow meows, much appreciated!!

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Lol that’s so cool!

I thought there were cats performing I’m an idiot.

that's creepy

Did those people quit college? Is that worth the risk? Wouldn't the degree help in the long term?

@@polarisgemini52 I mean, if you've got a job as a touring or backing musician for a decently popular artist, that's a steady amount of income. Plus it kind of proves that you're a capable musician since professional gigs are extremely competitive the larger the artist.

@@polarisgemini52 if its a really good gig its definitely worth it, most companies look for experience over degrees (although having a degree is usually the way to get your first experience)

@@polarisgemini52 wtf is a degree in jazz going to get you other than a job teaching jazz? musicians need experience and gigs under their belt. being able to put real hard provable successes on your resume and making connections in your circle of working peers is far far far far more valuable. in classical music, that pedigree might open doors. but it doesnt work the same for all kinds of music.

Wow I didn’t know that! Thank you for sharing your experience.

As is almost every school and university today, really (especially in North America). As someone who's seen the dark side, I tell you, it's all corporate business nowadays. If someone wonders why standards of education are dropping, well, they should maybe consider the entrepreneurial mindset being shoved at every instructor and professor's face. It's truly sad.

Apparently except for Curtis which is musician paradise or something.

@@gianellab.4953 I'm sorry, but when you say North America, did you really just mean the USA?

@@syntacticalcrab No haha I'm actually Canadian. I'm speaking from my experiences here!

@@syntacticalcrab Same in Mexico from my experience so there's all North America.

several of the faculty at my music school got their degrees from Eastman and they are amazing teachers. It's a good school! Also, every school has pros and cons. I love where I went to school and I was trained well, but that doesn't mean that there wasn't plenty of bs to go around. Reviews are appreciated, but not every school fits for everyone. You really need to connect and communicate with people directly to know if a school is good for you

My music teacher went to Eastman and I went to Highschool in Rochester for a while. I’ve heard only good things about Eastman apart from the fact that it’s too expensive to go there :)

1 star: They reject me because I have a small moustache

@@heichan8657 thinking of going into politics next

MDW or MUK?

That’s dope! Keep it up

Yea I had a similar experience as a kid. Had an amazing first teacher who balanced constructive criticism and cheering on well. She then found a new path in life and the new teacher was not so good. She'd been a professional player and just took up teaching later. It was painful to realize that not all professionals are going to be good instructors. Ended up quitting later bc I just couldn't stand her anymore, no matter how much I loved my clarinet. Always wanted to take it up later in life, can hopefully do that one day.

@@shirokuro2559I hope you can pick it up again later with a good instructor to guide you! Best of luck!

@@kristopherwilson506 Thanks!

I feel some of that pain. Now, I didn't start taking piano lessons until I got to college. (My primary is guitar.) Got into a music program at a reasonably good school - not a conservatory, but a solid program with generally good teachers. I didn't have bad teachers...but what completely destroyed me was completely choking during the last non-major recital...it was treated like the final exam for non-piano-major students, so I think I ended up with a D that semester, despite doing well the previous semesters. I was a wreck. The requirement was only two years (4 semesters) of piano (at the time...they may have changed it), so I didn't take keyboard instruments seriously again until my senior year, where I learned my voice teacher also taught organ. Such a sweet man! He unfortunately passed away in the middle of that fall semester, and then I had another sweetheart of a teacher pick up where he left off. My keyboard skills were finally improving, despite the trauma of that recital. Then, I moved to NYC for my Master's in composition, and the head of the department recommended an organ teacher. MISTAKES WERE MADE! The teacher he recommended and I didn't get along. He always made me so FRACKING nervous during lessons. Despite being prepared for every lesson out of fear, it would always devolve into him pushing a little harder than I could actually handle. One argument involved a scale in thirds and flexibility I just didn't have in my right hand from playing guitar with a pick for 20 odd years. It was torture! (Organ lessons did waive the requirement to take a piano proficiency exam, so small victory...I guess? Win the battle, but lose the war. lol) My one and only organ jury, my teacher was late, it was on an organ that was almost completely unfamiliar to me, and I did not have the warm-up time I was promised. It was an unequivocal disaster. It was in front of the head of the department chair who recommended this teacher in the first place, AND the head of the keyboard department! NOBODY was happy. That was 2015! It took me until 2019 to get the urge to take a whack at the Pifa from Messiah. Then, during the pandemic I learned that Prelude in C Major from Bach's WTC book 1! It made me so happy to make that progress! (admittedly, I have to thank my love of accordion...because without that, my keyboard skills probably would have atrophied past the point of no recovery) Anyway, point being my keyboard journey has been a long and messy road. I still have a ways to go to undo the damage from those rather traumatic experiences surrounding keyboard instruments, but hey! Slow progress is still progress right? ...and maybe my experience doesn't sound traumatic to folks who are used to teachers who are pushy...but for me, the piano and organ has that baggage now which I am slowly overcoming. That said, I always did pretty well in my guitar lessons and my voice lessons. I don't think my guitar or voice teachers' expectations were lower. I just think that my last organ teacher and I weren't a great match. Nothing personal, but that student/teacher relationship can really make or break you. Oh well. You live, you learn.

That is not a good thing. Such a shame they do that to you. I suppose you have no other place to go but actually you should find a better place. It is hard to keep your self worth in such conditions. I hope you tell yourself every day what you have achieved and at what things you are good at. Don't let them steal your soul and passion. They are incompetent teachers. I wish you all the best and hope to hear from you as a musician, conductor and composer soon!!!!!!!!!

I feel very bad for you. Teachers should lift and encourage their students. It's okay to point out mistakes, but they should also emphasize what you do well and inspire you. Making you feel worthless is not right. Don't let them destroy your love of music. Find inspiration elsewhere if you can (TwoSet works for me). I don't know how things work in your country, but I think it would be better to leave that school and pursue music elsewhere than to give up on music completely. If you have to stay there, try to find at least one teacher or faculty member who can support you. Even if the others are all jerks, if you have one who is helpful, you can make it through. You don't have to have the best grades to get your degree, you just have to pass. Then, once you're in the real world, you can prove yourself.

Same thing happened to me and I stopped going after a few months. Was the first time in my life that I began to hate music. Was all just a kiss ass image booster for the professors looking for teachers pets, whether they could play music or not. They didn't even have to be interested in music to be a teachers pet. Music had nothing to do with it. Hideous environment for a serious musician.

If a teacher is ruining your passion and love for your music, I would say talk to an administrator about this. I wouldn’t suggest giving up on your school before you try and fix the problem. Chances are, other students may have complained about your teacher before and it may get them fired. Or the teacher may get this feedback from the admin and try to improve their teaching. If you feel they are bullying you and other students, please take it up to administration. No university should be a playground for bullies. At my school, teachers were required to attend a lecture about how to critique another students work without demoralizing them. I had those teachers teach before they were required to attend that lecture, and they have made me cry in front of my class. After they took the required lecture (every year) I noticed they are much nicer to their students. Sometimes the teacher does not take in the fact that their students are human and trying to learn and improve. Sometimes the teacher doesn’t know they’re hurting the student’s passions instead of improving it. I don’t think my teachers wanted to make me cry, I think they were unaware of how to give constructive criticism. Before moving to another school, I’d say talk to your school about this issue.

That is very sad, I am sorry to hear that you are feeling this way. Keep in mind that instructors point out mistakes because they are trying to help you improve. I know it can feel very depressing to hear. That is why as an instructor I always try to point out specific details that students do well on, instead of just saying "that was good" but not saying why. I agree with those saying to go to administrators and talk about it, rather than just giving up right away. See if you can fix the problem with better communication. Best of luck to you!

Yep he's in the boy group TFBOYS

Twenty year's from now I'll remember this while reading the reviews.

TIL that g*po is short for g*psy. Didn't know that so thanks for pointing it out!

most of the gypsys i've met are super anti pc. they really don't care. (not using that as justification or anything)

From the vague information I got from the articles relating to the event in question, where a lecturer used the word in notes sent out amongst students, there were complaints from a significant number of students, the lecturer was sacked and then received damages under wrongful dismissal. I don't think there's any reasonable justification for the way it was used in an educational context, where it was proliferating mocking stereotypes of players of different types of instrument. The employment tribunal didn't consider it to justify sacking when they weighed the details of the case. You're welcome to your own opinion of who's allowed to say what. For any slur, you'll find varied opinions on how its received if you ask enough people from the targeted group. Just providing background for why the word got the response it did. I'd encourage people interested in more insight to google perspectives on the word, its use, and its background. It's not something I'd pretend to be a specialist on.

@@yaboi-km2qn same. Albeit, I've only met two Romani, a married couple. But I worked with the husband, whose name is Lucas, but no ever called him that. He told everyone to call him Gypsy. Seriously. I didn't even know his real name for the first two months of working with him, cuz he never wore his name tag 😅 (I only met his wife once, briefly, so we didn't talk much)

@@bideny2 in my country (and it's true for any European country basically) there is a huge gypsy minority in many cities, we call them gypsies, they call themselves gypsies, everyone knows they are gypsies and no-one gives a fuck. Some people really need to grow up and stop being offended by just a word, even worse, a word taken out of context. That's just stupid and childish. Also censoring word "gypsy" is kind of offensive, like what is wrong with being a gypsy and being called gypsy?

Amazing University with 2 great funny teachers who never forget to tell to practice and awesome students who actually practice 40 hours a day. Along with learning about classical music we also learn how to spot fake musicians we also learn how to roast. I totally recommend joining this uni

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 *chef's kiss*🤌 Currently enrolled there. What can I say? It's free, it made me want to learn and instrument and it makes me want to practice!

Free tuition, great dedicated teachers (who also know how to have fun) and a wonderful talented community 5 STARS!

It's a really unique place, the teachers and the community of their students are genuinly passionate about what they are doing. They educate you for free, even if you came here by accident and would never pass any entry exam, and it's so fascinating that you hope they will never stop.

Roy Wang is a pop star, so, yes basically? xD

Young boyband pop star who debuted at age 12 I think? Looked him up because was watching a Chinese Singing variety show called Our Song and he is one of the participating stars who I know nothing about. Though I did not know that's his English name... I only realized who that is after Twoset showed a cutout of him in the vid 😆 Those 2 girls are most likely his fangirls.

Giving the fact that he's a celebrity, he definitely has way more than just two fan girls

he's actually a massive celebrity in china lmao, i think he's got like sixty million fans (not even kidding)

There might be at least 40 million tbh 😂 If you look at social media followers... 80 million... Am his fan for 7 years already

Soyez le bienvenu! Sleep deprivation lies ahead! I mean it 3am for me now!!! And be warned, they may well inspire you to take up the violin!!!

I was like that, too, when I was 16. Lots of likes but no one wants to be the party pooper, so I’ll do it: statistically speaking, you will *not* make it; but you’re going to try anyway; I did. It’s going to cause a lot of crying, stress and trouble until you will give up. This will hopefully be a positive learning experience for your later life, because life is a constant string of failures - which is hard for a teenager to understand, yet. It’s the failures that shape us and how we deal with them. I wish you all the best & there is a “life after music”. 16 (or now 17) is still very young, take some time and effort (!) and talk to people and google realistic profiles of jobs and what might interest you. That one choice you are going to make is not going to glue you in place, if you are scared of that. Oh, and you don’t need to be a professional musician to enjoy and live music - took me way to long to “get” that. 👍

get well soon!

And if you're new, you have an amazing back catalogue of videos! Get well soon!

@@dorcasmalahlela2805 Was going to say the same... Weeks of back to back vid watching! Get well from me too...

@@oxoelfoxo Ty!

@@dorcasmalahlela2805 Ty! Been watching them for a while. :) Got torn acl reconstruction + meniscus tear surgery done

This is really good, important advice. And when looking at the instructors, people also make the mistake of looking for instructors who are/were more prominent performers instead of looking for the instructors who are known specifically for their teaching skills and track record of successful former students. Deep knowledge of the instrument and music in general is crucial for sure, but teaching is its own skill. The best teacher I had on the violin and viola was not the best performer I ever worked with, but he was the best at teaching and excellent at helping students become better at playing than he was.

Still haven't found a good voice teacher to this day. It seems the workings of the human voice are elusive and mysterious, even to singers and teachers who like to take your money and pretend they are doing you a favor (bad bad experiences with teachers, as you can see).

All the letters they know are A-G, of course they can't spell.

What relation to the word gypsy does it have? I haven't heard that version before

@@pakman184 It's a derivative of that word (which is also a slur). A lot of people outside of Europe aren't aware of that though.

@@pakman184 Same base word. G*po derivates directly from g*psy, just had an ending change (-psy was turned into a -po). Both are racial slurs.

Judging by the reviewer basically going "nyuh nyuh you're so bullied if you're not PC" I bet it wasn't fantastic context.

@@syntacticalcrab true true

also elton john did indeed study there haha

Going to junior academy next year!!! Really excited!!!

kind of off topic but do you make an effort to comment in every twoset video/short bc i swear i see you in every single one 🤨🤨/pos

@@laura-rr3mm oh, i’ve been following for a few years hehehe really a committed fangirl ig 😆

@@justary_9790 ohh okay :0 i’ve been watching them on and off since like 2019 so 😵😵 good on you tho

*Berklee. Berkeley is a completely different school.

Bumping this!

...they only skipped two days

Haha, I did that too 😂

AMAZING!!!!!

at least they're not giving a star rating

Well, since they personally know two very famous Curtis graduates, what they've "heard" is probably more accurate than general gossip anyone might hear.

@@elissahunt Certainly more accurate than "I took photos of the building and had a coffee 5 stars" :P

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Is it really Free? No complaints though. 😏 Many famous musicians from that school!

@@janie7242 There really is no tuition at all, but students still have to pay for housing, so it's not 100% free.

Julliard is a prestigious school with, wonderful location, above the NYC music library, next to the NYC culture center area ( Lincoln Center, Met Opera house, NYC ballet center). Great investment! 😍 IF YOU CAN GET IN! If you are so talented, then you will obtain a full scholarship! $200,000 is the average tuition to study in a great school in the USA!

@TheCartoon94 Dabs No, it’s the oligarchy in the US that makes us think that this should be the new normal. The US college/uni system is so corporatized it’s ridiculous. I went to a ridiculously overpriced school for undergrad ($52k/year) and it was more about living some ridiculous stereotype of “college” life with pretty dorms and good dining halls and nice facilities. Parties every weekend. But I pay around $2000 a year for a 2nd degree in Montréal (Canada) and my education is comparable. The division of the classes in the US is growing larger, and even “public” universities are exorbitant. Education now means years of debt for most. It’s really sad.