Jointer Size Doesn't Matter! Flatten Large Boards on a Smaller Jointer

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4 жыл бұрын

Jointer Size Doesn't Matter! I have a ton of HEAVY hickory to flatten that is larger then my jointer, today I will show you a two step trick to Flatten Large Boards on a Smaller Jointer.
I purchased an 8" jointer a while back and knew that it would not be large enough to handle all the different widths of wood that I would throw at the machine. But I believe your money will be better spent on a machine that you will often use 100% of the capacity and have a few tricks up your sleeve to still allow you to flatten larger slabs. Overhanging the board on the jointer will allow you to create a flat reference surface very easily. Then you can use your planer with a DIY jig on it to use that flat reference side to flatten the opposite side of your boards and you are off an running! Save tons of money on a smaller jointer but still have the capacity!
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@williampike6813 5 ай бұрын

Explained well, not too long, pleasant to watch. Thanks for not including garbage that others do such as obnoxiously loud jingle music, etc.

@grumblycurmudgeon 3 жыл бұрын

I've wondered for years why nobody else does this. I always assumed it was me doing something galactically-stupid, though (maybe due to how dangerous the exposed blades are... if you're inattentive or clumsy?) so I've only told a few people about it (both of whom chastised my recklessness). Kudos for having the stones to go public about it man! You're not alone! I've been surreptitiously working along the same exact process for years! For anyone wondering: yes, it works fine on a 6" jointer too, just bolt it down to the work cart and make damn sure she's gotta lotta weight to her. I solved it by making a single stand from 3/4" ply to hold jointer AND the planer (the planer added 100lbs straightaway. Plenty, but since I was twitchy about it, I made the bottom support plate hollow, then caulked it and filled it with sand. Add casters BEFORE you start. Mine prolly weighed 400lbs, total. Finally: outfeed and infeed. You REALLY want the support. I have a little removable shelf that runs in front of mine too, to support the front half of that board. Just make a mental note to always have either it or the guard in place at all times. The concern is if the stock overbalanced and tips forward, you don't want to lose your balance or instinctively flail... and set your hand down to catch yourself (wince). Awesome video bro!

@kasbakgaming 3 жыл бұрын

I've used this trick before. I prefer to use a laminated particleboard for the spacer for two reasons. One: It's not subject to warping due to humidity changes, and it's machine cut, so you're guaranteed a flat reference surface. Two: The lamination gives it a low friction surface to make the board glide easier. I also have a laminated board at full width and length that I use during normal operation to serve as an extension table for the planer, so I don't even have to adjust my height when I go to plane the full width of the board.

@deadspeedv 3 жыл бұрын

Good tip thanks Kasbak :)

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

No significant expansion or contraction to worry about?

@kasbakgaming 2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcosElMalo2 It's particle board, so there's no grain to change with humidity.

@arthooper5806 3 жыл бұрын

Dude this is a piece of information that I needed so badly! I have huge slabs that I need to work. And I have the exact same size equipment as you. So I will definitely be using this technique. But be careful working with that Joiner. I lost the end of my left little finger earlier this year to mine. And I am incredibly safe with my equipment handling. Processing heavy wood and getting tired can be a dangerous combination on that machine. Take care and continue the great work, Art

@Crunchy_ass_dad Жыл бұрын

This is a great break down of a very simple process that is usually over though. Thanks for getting straight to it! Best video I’ve watched in a while

@Keionspost 4 жыл бұрын

I've got other ways but this is by far the best way to get the job done. Good job

@mitzibud6908 4 жыл бұрын

Love, love, love your resourceful nature!!

@johnwurst6691 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing us your method. I will try it next time!

@eworth3 4 ай бұрын

That works great as long as you can flatten that partial first surface of the board in ONE PASS on your jointer. If it requires more than one pass to be flattened, you will have to remove the rabbeting ledge to make a second or third pass. The unplaned part of the board overhanging the infeed table also hangs below the level of the rabbeting ledge thus preventing a second pass. If you don't have a rabbeting ledge, you can use as many passes as you want to flatten that first surface of the board. Most of the lumber I use is rough hewn and takes more than one pass to flatten. If you're milling a lot of lumber, removing the rabbeting ledge makes sense - for one board, not so much. Thanks for the post. It's a good technique, especially if your jointer doesn't have a rabbeting ledge.

@mkbcoolman 4 жыл бұрын

I just used this technique this week for a 12" board. I have a 6" jointer and 13" planer. The pieces were only about 4' long, but it works like a charm. Just be patient and take your time making really shallow passes. This is a lifesaver for a small hobby shop like mine.

@Johnny-jr2lq 2 жыл бұрын

Welp Im not sure what I did but I completely jacked one side of my butcher block reloading bench. Have the ridged set up the 6” jointer and the 13” thickness plainer. The boards im working with are pine 2x4’s and around the edges are pine 4x4’s 8 foot long.

@alovemetropolis 3 жыл бұрын

This just made my day. Thanks!

@mattneff1262 2 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic!!! Looks like I'm making a jig for my planer today... Thanks!!

@willyzook 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome method! Thank you for sharing this!

@pemtax557 2 жыл бұрын

Well explained and demonstrated ... Thanks and Cheers!!

@2tipit 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, finally understood how to use the supporting board. I made mine with a 1 inch tick by 60 inch long melamine, easier to calculate the thickness of the finish board ounce you remove supporting board and a lot more slipper. Made a test today and wow

@sapelesteve 4 жыл бұрын

Nicely done Tyler! Good thing to know for sure... Stay safe.......👍👍😉😉

@3sticksoutdoors Жыл бұрын

I only have a 6" bench top jointer and it made things pretty tricky because the cherry boards I'm using have some crowning and twisting after drying. I had to get out a portable jointer and take the portion that overhung down in order to make additional passes to get it to ride the board on the planer without doing funky stuff. It's doing its job but adds some extra steps. Great video!

@BigJBizz 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant!

@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 8 ай бұрын

Great tip Tyler. Thanks for sharing. The wisdom you shared made me a new subscriber. I won’t repeat the other comments about safety, but please take them seriously. I’m sure they were meant seriously and out of concern for you. Now if only I could remember to practice what I (& others?) preach.

@finalcutchuck7357 3 жыл бұрын

BRILLIANT! LOVE IT.

@JLWoodArtistries 4 жыл бұрын

Great tip. Thanks for sharing.

@AlexanderGibbonsAudio 3 жыл бұрын

I feel dumb for not realising this, but in awe that it can be done. Great video!

@peterkiernan1668 4 жыл бұрын

Very good tips, thanks.

@user-fx9jj2xh1n 3 жыл бұрын

Clever solution. Thanks!

@richhagenchicago 2 жыл бұрын

Nice trick, I have an 8 inch jointer, and a very nice, but only 12 inch powermatic planer. I will put that trick in my toolbox for those 8 to 12" wide slabs. Thumbs up!

@popolkon 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks man, perfect decision :)

@BuckysCustoms 4 жыл бұрын

Where there is a will there is a way! Really enjoy your video's!

@iaidoman 3 жыл бұрын

that is pure genius..

@dennistaylor7655 3 жыл бұрын

Nice tip! You just saved me some money!!

@alfredocastro6181 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man excellent trick

@YourMomsSideDude 3 жыл бұрын

Good job, man, I learned something today.

@jeffkennedy5607 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the help.

@oxcart19 3 жыл бұрын

Oh boy, can't wait to try this!

@WhoCares-bj2dn 3 жыл бұрын

same here. i have only 6" and need 2 handle a 9" inch board... thought about ripping it in half and then dovetailing... now am going 2 give this a try.

@gordonmckay4780 3 жыл бұрын

Very cheeky! I like it.

@jimstewart1044 4 жыл бұрын

Great trick!

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video Tyler! Thanks for sharing it with us!💖👌👍😎JP

@terrylevasseur2819 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome tip. thanks!!

@beckdesignbuild6372 2 жыл бұрын

That is brilliant!

@randymarshall1267 10 ай бұрын

Great video! I've thought about doing that for a couple of years but was reluctant till I witnessed you doing just that. I have the same 8" jointer and a 1033X planer. Got some wide cherry lumber and didn't have a clue how I was going to process it. Now i know. Thanks

@michaelruss1742 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip.

@gd3design63 4 жыл бұрын

Great trick 👍

@pavelow235 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome trick man !

@Deep_Divers Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@timbertime7823 Жыл бұрын

I'm going to try this! It looks significantly more efficient than using a sled with hot glue and shims to stabilize the board for flattening the first side.

@willwatlington6750 2 жыл бұрын

Nice method! Thank you..

@giovannipetitti1588 4 жыл бұрын

very good Tyler.💯👍👏👏👏👏👏👏

@BronkBuilt 4 жыл бұрын

Great tip

@seanb9436 3 жыл бұрын

just bought a jointer and planer and was wondering if you could do this - thanks for the info!

@abuk44 4 жыл бұрын

this was gold , thank you !!

@claytonholton2749 3 жыл бұрын

great job little buddy!

@TefenCa 3 жыл бұрын

O.O Wish I had a workshop like that!

@thebobloblawshow8832 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea. 👍👍

@ruinunes8251 4 жыл бұрын

It makes perfect sense. I like the length of your jointer. I had one years ago (ELU made by Dewalt I think) but the length was much shorter.

@chrislowery330 3 жыл бұрын

Elu was bought out by Dewalt. They made some great tools but as the adage goes, if you can’t beat em, buy em out

@samuelsherman1822 2 жыл бұрын

This is very clever

@emedina403 3 жыл бұрын

Great tip, I just wish I had that kind of cash to buy such nice equipment! I followed your affiliate links and I'm a bit jealous at how expensive your jointer and planer are! Maybe one day.... but not today!

@delapopo1 4 жыл бұрын

IDK why i had never thought of this....thanks man!!!

@diyenthu2844 10 ай бұрын

Very clever!

@RDAUGIRD Жыл бұрын

Pretty slick!

@ironwoodautoentrepreneur3862 3 жыл бұрын

good job!! thanks

@josephjetton273 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! what a great tip. I have never needed to joint and plane a board that size. I do work with smaller boards and only have an old 4" jointer, and a 12" Shopsmith planer. I will be trying your idea very soon. Thanks and keep up the great videos.

@RonMarshallrone 4 жыл бұрын

This is awesome! I'm gonna try it tomorrow...it sure beats the hell out of hot gluing to a board with shims. thank you!

@RonMarshallrone 4 жыл бұрын

This worked great. One of the best tips I've seen and used on youtube. Works great for reducing snipe on smaller pieces as well. Very cool

@DIYTyler 4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped Rone!!👊🏻👊🏻

@jimrosson6702 Жыл бұрын

Great tips

@HebronGrandpa 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 6" jointer so can see there might be a problem. Thanks for the tip.

@oniechambers3522 24 күн бұрын

Wow that's cool thanks!!!!

@frankjames4573 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid... thanks

@enyoc3d 4 жыл бұрын

brilliant!

@paulnelson648 3 жыл бұрын

Super cool and intuitive trick! Now if only I can get my Grizzly Jointer off backorder this century.

@Creator_Nater 3 жыл бұрын

Well done

@garrettthornton3086 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@Arterexius 11 ай бұрын

It might seem small, but I highly appreciate the degree of safety you showed in this video, including turning the jointer off whenever your hand had the faintest chances of getting close to the rotating knives of the jointer. That's professionalism right there and it shows you respect the power of the machines you use. This video stands in stark contrast to most "how-to" videos on YT and I thank you for showing others proper tool safety guidelines. It is paramount to keep all limbs intact, from the womb to the grave.

@DIYTyler 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

@williamsturley6631 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding idea. Just be extra cautious Of course.

@DevinciDesign 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I’m impressed by your dust collection ! Can you make a video about that ? What are the specs or your collector ?

@matthewwright57 4 жыл бұрын

This works! But make sure that your board isnt more than twice as wide as your jointer, the center of gravity in the planer needs to be over the board. For these size tools 14inch would be the max.

@richragan4810 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@AntiViGames 3 жыл бұрын

OR if you want to save space just make a jointer sled for your planer and use that as a jointer. Not only is it cheaper because you don't have to buy a jointer but you also save space in your shop. There's plenty of jointer sleds out there so just look them up.

@79monroe79 3 жыл бұрын

Watched this when you first posted and finally used it today. Thanks. Super helpful on a twisted board.

@shaynesabala 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@michaeldenney286 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip and well demonstrated without any extra jabber. Gotta say though that when you reach over the end of the board with your finger tips right over the mouth of the cutter I had to pause and go get a stiff drink. Be careful pal!

@FredMcIntyre 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff Tyler! 😃👍🏻👊🏻 ..... Earlier in the week I was going to suggest this method to someone during a live stream on another channel, but it was a lot to type in that moment. I've seen this method before but couldn't remember where, but now I have your video to share!

@HalcyonGuitars 3 жыл бұрын

Way to think it out!

@acemany1126 4 жыл бұрын

Yes you do!!

@ragcell 3 жыл бұрын

He is not the only one who is "pure genius." This is fairly easy to figure out. I have seen similar techniques on the KZfaq machine. Still, nice job. I would seem that an outfeed support stand or whatever would be pretty helpful, particularly on that long, heavy board.

@timthorp5841 3 жыл бұрын

this is a great technique, but the following should be pointed out: -if your jointer has a rabbeting ledge (which yours has) you only get one pass to do the cut, otherwise the lug that is left behind will hold the board up as it hits the ledge -I have a jointer like this and the technique you describe still works, but I set the infeed table low so that I can make 1 deep cut

@mattheww7280 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@SuperBardley 2 жыл бұрын

Delta DJ20 has a removable rabbeting shelf.

@MB-us8dk 3 жыл бұрын

This was a massive piece but you want to keep the weight either right on top of the bit or in front of it

@jeffstewart395 Жыл бұрын

Insurance Company's have gotta love this video

@martyclack8782 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Tyler miss seeing the other channle hope you can work it out.

@casual257 4 жыл бұрын

wouldn't it be best to size the length board first, as long as it not too short?

@markschiavone8003 3 жыл бұрын

Just go ask the Perkins brothers if removing that guard is a good idea...

@timothydillon6421 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe hearing protection is a bad idea as well.

@super6baker910 3 жыл бұрын

I get what you are saying safety features are there for a reason and should not be removed but perkins was a very experienced wood worker who got complacent, an easy thing to do but very costly losing your fingers. This can be done but you better be on your game.

@matthewwright57 3 жыл бұрын

Also notice he put it back on before doing the edge jointing.

@jegr3398 2 жыл бұрын

Who the hell's that?

@williamshivers1115 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, just viewed this, and couldn't believe no one noticed that he turned the jointed on, then grabbed the board end fractions of a inch from the spinning finger remover! Consider yourself very Lucy man!

@martyjosephson4937 2 жыл бұрын

Shades of "Next Level Carpentry" you should have given him some credit Tyler?

@musiqman24 3 жыл бұрын

I knew size didn’t matter.... my gf lied!

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

“Just remember to . . .” You already lost me. 😂

@CyrilViXP 5 ай бұрын

The guy who invented this know-how is a genius

@andrewbrown8148 4 жыл бұрын

With that really long board, I thought you were going to have to break out the shop stretcher. :-) Nice technique~! Now, I just need an upgrade from my 12" lunchbox planer.

@Cactustone 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Do you have any rules of thumb for ratios? For example, if I have a 6" jointer and a 13" planer, woulda 6" support board support a 13" feed?

@jmac2o229 3 жыл бұрын

if i was to guess, i would assume you need your support board to be at least, preferably slightly over, half of the width of the board you're processing. So for a 13 inch board, you'd want a 6.5" or greater support board for the sake of stability. Can be done with smaller, like he said, but it'll just be more of a challenge

@MarkK01 2 жыл бұрын

Tyler, I see that you stepped up your game from Ridgid power tools. Congrats on that. What I am surprised with is you still only have such a low subscription count. I have followed your channel for years now but I have never paid much attention to your sub numbers.