Tyranids vs Death Guard NEW RULES - A 10th Edition Warhammer 40k Battle Report

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10 ай бұрын

What a day! We are playing the new Tyranids AND we have the new Balance Dataslate changes which flip the game on its head. Join us for a lovely evening of Warhammer!
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@sirspoonyTV
@sirspoonyTV 10 ай бұрын
Love that Death Guard!
@kylewells6871
@kylewells6871 10 ай бұрын
Morty is amazing, that ignore modifiers ability is great. Ignoring all the negative modifiers is dope, don't care about aoc, -1 to hit and wound, damage modifiers, movement debuffs.... and that new -1 bs/ws in contagion range is huge when things are engaged or you smoke/cloud of Flys. Death guards back on the menu for me.
@artkewl03
@artkewl03 10 ай бұрын
They’ve established in the update that an attack’s characteristics are different than the weapon/model characteristics. May not affect -1 damage or anything that directly affects the attack. Still quite useful though.
@joshuaadams3811
@joshuaadams3811 10 ай бұрын
​@artkewl03 can you link that please?
@artkewl03
@artkewl03 10 ай бұрын
@@joshuaadams3811 It’s in the Rules Commentary 1.1 that you can access on the war hammer community downloads page. “Attack’s Characteristics: When making an attack, that attack is considered to have the same characteristics and abilities as the weapon making the attack. If any modifiers apply to the characteristics or abilities of an attack, those changes do not apply to the weapon it is made with, nor do they apply to any other attacks made with that weapon.”
@artkewl03
@artkewl03 10 ай бұрын
@@joshuaadams3811 On page 17 of the commentary, under “Modifying Characteristics”, they list models, weapons, and attacks as separate things. Morty’s and Trajann’s ability is: “…..you can ignore any or all modifiers to the characteristics of models in that unit and/or any roll or test made for models in that unit….” It states nothing about attacks or weapons specifically.
@artkewl03
@artkewl03 10 ай бұрын
@@joshuaadams3811 On page 18, it further shows that attacks, models, and weapons are different things. They also throw units into the mix. “Ignoring Modifiers: ….When a rule states ‘you can ignore any or all modifiers’, it will list the characteristics, rolls or tests that you can ignore modifiers for….” The lack of weapons or attacks and only models being mentioned lends itself to -1 damage still taking effect, as well as -1 AP if I’m not mistaken.
@michaelprince5142
@michaelprince5142 10 ай бұрын
Did you add -1 toughness? You get it additionally to the new plague for the detachment.
@ValentinBaca
@ValentinBaca 9 ай бұрын
The Termagant's Skulking Horrors is D6", NOT 6"
@ShikiRen
@ShikiRen 10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the Hormagaunts also have the surge move. It should be any "Endless Multitudes" unit.
@korrul
@korrul 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact - Morty can shoot both his weapons, because he is a monster. If you read the pistol rule, both vehicles and monsters can should pistols and other weapons at the same time
@monsterman212
@monsterman212 10 ай бұрын
This was helpful thanks
@IceColdEmber
@IceColdEmber 10 ай бұрын
There are my two armies. I can't wait to see them both in action ❤
@jagius121
@jagius121 10 ай бұрын
Leave it to Bridger to pick literally the worst of the new faction rule lol. GG boys
@Jewus19
@Jewus19 10 ай бұрын
that was a giant OOF
@oc8473
@oc8473 10 ай бұрын
Yeah like I understand his logic but it was never going to matter with the norns. 2hrs in and it hasn't come up once I think
@von2320
@von2320 10 ай бұрын
Saved me 3 hours, thanks
@christopherdecock703
@christopherdecock703 10 ай бұрын
To be fair I don't think having all 3 options would have done much.
@tzeentchian
@tzeentchian 10 ай бұрын
Was definitely the right choice, and came up several times
@Doomshaper1
@Doomshaper1 10 ай бұрын
What terrain did you guys use in this vid?
@TheBeetleKing
@TheBeetleKing 8 ай бұрын
@56:00 Had the same thing in Texas
@RickJagger13
@RickJagger13 10 ай бұрын
i really love both these armies but my heart and the rest of my biomass belongs to the tyranids
@Mr-Man
@Mr-Man 10 ай бұрын
Someone please tell me where that terrain is from it looks gorgeous
@MegaBsterling
@MegaBsterling 10 ай бұрын
does the gants surging into the middle not stop area denial turn 1 because Bridger scores it at the end of his turn and he has to prevent opponent from being within 6?
@zacharytresidentdigimonenj3397
@zacharytresidentdigimonenj3397 10 ай бұрын
Why did typhus get to use his psychic attack on the parasite on the tyranids turn?
@lukepoplawski3230
@lukepoplawski3230 10 ай бұрын
Did they CHANGE towering? I can’t find it online.
@UnkaStunka
@UnkaStunka 10 ай бұрын
People saying -1 in bs and ws is the worst one is just crazy it is in most cases the autotake. Together with Cloud of flies or paired with Typhus -1 to hit in a big fat terminator unit it can be very effective.
@N3MESIS93
@N3MESIS93 10 ай бұрын
I began to watch... at 12:03, what's that mouvement phase ? You can't do this upon the roof of a building :/
@SWARMXIII
@SWARMXIII 9 ай бұрын
He needed to move down each floor unless he advanced and got a great roll. Maybe I missed it.
@N3MESIS93
@N3MESIS93 9 ай бұрын
​@@SWARMXIII Theire are 3 floors, each one at 3', so 9', a PM move of 5, he needed to move of 16 for this move... ^^
@periklischaralampidis3779
@periklischaralampidis3779 10 ай бұрын
Can someone please explain me how the Boilblight Strat would work? Lets say i have my Drone get close to an enemy unit and i declare it , will for example a unit of 3MBH get the heavy bonus on their meltas vs that unit?
@joheras9330
@joheras9330 10 ай бұрын
So long as 1 unit targeted by the strat is in range enemy units shot in that contagion range gain heavy and ignores cover rules
@lindraeson
@lindraeson 10 ай бұрын
Poxwalkers are lethal
@Ben-kc9ye
@Ben-kc9ye 10 ай бұрын
In lore, wouldn't nurgle be a solid counter to the tyrranid doom? Rotting out all the hive fleets?
@jacob-nj4gm
@jacob-nj4gm 10 ай бұрын
In theory no but the last time they fought it was on a paradise world and what ended up happening is they both plagued and poisoned the air so much that both sides died and turned into a liquid pool. Only thing left was the hive fleet itself. The fleet tried to send a tendril down to collect and the second it entered the atmosphere the tendril immediately shriveled up because of how toxic and diseased the air is from both sides so the hive fleet was forced to go hungry. Tyranids won that fight but obviously in the perspective of war overall Nurgel won because most of his forces will come back where as the Tyranids lost biomass which for them is bad. However to be fair I think it was a hive fleet that's not designed to fight chaos like hive fleet Kronos is. If I had to guess the hive fleet I would guess Medusa because of the fact venomthropes were being used a lot which is pretty on brand for Medusa which specializes in poison and parasitic attacks. Keep in mind any hive fleet can do parasites and poisons it's just that Medusa fleet really loves that particular fighting style.
@dongalt4203
@dongalt4203 10 ай бұрын
Painting a Hellbrute and two Oblits (BL)while listening to/watching this before bedtime for bonzos. Go Death Gaurd! LET THE INSECTS FEAST UPON THE PESTILENCE THAT SHALL BE THEIR END!!! Lol.😂
@davidhabichNL
@davidhabichNL 10 ай бұрын
I dont feel all the battle shock tests were made. Could have turned the tide.
@monsterman212
@monsterman212 10 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure OC can be reduced to zero with contagion. Page 17 of rules commentary says OC can never be reduced to below 0.
@joshuatreyhill
@joshuatreyhill 10 ай бұрын
Honestly with DG, you’ve kinda GOT to start something off the board. Jon pinned them down early, and with PBCs you can focus the units in the opp’s deployment zone to make a hole for them.
@caseymon55
@caseymon55 10 ай бұрын
Termagant reaction moves are D6, not 6 I thought
@ValentinBaca
@ValentinBaca 9 ай бұрын
You're correct. The Termagant's Skulking Horrors is D6", NOT 6"
@sodapopbrosky
@sodapopbrosky 10 ай бұрын
Papa bless! 🪰🪰🪰
@michaelweber6790
@michaelweber6790 10 ай бұрын
my Amries for this edition will be only Tyranids and Necrons. Have Deathguard, Genstealer Cult and Blood Angels as well but will stick to only a pair of codizes.
@Jewus19
@Jewus19 10 ай бұрын
1975pts on the Death guard side.
@getjinxed7354
@getjinxed7354 10 ай бұрын
gw has specifically said u can use gladius lol.
@UnkaStunka
@UnkaStunka 10 ай бұрын
Still not worth 165p imo, actually with the pointdrops everwhere I belive dropping the crawlers for a real actual army is a better option now.
@newonlinetheatren.o.t1339
@newonlinetheatren.o.t1339 10 ай бұрын
You guys should re-read the biovore rules
@RickJagger13
@RickJagger13 10 ай бұрын
so weird dance want part of our curriculum lol *CA guy
@sirshmoopyfox
@sirshmoopyfox 10 ай бұрын
MORTY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lets go DG
@josephp4031
@josephp4031 10 ай бұрын
@peterjohnson7879
@peterjohnson7879 10 ай бұрын
Since everyone has been wanting a toughness buff the -1 bs/ws is what we all came here to see. That or worsening the save characteristic. Wasted opportunity here in my opinion sorry guys. Enjoyed otherwise though!
@benhayden9198
@benhayden9198 5 ай бұрын
I feel so pressured to like 😬
@NecroGoblin-yl2fx
@NecroGoblin-yl2fx 10 ай бұрын
remember according to the new rules you can not Overwatch for free unless it specifies Overwatch :)
@owenfifield92
@owenfifield92 9 ай бұрын
i clicked the button
@UnkaStunka
@UnkaStunka 10 ай бұрын
Heavy handed? I think not. The game is in serious distress big changes where certainty called for. There is thousands of games and very clear statistics to read. I would rather ask is it enough? Remember the edition will only last a couple of years and there is alot of issues with 10th
@innerforce7395
@innerforce7395 10 ай бұрын
12:10 and 12:52 that movement made on the blightlords terminators who move 4" as if they fly down to floor is not done legal. You must measure the vertical distance and move downwards. I bet that diagonal movement from the roof is more than 4 inches.
@justinmcmurtrey9117
@justinmcmurtrey9117 10 ай бұрын
A lot of times, they will put models on the top floor just so the viewer can see them. That’s probably the case for this.
@innerforce7395
@innerforce7395 10 ай бұрын
@@justinmcmurtrey9117 once they are deployed the game start and no after. If they want to show case the army just can film them on armies overviews.
@yourboiapollo-fn2zd
@yourboiapollo-fn2zd 10 ай бұрын
as they have a Birdseye camera view the models on top are actually on the bottom floor so the viewers can see where everything is
@teamnecrocasters2210
@teamnecrocasters2210 10 ай бұрын
Death Guard all the way!
@HitHome5
@HitHome5 10 ай бұрын
Love some death guard content 🤢🤮☠️
@yveshermans1869
@yveshermans1869 10 ай бұрын
to bad it's the least interesting one..
@jonathanbrindley3592
@jonathanbrindley3592 10 ай бұрын
At the -1 to OC choice i stopped watching
@terranceserrano2397
@terranceserrano2397 10 ай бұрын
Not a single cultist from DG 🥲 no 7 man units and 3 crawlers they only came done 10 points still not worth imo bring a present for the love of nurgle lol
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