U.S. NAVY MAIN BATTERY FIRE CONTROL NAVAL GUNFIRE TRAINING FILM 81604

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5 жыл бұрын

Made in 1954, this U.S. Navy film shows the main battery fire control procedures aboard a heavy cruiser or battleship. The film shows a target being acquired, general quarters being sounded (1:30), and the general alarm being sounded (1:50). At 2:00, the fire control procedures are shown as the ship prepares to fire its main battery. The bridge, combat information center, control forward (location of the gunnery officer), and control aft are shown. Spot one and two are shown at 3:19, as well as the battery control director, which can fix the location of enemy targets. The Main Battery Targeting room is shown at 3:37. At 7:16, the Main Battery Officer gives the order to make a primary attack using a given fire control set-up. At 9;35, the sight angle and deflection as well as other values received from the plotting room are input, to align the turret with the target. At 12:22, the order to shoot is given and the results assessed. Salvos are now launched and at 13:00, rapid loading of the guns is seen with ammunition bags and shells being quickly moved into position and guns fired when ready. At 16:00 the ship secures from general quarters and the target is pronounced destroyed.
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@damilla1958 4 жыл бұрын

I wish that I could have watched this with my Dad. He was Main Battery Plot on BB-48 USS West Virginia during WWII. It would have been great to have him elaborate on this, and to hear more of his "War Stories!"

@achtungbaby91u26 4 жыл бұрын

These are air soft pellets compared to the west Virginia shells!

@PhantomP63 2 жыл бұрын

The things he must have seen. WeeVee got a first-salvo hit at the start of the Surigao engagement- outstanding accuracy!

@altonmedcalf5790 4 жыл бұрын

I was a missile fire control tech in the 70-80's. It was amazing to learn our capabilities. But what really brought it home was when we were shown the laborious and time consuming analog systems that our fathers had to work with and how they mastered it. Tip my hat to those guys.

@josecanusee680 6 ай бұрын

I was a FTG on board a Gearing class DD, range operator on the MK1A Fire control computer, totally analog, compuer was HUGE! But once locked in, devastating fire accuracy. USS Agerholm, DD826, had some of the best NGFS scores on the west coast! We fired a ton of rounds at San Clemente island.

@allandavis8201 5 жыл бұрын

Even though this is a very old training film it was very interesting and informative to us history buffs, thanks for sharing. 👍

@robscott8296 5 жыл бұрын

Dj Phantom your right about that sailor

@aaaht3810 5 жыл бұрын

The complexity and ingenuity of the guns and fire control systems on these battleships and cruisers always amazed me. Even the old Mk 1A computer and 5"38 guns on my old Gearing class FRAM I destroyer were fascinating.

@davidrobinson7112 4 жыл бұрын

Hannibal C. Ford would be proud to see his range keeper displayed and explained. GO NAVY! HURRAH!

@josecanusee680 6 ай бұрын

USS Agerholm, DD826 used that same equipment!! Had both forward mounts after FRAM and memory says FRAM 2 but can't remember which, 1 or 2!

@aaaht3810 6 ай бұрын

Yes. I served on USS Hollister (DD-788). FRAM I.@@josecanusee680

@AndreiTupolev 4 жыл бұрын

Turret #2 sounding smug at getting off two more rounds than #1, then #3 trumps them all with 33!

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing they could hit anything with that convoluted setup

@davidwise1302 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, 1950's or earlier. Whenever you see the US flag with a regular rectangle of stars, you know that it was before the inclusion of the states of Alaska (49) and Hawaii (50).

@AdamosDad 4 жыл бұрын

Good point, It says 1954 in the video description.

@AndreiTupolev 4 жыл бұрын

I love the way they blow the bosun's pipe* and the bugle down the tannoy. :D * stop it

@hatuletoh 4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. You'd think by 1954 they'd have some sort of recording they could play, but maybe there's a certain timbre you only get from the live performance of a man blowing a horn into a tube.

@biguncle554 4 жыл бұрын

That horn gives the ship +10 moral

@casualobserver3145 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. We were still piped to quarters in 1980. No bugle though.

@ADRIAAN1007 4 жыл бұрын

Never knew they used radar reflections from the water columns of the missed shells to calculate a 2 dimensional map for lead and distance.

@KJs581 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, called a B scope. Most are familiar with a PPI (360 degree sweep radar screen); but the first radars were A scopes (range/amplitude) which were used for most AA tracking. B scope shows range/bearing and generally a "magnified" small portion of the surface around the target. Splash spotting reported and corrected. Initially, surface engagements used a director to track/shoot surface targets, but as the directors became more sensitive/sophisticated and optimised for AA, they moved to either desensitising the director for surface targets (to resist surface reflections (clutter) ) ; or using a surface search radar for "track while scan." The surface search radar is used for the splash spotting observation. Now they have moved from that to phased array systems. Spent 40 years working with that stuff, starting with MRS-3 (903/293 radar, type 12 DE), through M22/M44 (type 12 DE/Daring DD), then 9LV-453 (Anzac class FFH). Loved it.

@piotrd.4850 4 жыл бұрын

@@KJs581 Same was for aircraft and even early Buk Systems in USSR had separates scopes for range / elevations.

@peterbills4129 5 жыл бұрын

Outstanding Turret #3. 33 rounds downrange! Turret 2 report to the mess hall, and turret 3 to the bridge.

@Thunderdog73 5 жыл бұрын

Fascinating and excellent video. Thank you US Navy and contractors.

@AdamosDad 4 жыл бұрын

Great concise picture of battle order. My time was a little later but still on mid to late 40's cruisers. USS Newport News (CA-148) my time aboard 1968-69-70 Call sign THUNDER flag hoist; November - India - Quebec - Quebec Then onboard the USS Springfield (CLG-7) 71-72 Flag Hoist/Radio Call Sign: November - Whiskey - Delta - Mike. Our guns we fully automatic with brass powder charge, loading and firing in any position. We could theoretically fire all 1400 rounds of 8" in 15 min. . "Fair Winds and Following Seas" Brothers

@AdamosDad 4 жыл бұрын

@LUCKYDUCKY 62 We could get a little bored at times that's why we went wild with so many women in so many different countries, sorry you missed out.

@VideosfromNH 4 жыл бұрын

0:00 Wow, they had HD, 2K, and email addresses back in 1954? Mind blown in B&W.

@USSBB62 5 жыл бұрын

You can get all your answers. If your ever in Philly or across the river in Camden, New Jersey. BB 62 USS New Jersey is open to the public. Every day and a bunch of different tours. Including the newest one down the main passageway in the center of the ship. We called it Broadway

@adamtarbaux7769 5 жыл бұрын

Same thing in LA on uss Iowa

@stevewhite6252 4 жыл бұрын

I have toured both the New Jersey and the North Carolina. The North Carolina, located in Wilmington, is a much better touring experience because it basically has unrestricted access to everything. There are lots of restrictions on the New Jersey. For example, the engine room cannot be viewed. I was told it was because of the State of New Jersey safety regulations.

@sixstringmarauder 4 жыл бұрын

Being an airdale back in the seventies I can appreciate the work it took to engage tangos on the water some miles away.

@wildntheyoung7814 5 жыл бұрын

My grandfather served on A Baltimore class Heavy cruder like this one He served on the USS Toledo CA 133 1946-50

@mnfrench7603 5 жыл бұрын

My dad was on the Baltimore 51-53. Marine Detachment.

@jimjonrs3932 4 жыл бұрын

A heavy cruder...... those were pretty rare.

@taterhead248 4 жыл бұрын

Aloha. I keep an eye out for my Fathers presence in these tutorials flicks. He was a Gunners mate on the USS ST. PAUL,CA-73. Korean War. Then onto the USS CAG-2 CANBERRA as a Weapons Systems Officer for the "Terrior" Surface to Air Missile defense system during Cuba Blockade of '62(?). Always was intrigued about these big sexy, fast, Heavy Cruisers.

@joecalobeer6396 4 жыл бұрын

What a crew! Those guys obviously trained constantly to eliminate the enemy... kill or be killed! As a bomb loader in the Air Force, I learned what it was like to be a team player and a viable member of a crew. What was sooo cool about the training is, you were always trying to be better, to improve. To be the most safe and reliable while trying to do it in the least amount of time. Teamwork!!!👍🏼

@MrWlbblw 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks. I'm currently working on Little Rock's plot rooms with a couple other guys. Neat to see them here looking sharp.

@jebsails2837 5 жыл бұрын

Saw this film as part of my training in FT-A School at G.L. I preferred the more subtle (quiet) approach to Fire Control so I volunteered for Submarine duty and served on-board WWII Diesel Electric Boats from the mid 60's until the end. Green Board. Narragansett Bay

@PeriscopeFilm 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your service to our great nation and -- keep the bubble!

@atassaro 5 жыл бұрын

I also saw this at FT school in Great Lakes back in 63. Also went to sub school and served on USS Carbonero SS337 in PH.

@robscott8296 5 жыл бұрын

1:30 GQ ( general quarters) firing 11:47 12:33 rapid fire 13:08, ceasefire 14:28 shell count 14:43 secure from General quarters 16:01

@user-td1zo3tv9p 4 жыл бұрын

Now it's time to clean those HUGE barrels!! NOT an envious task, I'm sure. God Bless our Men and Women who serve in out military forces!!

@taotoo2 4 жыл бұрын

@01000110 ! Serve not served.

@user-td1zo3tv9p 4 жыл бұрын

@01000110 !, was meant to refer to the present say compliment of Military personnel, but, YES, Women, too. I'll go one better to say we need to include FAMILY MEMBERS of ALL Service Personnel because THEY "Serve" by keeping the home fires burning and keeping the family unit together as well.

@chrisazure1624 5 жыл бұрын

My dad was on the the shore of Borneo in WWII and saw a bridge being protected by a battleship 20 miles offshore. Each time a Japanese tank tried to cross the bridge, it was being spotted by a plane and shot off the bridge by the ship. When my dad told me about the accuracy, I was dubious. However, a Korean War Navy vet confirmed they could do that at that time with the technology of the day.

@blakewerner4368 4 жыл бұрын

i remember once it was a slow day (we were in condition 3) on the gun line so we spend the watch trying to get a water buffalo with our 8in guns. i think it finally wandered out of range, not sure as i was in the t2 powder handling room feedin the elevator. i heard we never got it. they may not of been super accurate but we could put a shitload of projectiles in the air before the 1st one hit when we had to. i used to get the powder lined up all around me so all i had to do was knock them in. ruined my knees and back, if i had only known that then. i probably wouldn't of changed the way i did it though. (this was westpac 68, ca148) our turrets were more rapid fire that that one, and we used brass powder instead of cloth bags. they looked like big shotgun shells. we had to go deckside and secure the brass amidships on the o1 level every now and then, they would litter the deck all around the turret. they reloaded them is why, though we traded a bunch in hong kong to get new parts of the teak deck replaced. the projectiles were big and heavy, you couldn't roll them along like you could the powder ones. i remember we used to think the empty brass weighed 90 lbs, not sure were i heard that but they got your shirts all dirty from carrying them on yer shoulder after they were fired. you could tell a guy who worked in the turrets. i always envied the 5 in mount guys, the shells were pitched overboard automatically pretty much.

@ScienceChap 4 жыл бұрын

The ballistics of artillery can be figured out with a slide rule. The gyrostabiliser was a huge help and the ships' crews were extremely well trained. They were trained to hit other ships. Tanks on a fixed bridge would be easy meat...

@brendaproffitt4807 5 жыл бұрын

I thought they were supposed to block off areas when attack and the guns look big as well the shell's for them tbis is an awesome film thank you so much

@casualobserver3145 4 жыл бұрын

My GQ Station aboard a guided missile cruiser was in CIC. With more electronics & computer guidance this is still basically how it all flowed...but much faster. It’s amazing that with drills and training everything (...and everyone) goes into “auto”. BTW....when my 1st Class found out what cake job CIC was compared to the Repair Lockers & Rad Control, I was immediately reassigned! Lol

@redskindan78 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine all this during a battle, say any of the cruiser battles during the Guadalcanal campaign. Blips appearing, decisions -- friend or foe? Firing as fast as possible while being hit. Hard to believe, but sailors kept all that together, carried out these steps, maybe simplified, but even loading a gun is complex. Taking hits, stations being destroyed and backups taking over. Complex coordination and all of it life or death.

@CaesarInVa 4 жыл бұрын

and....at night!

@JasonBlack66 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Merica. I have always loved you from Straya!

@gadooooo1 5 жыл бұрын

This is the speed my 10 year old takes to make one play in the Battleship board game.

@benn454 4 жыл бұрын

85 rounds of 16 inch AP? Someone had a VERY bad day.

@wayneparker9331 4 жыл бұрын

The ship was a heavy cruiser so it was shooting 8" AP shells in this video clip. Still rather large (in excess of 250 lbs) and would ruin most any vessel's day.

@ZerokillerOppel1 4 жыл бұрын

Magnificent movie!!! Only I think those sailors on the deck and on top of the turret (10:24) wouldn't be standing there if there was real fighting going on...

@nadtz 4 жыл бұрын

Drachinifel has a video where he talks about a gun being directed from someone standing on top of the turret after communication was severed in some manner or another. I'd imagine it takes bawls of steel to do that or be on the deck in general during an engagement though. Either way gotta respect the old school navy guys, no question.

@garyhaber333 4 жыл бұрын

My uncle was on the Burlingame, he was a lowly MS.

@ariochiv 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks goodness I don't have to go through all that in World of Warships. I'd never hit anything.

@jkdm7653 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting film...thanks! 34,000 yds. is nearly 20 miles...a bit long for 8" guns.

@johnknapp952 4 жыл бұрын

They came to 26,000 yds. before opening fire.

@rjrestorationstation4402 4 жыл бұрын

John Knapp A mere 14.77 miles!

@tonytrotta9322 4 жыл бұрын

USS Louisville CA 28 carried (9) 8 inch 55 caliber guns - range was 18 miles 31,860 yd (29,130 m) at the maximum elevation of 41 degrees. Shore bombardment the navy ships moved in close to inflict as much damage as possible.

@Hamchunk1968 4 жыл бұрын

34K was when they picked up the target. Plot figures out a course to intercept based on what the captain wants to open fire at.

@mayfieldcourt 4 жыл бұрын

Possibly a Baltimore-class Cruiser CA-68? Interesting that the crew are not wearing flash-hoods at battle stations. Possibly a hot-weather mitigation? Great video, thanks for sharing.

@MrWlbblw 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like "132", that'd be USS MACON

@ramsoncole4605 5 жыл бұрын

Dig the Space Balls helmets at 11:38

@USSBB62 5 жыл бұрын

If you have Sound Powered Phones on your head you needed a goofy large helmet like that. Remember; Communications is super necessary to stay alive.

@ramsoncole4605 5 жыл бұрын

@@USSBB62 Yeah, I was in the Navy for 10 years...just thought it looked pretty funny :)

@USSBB62 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, you bet. In the Viet Era I was the third enlisted abord. A Master Chief,Senior Chief and me a Seaman Apprentice. (Guess who became the Captains Driver.) LOL. From Recommissoning to Viet Nam to Decommissoning Enjoyed every minute on BB62.@@ramsoncole4605

@davidtoth8975 4 жыл бұрын

Remember the ridiculous helmets of the death star gunners from star wars? Possibly it originates from these.

@AdamosDad 4 жыл бұрын

@@USSBB62 "Fair Winds and Following Seas" Brother USS Newport News (CA-148)

@ronsmith4325 Жыл бұрын

Firing process is so horribly inefficient, but back in the day that wasn't really an issue. Today, this ship would have been minced meat before they even got the turret ready messages to spot. Lol.

@travistolbert2647 4 жыл бұрын

Need to give the boys in turret three an extra day of shore leave and the turret one crew some extra training! lol

@derhesligebonsaibaum 4 жыл бұрын

Nobody: KZfaq: Subscribers of Drachinifel also watched

@mrdoge9508 4 жыл бұрын

Greetings fellow drach watcher.

@Bigmike3406E Жыл бұрын

My dad was on the USS Indiana in WWll

@Milkman3572000 4 жыл бұрын

This was a cruiser? Very interesting.

@PointyTailofSatan 4 жыл бұрын

Hide the trumpet and the whistle, and the ship is helpless!

@stevefreeland9255 4 жыл бұрын

Why do they use three sounds to call general quarters: pipe, bugle, and chimes/bells?

@1960jims 4 жыл бұрын

The repetition of sounds and orders is Navy tradition to eliminate the possibility of mistakes. In the year 2019 with computers things go a lot quicker without the middlmen. They can slew a turret or aim a missle in seconds. In the case of a missile the target is already known and pre-programmed. The fireing sequence takes less than a minute.

@jcfireman2215 4 жыл бұрын

We never spoke that slow when at GQ

@briansmith6445 2 ай бұрын

Training film. Crawl, walk, run, eh?

@nubi78 Жыл бұрын

Holy cows how many people have to stand at various positions just to relay commands? One could use a panel of lights to relay all of that and save all of that manpower.

@dbaider9467 4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. How did they compensate for the weight of the barrels hanging over the side of the ship, or did they need to at all?

@bcoop1701 4 жыл бұрын

The turrets are counterbalanced so the weight of the barrels doesn't cause the ship to list in the direction they are pointing (if off of centerline). Early American battleships (prior to USS Illinois BB-7) had unbalanced turrets so when the turrets turned to the side the ship listed over in that direction limiting gun elevation and therefore maximum range. It also lowered the armored belt on that side to near or under the waterline reducing its effectiveness. So counterbalancing was definitely necessary for capital ships and probably at least cruisers as well, once they started carrying centerline turrets. Reference: www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_13-35_mk1.php

@vintagelife5195 5 жыл бұрын

Most of those positions are still on ship. FC's and OS's man them. I was the OS.

@glennrishton5679 5 жыл бұрын

I was the firecontrolman but on the Tartar missile fire control radar 51C

@floofycatz 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, light 'em up after a succesful gun run. Can you do that in this day and age now?

@goldendreams3437 5 жыл бұрын

What are those headphones they use! There so cool

@billhuber2964 5 жыл бұрын

Try wearing them for a few hours. You will get cauliflower ears.

@glennrishton5679 5 жыл бұрын

Those are sound powered phones no outside source of electricity required and so true, wearing them for a few hours did get tiresome.

@FleetAdmiralVildstar 4 жыл бұрын

was that a baltimore class heavy cruiser?

@jamess4869 4 жыл бұрын

USS Mullinnix DD944 Fire Control Sailor..3-5in54 mounts, 1-3in50 mount, hedgehogs forward. We had MK 68 and 56 GFCS.....Shore bomb Vietnam , Boom Boom liberty call in the Philippines....

@jamess4869 4 жыл бұрын

Surface action port, Qn the mark the target will bear, Stand by for heavy rolls while the ship is coming about, See the corpsman before you go on liberty and get your rubbers.

@AndreiTupolev 4 жыл бұрын

I suspect they'd be showing a little more emotion if they really had blown the whoever it might be, Russian cruiser out of the water. They didn't seem at all worried about return fire. Do we presume for the purposes of this exercise that the enemy didn't have radar of their own and never even knew they were there?

@Hamchunk1968 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. I'm sure if they were engaging the Graf Spee or Prinz Eugen, there'd be a bit more excitement and urgency. Especially if they were being straddled. 😄

@biguncle554 4 жыл бұрын

I dont think that guy would actually be standing on top of the turret if it was a real battle lol

@knightlife98 4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know what kind of gun, those sailors are loading @10:53? Because, I do know that one could not be throwing the powder bags of a 50 caliber, 16 inch, Mark 7 Naval Gun, around like that.....

@AKAtheA 4 жыл бұрын

check the comments... Baltimore class, so Mark 12 8-inchers, 55 cal. Each bag is 43 lbs, AP projectile is 335 lbs.

@knightlife98 4 жыл бұрын

@@AKAtheA Awesome, thanks Bro! Thanks for the reply!

@PaulHigginbothamSr 4 жыл бұрын

With the addition of electromagnetic shooters pulling the snuffies out this could attack the islands in the South China sea. To improve world trading obstructions.

@captainrevenge5960 5 жыл бұрын

A 3 hull numbered vessel, guessing its either a late Baltimore or Oregon City class heavy cruiser

@Kevik70 4 жыл бұрын

Looking at time stamp 0:26, there are two smoke stacks. This and the layout of the 5in secondary batteries would would make it a Baltimore Class cruiser. Oregon City and Des Monies Classes both have a single funnel. The Des Monies/ Salem/ Newport News also have auto loading 8in batteries where the vessel in this video is manually loaded. Looking at the hull number displayed it appears to be either 132 the USS Macon or 133 the USS Toledo, both of which are Baltimore Class Cruisers.

@rjrestorationstation4402 4 жыл бұрын

Kevik70 At 6:23 a Battle Bill for CA-905 USS Burlingame appears. I found info about WW2 sub skipper by that name, but no entry re: cruiser by that name...🤔🧐😳 odd

@Kevik70 4 жыл бұрын

@Travis Thacker Here's a video of the particular gun. It's really quite amazing thing to watch. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d756fKhmldDclKs.html

@7071t6 8 ай бұрын

@ the 14:20 mark, Now we know where George lucas got the idea for the stormtrooper helmets, lol 🦘🦘👍👍

@DUA1939 4 жыл бұрын

You didn't sink him! He just engaged the WoW cloaking device!

@josephkeeney4789 5 жыл бұрын

We had it in 67 didn't work to well used human control much better.

@hatuletoh 4 жыл бұрын

What I'm genuinely curious about is: would ships have auditions amongst the crew to see who got the job of bugler, or was that a specific navy MOS, with buglers posted to ships as part of the crew compliment, like any other technical specialist? And if that was the case, did it mean a ship would need a few buglers so that one was always available on the bridge in case general quarters was sounded?

@1917Enfield 4 жыл бұрын

As a former Bosun's Mate, it was part of the Rating. Ratings are the Navy's version of an MOS. The Bosun's Mate of the Watch is the man that makes general announcements and Pipes General Quarters and the like. Buglers were Bosun's mates, tho they received the training.

@hatuletoh 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, and slightly amusing imagining a mighty modern warship cutting through swells at flank speed, turning as it brings its big guns to bear on some distant enemy; and there is one guy aboard who's mind is on remembering to not to to flat in the fourth measure. Thanks to all for the info.

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын

The Navy still has Musician and band members.

@billbrydon3725 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this up at around four minutes, though, your watermark blocks the video.

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@SocialistDistancing 4 жыл бұрын

What's interesting to me is that there was no protective gear worn in the turrets. Also, it seemed to take a long time to get ready to put rounds down range. I'm sure that it happened a lot faster in real time.

@Internutt2023 2 жыл бұрын

There is another KZfaq video showing a 16" / 50 Cal being fired, and one of the loudest noises in the gun room is when the barrel is cleared with high pressure air just before/ when the breech is opened. I'd imagine it was literally deafening to do any rapid succession firing. They say a good crew could get 2 rounds a minute off per barrel, but that's with everything going well.

@wesparker6624 5 жыл бұрын

What was the ca in the film?

@Mishn0 5 жыл бұрын

I think the number is 132 so that would make her the USS Macon. It's kind of hard to make out though, but I'm sure it's not CA-905, USS Burlingame!

@wesparker6624 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mishn0 Didn't look like an airship to me😏

@wesparker6624 5 жыл бұрын

Seriously, thanks. I thought it looked like a Baltimore class, but I couldn't make out the hull number.

@aaaht3810 5 жыл бұрын

Looks to like USS Macon CA-132. Baltimore class cruiser.

@jkdm7653 4 жыл бұрын

@Jackson Stewart It was a Baltimore class...twin stacks. Des Moines and Salem had one stack.

@contrapantera 5 жыл бұрын

Si, pero cuando se estaba en combate era otra cosa, es diferente las practicas a cuando desde el otro lado también te estaban disparando a matar.

@david9783 4 жыл бұрын

Tienes razon..

@conantdog 5 жыл бұрын

Very carefully

@alexmontgomery255 4 жыл бұрын

Is it true that low flying aircraft could be damaged or destroyed by the splashes of large caliber rounds?

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын

Not true. Mains are not used for AA.

@wandabordner9893 4 жыл бұрын

Fc3 rangefinder operator 45to49 main one and sky one car 122 and 123 Cl 106 also. Plot computer operator. Mechanical not digital still accurate

@paintnamer6403 4 жыл бұрын

@ 5:20 a young Johnny Carson!!

@s.sestric9929 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no.

@paladin0654 4 жыл бұрын

HA! Carson did serve in the USN.

@s.sestric9929 4 жыл бұрын

@@paladin0654 In World War II, not after. This film was made in 1954; by then Carson had already finished college and began his broadcasting career.

@alainarchambault2331 5 жыл бұрын

11 minutes and 48 seconds before they were ready to fire. Geesh. Wonder what would happen if while under enemy fire just one of those guys missed a step?

@marciabrecht5361 5 жыл бұрын

Alain...During pre cruise workups, everything is slow and deliberate...things speed up a little later in the show, during ORE and finally the actual cruise.

@lawrencey1443 5 жыл бұрын

A lot of the commands that they show here actually take place at the same time. So it appears to take a long time.

@dougfinlay7528 4 жыл бұрын

The impressive big Des Moines class heavy cruiser--the biggest, ultimate gun cruisers ever built, with new auto loading 8" guns. Too late for WWII, only three were built. of which one (Salem) survives today

@ElwoodPDowd-nz2si 4 жыл бұрын

When checks and balances have checks and balances.

@skydiverclassc2031 4 жыл бұрын

Got a kick out of the closed captioning after 14:45 Turret 1, all boys clear Bot 1 turret all boys clear Spot 133 all boars clear Control all floors clear where 85 expected control ball on Aalborg flare Naval gunfire is not easy.:)

@andybreglia9431 4 жыл бұрын

I heard nothing about the coriolis effect. My Dad was in Army Americal Division artillery on Guadalcanal, and told me about compensation for the rotation of the Earth in long range fire. It seems to me that on a moving platform such as a ship, location of ship, target, direction of fire, will affect where the shells will land as the Earth rotates beneath the flight of the projectiles. This can be demonstrated with a rifle at a thousand yards. Fire at a target due west, get your zero, and fire a group. Turn to a target due east, same hold and fire a group. The east group will center lower because the Earth is rotating away with respect to the flight of the flight of the bullets. In long range artillery where the projectile flight time can be well over a minute the effect can be substantial.

@rickt1154 2 жыл бұрын

It's probably calculated by the fire control computer according to the true target bearing and range.

@ElwoodPDowd-nz2si 4 жыл бұрын

9:02 Ryan Reynolds dad.

@smackdabular4315 4 жыл бұрын

1:31 hits you right there. don't it navy vets?

@josephastier7421 4 жыл бұрын

I never knew they actually *played a bugle* into the PA system.

@robscott8296 4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Astier they did but not as often

@garyhaber333 4 жыл бұрын

Our GQ alarm sounded like that in 86....

@1917Enfield 4 жыл бұрын

Still have my pipe and lanyard, 30 years later.

@viperch25 4 жыл бұрын

this is a repeat you all put up the same video in 2015. all you did was change the ep. number

@Darthbelal 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how they unload one of those guns without firing?

@BOORAGG 5 жыл бұрын

They don't. They fire the round. Any problem and the gun is secured.

@USSBB62 5 жыл бұрын

Yup ! first its a Miss-fire, if it goes off its a Hang-fire.Then its a 30 minute wait, after that you replace and retry with a new 45/70 blank ignition cartridge. It that doesn' t work. Though no confermation, you remove the cartrage and fill the chamber with fresh water to soak the powder bags into a safe condition. I can't confirm this though. But we always talked about it and no one ever denied it. @@BOORAGG

@ericzaiz8358 5 жыл бұрын

@@USSBB62 IT was and still is that way, the Army uses a similar method for artillery guns.

@paladin0654 4 жыл бұрын

@James Reilly Your right....'bout the only thing that's close is "cease loading".

@eddiehagler6127 2 жыл бұрын

No escorts and the enemy ship sank fast

@ramsoncole4605 5 жыл бұрын

Did it really take that long to get a shot off??

@USSBB62 5 жыл бұрын

2 per minute on the 16in./50's and 18 per minute on the 5in/38. Naval Gun Caliber gives you the barrel length. Inches X Caliber = Barrel Length. 16 X 50 = 800 inches or 66.67 FT.

@USSBB62 5 жыл бұрын

Oh, I forgot to mention that's per gun. And your looking at 9 guns @ 16" and 20 guns @ 5". In the Viet Nam era.

@ramsoncole4605 5 жыл бұрын

@@USSBB62 Ok cool...because it looked like it took like a full minute to get a shot off.

@USSBB62 5 жыл бұрын

In the Film they show an Eight inch Bag gun. In the more modern Iowa Class the 16 in bag guns are modernized with more mechanical loading equipment so it was much faster.

@rjkee5157 5 жыл бұрын

A lot of the commands that they show here actually take place at the same time. So it appears to take a long time.

@Lockbar 4 жыл бұрын

Cool to see, but the enemy already got 3 salvos fired off at you!!

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 жыл бұрын

The USN is more likely to fire those three salvos first than the Kriegsmarine or the IJN. The only other Navy that can do that as well as the USN is the Royal Navy and they are allies...

@kermittate9853 4 жыл бұрын

You have many interesting films in your collection, but is it possible to remove the time-code at the bottom of the screen? It's more annoying than useful.

@pnartg 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! In the amount of time it took them to prepare their guns the enemy would have blasted them out of the water long ago!

@spikespa5208 4 жыл бұрын

See Battle of Savo Island.

@robertcoyle1532 4 жыл бұрын

Seems like only luck would result in a hit in combat between two ships.

@thePronto 4 жыл бұрын

10 minutes to get the first rounds off...nowadays, they'd already be fish food.

@Internutt2023 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on the range of your guns, the range of the opponents guns, and who gets everything input into the fire control system first, and correctly. Some time is needed to study the targets course and speed to get this info, which is why they started tracking them out of their own firing range until the Captain finalized his course relative to the target vessel to get as many guns broadside as possible.