U.S.Open Classic: 1985 Women's Final: Mandlikova Defeats Navratilova (Edited)

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U.S.Open Classic: 1985 Women's Final: Hana Mandlikova Defeats Martina Navratilova.

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@Summon256
@Summon256 7 ай бұрын
Man...beating Evert and Navratilova back-to-back in the semis and then in the final in mid-80's!! You can't go tougher than that!…
@jm7804
@jm7804 Жыл бұрын
What I loved about this matchup was Hana was never afraid to challenge Martina at the net. She would rush the same time as Martina and it was decided by whomever hit the better volley. Hana won 2 of the 3 grand slam finals they played. She had great hands and wonderful groundstrokes.
@vinaytripathi157
@vinaytripathi157 11 ай бұрын
Great observation and comment
@th8257
@th8257 4 ай бұрын
Hana seems to have enjoyed playing serve and volley players. Perhaps the faster tempo suited her more streaky temperament. For a long time in the early days, Hana seemed to have many more problems with Chris Evert and hadn't really figured out how to play her. I suspect Chris's consistency could be a serious problem for Hana, making her stop and think rather than play the instinctive, free flowing tennis she preferred.
@ChungkingExpress1996
@ChungkingExpress1996 9 ай бұрын
Two great players, with such a pleasant game to watch. Hana M. was such a graceful player.
@gregmcfarnon1140
@gregmcfarnon1140 29 күн бұрын
Still the best women's tennis match I've ever seen. Both of them played beautifully from start to finish.
@kayanoreeves1949
@kayanoreeves1949 Жыл бұрын
That beautiful backhand volley on match point. One of my all-time favorite tennis moments.
@sliceserve234
@sliceserve234 Жыл бұрын
what a shot to win a match on!
@romania4712
@romania4712 9 ай бұрын
I loved how Bud Collins described it during Hana’s Hall of Fame induction speech, “a pirouetting move that Pavlova would be proud of.”
@roger1296
@roger1296 7 ай бұрын
Brings me to tears watching Hana win this! I was so happy for her.
@armeniandiaspora2914
@armeniandiaspora2914 6 ай бұрын
What a triumphant year for the Czechs.... Lendl's and Hana's first wins! Watched both of them live.
@mikeyates7931
@mikeyates7931 Жыл бұрын
The good old days : when players played with intelligence and understanding of the game - not just trading off bombing ground strokes like mindless automatons - Those were the days , my friends - we thought they'd never end ❤
@thomasgray5406
@thomasgray5406 7 ай бұрын
Now the game is dominated by massive rackets generating huge power and speed and even women's players are very tall; in this final you had one at 5'7" and one at 5'8", both were tremendous players. I remember Martina saying a few years ago that she could counter (relative) power with "junk" on the ball by mixing up spin, pace, flight but that this would never work in the modern game because the power and pace don't allow for much of this. You'll also never get the variety of styles that featured in the past.
@mikeyates7931
@mikeyates7931 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasgray5406 Yeah , what has been gained in power and speed has lead to a loss of finesse and style 😔
@DianaMoon11428
@DianaMoon11428 Ай бұрын
Stop exaggerating. The good old days had a few good players & a bunch of nonentities. They cruised until the semis.
@DianaMoon11428
@DianaMoon11428 Ай бұрын
@@thomasgray5406 Average height of the top five women today (excluding Pegula) is 5'10". The athleticism far outweighs the past. I love the greats like these ladies (and Evert, Goolagong, Court, King) but let's face it: the fitness level & athleticism of the current players has lifted the overall competition. Look at the names both finalists faced until the semis - nobodies. However, I do think that players today could be more varied in shotmaking. Look at Barty and Jabeur.
@mikeyates7931
@mikeyates7931 Ай бұрын
@@DianaMoon11428 NOBODY was EVER more in shape for the game than , Martina Navratilova ! ! ! She trained for tennis like she was going to war ! ! ! 🎾
@gaysportsfanatic
@gaysportsfanatic 9 ай бұрын
Hana beat Chris and Martina in the same tournament--- very hard to do.
@Summon256
@Summon256 7 ай бұрын
In mid-80's and in the semis and the final! Yes...gotta be one of the most deserving slam wins of that decade in women's tennis!
@stevebbuk9557
@stevebbuk9557 Ай бұрын
Yes, and the noisy crowd really came to see Chris..
@th8257
@th8257 Жыл бұрын
These two had some amazing matches.
@theoriginalthinker9199
@theoriginalthinker9199 8 ай бұрын
Two women with one handed backhands playing serve and volley tennis. Take a good look, because you'll probably never see it again. But back then it was common, and clearly much more beautiful to watch.
@stuartellner3172
@stuartellner3172 9 ай бұрын
Remember this well. Hana was absolutely brilliant. A great champion.
@stef1074
@stef1074 Жыл бұрын
To me Hana Mandlikova is the most talented of all women's tennis ever. She has always been a threat to Martina who feared her. Against Chrissie, who was steady and predictable, she knew what to expect but Hana was capable of executing all the shots, and the most difficult ones. She was unpredictable and so beautiful to watch when she was on...
@pelmfbpndd7065
@pelmfbpndd7065 Жыл бұрын
hm i'm just looking to see which tennis player is the most talented, at least of those who "so far (as they say) in the so-called world rankings, haven't seen that many vids about mandlikova, hm, .., but to the point "afraid to play against madlikova, well navratilova doesn't suit mandlikova so much while navratilova even comes a little closer to madlikova, so to speak
@lwh7301
@lwh7301 9 ай бұрын
She's not even in the top 100.
@rushrush1209
@rushrush1209 6 ай бұрын
Surprising that Evert Lloyd was the #1 seed in this tournament, since Martina won that year's Australian and Wimbledon, along with the previous year's US Open. Probably the best 2 women's serve and volleyers of all time in this match. Afterwards, Martina said "I didn't lose this match. Hana quite simply won this match.".
@russellfrancis6294
@russellfrancis6294 10 ай бұрын
This is great I look forward to more.
@shelleywarkentin9656
@shelleywarkentin9656 11 ай бұрын
This was a case of celebrating too early for Martina. I loved seeing her so frustrated losing the first 6 points in the tiebreaker.
@FLE22P
@FLE22P 11 ай бұрын
Love it….no parading around the court looking for adoration..just happy to win
@jamesc7019
@jamesc7019 9 ай бұрын
Hana at her best could defeat Martina & Chris but wasn’t consistent like them.
@gomezaddams4347
@gomezaddams4347 9 ай бұрын
Just beautiful classic tennis, played the way tennis was meant to be played, angles, chips, volley, constructing points, not just cracking topspin groundies.
@jehaustin
@jehaustin Жыл бұрын
I always thought Hana Mandlíková was a very streaky player. When she was on she totally took the net away from Martina Navratilova but Martina just ended up becoming steadier mentally.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 7 ай бұрын
Hana's FH was better than Steffi's when it was on. Just looooved her game. Female Mac in a way. 1:12:08 - great point and you see both players with mutual respect as they walk off for the changeover neither one wants to cut off the other it's awesome.
@alanchong7513
@alanchong7513 11 ай бұрын
Navratilova's serve lacking bite in this match.
@heinzconrads5243
@heinzconrads5243 2 ай бұрын
sorry to say so but I like this much better than today's womens tennis
@peachman5698
@peachman5698 Жыл бұрын
Hana eating cheesecake before US Open match vs Chrissie..."nuff said....But she did have an incredibly graceful game
@romania4712
@romania4712 9 ай бұрын
I believe you are thinking of 1982. But it was Evert that ate the cheesecake and got food poisoning before her 3R match with Kate Latham. She would recover and defeat Mandlikova in the finals, but no cheesecake for Hana. 😊
@peachman5698
@peachman5698 9 ай бұрын
Def remember Hana eating Cheesecake b4 a match with Chris....Chirs told the story@@romania4712
@gregmcfarnon1140
@gregmcfarnon1140 29 күн бұрын
No, I believe you're thinking of 1983 Wimbledon. Evert became ill after eating cheesecake and requested that her 3rd round match against Kathy Jordan be postponed until the next day. The Wimbledon committee refused and she lost the match, the only time she had ever lost a GS match before the semi-final.
@MirjanaLfan
@MirjanaLfan Жыл бұрын
WTF at the breaking away at 2/0 to discuss hot dog sales on site during a slam final.
@HunterBidenCocaineBag
@HunterBidenCocaineBag Жыл бұрын
Hana being Hana, I thought for sure she'd choke after losing her serve at 5-3 in the 3rd set.
@otanishinsuke
@otanishinsuke 9 ай бұрын
素晴らしい試合。どちらもあっぱれ。
@frankbrodie5168
@frankbrodie5168 3 ай бұрын
"They can both go over the ball.. And under the ball..." I reckon your average tennis fan would have understood a simple reference to topspin and backspin. It's just complicating things for the sake of it.
@lenwelch2195
@lenwelch2195 Жыл бұрын
Hana always wanted to beat Martina - both had same assets and obstacles Al though Martina conquered her fears . Hana did also but only on a few occasions in 85-86.
@thierrybonnet8979
@thierrybonnet8979 10 ай бұрын
Lesbienne raisonnable martina ?
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
Martina choked at the end here.
@chrismanteris9093
@chrismanteris9093 11 ай бұрын
I almost feel she wanted Hana to finally get a win.
@MrJeepsters
@MrJeepsters Жыл бұрын
US open 85 c'est l'année dès tchécoslovaques. Mandlikova a presque ressurgi de "nulle part ". Je ne savais pas que Graf existait déjà.
@guyinsf
@guyinsf 3 ай бұрын
Chris was seeded #1?
@kackem
@kackem Ай бұрын
One of those matches where the loser wins more games than the winner.
@graymcmic1419
@graymcmic1419 Ай бұрын
That's a dude.
@mattbradford8227
@mattbradford8227 10 ай бұрын
Remember the year that two lesbian Czechs playes in the finals. When Steffi and Chrissy lost in the semifinals, the ratings tanked. But none as bad as the 2004 finals when two Russians played each other in prime time. No Williams sisters not even a Davenport or Henin. Awful.
@romania4712
@romania4712 9 ай бұрын
This was the second highest rated women’s US Open final of all time with a 7.3 rating. The only one that beat it was 81 final between Austin and Navratilova which got a whopping 7.7. The highest rated Evert final was 1984 vs Navratilova at 7.1. The highest rated Graf final was 5.2 vs Seles in 1995. There was a brief resurgence with the Williams sisters. One of their finals got a 6.8 rating. The Clijsters/Wozniaki final got a dismal 1.1.
@dominicholden645
@dominicholden645 9 ай бұрын
Fortunately tennis is not organised for the benefit of the most ratings worthy players and what does the players sexuality has to do with it?
@stefan33uk
@stefan33uk 9 ай бұрын
2015 Pennetta Vinci was probably not what the Americans wanted to see
@pierdomenicosommati443
@pierdomenicosommati443 8 ай бұрын
Mandlikova has been married to an Aussie man, then, later in her life, years after her divorce and her retirement, she had two twins babies, after she got pregnant without any medical intervention. All naturally, let's say. She's a lesbian-but-not-so-much, after all. Anyway, she was really a wonderful player. Unbelievable talent and great natural atlete, very fast and easily moving, extremely fluid. In her good moments, she could effortlessly crush the ball with any shot. Unfortunately, she retired a little bit too early.
@gerardmackay8909
@gerardmackay8909 5 ай бұрын
No response I see to the contributor who pointed out this was the 2nd most watched final in history so you spout rubbish presented as fact. Seems obvious to us all that the 1980s American viewing public neither shared your distaste for Czechs, nor lesbians.
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