You start with maximalist demands and negotiate from there just like the employer starts with a low offer. That's how negotiations work.

There was never truly a negotiation. Uaw sold out the rank and file with this one

@@sclifton8709 yeah, ok...

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Unions destroyed this country.

Obviously you don’t know history. Slaves built this country! Immigrants harvested this country under slave wages. Minorities continue to undergird this nation NOT the UAW!

Unions had their purpose but now all they do is protect the lazy!

It will just see more jobs gone

You actually bought one of those? 😂

​@richardwilson8404 yea and you and I are both jealous. I'm just not a biiiotchhh

It'll be broke down by 2025

@@metalnbonez4539 definitely not jealous trust me 😂

They will be ok!!

Why exactly?

Retirees should’ve invested their money when they made $25+ in the early 2000s if their pension isn’t enough

the old timers had it good. making $40-$60k when the average household income was $20k or less. they should have saved money instead of blowing it all on boats and fun.

This is wild. Firstly I don't see how anyone knows what people did with their money. I've seen as well as read stories recently about pretty well to do people who saved money while working. Spent very frivolously but either had family or themselves get sick and have damn near everything wiped out from ridiculous medical bills. Cost of everything has gone way up. So that 100 bucks from yesterday isn't the same as 100 dollars today. Smh

And different benefits structure.

I am very happy with the outcome and not everyone was on strike at once. You got more in the contract because of the strategy

Weather more permitting for a longer strike in spring vs winter as well

Nah

😮😢😢 that is what you think. These contracts are just like a NFL contract. Here comes the layoffs and the top seniority keeps their job and screw you bottom feeders 😅😅😅😅😅

He did sell out people are losing their jobs most of us are nonunion

get into the union@@done3732

wait what?

It's a no from me unless this is addressed

When I worked for Federal-Mogul, they once forced me to work for several months in a row without a single day off to supply OEM engine parts to the big three.

@wvjeepguy8178 I've been in that place, Greenville Michigan. yeah that is brutal.

I don't think they would do that because it would cost too much money in overtime pay, so in my opinion- not likely to force you to work overtime.

Some are. Mercedes is union.

Becouse they care about quality and reliability unlike the big 3 union workers!

Because they don’t need too, otherwise they would

It's easy to find this out! Just google. Every auto worker in Germany is unionized even Tesla to hell w Elon Musk and all the companies are highly prophitable there so this horshit about the cars being too expensive if workers are paid a living wage is American capitalist garbage.

Sounds like a you problem because millions of other people can

They did get something, it's called a pension when they retired.

None of them should’ve gotten anything

Maybe not, Toyota announced their wage increase to keep the UAW out.

No you don't need a co-conspirator to help the companies get what they want. Look at uaw 958. For 35+ years talked the hourly workers into setting for crappie contracts, let the company take all perks, mandatory OT weekends,, 3 in a row, 4th off. Promised college workers sign on bonuses, didn't deliver. HUGE TURNOVER!! work got around how dirty they were. Keep your money instead of union dues that Don't help you pay your bills 💯

⁠@@krazykitty5750I will pay the dues, take the money. Toyota came to their workers with the new market adjustment, but it still falls short 70 cents an hour. Even with dues, with that .70 cents you would be $90-$100 more every month.

Your exactly correct

Did you see we now get a 5k sign bonus. 25% barely covers what we gave up back in 08. There's also language in the contract that states they can make "adjustments" within the contract at later dates. Two tier still there. They just got slick with the wording. The TFT has to have "consecutive" 6 months of service to be promoted to in progression. As if any of us who work in the plants haven't seen how they will wait till you have a few days left then lay you off. No pension. Nothing for the retirees. An extra 500 bucks a year which is taxed at the bonus rate of 42%. Fake strike etc. This contract is terrible

They don’t care

Yea u are right

I hope you hurry, they just came to their employees with close to $3/hr and that puts them on par with the new big three wages. So who you picking now?

@doomman700 Toyota cause, let's be honest; their cars are actually worth the price.

@@user-rb9ge4ny4v let’s be honest, you are just a pot stirrer. Your complaint was because wage was going to effect price , but Toyota will be within 75 cents of the big three on wage January 1st. So it’s not really the wage is it? It’s just the fact you don’t have it.

@doomman700 Funny you rat. If you used your comprehensive skills to understand basic words, you would have picked on the reasoning. It's not a secret that Toyotas can last way longer than any other brand, next to Honda, so it will be worth the increase. If you're buying a 33K, shitty Jeep, GMC, or Ford product vs. a 25K Toyota, you are making poor life choices. I can afford a car from the big three, but saving money and something reliable trumps stupidity and ignorance.

You’re screwed because you apparently didn’t get a higher education and you’re stuck working in a factory to begin with with no real skill set or qualifications. Don’t blame anyone for your shortcomings but yourself.

Facts

Your company is playing its workers

Don’t worry your company will outsource that job to India for $10K a year.

How much does your favorite ball player make with a high school diploma>

Mexicans will soon be building them for way less

No one makes that in the plants unless you're basically making top pay and working so much OT you might as well have a cot at the job. Where did that number even come from. The companies and News (paid by the companies) will have people think workers make so much for little work and it's our fault the prices of vehicles go up. Not at all. The companies use every excuse they can to raise the prices. During covid when they knew people had stimulus checks but the supply /inventory on everything was low, people were paying over sticker to get the vehicle they wanted. Companies saw that. Got greedy. Raised the prices. Now they're going to say they had to pay the workers so cost goes up again. They're greedy. Which is why the big 3 ceo's make 20 plus mil a year and the ceo's over at Honda Toyota etc make less than 10m.

Bye

@@user-sv2yc5fz9c that’s kind of you. Come with, I insist.

Try being self employed. Its worse.

@@robleenhouts4498 I am, disagree.

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3 years

Aaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaa!!!!

@@shawnsmith4651 our lowest level pay tier for operators here in WV through IUOE is over $28 an hour. Highest pay tier is over $45 an hour.

Yep not a good deal

maybe they should join a actual trade and learn an actual skill, if they lose their jobs the skill set they have is good for Amazon fulfillment MAYBE

We have the auto lease plan back. Everybody gone drive what they build now

I’ll never never buy another UAW vehicle The last one was ate up with recalls anyway.

You have options. You can go work 90% of the day in the weather for $55/hr.

@@trp2413 oh I have way more options than that chief. Cheers.

Those guy's deserve our money... It's kills ur body making cars & trucks even in the automated world we live in... 4 dollar raises since 2009 is crazy...

Ford will be bankrupt soon.

It's up to the membership to either vote yes or no he had to present this to show he's negotiated in good faith

You sound crazy. The last contract with a 6% raise over 4 years was a sell out, they're getting almost double that immediately

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Suppliers cannot afford to pay UAW wages. Suppliers will move plants to China and Mexico.

Pretty vague

I work for a company that supplies for big 3 our starting salary is 22.76 and cap is 27 I get shift premium 1.50 but this is nice

​@@devonhosler5011 You will never see this kind of money or benefits. Your company can't afford them and your union won't fight for them. Get used to it.

Sounds like you have a good paying job that a lot of Americans would love to have

Bring on that OT, I don't mind working for $50+ an hour

Lets go on critical status and work 7 days a week. I need profit sharing hours lmao.

Trump does not support unions or workers and was not great w job creation. He inherited a good economy from Obama! Biden (even though I am not a fan of any of these guys) has created more jobs than Trump. When Trump came into office there was already 145.6 M jobs after 30 months there were 150.8 M jobs. When Biden came into office the economy was shit w Covid and there were 143 M jobs and after 30 months there were 156.2 M jobs and still improving.

While he’s at it, maybe you guys can work from home lol clowns

Bill Ford seems too worried about saving face than taking care of all stakeholders. The UAW had no business being at the front of the line for more of the riches and they all know it. Are salaried workers, communities, supplier workers going to get 25% raises? No way!!

@@desmo8755 they may who knows. They should probably start unionizing and bargaining instead of hating on those that already have.

Remember they raised car prices 36% and only raised workes rates 6% since 2011. Where did that money go????

@@paulbuchanan8727 - car prices have been coming down and will continue to.

Suck it up, buttercup.

Huh

buy local

Buy Local, Build from the Community Ground up

If it wasn’t for those assembly plants half of those businesses wouldn’t nearly as successful. Thousands of workers put money back into their local economy.

I hope they send them all overseas

I have seen between 250 and 1k one time payment

Bs I am not either and I know more skilled trades like me that are saying HELL NO!

@@guitarjeff5775 I'm an Electrician myself. I have to admit that I may be missing something here. this is my first UAW contract, but I have seen 3 or 4 other union contracts before. I was on the negotiations board for one of them. have you ever seen a contract better than this? is 50 an hour not good in 4.5 years? I really don't know. check back with me in 4.5 years haha.

paulk- def not Russian or a bot, but I'll definitely be voting NO...12 yrs Chicago Local 551... had to wait 8 full years to get to top pay, now with an extra 4 yrs worked they're offering me a $3 raise.....No Thanks....also a $5,000 sign on bonus is nothing, I lost out on $7000 in missed wages, dipped in my savings for $3500, and missed 4 weeks of child support...so nah this strike and contract ta are 💩

Nope and it’s a no vote for me

You're acting as if our current Healthcare is bad lol

@pringusdingus ask why every conversation is about money. Because money will sell a shity contract. So enjoy your shity Healthcare. I've had to give up my HAP Because of a shity contract.

We have top health care it’s a yes for me

Maybee you want to go back to the dirty bought and payed for backroom deals where you would have been stuck at 9% and shitty highlights. This

@bradleymartin2264 were is my 60g like the last contracts. 5g is what you will pay in dues for this contract.

30 years, you are either working with $3.53 more an hour coming in, or you sign the papers with 5 multiplier more($150/month at 30) so not sure where you get you got nothing. You got something

4:46 the 10 dollars plus per hour raise you will have made by the end of the contract is not good with you? You are getting a raise on your pension. At least you got to have had a good life for the last 30yrs. I encourage you to retire. There is gonna be a long list of people ready to have your job and love it, and be grateful for it.

I want a pension. $11,000 a year into my 401k while the pension employees will receive $40,000 a year in pensions and also whatever they invested themselves. In 30 years ford will give is barely $280,000 but just 10 years of a pension equals $400,000. For me to have a retirement that comes close to them I will have to save at least 50% of my weekly pay. So if I want to retire decently I will be bringing home half of what they legacy workers will bring home. You gave the pensions a raise and then gave us 3.5% more on top of the already garbage 6.4% we get. How in the world is that a huge improvement or retirement security in the least. Also I will have to pay for Healthcare out of that money because we don't getvthat also. We aren't 2nd tier, we are worse, we are 3rd tier. Please everyone both no. We should have fought for equal retirement first and then the raise ls and cola and everything else second and if we got less so be it, but we would at least get less together. Once again 2nd tier in progression is the scapegoat and the 2nd class workers they think we are.

It’s rare for many Americans to get a pension and your crying about it ?? All I’m gonna get is SS BE GREATFUL rather Pray your job is secure

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That $11,000/year will be invested over your career the going thought process 7% gains a year. If you don’t abuse your 401k by taking loans out or withdrawals you will have $1.1m after 30 years. As much as I’d like all labor to have a pension to count on $11k 401k contribution a year isn’t anything to laud at.

Pensions are gone and will never return. Not just for autoworkers, but for nearly all Americans. Unless you have a government job- you will never see a pension again.

pensions are gone, just get more money now and invest it yourself. you can't rely on Ford being around in 10 years anyways.

That's what happens when you sell out the future like they did in 09.

why?

@@MUCKFOOT⁶⁶⁶because we deserve more money in wages

@@JahisLovePsalms yep. Extract all you can until big 3 goes bankrupt. Good move.

@@steve-on3234 heard

@@steve-on3234they won’t go bankrupt 💀💀💀

You can't be serious... There's a reason why the word, "forced", is so often used in these briefings. Ford wasn't, "working with them", at all. They, just like the other three companies in this strike, (GM, Stellantis, and Mack) only came to the table on these negotiations, because their hand was forced. They conceded to these demands. They didn't give in to them. And, unless you're new, you should know that that's pretty much SOP for the big companies.

Are you serious😂

The workers at Ford gave concessions to keep Ford from going bankrupt. This is payback for the concessions. We never should have had to go on strike.

@@kjbldp yes I am.

@@Ted_Stryker did ford just not agree to a new contract? That is working with them.