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File a lawsuit, uber CANNOT penalize you for not accepting rides since you are an independent contractor.

There have been times where I won't get a ride request for an hour or so, sometimes with a surge for my next ride or close to getting a bonus. I go offline and back online and suddenly I'm getting non-stop requests. I keep an eye on the passenger app and notice I'm not showing up on the map until I toggle online. They are definitely playing games.

I drive in Phoenix, it's absurd to offer trips that pay minimum wage BEFORE I consider the cost of providing my car and then punish me for not accepting it.

This is my last weekend with uber and rideshare. I am done.

The way to fix this problem. Drivers work to get commercial insurance on your vehicles. Set up your own business. Use Uber/Lyft the way they are using you(Aka build your clientele through them) keep 100% of your profits. Charge the rates you want. Cut the middle man out.

If people actually had balls and just completely shut down their Uber apps for just one whole day things would change but that’ll never happen because people are sheep

As a Lyft and Uber Eats customer and an Uber One member, I really do appreciate you for sharing what is really going on.

Hey there's Jay👍🏾 I appreciate Sergio because he always saying it just the way it is . Chris is great too👍🏾All of you guys are greatly appreciated. Thanks for all you say and do💯

Love the mindset fellas! I've BEEN saying (and doing): "Don't ask a boss for any favors/salary, show a motherfkr your value and work for his competitors the moment he doesn't value you." ❤ NEVER beg the master for crumbs lol.

These are breeding grounds for a new rideshare company, solve all the problems that uber is causing and you got an army of people ready to work for you. May need to sacrifice profits a bit, but some creativity could launch a new company really high really fast.

It had happened to me in the Miami area. I just go offline and drive for Lift for a while

I agree . when youre coming close to your challenge completion the trips do slow down

Oh no. They did put me in. “ time out”. I just waited. And used Lyft. I ain’t accepting trash trips

Many drivers out there don’t even look they make money or not and they accept the ride. I drive when i am free. Seeing those fare from uber/lyft most of them are bs pay. There is no way drivers can be profit if each mile is less than $1 per mile.

Yes they throttle you !! It happens to me every time I’m about to finish my trip incentives!!

Uber thinks we should be making 28-40 cents per mile like truckers.

Has anyone noticed when the ride info comes up the along with the ride fare and the distance to travel for pickup that the actual milage to the pickup is acually longer?

2nd week in a row… 4 rides away from quest… after 5th ride, the 4th ride offer was made 1 hour 20 minutes later. Hard reset on app and phone multiple times. I was definitely being overlooked intentionally.

If uber wants drivers to accept 100% of the trip offers the only way for Uber to make this happen is raise the drivers pay/rates

In Portland Oregon we still have 0.70 cents per mile and 0.24 cents per minute rate. the thing is they don’t have much drivers on the road. Most Portland driver go to Washington to get more pay it just driving 5 miles to get paid more on Seattle rate.

When I drove, Lyft would give bonuses (specific number of rides during a specific time frame). Time was almost up. Neighbor needed short ride and was standing outside of my car. He got a driver fifteen minutes away. Proof they lie and cheat to avoid bonus promotion.

I was just a few points away from platinum until I realized what am I getting out of this except a digital medal. My acceptance rate has no been declining, and I suddenly realized that not only am I not getting upfront pricing, but they are not now showing me total trip distance and time, only showing me distance and time to my pickup. Also, they have something called quest challenges, which make it hard to meet as you get closer to completion due to them sending you out of the area. Total B.S.

I'm currently at a 27% acceptance rate and 11% cancellation. The cancellation rate is so high because of spamming while trying to log off. I take quite a few radar trips. I'm making 30$ per hour most days, some days can push 40+.

I called Uber about this “Trip Radar” garbage. I asked them to remove it from my account, they said they couldn’t, i told them if you put it on you can take it off, they said they couldn’t. I haven’t turned this trash back on since.

Drivers all over the country are experiencing hours of wait time between trip requests on Friday and Saturday nights. The past two nights the banner at the bottom only says "you're online". No "Finding rides" no "You're in a busy area".....just stuck on "you're online". I uninstalled and reinstalled the app tonight hoping to clear that up. Nope. It only got worse after that. I cleared data and cache. Restart my phone. Then everything seemed fine. Got a trip request and when it went to navigation it booted me offline. WTF?! Tried to go back online and I hear the prompt to pickup my passenger then boom boots me offline again. I couldn't even cancel the trips that were glitching. First one canceled and I got a cancellation fee. I couldn't even refund the riders cancellation fee. Went to "help" (hahahah very funny support...useless) and they gave me the "logout", "force stop", restart your phone, and log back in. I double checked everything as far as permissions go and everything was good on my phone. I repeated the steps and cleared the cache and restarted the app. When I restarted the app in went into the "day mode" display. I was afraid to accept another trip but, when I did it went to navigation to the pickup. Uber IT dept and infrastructure is hot trash. Totally out of control with all these "measures" to fight our independence as private contractors.

I'm having major troubles with both apps . For whatever reasons I was deactivated from Uber back in march . I have tried to contact background check a million times . No response. Now Lyft is only offering these almost unattainable ride quests. With no or close to none ride streaks with minimal surge prices . I haven't met my goal now in several weeks. This weekend it was 90 rides for top tier bonus . I was 7 rides away from my bonus at 12:30 am and they timed me out. Said I had been online for to long and I needed to break for a few hours . Basically cock blocked me from bonus . I drove way longer hours the week of superbowl and this was only the second time in almost 2 years . I've driven from morning til 5 am the next morning before and they have let me go on driving . Seems very fishy and I believe they are scamming hard . Even yesterday I drove from morning til almost 2 am 😡

I’m in Florida and Uber has signed me out for refusing 3 in a row.

They tried something similar with me here in Orlando Fl. I called Uber and when they told me that I had to accept more rides or my account will be put on hold my reply was, you freeze my account and I’ll put my magnetic signs that say in big bold letters “ 20% bellow ride share and make double what you pay me and every trip I do will be one passenger they will not log in to your platform. It happened about 5 times and no more.

I put Uber in time out😅

This is wrong. I'm in NC and recently they have been giving me garbage. Uber wants to hold us accountable on acceptance rate and force drivers to take garbage trips at the same time the pay is crap, they don't pay for our car, gas,mileage and it looks like we no longer are compensated for pick up. I've been with Uber since 2016 and each year I make less. One would think Uber would have some bonus for long term drivers. Nothing ..just a daily slap in the face. I recall when drivers could work a few hours and be ok. Now to make that same amount of money we are being forced to work 12 hours a day to make part time wages. This is exploitation. Now they have the audacity to complain about acceptance rates when all they're sending us is sh. trips. Riders are burn out on tipping. Uber getting to be not worth it. The bonuses are crap, there no demand pay. It's a shame the Uber is no longer the hustle it used to be. It's more like a scam than a hustle.

They already do that in Atlanta. I noticed when Maxymo kicks out a certain amount of trips it just shows the trip radar

I personally like trip radar. To me, it's like being at a buffet and I can choose where my ride originates and where my ride will end up. I can see a panel of rides to strategize from. I just don't like how they send a TON of them at the same time, as I should only get like maybe 3 or 4 in the radar to pick from - not 8! Now, the issue I have with trip radar is where they add rides from WAYYYY out (10 miles away) that shouldn't be considered as being on my radar. Anything in my area should be included in my radar, and that's it. Then let me see which rides are gonna take me in which direction - all from the trip radar buffet.

Last night 5/20 Saturday in LA had no surge bonus more than $2.25 all night long. Less than $4 surge bonus in LA is not worth it. Washing dishes at restaurant is better earning.

Dd does the dame thing. Disgusting. These companies need to be regulated and then FINED heavily for this kind of overeaching, exploitive behavior!

Uber is going to see a rise in conflicts between drivers and passengers if they keep forcing drivers to pick up any trip,everyone just needs to go on a strike .

I get put in timeout at least 10 times a night all i do is go offline foot 1minute then back online and start recieving regular rides i dont do trip radar period i cherry pick always

I drive this same area(mesa) and seen this same message. Eats isn't any better gas is also $5 a gallon. very rarely do I see anything over $5 on eats. Most are going well over 19 miles.

Something will give and Uber will get punished for this move guys. You are right. Watch Lyft gain more riders and drivers.

I'm not taking rides, that make zero financial sense. Jay says he likes Lyft auto accept. Why? Lyft sends garbage trips too. I always turn on last ride, so I can evaluate a ride, before accepting.

Especially if Uber steal up to $35,000 from full time drivers. They slow you down sometimes 2 hours in main traffic time.

I miss just turning on the app and taking what it sends me. I don't know that this will ever be possible again. Sergio always speaking truth. Nobody's winning this war.

Or I could drive for another company. If Uber suspends me, what's the loss? I'm not making money anyway.

These companies are unreal. Shame on you dk and uber. Price the rides right.

14k Ubereats deliveries here. These platforms have one philosophy, make you go as far as possible, for as long as possible, for as cheap as possible. It started clandestinely when u didn’t accept two rides in a row it would automatically sign you off, now this? Always, always, always have more gig apps available that you can go to for alternative income. Do not EVER depend on one or two. They have sneaky tactics to get you to take non profitable rides and it’s covert bullying where you loose they win.

Also in regards to the new quests options. Passengers will start to complain. When we would get our quests via number of rides, us drivers may or may not take the smaller rides just to get the count down. But now with drivers having to get a bonus based off the amount of $$ we make, drivers are going to only want to accept the bigger paying rides to get the bonus faster and/or to get a bigger bonus. So these passengers with the small trips are going to wait longer or the fare will go up. SO STUPID

They are treating us like they are doing a punzy scheme take a lot. from the customer and give us nothing.

I drive in Atlanta, and here Uber pays as little as 50 cents a mile, and 90% of the time they take 55% or more. Clearly, they are ripping off drivers.

Uber wants you to drive for less than a dollar a mile , and now Uber in a strong position because they destroyed the taxi business and know destroyed Lyft too, and they have a lot of drivers, but the only way Uber will stop intimidating the drivers is if the drivers stop accepting the garbage trips, and Uber needs to understand that the gig work expanded in the last few years and Uber and Lyft are not the only show in town.

Lyft does I've had to cancel a ride keep in mind I'm taking care of a sister who has cancer, so doing so stuff comes up. When I go online again which is a scheduled ride then after a few minutes the notifications come in ride cancelled. Happens a lot...

At the begging- Yes throttling has always happened or drop and go were they send you far away then drop you .

I only use Uber when they high surge. Putting me in time out is another reason not to use them.

they changed my quest to an earnings quest vs ride quest. I am going to send you screen shots Sergio

The national average cost per is about 60 cents. I don't take any Rides or deliveries less than $3. Unless I'm on DD. It's never more than $2 a mile unless you get a good tip. Boston.

I get a similar effect on UE, if I decline a couple in a row, it makes me wait (sometimes hours) until it gives me another one. It's been happening for a couple months in my area, happened two days ago... so I logged off, signed out, and took a couple days off. That's what they'll get from me... no driving at all for a couple/few days each time after they do this. If they insist I take bad offers to be in the game, I'll just get in a better game elsewhere. And their 01%/13%/100% driver will not be "getting it done right"... they can have some retiree w/o a hot bag, and poor navigation skills do the "job". I provide exemplary service, and there are no industries where it is cheap to get the best service, I expect to be compensated for the extra effort... not multi-apping, disabling new requests so current customer gets hot food, and I tape a life-saver and andees thin mint for each diner on each meal. From about 4k deliveries I've found a base+$1or$2 tip delivery RARELY gets bumped up afterwards... but base+$5 deliveries OFTEN increase the tip for exemplary service. There is something fundamentally wrong with Uber expecting "top tier" drivers to drive for "bottom rung" pricing. I'm not going to do it Uber, find a better way.

What you do is you log off after two declines and then put back on. I saw somebody in Boston do this. He end of the client like 10 till he got the one that he wanted.

Love how the surge is everywhere around the driver, but not where the driver actually is located. Happens to me every day

I am sick of these low prices why did Uber drop their prices for 6 miles away to pick somebody for $10 are you freaking kidding me charging what a cab to charge them, that's why people are declining even I am declining more rides and ever had because I'm not doing it I'm not going to drive someone in the inner city or in the rural areas 10 miles away and it takes me almost 30 minutes I want to be compensated for my time a dollar fifty per minute is how she repaid we should not be paid towards mileage it should be time because if I'm in the city and I'm taking some 5 minutes away it can be a 15 minutes ride because of all the lights same thing in the rule areas we should be paid for our time Napa mileage give us 25 cents for mileage but time

Stop driving for Uber for one week. Switch to Lyft. You guys have a platform. Pick a week, any week and get the drivers in your area and all areas for that matter, boycott Uber...go to Lyft. It is really that simple. I'm boycotting Uber ... going to Lyft.

They have been doing this for a quite a while both uber and uber eats, (after declining 3 trips/orders in a row), they just haven't been telling us about it. Last night I was super busy from 5-8 and needed one more order to complete my quest. (5-9); Sat from 8-9pm near busy restaurants and didn't receive an order for one whole hour. As soon as 9:01pm clicked suddenly started receiving orders again, 3 requests within 5 minutes.

Lol in Australia we don't see price till we start trip. But we have scheduled trips that we can see the price

It is a war. It's a war of attrition. All Uber has to do is wait out the drivers. They've probably had their actuaries run the numbers, and they've determined that they'd do better if 20% of drivers quit but it was mostly or all cherry pickers.

Where's can I find "Gary's" app that Chris mentioned to calculate fares on the fly?

I drive in Milwaukee wisconsin still no upfront pricing

We got it worst here in NJ because we don’t see the price of each ride . I wonder if they ever update app here to see it 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

If Uber makes me mad, Lyft gets my time. If both Uber and Lyft make me mad, I have three other ride share gig companies I use regularly. I always have options.

What other apps make you take a selfie why your working beside Uber Eats??? Does Uber drive, dour dash, Lyft, Grubhub?? Please someone answer me…thank you.

Accept every trip. Send a message to pax that you'd like to take the trip, but you aren't being paid fairly. Then cancel. That ties up the system and will eventually make the fare higher if enough of us do it.

I have given three different riders a low score for link a wait time at pick up. Each time I have, I have been disciplined by Uber riders by giving myself a 1star rating . Now I have been accused of being under the influence. I haven’t drank in 20 years now my account is on hold while waiting for them to review I believe their algorithm is disciplining me for having a 49% acceptance rating

You are right Sergio they do that with drivers so they can’t complete the quest too the extent of giving fake trips towards the end of completing the quest. Quest is our own money taken from each trip and tips during the week it’s not an add on. So instead of giving say the driver 10 dollars they will give them 7 and store the 3 as tips or quest money. So I stopped taking quests completely. They want us to be on the road for 12 hours and do more trips. Bottom line earning whether it be surge, bonus, streak or quest the money is the same by the hour they set for us.

Ubers CEO made 23 million last year at a 22 percent increase in earnings from the previous year, these people at the top are getting paid way to much and they are trying to gouge every last penny out of its bottom employees to increase their earnings at the top!

Signed out and couldn't log in before the quest of $300. Had 9 rides left. Got screen recording to prove it. And no I had only driven 5/6 hours.

Im in Arizona and thats been happening to me all the time. Ill screen record it

The quest bonus is a joke in this market, Atlanta. Used to be $200-$350 for 60 trips. Now $30-$50 and games from Uber with long crap trips, or no/few trips.

Arizona need the help with fare, it’s too low driver’s not making enough, pay us the right fare

They don’t give me any trip radar in la the trips go to fast. People are accepting anything here so I forward trips then they cut me off and I let it go and then shut off the app switch to Lyft. This one I had a lady request the same ride on Lyft and uber. They gave me the same ride with same price down to the penny

thats why i like the lyft scheduled ride, lets you cherry pick rides that way, even though theres hundreds of cheap rides least you can pick which ones to take ahead of time. Helps to schedule your day some.

In the Tampa Bay area Uber took away the Surge for your next trip and we can no longer see Surge amounts.

I'm been get that notice for the longest in central Florida Orlando market

It's been doing this to me for about 2 weeks. Uber gave us decent quests this weekend, then all the drivers flooded the market. We didn't get hardly any surges not even at the bar close. You can uninstall it and reinstall and you can bypass it.

This will most likely get burried, or someone has talked about this. A rental car driver, the companies are in on it (in regards to cooking books, and upfront fares acknowledgements 100% of the time). Reason I say this.... uber goes by standard rates in the DFW (DALLAS/FT WORTH). You can get a toll tag, register it, they take the fees out regardless, and still charge you anyways. The nightmare about this is two fold. Not only are the fees through these companies exhuberantly high -- they are impossible to get a decently timed response for reimbursement. There in lies more time I have to wait, while money is bleeding out of an account, only to have it happen. Over, and over, and over again..... there needs to be a 49.99 surcharge fee for any company that does not do their due diligence in regards to contacting these departments and banks for their holding times on funds, these seemingly random .01 cent charges etc. Nobody is being held accountable (the companies playing blame game.... now you're back on hold with you bank just to verify info with -- ohp too late the other establishment has closed after hours "thank you for calling, good bye") and it's costing us thousands a year. Bullshit says someone.... why thousands?!?!? Where do you get such a figure.... Time. You're costing us time to do your job which is why we put money into your companies, into the services you provide. You sit on your ass and answer phones. You do not hold lives in the balance with your job, and when your job does not pay you and we all start to feel replacable (which is happening regardless, in 10-15 years there will be no more drivers, only body gaurds). This is the problem, we're still squabiling over dollars per mile, when we should be talking about the safety reports directly caused by their pushing constant rides or else, which in turn are causing mutliple deaths on and off the clock (do not get me started on insurance claims and how nobody wants to take responsibility for it and are extemely unhelpful with rental companies even IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN COMMERCIAL INSURANCE ON TOP OF UBER/LYFT, ANNNNNDDDDD IT'S THROUGH THE FUCKING RENETALS WAIVER! WAKE UP PEOPLE... They're just milking is for every penny until the electronic dollar takes hold. At that point, it'll be every man and woman for themselves (which is sad, especially when the fast majority just want a 'fair shake' and a seat at the table. It's all run by greed, and thieves, enjoy the rest of your regular programing.

This is how untrainable I am. I drive a Tesla now. And I still in my head. Account for gas. 🤭. Not giving Uber the benefit of me driving an ev with lower costs. 😂

This is not happening to me yet here in Boston, but I wouldn't really care. I probably get about 20-30% of my rides off of TR. The Boston market is rather small and every driver has a different idea of a good trip, so I frequently see very profitably trips on TR

I quit = NOT BEECOMING A W2 FOR RIDESHARE EVER!!! CHEAPSKATES & THIEVES STEALING FROM DRIVERS !!!

Jay is a lame. He wishes Uber had auto accept like Lyft 😂 don’t have him back on

The key is the market your in unfortunately. Miami /Ft. Lauderdale / Palm Beach are NON STOP BACK TO BACK TRIPS

Do you guys know what PRIORITY PICK UP is? I went to LA the other day and i saw a ride pop up that said something like priority pick up and it had +$3 sounds something good for drivers

I agree with the panel. I love driving and the passengers . However the fees are so low. My rating 4.98 , exceptance rate 85%, cancellation 2%. They don’t care it like a robot running the business. I will now refuse all trips under $5. I no longer need to be faithful for them to keep using me. I found that they don’t tell the true drop off location, it’s always 1-2 miles further.

I've been throttled. In the final 4 hours of the quest, I didn't get 1 request and was 19/20 completed on quest

Sign off and give your service to Lyft, don't let these companies get away with abuse.

I am 1 of those drivers..okay time out.. I'll go home or do other things n that timeout reduce 100 bucks from the previous wk pay out n yes $5 for 30min drive...nope not doing it lol

My time costing $$$, if it doesn’t pay $$$ . I’ll been give my time for who pays me $$$

I love trip radar its so easy to trick it and still pick what u want all u need to do is find how long the mile take 😂😂😂

Especially Dara always lies. He always work on his 24 Million raise.

They totally stop you from not only from getting quests and boosts !

Now you see why I have 100% acceptance rate 1.83 a mile

Why don't we start a GoFundMe that will offer a bounty to an insider at Uber or Lyft to tell us what is really going on in regards to throttling and all things that are negatively affecting drivers.

I think if people need to wait longer than normal and finally get someone people tend to rate the drivers lower than what you should be getting normally should be 5 stars if nothing happens since having to wait they will rate 3 or lower stars

This is the oldest game in town that you all have agreed to... FedEx ground try this 20 years ago... independent contractors. Did it for 14 years and got into their class action lawsuit when they finally stopped and were forced to change the business model of logistics transportation... The main sticking point that they kept losing to was the simple fact that independent contractors could not control the pay they would receive they are not indirect contact with customers... Therefore independent contractor model could not be completely satisfied according to transportation regulations and IRS independent contractor models... Look it up it is in the books under a FedEx versus Alexander... The lawyers that finally settled all went to work for Uber 10 years ago... Look it up FedEx versus Alexander

What variables are used to figure out my cost per mile??? I just started ubering 5 months ago